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On April 30 2021 00:37 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2021 00:13 tigera6 wrote:On April 29 2021 23:34 Xain0n wrote:
Also Maru definitely didn't "remain dominant", he seems to be enjoying a resurgence this year; he never ceased to be a top player but he was very far from his apex. Last year Maru won a ST, KoB, get to the Final of GSL code S, Asus RoG and top 4 in TSL 6. Other than TY and Rogue, I dont see any Korean had a more successful year than him. And that was him having a bad shoulder throughout the year. Meawhile, Serral, who has not won a mega big tournament since winning the Blizzcon in 2018, also fell off from his throne but nobody really feel he was out of it. I would love to see a Grand Finals match up with between these 2 in some global events this year, after dropping all the new competitors, and light up that hype among the fans. And you would call that "dominance"? I'm bored of listing Serral's accomplishements in 2019 but there were plenty of reasons for considering him overall the best in the world, or at least the player who had the highest chance of winning any tournament he would have entered. Serral was not dominant in 2020 despite still being at the very top, I disagree on the fact nobody recognized that.
2020 was not a "dominant" year by anyone, and there were several players who could get the title best player of the year at the IEM. But it was definitely NOT Serral "at the very top", no matter how you want to spin it yourself. Did he win the most title? Wont the most tournament? The answer is No and No. While its simply being a hater to say Serral washed up, he was NOT even close to what he did in 2018, or even 2019.
I would give you 2019 Serral as the best player because of the overall "body of work", but his achievement was starting to fell down a small bit, did not win WESG, IEM and Blizzcon in 2019. Yet you acting like he was still as dominant in 2019 and refuse to see the downward trend is puzzling to me.
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France12889 Posts
On April 30 2021 00:37 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2021 00:13 tigera6 wrote:On April 29 2021 23:34 Xain0n wrote:
Also Maru definitely didn't "remain dominant", he seems to be enjoying a resurgence this year; he never ceased to be a top player but he was very far from his apex. Last year Maru won a ST, KoB, get to the Final of GSL code S, Asus RoG and top 4 in TSL 6. Other than TY and Rogue, I dont see any Korean had a more successful year than him. And that was him having a bad shoulder throughout the year. Meawhile, Serral, who has not won a mega big tournament since winning the Blizzcon in 2018, also fell off from his throne but nobody really feel he was out of it. I would love to see a Grand Finals match up with between these 2 in some global events this year, after dropping all the new competitors, and light up that hype among the fans. And you would call that "dominance"? I'm bored of listing Serral's accomplishements in 2019 but there were plenty of reasons for considering him overall the best in the world, or at least the player who had the highest chance of winning any tournament he would have entered. Serral was not dominant in 2020 despite still being at the very top, I disagree on the fact nobody recognized that.
Among the koreans players, Rogue won 200k+$ in 2020 with the big IEM win, TY dominated Code S in KR tournaments and won 85k$, while Maru was a close 3rd with 80k$ from the aforementioned tournaments and GSL results. It's obviously not 2018 level domination, but still a dominant year compared to other koreans. Zest also made nice bucks with his IEM 2nd place, and won 101k$ in 2020.
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The Youtube time remaining never lies.
Trap is up 3-0 and there's an hour+ remaining
"He's gonna get reverse swept, isn't he?"
Trap gets reverse swept
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On April 30 2021 00:46 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2021 00:37 Xain0n wrote:On April 30 2021 00:13 tigera6 wrote:On April 29 2021 23:34 Xain0n wrote:
Also Maru definitely didn't "remain dominant", he seems to be enjoying a resurgence this year; he never ceased to be a top player but he was very far from his apex. Last year Maru won a ST, KoB, get to the Final of GSL code S, Asus RoG and top 4 in TSL 6. Other than TY and Rogue, I dont see any Korean had a more successful year than him. And that was him having a bad shoulder throughout the year. Meawhile, Serral, who has not won a mega big tournament since winning the Blizzcon in 2018, also fell off from his throne but nobody really feel he was out of it. I would love to see a Grand Finals match up with between these 2 in some global events this year, after dropping all the new competitors, and light up that hype among the fans. And you would call that "dominance"? I'm bored of listing Serral's accomplishements in 2019 but there were plenty of reasons for considering him overall the best in the world, or at least the player who had the highest chance of winning any tournament he would have entered. Serral was not dominant in 2020 despite still being at the very top, I disagree on the fact nobody recognized that. 2020 was not a "dominant" year by anyone, and there were several players who could get the title best player of the year at the IEM. But it was definitely NOT Serral "at the very top", no matter how you want to spin it yourself. Did he win the most title? Wont the most tournament? The answer is No and No. While its simply being a hater to say Serral washed up, he was NOT even close to what he did in 2018, or even 2019. I would give you 2019 Serral as the best player because of the overall "body of work", but his achievement was starting to fell down a small bit, did not win WESG, IEM and Blizzcon in 2019. Yet you acting like he was still as dominant in 2019 and refuse to see the downward trend is puzzling to me.
It's pretty clear, and I have said that many times, that Serral in 2018(post ascension) was an untouchable god, that he became "just" the best in the world in 2019(exactly as you are saying) and he downgraded to "just" one of the strongest players around in 2020(which he still is in 2021 with the difference that he hasn't won anything this year).
I perfectly agree, nobody was dominant in 2020 and when I say "at the very top" I mean "one of the players who could have been the best if there really was one".
Serral's downward trend seems to be real but it is has been so slow and it started from such an unbelievable apex that he still always is to be considered a championship contender; there isn't any apparent reason for which he should go further and stop being competitive, I'd expect to see him win other titles before he decides to retire.
You guys must really love when I write about Serral, it seems I'm being being dragged into discussions about his accomplishments or current level regardless of the original topic.
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On April 30 2021 01:07 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2021 00:46 tigera6 wrote:On April 30 2021 00:37 Xain0n wrote:On April 30 2021 00:13 tigera6 wrote:On April 29 2021 23:34 Xain0n wrote:
Also Maru definitely didn't "remain dominant", he seems to be enjoying a resurgence this year; he never ceased to be a top player but he was very far from his apex. Last year Maru won a ST, KoB, get to the Final of GSL code S, Asus RoG and top 4 in TSL 6. Other than TY and Rogue, I dont see any Korean had a more successful year than him. And that was him having a bad shoulder throughout the year. Meawhile, Serral, who has not won a mega big tournament since winning the Blizzcon in 2018, also fell off from his throne but nobody really feel he was out of it. I would love to see a Grand Finals match up with between these 2 in some global events this year, after dropping all the new competitors, and light up that hype among the fans. And you would call that "dominance"? I'm bored of listing Serral's accomplishements in 2019 but there were plenty of reasons for considering him overall the best in the world, or at least the player who had the highest chance of winning any tournament he would have entered. Serral was not dominant in 2020 despite still being at the very top, I disagree on the fact nobody recognized that. 2020 was not a "dominant" year by anyone, and there were several players who could get the title best player of the year at the IEM. But it was definitely NOT Serral "at the very top", no matter how you want to spin it yourself. Did he win the most title? Wont the most tournament? The answer is No and No. While its simply being a hater to say Serral washed up, he was NOT even close to what he did in 2018, or even 2019. I would give you 2019 Serral as the best player because of the overall "body of work", but his achievement was starting to fell down a small bit, did not win WESG, IEM and Blizzcon in 2019. Yet you acting like he was still as dominant in 2019 and refuse to see the downward trend is puzzling to me. It's pretty clear, and I have said that many times, that Serral in 2018(post ascension) was an untouchable god, that he became "just" the best in the world in 2019(exactly as you are saying) and he downgraded to "just" one of the strongest players around in 2020(which he still is in 2021 with the difference that he hasn't won anything this year). I perfectly agree, nobody was dominant in 2020 and when I say "at the very top" I mean "one of the players who could have been the best if there really was one". Serral's downward trend seems to be real but it is has been so slow and it started from such an unbelievable apex that he still always is to be considered a championship contender; there isn't any apparent reason for which he should go further and stop being competitive, I'd expect to see him win other titles before he decides to retire. You guys must really love when I write about Serral, it seems I'm being being dragged into discussions about his accomplishments or current level regardless of the original topic.
To be honest, we are very much on the same page after everything is cleared up. Its always good to discuss about stuff that we are passionate about, which is SC2 esport scence. As long as its not becoming toxic and offensive, I actually enjoy it.
And like I said, I would love to see a Maru vs Serral in a Grand Final of a global tournament this year, the hype on it would be unbelievable.
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On April 30 2021 01:33 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2021 01:07 Xain0n wrote:On April 30 2021 00:46 tigera6 wrote:On April 30 2021 00:37 Xain0n wrote:On April 30 2021 00:13 tigera6 wrote:On April 29 2021 23:34 Xain0n wrote:
Also Maru definitely didn't "remain dominant", he seems to be enjoying a resurgence this year; he never ceased to be a top player but he was very far from his apex. Last year Maru won a ST, KoB, get to the Final of GSL code S, Asus RoG and top 4 in TSL 6. Other than TY and Rogue, I dont see any Korean had a more successful year than him. And that was him having a bad shoulder throughout the year. Meawhile, Serral, who has not won a mega big tournament since winning the Blizzcon in 2018, also fell off from his throne but nobody really feel he was out of it. I would love to see a Grand Finals match up with between these 2 in some global events this year, after dropping all the new competitors, and light up that hype among the fans. And you would call that "dominance"? I'm bored of listing Serral's accomplishements in 2019 but there were plenty of reasons for considering him overall the best in the world, or at least the player who had the highest chance of winning any tournament he would have entered. Serral was not dominant in 2020 despite still being at the very top, I disagree on the fact nobody recognized that. 2020 was not a "dominant" year by anyone, and there were several players who could get the title best player of the year at the IEM. But it was definitely NOT Serral "at the very top", no matter how you want to spin it yourself. Did he win the most title? Wont the most tournament? The answer is No and No. While its simply being a hater to say Serral washed up, he was NOT even close to what he did in 2018, or even 2019. I would give you 2019 Serral as the best player because of the overall "body of work", but his achievement was starting to fell down a small bit, did not win WESG, IEM and Blizzcon in 2019. Yet you acting like he was still as dominant in 2019 and refuse to see the downward trend is puzzling to me. It's pretty clear, and I have said that many times, that Serral in 2018(post ascension) was an untouchable god, that he became "just" the best in the world in 2019(exactly as you are saying) and he downgraded to "just" one of the strongest players around in 2020(which he still is in 2021 with the difference that he hasn't won anything this year). I perfectly agree, nobody was dominant in 2020 and when I say "at the very top" I mean "one of the players who could have been the best if there really was one". Serral's downward trend seems to be real but it is has been so slow and it started from such an unbelievable apex that he still always is to be considered a championship contender; there isn't any apparent reason for which he should go further and stop being competitive, I'd expect to see him win other titles before he decides to retire. You guys must really love when I write about Serral, it seems I'm being being dragged into discussions about his accomplishments or current level regardless of the original topic. To be honest, we are very much on the same page after everything is cleared up. Its always good to discuss about stuff that we are passionate about, which is SC2 esport scence. As long as its not becoming toxic and offensive, I actually enjoy it. And like I said, I would love to see a Maru vs Serral in a Grand Final of a global tournament this year, the hype on it would be unbelievable.
At this point I think we should hold back the Maru-Serral final for Katowice 2022-23. It would be a nice way to end this competitive cycle with it.
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 30 2021 01:47 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2021 01:33 tigera6 wrote:On April 30 2021 01:07 Xain0n wrote:On April 30 2021 00:46 tigera6 wrote:On April 30 2021 00:37 Xain0n wrote:On April 30 2021 00:13 tigera6 wrote:On April 29 2021 23:34 Xain0n wrote:
Also Maru definitely didn't "remain dominant", he seems to be enjoying a resurgence this year; he never ceased to be a top player but he was very far from his apex. Last year Maru won a ST, KoB, get to the Final of GSL code S, Asus RoG and top 4 in TSL 6. Other than TY and Rogue, I dont see any Korean had a more successful year than him. And that was him having a bad shoulder throughout the year. Meawhile, Serral, who has not won a mega big tournament since winning the Blizzcon in 2018, also fell off from his throne but nobody really feel he was out of it. I would love to see a Grand Finals match up with between these 2 in some global events this year, after dropping all the new competitors, and light up that hype among the fans. And you would call that "dominance"? I'm bored of listing Serral's accomplishements in 2019 but there were plenty of reasons for considering him overall the best in the world, or at least the player who had the highest chance of winning any tournament he would have entered. Serral was not dominant in 2020 despite still being at the very top, I disagree on the fact nobody recognized that. 2020 was not a "dominant" year by anyone, and there were several players who could get the title best player of the year at the IEM. But it was definitely NOT Serral "at the very top", no matter how you want to spin it yourself. Did he win the most title? Wont the most tournament? The answer is No and No. While its simply being a hater to say Serral washed up, he was NOT even close to what he did in 2018, or even 2019. I would give you 2019 Serral as the best player because of the overall "body of work", but his achievement was starting to fell down a small bit, did not win WESG, IEM and Blizzcon in 2019. Yet you acting like he was still as dominant in 2019 and refuse to see the downward trend is puzzling to me. It's pretty clear, and I have said that many times, that Serral in 2018(post ascension) was an untouchable god, that he became "just" the best in the world in 2019(exactly as you are saying) and he downgraded to "just" one of the strongest players around in 2020(which he still is in 2021 with the difference that he hasn't won anything this year). I perfectly agree, nobody was dominant in 2020 and when I say "at the very top" I mean "one of the players who could have been the best if there really was one". Serral's downward trend seems to be real but it is has been so slow and it started from such an unbelievable apex that he still always is to be considered a championship contender; there isn't any apparent reason for which he should go further and stop being competitive, I'd expect to see him win other titles before he decides to retire. You guys must really love when I write about Serral, it seems I'm being being dragged into discussions about his accomplishments or current level regardless of the original topic. To be honest, we are very much on the same page after everything is cleared up. Its always good to discuss about stuff that we are passionate about, which is SC2 esport scence. As long as its not becoming toxic and offensive, I actually enjoy it. And like I said, I would love to see a Maru vs Serral in a Grand Final of a global tournament this year, the hype on it would be unbelievable. At this point I think we should hold back the Maru-Serral final for Katowice 2022-23. It would be a nice way to end this competitive cycle with it.
Only if it's online, otherwise it will be meh.
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On April 30 2021 01:52 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2021 01:47 Nakajin wrote:On April 30 2021 01:33 tigera6 wrote:On April 30 2021 01:07 Xain0n wrote:On April 30 2021 00:46 tigera6 wrote:On April 30 2021 00:37 Xain0n wrote:On April 30 2021 00:13 tigera6 wrote:On April 29 2021 23:34 Xain0n wrote:
Also Maru definitely didn't "remain dominant", he seems to be enjoying a resurgence this year; he never ceased to be a top player but he was very far from his apex. Last year Maru won a ST, KoB, get to the Final of GSL code S, Asus RoG and top 4 in TSL 6. Other than TY and Rogue, I dont see any Korean had a more successful year than him. And that was him having a bad shoulder throughout the year. Meawhile, Serral, who has not won a mega big tournament since winning the Blizzcon in 2018, also fell off from his throne but nobody really feel he was out of it. I would love to see a Grand Finals match up with between these 2 in some global events this year, after dropping all the new competitors, and light up that hype among the fans. And you would call that "dominance"? I'm bored of listing Serral's accomplishements in 2019 but there were plenty of reasons for considering him overall the best in the world, or at least the player who had the highest chance of winning any tournament he would have entered. Serral was not dominant in 2020 despite still being at the very top, I disagree on the fact nobody recognized that. 2020 was not a "dominant" year by anyone, and there were several players who could get the title best player of the year at the IEM. But it was definitely NOT Serral "at the very top", no matter how you want to spin it yourself. Did he win the most title? Wont the most tournament? The answer is No and No. While its simply being a hater to say Serral washed up, he was NOT even close to what he did in 2018, or even 2019. I would give you 2019 Serral as the best player because of the overall "body of work", but his achievement was starting to fell down a small bit, did not win WESG, IEM and Blizzcon in 2019. Yet you acting like he was still as dominant in 2019 and refuse to see the downward trend is puzzling to me. It's pretty clear, and I have said that many times, that Serral in 2018(post ascension) was an untouchable god, that he became "just" the best in the world in 2019(exactly as you are saying) and he downgraded to "just" one of the strongest players around in 2020(which he still is in 2021 with the difference that he hasn't won anything this year). I perfectly agree, nobody was dominant in 2020 and when I say "at the very top" I mean "one of the players who could have been the best if there really was one". Serral's downward trend seems to be real but it is has been so slow and it started from such an unbelievable apex that he still always is to be considered a championship contender; there isn't any apparent reason for which he should go further and stop being competitive, I'd expect to see him win other titles before he decides to retire. You guys must really love when I write about Serral, it seems I'm being being dragged into discussions about his accomplishments or current level regardless of the original topic. To be honest, we are very much on the same page after everything is cleared up. Its always good to discuss about stuff that we are passionate about, which is SC2 esport scence. As long as its not becoming toxic and offensive, I actually enjoy it. And like I said, I would love to see a Maru vs Serral in a Grand Final of a global tournament this year, the hype on it would be unbelievable. At this point I think we should hold back the Maru-Serral final for Katowice 2022-23. It would be a nice way to end this competitive cycle with it. Only if it's online, otherwise it will be meh.
Yeah, I dont want ESL to cut the prizepool in half again, only to give it to every region but Korea.
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On April 30 2021 01:33 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2021 01:07 Xain0n wrote:On April 30 2021 00:46 tigera6 wrote:On April 30 2021 00:37 Xain0n wrote:On April 30 2021 00:13 tigera6 wrote:On April 29 2021 23:34 Xain0n wrote:
Also Maru definitely didn't "remain dominant", he seems to be enjoying a resurgence this year; he never ceased to be a top player but he was very far from his apex. Last year Maru won a ST, KoB, get to the Final of GSL code S, Asus RoG and top 4 in TSL 6. Other than TY and Rogue, I dont see any Korean had a more successful year than him. And that was him having a bad shoulder throughout the year. Meawhile, Serral, who has not won a mega big tournament since winning the Blizzcon in 2018, also fell off from his throne but nobody really feel he was out of it. I would love to see a Grand Finals match up with between these 2 in some global events this year, after dropping all the new competitors, and light up that hype among the fans. And you would call that "dominance"? I'm bored of listing Serral's accomplishements in 2019 but there were plenty of reasons for considering him overall the best in the world, or at least the player who had the highest chance of winning any tournament he would have entered. Serral was not dominant in 2020 despite still being at the very top, I disagree on the fact nobody recognized that. 2020 was not a "dominant" year by anyone, and there were several players who could get the title best player of the year at the IEM. But it was definitely NOT Serral "at the very top", no matter how you want to spin it yourself. Did he win the most title? Wont the most tournament? The answer is No and No. While its simply being a hater to say Serral washed up, he was NOT even close to what he did in 2018, or even 2019. I would give you 2019 Serral as the best player because of the overall "body of work", but his achievement was starting to fell down a small bit, did not win WESG, IEM and Blizzcon in 2019. Yet you acting like he was still as dominant in 2019 and refuse to see the downward trend is puzzling to me. It's pretty clear, and I have said that many times, that Serral in 2018(post ascension) was an untouchable god, that he became "just" the best in the world in 2019(exactly as you are saying) and he downgraded to "just" one of the strongest players around in 2020(which he still is in 2021 with the difference that he hasn't won anything this year). I perfectly agree, nobody was dominant in 2020 and when I say "at the very top" I mean "one of the players who could have been the best if there really was one". Serral's downward trend seems to be real but it is has been so slow and it started from such an unbelievable apex that he still always is to be considered a championship contender; there isn't any apparent reason for which he should go further and stop being competitive, I'd expect to see him win other titles before he decides to retire. You guys must really love when I write about Serral, it seems I'm being being dragged into discussions about his accomplishments or current level regardless of the original topic. To be honest, we are very much on the same page after everything is cleared up. Its always good to discuss about stuff that we are passionate about, which is SC2 esport scence. As long as its not becoming toxic and offensive, I actually enjoy it. And like I said, I would love to see a Maru vs Serral in a Grand Final of a global tournament this year, the hype on it would be unbelievable.
Under these conditions, discussions are indeed enjoyable; couldn't say they always are on this forum.
I would personally prefer to see new players rise instead of having another 2018; however, seeing Maru's shape and Serral's amazing consistency in international tournaments we could have a Maru-Serral final already next month.
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I've gotten used to watching the games without the commentaries ; usually I listen to podcasts and watch the games at the same time. But thank God, tonight I watched some of the games with sound during dinner, and if you didn't listen to the commentaries, do yourself a favor and watch g6. The story of the archon who wanted to go back to his birthplace made me laugh extremely hard, and I'm pretty sure you'll laugh too ^^. Definitely peak performance Tastosis.
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Whys maru vs serral still a thing? serral will rip apart maru in a bo5/bo7. thats just a fact and it has happened before. only clem or cure can take on serral in tvz. maru is probably overall still best terran if u consider other matchups and his lategame, but this maru vs serral crap needs to stop
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 30 2021 05:27 Obamarauder wrote:
Whys maru vs serral still a thing? serral will rip apart maru in a bo5/bo7. thats just a fact and it has happened before. only clem or cure can take on serral in tvz. maru is probably overall still best terran if u consider other matchups and his lategame, but this maru vs serral crap needs to stop
See, I think that offline Maru will win 4:0, 4:1 if he's gonna meme. Aaaaaaand that's why we should leave Serral out of Code S. He doesn't play in it, no reason to mention him.
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This was really not a great series. Perhaps one of the least fun 7-game series in a long time. The players played great of course, but there was not a single midgame in the series where the players were on even footing. Each game was lost either to a single mistake that is not fun for the viewers (running into a stasis ward, losing 15 workers to 2 hellions, losing 3 DTs to one scan, or the unfortunate proxy stargate game's ending) or to a build order loss. The fact that a proxy stargate game was the most interesting one in the series pretty much says it all. This series felt more like Poker than Starcraft.
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On April 30 2021 05:27 Obamarauder wrote:
Whys maru vs serral still a thing? serral will rip apart maru in a bo5/bo7. thats just a fact and it has happened before. only clem or cure can take on serral in tvz. maru is probably overall still best terran if u consider other matchups and his lategame, but this maru vs serral crap needs to stop
Because it's Xainon, he has to make EVERY thread about Serral.
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On April 30 2021 08:14 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2021 05:27 Obamarauder wrote:
Whys maru vs serral still a thing? serral will rip apart maru in a bo5/bo7. thats just a fact and it has happened before. only clem or cure can take on serral in tvz. maru is probably overall still best terran if u consider other matchups and his lategame, but this maru vs serral crap needs to stop Because it's Xainon, he has to make EVERY thread about Serral.
Are you for real? Did you even care to read how the conversation in this thread evolved?
Not only I wasn't the one mentioning Serral first this time, I have also never been especially interested in who would win between Serral and Maru; since you guys brought out the topic, however, I'll inform you that I think Serral's style would give him an advantage over Maru considering how the latter likes to play TvZ at the moment.
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On April 30 2021 08:32 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2021 08:14 Vindicare605 wrote:On April 30 2021 05:27 Obamarauder wrote:
Whys maru vs serral still a thing? serral will rip apart maru in a bo5/bo7. thats just a fact and it has happened before. only clem or cure can take on serral in tvz. maru is probably overall still best terran if u consider other matchups and his lategame, but this maru vs serral crap needs to stop Because it's Xainon, he has to make EVERY thread about Serral. Are you for real? Did you even care to read how the conversation in this thread evolved? Not only I wasn't the one mentioning Serral first this time, I have also never been especially interested in who would win between Serral and Maru; since you guys brought out the topic, however, I'll inform you that I think Serral's style would give him an advantage over Maru considering how the latter likes to play TvZ at the moment.
You quoted me when I talked about the Protoss players in the military and brought up Serral.
Jeez man, sometimes I wonder if you ever think about what you write before or after you do it. Seriously, go back and read. I just did.
I didn't mention Serral once in my post but you had to.
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On April 30 2021 05:27 Obamarauder wrote:
Whys maru vs serral still a thing? serral will rip apart maru in a bo5/bo7. thats just a fact and it has happened before. only clem or cure can take on serral in tvz. maru is probably overall still best terran if u consider other matchups and his lategame, but this maru vs serral crap needs to stop
Not sure where you get your "fact" from? Last time they played it was a Bo3 and Serral won 2-1 and it was an epic match. Then, Maru was literrally 1 game away, or 1 miss Infestor Fungal shot away, from beating the World Champ Reynor in IEM, and yet you think it would be a mis-match against Serral? You will have your point if Rogue turn up and 4-0 or 4-1 Maru next week, but to say such thing now is just plain silly.
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On April 30 2021 06:51 iloveoof wrote:
This was really not a great series. Perhaps one of the least fun 7-game series in a long time. The players played great of course, but there was not a single midgame in the series where the players were on even footing. Each game was lost either to a single mistake that is not fun for the viewers (running into a stasis ward, losing 15 workers to 2 hellions, losing 3 DTs to one scan, or the unfortunate proxy stargate game's ending) or to a build order loss. The fact that a proxy stargate game was the most interesting one in the series pretty much says it all. This series felt more like Poker than Starcraft.
Personally, I think it was Trap who wanted to make things weird first. Apparently he had no interest in a long macro game and focus on getting the early damage with DT/Oracle and snowball into a mid-game push before Maru can expand into the 4th. Most of Maru stuff, other than the proxy, are standard Terran harrassment and Trap defended it fairy well other than that Helion bust.
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