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Canada8989 Posts
On November 26 2018 04:04 Musicus wrote:
Okay now this is unexpected.
Still wondering about Reynor.
Whot
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On November 26 2018 04:03 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 04:01 RaFox17 wrote:On November 26 2018 04:00 IshinShishi wrote:
ooooh I love this build Not imba? Terran is imba. That proxy dude is imba as hell  Over 100 % win ratio
More like boring when spammed.
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On November 26 2018 04:03 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 03:44 deacon.frost wrote:On November 26 2018 03:40 Xain0n wrote:On November 26 2018 03:28 deacon.frost wrote:On November 26 2018 03:20 LordYama wrote:On November 26 2018 03:11 IshinShishi wrote:On November 26 2018 03:09 LordYama wrote:On November 26 2018 03:07 Rodya wrote:
Once again, Bunny played better than Serral the entire game until 4 medivacs got caught and then the game became virtually unwinnable. Just so we are clear, are you commenting on the quality of play from the two players and how it led to the outcome, or is this a balance complaint saying that Zerg is OP compared to Terran? I think zvt is imba and at the same time Serral is much better than Bunny ;D, also catching the medivacs didnt really make much of a difference , Bunny failed to find any weaknesses at all. You think it's imba in favor of Zerg? How do you account for soO, Rogue and Reynor losing so many matches to Terrans in this tournament? They all just had a bad tournament at the same time? Of those 3 only Raynor was playing good inthe tourney. Rogue didn't even try and soO was still slumping hard. Reynor needs to learn how to play vs mines as he somehow missed this era or totally forgot Using Rogue especially is a pathetic try as he played horriblpy. (not saying ZvT is imba, but on the other hand it would explain why so many good foreigner are zergs ) The player base for Zerg is relatively larger in EU/NA than in KR; implying than a korean is better than a foreigner nevertheless and that if a non korean wins it's because of op Zerg is frankly out of place in 2018. In this HSC were invited most of the best Zerg players in the world while not actually the top Protoss or Terran; i was expecting a full Z top4 or something similar, instead we have seen an overabundance of Terran. Only Serral is in the top8 and he is the best player in the world right now, how could it be? Sure, Zerg players may be underperforming but maybe the patch actually changed something? ASSUMING Zerg were op before, they definitely are not anymore; at least, it appears they aren't at the moment. Oh FFS how many smileys do i have to use so people understand it's a joke... Zergs in Korea are in slump, Dark's not there, Rogue is volatile and we lost some great names(eg Soulkey). At the same time Korean Terrans are actually good enough to use their racial advantage. We used to had plenty of good Zergs in Korea, in the blink era IIRC it was 50/50 ZP and 3 Terran  Given the average opinion here, smileys need to be properly answered. If you exclude Life and Nestea, korean Zergs in sc2 have been slumping forever(except for HoTS era)! Despite Serral's victories this year, Zergs have the fewest Premier victories out of the three races(not by much, it's pretty close).
On LoTV : Z 19 premier, P 18, T 16. And Z also have the highest number of runner up.
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On November 26 2018 04:06 DieuCure wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 04:03 Xain0n wrote:On November 26 2018 03:44 deacon.frost wrote:On November 26 2018 03:40 Xain0n wrote:On November 26 2018 03:28 deacon.frost wrote:On November 26 2018 03:20 LordYama wrote:On November 26 2018 03:11 IshinShishi wrote:On November 26 2018 03:09 LordYama wrote:On November 26 2018 03:07 Rodya wrote:
Once again, Bunny played better than Serral the entire game until 4 medivacs got caught and then the game became virtually unwinnable. Just so we are clear, are you commenting on the quality of play from the two players and how it led to the outcome, or is this a balance complaint saying that Zerg is OP compared to Terran? I think zvt is imba and at the same time Serral is much better than Bunny ;D, also catching the medivacs didnt really make much of a difference , Bunny failed to find any weaknesses at all. You think it's imba in favor of Zerg? How do you account for soO, Rogue and Reynor losing so many matches to Terrans in this tournament? They all just had a bad tournament at the same time? Of those 3 only Raynor was playing good inthe tourney. Rogue didn't even try and soO was still slumping hard. Reynor needs to learn how to play vs mines as he somehow missed this era or totally forgot Using Rogue especially is a pathetic try as he played horriblpy. (not saying ZvT is imba, but on the other hand it would explain why so many good foreigner are zergs ) The player base for Zerg is relatively larger in EU/NA than in KR; implying than a korean is better than a foreigner nevertheless and that if a non korean wins it's because of op Zerg is frankly out of place in 2018. In this HSC were invited most of the best Zerg players in the world while not actually the top Protoss or Terran; i was expecting a full Z top4 or something similar, instead we have seen an overabundance of Terran. Only Serral is in the top8 and he is the best player in the world right now, how could it be? Sure, Zerg players may be underperforming but maybe the patch actually changed something? ASSUMING Zerg were op before, they definitely are not anymore; at least, it appears they aren't at the moment. Oh FFS how many smileys do i have to use so people understand it's a joke... Zergs in Korea are in slump, Dark's not there, Rogue is volatile and we lost some great names(eg Soulkey). At the same time Korean Terrans are actually good enough to use their racial advantage. We used to had plenty of good Zergs in Korea, in the blink era IIRC it was 50/50 ZP and 3 Terran Given the average opinion here, smileys need to be properly answered. If you exclude Life and Nestea, korean Zergs in sc2 have been slumping forever(except for HoTS era)! Despite Serral's victories this year, Zergs have the fewest Premier victories out of the three races(not by much, it's pretty close). On LoTV : Z 19 premier, P 18, T 16. And Z also have the highest number of runner up.
What are the numbers if you exclude region-locked tournaments?
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I know that the TLPD has not been updated since two years but is it possible that Serral (would've) hit the highest Elo-Rating to date?
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I love how this all-in fucks lowground gate over lol
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On November 26 2018 04:03 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 03:44 deacon.frost wrote:On November 26 2018 03:40 Xain0n wrote:On November 26 2018 03:28 deacon.frost wrote:On November 26 2018 03:20 LordYama wrote:On November 26 2018 03:11 IshinShishi wrote:On November 26 2018 03:09 LordYama wrote:On November 26 2018 03:07 Rodya wrote:
Once again, Bunny played better than Serral the entire game until 4 medivacs got caught and then the game became virtually unwinnable. Just so we are clear, are you commenting on the quality of play from the two players and how it led to the outcome, or is this a balance complaint saying that Zerg is OP compared to Terran? I think zvt is imba and at the same time Serral is much better than Bunny ;D, also catching the medivacs didnt really make much of a difference , Bunny failed to find any weaknesses at all. You think it's imba in favor of Zerg? How do you account for soO, Rogue and Reynor losing so many matches to Terrans in this tournament? They all just had a bad tournament at the same time? Of those 3 only Raynor was playing good inthe tourney. Rogue didn't even try and soO was still slumping hard. Reynor needs to learn how to play vs mines as he somehow missed this era or totally forgot Using Rogue especially is a pathetic try as he played horriblpy. (not saying ZvT is imba, but on the other hand it would explain why so many good foreigner are zergs ) The player base for Zerg is relatively larger in EU/NA than in KR; implying than a korean is better than a foreigner nevertheless and that if a non korean wins it's because of op Zerg is frankly out of place in 2018. In this HSC were invited most of the best Zerg players in the world while not actually the top Protoss or Terran; i was expecting a full Z top4 or something similar, instead we have seen an overabundance of Terran. Only Serral is in the top8 and he is the best player in the world right now, how could it be? Sure, Zerg players may be underperforming but maybe the patch actually changed something? ASSUMING Zerg were op before, they definitely are not anymore; at least, it appears they aren't at the moment. Oh FFS how many smileys do i have to use so people understand it's a joke... Zergs in Korea are in slump, Dark's not there, Rogue is volatile and we lost some great names(eg Soulkey). At the same time Korean Terrans are actually good enough to use their racial advantage. We used to had plenty of good Zergs in Korea, in the blink era IIRC it was 50/50 ZP and 3 Terran Given the average opinion here, smileys need to be properly answered. If you exclude Life and Nestea, korean Zergs in sc2 have been slumping forever(except for HoTS era)! Despite Serral's victories this year, Zergs have the fewest Premier victories out of the three races(not by much, it's pretty close).
The problem is that you can't look just at the victories. This way soO would be just an ordinary player while he was 2nd placing every GSL he met
When I open the Premier tournaments on the LP I see plenty of zerg names there like Rogue, soO(the last year Blizzcon finals BTW), Solar, Dark. And in WoL we had Life, Leenock, NesTea, Sniper, Roro, DRG, Symbol
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Finals Zest made an appearance.
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Zest did his best 
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INno was quick to found some good abusive strats in TvP
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Well that was kinda underwhelming.
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well that did not go as Zest expected
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On November 26 2018 04:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2018 04:06 DieuCure wrote:On November 26 2018 04:03 Xain0n wrote:On November 26 2018 03:44 deacon.frost wrote:On November 26 2018 03:40 Xain0n wrote:On November 26 2018 03:28 deacon.frost wrote:On November 26 2018 03:20 LordYama wrote:On November 26 2018 03:11 IshinShishi wrote:On November 26 2018 03:09 LordYama wrote:On November 26 2018 03:07 Rodya wrote:
Once again, Bunny played better than Serral the entire game until 4 medivacs got caught and then the game became virtually unwinnable. Just so we are clear, are you commenting on the quality of play from the two players and how it led to the outcome, or is this a balance complaint saying that Zerg is OP compared to Terran? I think zvt is imba and at the same time Serral is much better than Bunny ;D, also catching the medivacs didnt really make much of a difference , Bunny failed to find any weaknesses at all. You think it's imba in favor of Zerg? How do you account for soO, Rogue and Reynor losing so many matches to Terrans in this tournament? They all just had a bad tournament at the same time? Of those 3 only Raynor was playing good inthe tourney. Rogue didn't even try and soO was still slumping hard. Reynor needs to learn how to play vs mines as he somehow missed this era or totally forgot Using Rogue especially is a pathetic try as he played horriblpy. (not saying ZvT is imba, but on the other hand it would explain why so many good foreigner are zergs ) The player base for Zerg is relatively larger in EU/NA than in KR; implying than a korean is better than a foreigner nevertheless and that if a non korean wins it's because of op Zerg is frankly out of place in 2018. In this HSC were invited most of the best Zerg players in the world while not actually the top Protoss or Terran; i was expecting a full Z top4 or something similar, instead we have seen an overabundance of Terran. Only Serral is in the top8 and he is the best player in the world right now, how could it be? Sure, Zerg players may be underperforming but maybe the patch actually changed something? ASSUMING Zerg were op before, they definitely are not anymore; at least, it appears they aren't at the moment. Oh FFS how many smileys do i have to use so people understand it's a joke... Zergs in Korea are in slump, Dark's not there, Rogue is volatile and we lost some great names(eg Soulkey). At the same time Korean Terrans are actually good enough to use their racial advantage. We used to had plenty of good Zergs in Korea, in the blink era IIRC it was 50/50 ZP and 3 Terran Given the average opinion here, smileys need to be properly answered. If you exclude Life and Nestea, korean Zergs in sc2 have been slumping forever(except for HoTS era)! Despite Serral's victories this year, Zergs have the fewest Premier victories out of the three races(not by much, it's pretty close). On LoTV : Z 19 premier, P 18, T 16. And Z also have the highest number of runner up. What are the numbers if you exclude region-locked tournaments?
He said "despite serral's victories" so i assume he doesnt exclude region-locked tournaments.
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TvZ is a best matchup in Starcraft - it is the quintessential
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On November 26 2018 04:09 Bagration wrote:
TvZ is a best matchup in Starcraft - it is the quintessential
It has always been that way 
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Proxy is all you need to know, Inno
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EPT
