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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On May 04 2019 19:01 Dave4 wrote: Puma was actually pretty influential in his time. I could see it being a close match with Maru in some ways.. There is indeed a criteria which would make it close, nickname length as the deciding factor! | ||
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Elentos
55510 Posts
On May 04 2019 20:07 The_Red_Viper wrote: There is indeed a criteria which would make it close, nickname length as the deciding factor! Not even close. Maru is a cat, Puma is a big cat. Puma >>>>>> Maru. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On May 04 2019 20:09 Elentos wrote: Not even close. Maru is a cat, Puma is a big cat. Puma >>>>>> Maru. Right how could i forget the obvious, puma it is! | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Match 17  MMA:64 votesSpeCial: 7 votesMMA goes through!Match 18 TY: 58 votes Snute: 12 votesTY goes through!Match 19 Maru: 64 votesPuMa: 6 votesMaru goes through!Match 20 HyuN: 49 votesDream: 18 votesHyuNbelivable! HyuN goes to the next round! | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Theses polls are closed A quick update first, I'm gonna do 3 uptade this week, one of Monday night, one on Thursday, and one on next Saturday to close the round of 64. Almost all the round of 64 match-up have been ludicrously on sided, so I'm gonna speed run it, since there's only a couple of interesting polls. Match 21  Rain vs CreatorRain: 1 GSL, 1 Kespa Cup, 1 HSC, 1 Starleague, 1 Blizzard cup, 1 OSL final, most ever Ace wins in proleague, with 14 (with an insane 82% winrate as ace). A player bursting into the scene with the Kespa transition, his slow and defensive play revolutionized the way protoss was played and he became one of the most respected and feared Protoss player, achieving stable success in Korea.Creator: 1 TSL, 1 WCS Korea, 1 World championship final (the one in China), the youngest Starcraft 2 player to ever win a championship, he was held as the next Protoss super star, expectation he never was able to fulfill, breaking the top8 of a tournament after 2012, but his average to downright mediocre results in the last half decade shouldn't overshadow his great highs at the start of his career.Match 22: Stats vs MarineKingStats: 1 Cross final, 1 GSL, 1 ST, 1 SSL, 2IEM Katowice final, 1 Blizzcon final, 1 SSL and GSL final and a couple other premier finals as well as a good number of top 4. One of the most successful protoss players of all time, the shield of Aiur is in many way the hair of Rain, a master of defensive macro play. Although sometime called a Kong for his high number of second place, it's also a matter of having reach a very high number of finals period, winning or not. MarineKing: 2MLG, 2 GSL finals, 1 Kespa cup final, 1 GSL WC final, Prime ace player, perhaps the most high profile player to failed to win his group in the round of 128, one of the best Terrans of the start of WOL, he became kind of a Kong in GSL. He innovated micro for Terrans being known for his great marine split and control. He was also very loved in the foreign scene and had a very big fan base.Match 23: MC vs TrapMC: 2 GSL, 1 HSC, 1 IEM WC, 1 WCS EU, 2 WCS EU finals, 1 GSL final, the Boss Toss was one of the deadliest player of WOL, with 3 GSL finals appearances on the back of decisive timing. Even after his moved to EU never lost his edge, knowing to seize the moment when he saw it. Considered the greatest Protoss by pretty much everyone before the Kespa switch, MC also did maybe more than anyone else behind the scene, building the Korean scene in Europe, helping new players come in and getting their name out there. He also push other Koreans to players show their personality and embrace the "showbiz" aspect of esport (something he himself has always been a master at).Trap: 1 MLG, 1 Kespa cup final, 1 IEM WC final, 1 GSL semi-final, forever on the bring of greatness he's been the next big thing for pretty much all his career, winning the rookie award in the 2012-13 Proleague. He had some day in the sun, but his Kespa status meant he had less opportunity to play oversea.Match 24: Rogue vs FirstRogue: 1 Blizzcon, 1IEM Katowice, 1 ST, 1 IEM, 2 Blizzcon semi-final, the JinAir already deadly 3rd man, caught fire at the end of 2017, winning 4 premiers tournaments between July 2017 and March 2018 becoming the second player to joined the IEM and WCS crown and being the first player to truly be considered for the tittle of Bonwja. Rogue is an anomaly in the mist of Koreans zerg, being perfectly comfortable in the late and very late game.First: 1 IEM, 1 IEM WC final, 1 MLG final, a very good Protoss at the end of WOL, he moved to the WCS circuit but altought placing high never had major victory. He also was part of one of the strangely entertaining end game of all time vs Life (very very very stupid tho) Fun fact: You had forgot he existedPolls are open until Monday March 6 around 8 pm EST | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Also, MC is atrociously undreappreciated, he is the most accomplished Protoss in sc2 history(yes, herO won one more Premier but MC reached like seven more finals for a total of SEVENTEEN! Insane). | ||
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yht9657
1810 Posts
On May 05 2019 10:09 Nakajin wrote: We could have a very tasty match up with Rain vs Stats next round. This is an atrocity, confirmed bracket rigging. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6860 Posts
Pretty one-sided results in all polls so far. Not even MKP has a chance | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17959 Posts
On May 06 2019 18:12 Harris1st wrote: BossToss showing how it's done. Pretty one-sided results in all polls so far. Not even MKP has a chance I tried. He was just such a micro beast. I remember when he beat Boxer. Granted, Boxer was never even a shadow of his peak BW self, but to see this young kid who even picked boxer as a nickname beat his idol was pretty awesome. He was one of the ones to pioneer many of the terran moves that we think are "standard" today. If only he had actually won a few of those many many finals he reached... MKP the original SC2 kong. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On May 06 2019 19:33 Acrofales wrote: I tried. He was just such a micro beast. I remember when he beat Boxer. Granted, Boxer was never even a shadow of his peak BW self, but to see this young kid who even picked boxer as a nickname beat his idol was pretty awesome. He was one of the ones to pioneer many of the terran moves that we think are "standard" today. If only he had actually won a few of those many many finals he reached... MKP the original SC2 kong. I think MarineKing might have more significantly influenced the game in a short period of time than anyone. His Ro8 match vs Kyrix pretty much redefined the role of the marine in TvZ and made basically pure bio play appear viable vs banelings. That kind of marine control is standard now but he showed us what was possible far ahead of his time. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
 come on people, we gotta turn that one around. My all time favorite player. | ||
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Jealous
10117 Posts
On May 07 2019 06:10 Pokebunny wrote: I think MarineKing might have more significantly influenced the game in a short period of time than anyone. His Ro8 match vs Kyrix pretty much redefined the role of the marine in TvZ and made basically pure bio play appear viable vs banelings. That kind of marine control is standard now but he showed us what was possible far ahead of his time. Basically this. We know his name for a revolutionary change to the game. Few other top players can say the same IMO. | ||
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Z3nith
485 Posts
On May 07 2019 06:54 Jealous wrote: Basically this. We know his name for a revolutionary change to the game. Few other top players can say the same IMO. Interestingly Stats has made his contributions to the meta, especially of late. I think it was IEM Katowice 2017 that he introduced Oracle into the meta or it might have been mass oracle. And then recently he is the one that standardised the stalker warp prism harass in PvZ. Of course these aren't of the same magnitude of MKP but he has still made some pretty important contributions to the recent meta. | ||
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Jealous
10117 Posts
On May 07 2019 07:48 Z3nith wrote: Interestingly Stats has made his contributions to the meta, especially of late. I think it was IEM Katowice 2017 that he introduced Oracle into the meta or it might have been mass oracle. And then recently he is the one that standardised the stalker warp prism harass in PvZ. Of course these aren't of the same magnitude of MKP but he has still made some pretty important contributions to the recent meta. Fair points, and it might be nostalgia speaking, but I'd rather honor those that built the foundation than those that built the bell tower even if the latter is more relevant to the here and now. As a BW fan I was a big fan of Stats before he even made the transition but in terms of impact on SC2, as a relative outsider I think MKP name stands out far greater. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Match 21 Rain: 42 votesCreator: 5 votesRain goes through!Match 22 Stats: 37 votesMarineKing: 15 votesStats goes through! (Sorry for all the MarineKing fans to cut his comeback short but I don't think another 24 hours would have been enough)Match 23 MC: 45 votesTrap: 1 voteMC goes through!Match 24 Rogue: 44 votesFirst: 2 votesRogue goes through! | ||
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votemkp10
1 Post
On May 07 2019 09:15 Nakajin wrote: Results! Match 22 Stats: 37 votesMarineKing: 15 votesStats goes through! (Sorry for all the MarineKing fans to cut his comeback short but I don't think another 24 hours would have been enough)Awe well, was worth a shot  . The school computer lab was open and I thought what the hell, I'll at least make it interesting. Didn't want it to be a roflstomp.GG WP to all. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Theses polls are closed Match 25: PartinG vs ShoWTimEPartinG : 1 World championship, 1 WESG, 1 Dreamhack, 1 HSC, 3 GSL related finals, only player to have the well named Parting award for 10 consecutive round of 16 in GSL code S. One of our only player truly able to bring the trash-talk and back it up, he as always been at his best in front of the camera. A master of soul trains and all ins, he maintained stable results and success in his career, but failed to ever win a tournament in Korea as of yet.ShoWTimE: 1 WCS, 2 WCS finals, Die Mauer the greatest German protoss came on the forefront on the European scene at the end of HOTS, but it was truly in LOTV that he became widely known as one of the best of the continent, reaching 2 finals in the first year of the expansion including a nail-biting 4-3 win over Nerchio at home in Germany. He was in the end unable to follow foreign super stars Neeb and Serral but still stayed the master of macro Protoss in Europe, and his moment may yet come.Match 26: ByuN vs LosiraByuN: 1 Blizzcon, 1 GSL, 1 WCA, the man of two life, his first life between 2010 and the end of 2013 saw him reach 2 GSL semi final, but his was his second life after a sudden disappearance that will make him reminded in history. When the first rumor of a ByuN return emerge of China it was mostly meet with meme, then followed an inexorable rise to the top, from the dept of Olimoleague to lifting the trophy in front of the Blizzcon crowd. Known for his exceptional micro, he also had an amazing build knowledge, being a master of a million builds. (999 998 give or take)Losira: 1 GSL final, 1 MLG final, 1 code A, 20 code S participation. A constant face in the Korean scene, after his top results in 2011, his relatively low chance to play oversea forced him to go over and over into the GSL meat-grinder for years but still manage to find a place for himself.Match 27: Zest vs ForGGZest: 2 GSL, 1 GSL Global championship, 1 Kespa Cup, 2 HSC, 1 IEM. The Best is as well known for his poster boy good look as for his expert protoss play. One of the most successful Protoss on Korean ground with 4 championship including a GSL royal road, Zest has played both defensive and aggressive masterfully in his career. Not particularly known for his impeccable micro or macro it’s his knack for finding hole in the other players play and jumping on the opportunity that made him an elite player.ForGG: 1 Dreamhack, 1 Dreamhack final, 3 WCS semi-final, hailed as the first elephant to make the switch to SC2 almost a year before Kespa, he turned out to rather be a mouse in his beginning in Korea. He would have more success after his expatriation to France, and despite winning a single championship his 2 consecutive wins over then-world-champion Life shocked the Starcraft world. He also manages to kill himself with mines in the most wonderful way until Revival came along.Match 28: HuK vs HarstemHuK: 2 MLG, 1 Dreamhack, the NA Protoss champion carried the flag against the Korean alongside his nemesis IdrA both in America and in GSL, winning 2 premier over Koreans. He also was at the center of the EG-TL rivalry playing on both sides and getting the praises and shitstorm of 2011 Starcraft explosion in popularity. Harstem: 1 HSC, 1 Gold series, we have been living in his jubilee for half a decade, the captain of the foreign scene Harstem has a took his opportunity winning tournament on his only 2 trips to a semi-final of a premier tournament. One of the most openly emotional players, he became one of the most recognizable and charismatic face in the scene. Also he is officially a greater player than MaNa, Sniper, RorO and ByuL, so good for him.Polls are open until Thursday may 9 around 8pm EST Theses polls are closed | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
I am thinking about what I should do next for the coming round and if you guys do like them I'm maybe gonna try to do other write up for the next rounds (match-up specific for example). But if everyone skip them (no blame lol) I might repeat the same one, its fun for me to do (except player I have nothing to care about) but they do take a surprisingly long amount of time to do despite quality of the final product and the 5 errors per phrase. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On May 07 2019 09:55 Nakajin wrote: Also out of curiosity, do you guys read/care about the little write up I do? I am thinking about what I should do next for the coming round and if you guys do like them I'm maybe gonna try to do other write up for the next rounds (match-up specific for example). But if everyone skip them (no blame lol) I might repeat the same one, its fun for me to do (except player I have nothing to care about) but they do take a surprisingly long amount of time to do despite quality of the final product and the 5 errors per phrase. I love the write ups man. Keep it up! But in the spirit of this thread, let's put it to a vote: Poll: Do you read Nakajin's write-ups Yes! (27) No. (6) 33 total votes Your vote: Do you read Nakajin's write-ups | ||
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