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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
October 26 2019 07:02 GMT
#341
On October 26 2019 16:01 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2019 15:59 stilt wrote:
On October 26 2019 15:55 TaKeTV wrote:
On October 26 2019 15:49 fgonzo wrote:
On October 26 2019 15:48 Seeker wrote:
He had it in the bag, and he threw it so hard because he got impatient...


No he didnt. Reynor clawed his way back because he's the better player


I am sorry but no. It was 4 base Protoss vs 3 base Zerg and it was basically 1 mining base vs 2 or 2.5; He had disruptors and the better army, simply not attacking - even letting him take another base would ahve been fine while teching to carriers. That would be the first option.

The second option would have been to properly control his army and stick with the disruptor pressure + oracle revelation and pressure via prisma warpin or runby in the main or 3rd. It was a 100% throw by herO and whoever cannot see his clearly isn't in touch with Starcraft. He should have been happy already going 2 robo disruptors vs lurkers and there were little options to lose besides constantly running into lurkers and getting all core units abducted without actually hitting lurkers.... so no, it was not "clawed his way back" . And to be frank: this series was FAR BELOW Reynors real skill level. :X


I am under the same impression he is not at his ladder/wcs level, HM should take this.

He often plays below his level against koreans, I'm sure Heromarine will have to play against a stronger Reynor.


I am not sure, I think the stage matters, HM beats him 3-0 at the last homestory cup, we'll see even if tbf, big Gabe can beat Reynor at his best.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 26 2019 07:03 GMT
#342
It s utterly hillarious, how some people here watched that game 5 then drew the conclusion, "yep, there s a balance issue, hard proof right here"
i dont even ... .:D
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
October 26 2019 07:03 GMT
#343
vipers abducting units much larger than themselves still looks funny
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 26 2019 07:04 GMT
#344
On October 26 2019 16:00 Noa Greenini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2019 15:55 TaKeTV wrote:
On October 26 2019 15:49 fgonzo wrote:
On October 26 2019 15:48 Seeker wrote:
He had it in the bag, and he threw it so hard because he got impatient...


No he didnt. Reynor clawed his way back because he's the better player


I am sorry but no. It was 4 base Protoss vs 3 base Zerg and it was basically 1 mining base vs 2 or 2.5; He had disruptors and the better army, simply not attacking - even letting him take another base would ahve been fine while teching to carriers. That would be the first option.

The second option would have been to properly control his army and stick with the disruptor pressure + oracle revelation and pressure via prisma warpin or runby in the main or 3rd. It was a 100% throw by herO and whoever cannot see his clearly isn't in touch with Starcraft. He should have been happy already going 2 robo disruptors vs lurkers and there were little options to lose besides constantly running into lurkers and getting all core units abducted without actually hitting lurkers.... so no, it was not "clawed his way back" . And to be frank: this series was FAR BELOW Reynors real skill level. :X


I think you underestimate how frantic the game was at that point. Your analysis here shows you don't understand the place ones head is in, in those situations. Sure: Reynor clawing his way back relies on herO making mistakes, but he often gets caught up in his attacks. You assume herO has perfect information and is level headed, but in that situation no ones head is.

You can at least see in Reynors face that he was pretty sure he lost when he was back on 1 mining base and had to be defensive with lurkers. Not sure how herO could have thought he wasn't ahead by a lot. I'm guessing he did and that's why he made that reckless carriers switch which wasn't a good idea.
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
542 Posts
October 26 2019 07:06 GMT
#345
i really hope that Big Game goes trough first, so we can have herO vs. Reynor rematch
CraigWT
Profile Joined May 2019
97 Posts
October 26 2019 07:07 GMT
#346
On October 26 2019 15:57 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
The question is, if Gabe wins, can he still fit in the studio?


Not gonna happen, terran doesn’t deserve to win against Zerg

User was warned for this post.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37121 Posts
October 26 2019 07:07 GMT
#347
Fuck it... Now that it's come to this, I'm going to root for HeRoMaRinE. I want to see another Terran in the Ro8.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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fgonzo
Profile Joined September 2019
108 Posts
October 26 2019 07:08 GMT
#348
On October 26 2019 16:07 Seeker wrote:
Fuck it... Now that it's come to this, I'm going to root for HeRoMaRinE. I want to see another Terran in the Ro8.


I personally want a all Zerg Ro4
FBTsingLoong
Profile Joined April 2018
China410 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 07:16:51
October 26 2019 07:13 GMT
#349
No offense,today's match can't even make people want to whine about balance.
TyInnoMaruByunAlive,TIMBA
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
October 26 2019 07:17 GMT
#350
On October 26 2019 16:13 FBTsingLoong wrote:
No offend,today's match can't even make people want to whine about balance.


Don't get me started...I like posting here
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
October 26 2019 07:17 GMT
#351
I guess EU Terrans just can't micro
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States282 Posts
October 26 2019 07:19 GMT
#352
On October 26 2019 16:13 FBTsingLoong wrote:
No offend,today's match can't even make people want to whine about balance.


It says, if one player plays perfect but still cannot win against a normal player, or a terrible player can win against a normal player, there may be something wrong about balance.
But if both players play terrible and the outcome is simply decided by who make less mistakes, how do you know whether there are balance issue?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 26 2019 07:21 GMT
#353
Free farm? Do ultras gain gold from kills?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 26 2019 07:22 GMT
#354
Ballsy by Heromarine to exand there, now he's pretty dead tho.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 26 2019 07:22 GMT
#355
I'm impressed with Heromarine's resilience, but at no point in this game has he remotely looked ahead.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
October 26 2019 07:23 GMT
#356
traitor widow mines
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3173 Posts
October 26 2019 07:24 GMT
#357
That felt like a painfully slow death. HeroMarine did well to fight and attempt to stay in it though.
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fgonzo
Profile Joined September 2019
108 Posts
October 26 2019 07:25 GMT
#358
Holy fuck Reynor is so good. This guy won't be stopped at all, especially not in ZvZ
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
October 26 2019 07:25 GMT
#359
Why try to go bio vs Reynor? Bio can work if you have better mechanics, otherwise mech is the better option.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 26 2019 07:26 GMT
#360
On October 26 2019 16:25 MockHamill wrote:
Why try to go bio vs Reynor? Bio can work if you have better mechanics, otherwise mech is the better option.

Apparently it is not.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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