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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
April 29 2021 11:31 GMT
#281
4-3 + a reverse sweep, sounds like an amazing series..... But it really was not..... What a terrible series of games.....
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
April 29 2021 11:36 GMT
#282
I missed game 5 and 6, I really enjoyed what I saw besides game 4 which was just perplexing. If he only pushed his advantage harder when Trap only had a void ray he should won a lot easier.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4953 Posts
April 29 2021 11:36 GMT
#283
On April 29 2021 20:31 weiliem wrote:
4-3 + a reverse sweep, sounds like an amazing series..... But it really was not..... What a terrible series of games.....



whaat? they were tons of fun, the utterly domination of Trap in the first 3 games. Game 3 best PvT vs Maru I can recall. Game 4 was so close to be a a Trap victory too, then even the 2 last DT games were a bit crazy because it meant Maru getting closer to the reverse sweep. and game 7; the missing scout and trap face when he saw the bunker were golden. Super fun series.;
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
April 29 2021 11:37 GMT
#284
On April 29 2021 20:36 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2021 20:31 weiliem wrote:
4-3 + a reverse sweep, sounds like an amazing series..... But it really was not..... What a terrible series of games.....



whaat? they were tons of fun, the utterly domination of Trap in the first 3 games. Game 3 best PvT vs Maru I can recall. Game 4 was so close to be a a Trap victory too, then even the 2 last DT games were a bit crazy because it meant Maru getting closer to the reverse sweep. and game 7; the missing scout and trap face when he saw the bunker were golden. Super fun series.;

in terms of game quality it wasnt a Clem vs Serral kind of series but that doesnt mean its not fun to watch - I agree
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-29 11:38:07
April 29 2021 11:37 GMT
#285
On April 29 2021 20:37 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2021 20:36 Argonauta wrote:
On April 29 2021 20:31 weiliem wrote:
4-3 + a reverse sweep, sounds like an amazing series..... But it really was not..... What a terrible series of games.....



whaat? they were tons of fun, the utterly domination of Trap in the first 3 games. Game 3 best PvT vs Maru I can recall. Game 4 was so close to be a a Trap victory too, then even the 2 last DT games were a bit crazy because it meant Maru getting closer to the reverse sweep. and game 7; the missing scout and trap face when he saw the bunker were golden. Super fun series.;

in terms of game quality it wasnt a Clem vs Serral kind of series but that doesnt mean its not fun to watch - I agree


Yea we didn't see anyone die to Helbat rushes so it definitely wasn't Clem vs Serral level.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3409 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-29 11:40:30
April 29 2021 11:38 GMT
#286
It seems to me that Trap realized he cant beat Maru in a straight up macro game, so he did EVERYTHING to make it weird, I think he did every single cheese that Toss can pull off in recent months. After being down 0-3, Maru realized that and was doing everything he could to survive the early Toss cheese and make the push to win the games.

If you hide the name of the player, I would have thought that SoS was playing the Toss in the last 4 games of that series.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12889 Posts
April 29 2021 11:38 GMT
#287
On April 29 2021 20:31 Vindicare605 wrote:
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On April 29 2021 20:29 Fango wrote:
After Trap came so close to throwing a 3-0 lead against Stats, is it safe to say he has trouble closing out series?


uhh, that's always been a thing with him. He's only looked lately like he's finally overcome it but when you're against one of the most clutch players in the world I guess it creeps back.

He looked not confident at all anymore after losing the 2nd one.
WriterMaru
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 29 2021 11:41 GMT
#288
On April 29 2021 20:38 tigera6 wrote:
It seems to me that Trap realized he cant beat Maru in a straight up macro game, so he did EVERYTHING to make it weird, I think he did every single cheese that Toss can pull off in recent months. After being down 0-3, Maru realized that and was doing everything he could to survive the early Toss cheese and make the push to win the games.

Nah, Maru was down 0-3 and still going for proxy raxes. He wasn't playing safe and defensive even though it would have probably been the right thing to do.

Remember when Maru went down 0-2 to sOs doing proxies? And everyone called him an idiot for doing it in game 3? Well sometimes it works (see: Maru TY first GSL finals, this series).
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12889 Posts
April 29 2021 11:42 GMT
#289
On April 29 2021 20:41 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2021 20:38 tigera6 wrote:
It seems to me that Trap realized he cant beat Maru in a straight up macro game, so he did EVERYTHING to make it weird, I think he did every single cheese that Toss can pull off in recent months. After being down 0-3, Maru realized that and was doing everything he could to survive the early Toss cheese and make the push to win the games.

Nah, Maru was down 0-3 and still going for proxy raxes. He wasn't playing safe and defensive even though it would have probably been the right thing to do.

Remember when Maru went down 0-2 to sOs doing proxies? And everyone called him an idiot for doing it in game 3? Well sometimes it works (see: Maru TY first GSL finals, this series).

Today proxies were far less committed than the ones vs sOs (except the bunker rush) though. Like proxying a single barracks with reaper compared to proxying cyclones and marauders...
WriterMaru
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-29 11:43:13
April 29 2021 11:43 GMT
#290
On April 29 2021 20:41 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2021 20:38 tigera6 wrote:
It seems to me that Trap realized he cant beat Maru in a straight up macro game, so he did EVERYTHING to make it weird, I think he did every single cheese that Toss can pull off in recent months. After being down 0-3, Maru realized that and was doing everything he could to survive the early Toss cheese and make the push to win the games.

Nah, Maru was down 0-3 and still going for proxy raxes. He wasn't playing safe and defensive even though it would have probably been the right thing to do.

Remember when Maru went down 0-2 to sOs doing proxies? And everyone called him an idiot for doing it in game 3? Well sometimes it works (see: Maru TY first GSL finals, this series).

It works almost all the time, the sOs fiasco at Blizzcon is the exception.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3409 Posts
April 29 2021 11:44 GMT
#291
On April 29 2021 20:41 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2021 20:38 tigera6 wrote:
It seems to me that Trap realized he cant beat Maru in a straight up macro game, so he did EVERYTHING to make it weird, I think he did every single cheese that Toss can pull off in recent months. After being down 0-3, Maru realized that and was doing everything he could to survive the early Toss cheese and make the push to win the games.

Nah, Maru was down 0-3 and still going for proxy raxes. He wasn't playing safe and defensive even though it would have probably been the right thing to do.

Remember when Maru went down 0-2 to sOs doing proxies? And everyone called him an idiot for doing it in game 3? Well sometimes it works (see: Maru TY first GSL finals, this series).

I think Maru wasnt really all-in in his Proxy other than that last game. It was a single rack trying to mess Trap build timing up while he still building up at home. He was able to get energy build-up for the scan, also making decently early Raven was indicating how careful he was going to be.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 29 2021 11:45 GMT
#292
On April 29 2021 20:43 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2021 20:41 Fango wrote:
On April 29 2021 20:38 tigera6 wrote:
It seems to me that Trap realized he cant beat Maru in a straight up macro game, so he did EVERYTHING to make it weird, I think he did every single cheese that Toss can pull off in recent months. After being down 0-3, Maru realized that and was doing everything he could to survive the early Toss cheese and make the push to win the games.

Nah, Maru was down 0-3 and still going for proxy raxes. He wasn't playing safe and defensive even though it would have probably been the right thing to do.

Remember when Maru went down 0-2 to sOs doing proxies? And everyone called him an idiot for doing it in game 3? Well sometimes it works (see: Maru TY first GSL finals, this series).

It works almost all the time, the sOs fiasco at Blizzcon is the exception.


It works except when you're trying to proxy fucking sOs. Don't play the proxy game with sOs, he's the MASTER of proxy warfare.

I call Maru an idiot to this day for that because at the time he was CLEARLY the superior player in macro games and he's going against the cheese master, so he fights cheese master with cheese. That's not smart. That's playing HIS game, not yours. Make him play YOUR game.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 29 2021 11:47 GMT
#293
On April 29 2021 20:42 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2021 20:41 Fango wrote:
On April 29 2021 20:38 tigera6 wrote:
It seems to me that Trap realized he cant beat Maru in a straight up macro game, so he did EVERYTHING to make it weird, I think he did every single cheese that Toss can pull off in recent months. After being down 0-3, Maru realized that and was doing everything he could to survive the early Toss cheese and make the push to win the games.

Nah, Maru was down 0-3 and still going for proxy raxes. He wasn't playing safe and defensive even though it would have probably been the right thing to do.

Remember when Maru went down 0-2 to sOs doing proxies? And everyone called him an idiot for doing it in game 3? Well sometimes it works (see: Maru TY first GSL finals, this series).

Today proxies were far less committed than the ones vs sOs (except the bunker rush) though. Like proxying a single barracks with reaper compared to proxying cyclones and marauders...

Sure, but proxy rax isn't exactly a defensive "survive any cheese" build like tigera6 was suggesting.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
machinus
Profile Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-29 12:03:29
April 29 2021 12:02 GMT
#294
It's so weird how people don't mind every game being proxy Oracle or proxy DTs, but one bunker rush is "cheese."
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 29 2021 12:07 GMT
#295
On April 29 2021 21:02 machinus wrote:
It's so weird how people don't mind every game being proxy Oracle or proxy DTs, but one bunker rush is "cheese."


Protoss are expected to cheese. Also Maru won the series.

Guaranteed if Trap had won Game 4 this thread would be doing nothing except talking about that disgusting proxy Void Ray/Tempest/Shield Battery build.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
SpecKROELLchen
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany151 Posts
April 29 2021 12:09 GMT
#296
The final game felt so satisfying from terran perspective afte all this voidray, dt shit just give it back and throw him out with a very risky bunker rush :D. But also i feel sad for trap somehow but i think he learned a lot from this last game and will never forget, which makes him even more dangerous in the futue.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 29 2021 12:11 GMT
#297
On April 29 2021 21:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2021 21:02 machinus wrote:
It's so weird how people don't mind every game being proxy Oracle or proxy DTs, but one bunker rush is "cheese."


Protoss are expected to cheese. Also Maru won the series.

Guaranteed if Trap had won Game 4 this thread would be doing nothing except talking about that disgusting proxy Void Ray/Tempest/Shield Battery build.

It is disgusting and should be patched out.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
April 29 2021 12:15 GMT
#298
On April 29 2021 21:11 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2021 21:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 29 2021 21:02 machinus wrote:
It's so weird how people don't mind every game being proxy Oracle or proxy DTs, but one bunker rush is "cheese."


Protoss are expected to cheese. Also Maru won the series.

Guaranteed if Trap had won Game 4 this thread would be doing nothing except talking about that disgusting proxy Void Ray/Tempest/Shield Battery build.

It is disgusting and should be patched out.


Yeah, even though Maru won it, that game still felt pretty gross to watch.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 29 2021 12:32 GMT
#299
On April 29 2021 21:15 neutralrobot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2021 21:11 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 29 2021 21:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 29 2021 21:02 machinus wrote:
It's so weird how people don't mind every game being proxy Oracle or proxy DTs, but one bunker rush is "cheese."


Protoss are expected to cheese. Also Maru won the series.

Guaranteed if Trap had won Game 4 this thread would be doing nothing except talking about that disgusting proxy Void Ray/Tempest/Shield Battery build.

It is disgusting and should be patched out.


Yeah, even though Maru won it, that game still felt pretty gross to watch.


I threw my fist into the air when Trap GG'd out. Games like those are especially satisfying to see the person defending the cheese to stop. Maru's move with the Vikings turned out to be genius, but obviously you can't do that on every map.
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La1
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom659 Posts
April 29 2021 12:32 GMT
#300
Felt like a huge throw from trap
crushes 3 games and then does super risky dumb builds 3 times in a row and fails all of them..

game 4. cheese fail followed by throw
game 5 . throw (stupid build and maru vs a standard maru build?)
game 6. throw after catching the proxy
game 7 failed scout BOW Win

and the final game? it's fucking maru.. HE ALWAYS PROXIES!

How have people not learnt this yet?

really really poor from trap.
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