EPT[WCS 2019] Global Finals - Group C - Page 17
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Noa Greenini
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On October 26 2019 15:51 Ej_ wrote: *herO plays one of the worst games of his career* "WOW insane game, Reynor is crazy good!!!" Gamelosing carrier switch ;o instantly best contender for Zest award | ||
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TaKeTV
Germany1201 Posts
On October 26 2019 15:49 fgonzo wrote: No he didnt. Reynor clawed his way back because he's the better player I am sorry but no. It was 4 base Protoss vs 3 base Zerg and it was basically 1 mining base vs 2 or 2.5; He had disruptors and the better army, simply not attacking - even letting him take another base would ahve been fine while teching to carriers. That would be the first option. The second option would have been to properly control his army and stick with the disruptor pressure + oracle revelation and pressure via prisma warpin or runby in the main or 3rd. It was a 100% throw by herO and whoever cannot see his clearly isn't in touch with Starcraft. He should have been happy already going 2 robo disruptors vs lurkers and there were little options to lose besides constantly running into lurkers and getting all core units abducted without actually hitting lurkers.... so no, it was not "clawed his way back" . And to be frank: this series was FAR BELOW Reynors real skill level. :X | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
Lurkers can now shoot air. Also ultralisk can go full shark mode and charge while burrowed and then leap through the air like a majestic creatures they are. Does shittone of damage to anything in the air or in the landing zone. No, no friendly fire to other zerg units. x] | ||
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Ej_
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On October 26 2019 15:53 Circumstance wrote: Now, we're up next for a series that asks the real question: Can Gabe get any bigger than this? While he has lost a lot vs Reynor recently, he also has a positive record against him. I hope he can do it. | ||
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Kitai
United States886 Posts
On October 26 2019 15:53 Waxangel wrote: As a Has fan, I guess I have to reluctantly admit I was entertained by that game or I'd just be being biased  Reluctantly?! It was such a beautiful mess the entire way through  | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
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franzji
United States583 Posts
On October 26 2019 15:51 Ej_ wrote: *herO plays one of the worst games of his career* "WOW insane game, Reynor is crazy good!!!" Gamelosing carrier switch ;o Reynor wasn't playing perfect either, the opposite of perfect really, mistakes and outplays make series more exciting... I really think he couldn't starve Reynor out though as someone else said Hero should have, he had to transition, Reynor just choose to push like a very smart player would do. But yeah seriously carriers suck so much. | ||
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pzlama333
United States282 Posts
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terribleplayer1
95 Posts
herO just donated the warp prism, if he just kept the warp prism where it was the game was over, even if he moved the WP to the middle of the map the game was over... then he basically couldnt control his army and kept donating so many units to lurkers.. jesus what a throw | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
On October 26 2019 15:55 TaKeTV wrote: I am sorry but no. It was 4 base Protoss vs 3 base Zerg and it was basically 1 mining base vs 2 or 2.5; He had disruptors and the better army, simply not attacking - even letting him take another base would ahve been fine while teching to carriers. That would be the first option. The second option would have been to properly control his army and stick with the disruptor pressure + oracle revelation and pressure via prisma warpin or runby in the main or 3rd. It was a 100% throw by herO and whoever cannot see his clearly isn't in touch with Starcraft. He should have been happy already going 2 robo disruptors vs lurkers and there were little options to lose besides constantly running into lurkers and getting all core units abducted without actually hitting lurkers.... so no, it was not "clawed his way back" . And to be frank: this series was FAR BELOW Reynors real skill level. :X I am under the same impression he is not at his ladder/wcs level, HM should take this. | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
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ASCandLoLFan
25 Posts
Looking at the games over the past year, I just have to say that so many Korean players like soO, herO, INnoVation, Maru to an extent, Zest are mechanically skilled but so boneheaded and incapable of decision making. Watching them makes me so frustrated. Europeans (or non Koreans in general) approach the game in a much more flexible and cerebral way with better decision making. | ||
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Noa Greenini
265 Posts
On October 26 2019 15:55 TaKeTV wrote: I am sorry but no. It was 4 base Protoss vs 3 base Zerg and it was basically 1 mining base vs 2 or 2.5; He had disruptors and the better army, simply not attacking - even letting him take another base would ahve been fine while teching to carriers. That would be the first option. The second option would have been to properly control his army and stick with the disruptor pressure + oracle revelation and pressure via prisma warpin or runby in the main or 3rd. It was a 100% throw by herO and whoever cannot see his clearly isn't in touch with Starcraft. He should have been happy already going 2 robo disruptors vs lurkers and there were little options to lose besides constantly running into lurkers and getting all core units abducted without actually hitting lurkers.... so no, it was not "clawed his way back" . And to be frank: this series was FAR BELOW Reynors real skill level. :X I think you underestimate how frantic the game was at that point. Your analysis here shows you don't understand the place ones head is in, in those situations. Sure: Reynor clawing his way back relies on herO making mistakes, but he often gets caught up in his attacks. You assume herO has perfect information and is level headed, but in that situation no ones head is. | ||
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Kitai
United States886 Posts
On October 26 2019 15:58 pzlama333 wrote: I just feel that all 4 players of this group play terrible at some point and commit mistakes after mistakes from both sides, especially when compare to yesterday's games of group B. I wonder whether TIME or Stats may advance if they are in this group. Judging by yesterday's games I would say maybe TIME but probably not Stats. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On October 26 2019 15:59 stilt wrote: I am under the same impression he is not at his ladder/wcs level, HM should take this. He often plays below his level against koreans, I'm sure Heromarine will have to play against a stronger Reynor. | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
On October 26 2019 15:59 Circumstance wrote: I mentioned this during Ravi's preview chat, but the thing with Reynor and Gabe, as well as Maru as the ultimate example, is that we, the community, have truly watched them grow up before our eyes. They all started so, so young, and look at them now. Best of the best. I felt the same with Stephano, it's weird because you feel a sort of connection/ emotional link with the player which ofc is artificial. Very fun game anyway. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On October 26 2019 16:00 Noa Greenini wrote: I think you underestimate how frantic the game was at that point. Your analysis here shows you don't understand the place ones head is in, in those situations. Sure: Reynor clawing his way back relies on herO making mistakes, but he often gets caught up in his attacks. You assume herO has perfect information and is level headed, but in that situation no ones head is. I want to have a podcast of LR bonjwas teaching Naruto competitive Starcraft | ||
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CraigWT
97 Posts
And maybe, elazer will be the only player who lose to non-zerg player (and maybe he can also beat trap) For some comments saying that always that Zerg just simply player better and their opponents made some many mistakes, I am just wondering does it mean choosing Zerg just make me become a better player? Zergs never make mistakes? | ||
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