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Poopi
France12907 Posts
On November 25 2019 05:57 Charoisaur wrote: who said anything on foreigners vs koreans? I think it's still a bit too early to be sure. Hopefully things aren't so bad as last patch (it's hard to top anyways) But usually zergs tend to do well after a few weeks of a new patch, so it's maybe worrying / kinda weird they are still doing surprisingly well. | ||
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Dave4
494 Posts
On November 25 2019 05:57 Charoisaur wrote: who said anything on foreigners vs koreans? You, in every post you've ever written pretty much. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On November 25 2019 05:59 stilt wrote: I must admit, I was pretty sure Zerg late game would be bad and wouldn't have bet on a zvz final. Happy I was wrong  Same here. | ||
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JJH777
United States4415 Posts
On November 25 2019 05:53 Xain0n wrote: Can't you just believe Reynor and Serral played better today? Did you watch the games? Zest could have easily gone up 2-1 against Serral if he were more decisive, playing just like he was doing. I could believe they played better today. I can't believe soO, Dark, Rogue, Elazer, Solar, Serral, and Reynor have all played better than the multitude of T/P players who haven't done as well as them this year. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On November 25 2019 05:51 Charoisaur wrote: nobody denies that Serral and Reynor are good but I don't think the players of the other races suck either. All the best Protoss players were present except Neeb, so better Protoss performance should be expected. Yes, Terran was missing TY and Maru but Zerg was also missing Rogue and Dark but it still didn't prevent a ZvZ finals. Hm, what would be better Protoss performance? Way more Protoss advanced than Zergs from the group stage. We had 1 Protoss in the top 4, seems about right when i look at the lineup. Sure we could've had two with Stats/Trap in the tournament, but you never know. I think it's pretty cool that Inno made top3 already and with TY/Maru/Dark missing, that final just seems right. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On November 25 2019 06:03 JJH777 wrote: I could believe they played better today. I can't believe soO, Dark, Rogue, Elazer, Solar, Serral, and Reynor have all played better than the multitude of T/P players who haven't done as well as them this year. Those were other patches. The one that hit post GSL vs The World was especially poor and too favourable to Zerg. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On November 25 2019 05:59 Poopi wrote: I think it's still a bit too early to be sure. Hopefully things aren't so bad as last patch (it's hard to top anyways) But usually zergs tend to do well after a few weeks of a new patch, so it's maybe worrying / kinda weird they are still doing surprisingly well. I'm mostly a big fan of the patch but it's not as crazy (and far more balanced) than previous end-of-year stuff. Zerg doesn't need to relearn drone timings and defensive timings like they've had to in the past so the transitions has felt a lot smoother. Feels like they still haven't fully figured out how to defend the new mech very well but they kinda got a bit lucky that the only Terran who survived far doesn't like mech in TvZ (and ofc, Reynor scrapped by Cure in close games). Otherwise, they've adapted very quickly cos it's much of the same, they're just a bit weaker. | ||
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Obamarauder
697 Posts
On November 25 2019 06:03 JJH777 wrote: I could believe they played better today. I can't believe soO, Dark, Rogue, Elazer, Solar, Serral, and Reynor have all played better than the multitude of T/P players who haven't done as well as them this year. Not a whine post but zergs just easier to play for weekend tournaments. u need refined builds and diverse strategy as terran and protoss to compete  | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12379 Posts
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Dave4
494 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On November 25 2019 06:07 Nebuchad wrote: Funny, we all say balance but we all mean "My guys should be winning" Balance might also mean zerg not winning 2/3 of tournaments. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12379 Posts
On November 25 2019 06:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Balance might also mean zerg not winning 2/3 of tournaments. There's been 1 tournament. Any race that would have won it would have won 1/1 of tournaments. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
This actually is better than Blizzcon. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On November 25 2019 06:10 Nebuchad wrote: There's been 1 tournament. Any race that would have won it would have won 1/1 of tournaments. Zerg's won two thirds of the tournaments this year, two thirds of the tournaments last year, a ZvZ final ain't a promising beginning for 2020. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On November 25 2019 06:10 Nebuchad wrote: There's been 1 tournament. Any race that would have won it would have won 1/1 of tournaments. Well, it's still part of 2k19. And the changes weren't that drastic to say it's a huge rework. | ||
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ChaosArcher
Germany956 Posts
On November 25 2019 06:11 [F_]aths wrote: Applause for TakeSen. This actually is better than Blizzcon. One small German boi against a billion dollar company, The madman actually did it. So awesome. | ||
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Penev
28512 Posts
On November 25 2019 06:14 ChaosArcher wrote: One small German boi against a billion dollar company, The madman actually did it. So awesome. yeah, he truly is a zerg, I Mean winner! ;D | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
A million units roling in with minimal micro required while the other races just die to it, creep everywhere with static d approaching your bases, super potent spellcasting combos, ferrari overlords scouting every move, etc. I think zerg is by far the best race if you want to be consistent at the very top right now, so yeah they might play well but it always feels like it might just be a little easier to do so. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12379 Posts
On November 25 2019 06:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Zerg's won two thirds of the tournaments this year, two thirds of the tournaments last year, a ZvZ final ain't a promising beginning for 2020. Yes, I agree with your assessment that my guys should be winning  | ||
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LTCM
174 Posts
On November 25 2019 05:53 Xain0n wrote: Can't you just believe Reynor and Serral played better today? Did you watch the games? Zest could have easily gone up 2-1 against Serral if he were more decisive, playing just like he was doing. Yes, and they played better the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before......... And then suddenly you realize all the zergs have been playing better for the last two years. Magic! | ||
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