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On November 25 2019 06:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Obviously there is bias from pretty much everyone engaging in these conversations (including what i am about to say), but when i look at these ZvX games i don't really have the feeling that zerg can lose if they play well. If they have a decent opening and don't completely fail (apparently killing your own expo isn't enough either!) they always seem to be favored.
A million units roling in with minimal micro required while the other races just die to it, creep everywhere with static d approaching your bases, super potent spellcasting combos, ferrari overlords scouting every move, etc.
I think zerg is by far the best race if you want to be consistent at the very top right now, so yeah they might play well but it always feels like it might just be a little easier to do so.
Zerg was absurdly op before the patch. We don't have enough information to know if it's still the case now. There is no result that this tournament could have had that would have given us this information, and acting like it's the case is weird.
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maybe they'll both off race and we get a TvP
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The problem to me is that the games didn't even feel close. There were not so much sense of excitement and suspense but rather an impending, inevitable doom for the terran/protoss. It feels like if zerg plays "perfectly" and reaches the late-game, the protoss/terran can't play their "perfect" and reach their late-game style to win.
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rofl, Rotti with the slip
"I don't think we could have scripted this any better"
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On November 25 2019 06:08 Dave4 wrote:
I don't understand the balance whine at all, they literally just had a major nerf. Zerg had the least players in Ro16. It just happens that 2 of the top 3 players in the world are in the tournament and it's unsurprising that they reached the finals. People should be applauding them for making it in spite of the nerf which claimed all other zergs in the tournament.
I did say after the september power rank article that Reynor deserved to be in the top 10, and that his prior losses to koreans weren't representative of his average performance. Aligulac showed that clearly, and it's only recently that his tournament results began to reflect his rating. This is proof that judging players by their most recent tournament results is just plain stupid, especially given how coin-flippy the single-elimination format is. If this tournament wasn't a double elimination, everyone would say that Inno crushed Serral.
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On November 25 2019 06:11 [F_]aths wrote:
Applause for TakeSen.
This actually is better than Blizzcon.
Without any exaggeration: imo, the Homestory Cup is the best eSports event period. I know it's not the most "serious business" at times, but I just feel like there's nothing that comes close.
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On November 25 2019 06:20 sneakyfox wrote:
rofl, Rotti with the slip
"I don't think we could have scripted this any better"
The "if we tried" was implied here :D
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On November 25 2019 06:19 LTCM wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2019 05:53 Xain0n wrote:On November 25 2019 05:51 Charoisaur wrote:On November 25 2019 05:34 Musicus wrote:
People surprised about a ZvZ final when you have both Reynor and Serral in the tournament.
Two of the best players in the world meeting in the final does not mean a lot. If tons of zerg players had advanced from the group stage ok, but we had just 1 from each group. Overall the best players did as expected, except Stats imo. nobody denies that Serral and Reynor are good but I don't think the players of the other races suck either. All the best Protoss players were present except Neeb, so better Protoss performance should be expected. Yes, Terran was missing TY and Maru but Zerg was also missing Rogue and Dark but it still didn't prevent a ZvZ finals. Can't you just believe Reynor and Serral played better today? Did you watch the games? Zest could have easily gone up 2-1 against Serral if he were more decisive, playing just like he was doing. Yes, and they played better the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before......... And then suddenly you realize all the zergs have been playing better for the last two years. Magic!
That's the thing, it's not all the zergs, look a the race distribution in the ro16.
4 zergs.
Reynor, Serral, soO, Solar.
What is there to complain about?
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On November 25 2019 06:21 ChaosArcher wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2019 06:20 sneakyfox wrote:
rofl, Rotti with the slip
"I don't think we could have scripted this any better"
The "if we tried" was implied here :D
Nah man. We all know that every major tournament is scripted from start to finish 
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If there one thing that may be OP in it that banelings are just 0.5 supply. Banelings beat everything if you have resources for it. Banelings at 1 supply would suck though, maybe 0.75 supply would the balanced.
But typically you do not have the resources for 50+ banelings if you were not winning already, so it is hard to tell.
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I hope we get at least one shroud rush game
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On November 25 2019 06:23 Penev wrote:
I hope we get at least one shroud rush game
all I want for Christmas
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kinda crazy this can be anywhere between 3 and 8 games
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On November 25 2019 06:23 Penev wrote:
I hope we get at least one shroud rush game
If we don't get that I seriously think TaKe should fire his scriptwriters.
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On November 25 2019 06:24 Schelim wrote:
kinda crazy this can be anywhere between 3 and 8 games
A bit unavoidable if you want something that's fair to the winner (a one map advantage isn't sufficient). I like it personally.
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Poll: Who will win?Hockey gifs (10) 63% Drunk Santa (6) 38% 16 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Hockey gifs
(Vote): Drunk Santa
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For Serral to win it's basically a bo9 lmao
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I know the shroud is a bit of a meme but surely it actually potential use against mutas in this matchup right?
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On November 25 2019 06:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2019 06:24 Schelim wrote:
kinda crazy this can be anywhere between 3 and 8 games A bit unavoidable if you want something that's fair to the winner (a one map advantage isn't sufficient). I like it personally.
i don't necessarily dislike it, just saying it's a huge variability in amount of games. we may be done in 20 minutes or we may be here for a few hours
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