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On March 24 2018 15:38 HyDrA_solic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 15:36 starkiller123 wrote:On March 24 2018 15:33 HyDrA_solic wrote:
Can anyone tell me the reason behind seeker missile design?
So basically we have a spell that:
- Deals little damage
- AoE
- Cuts down armor
However!, it can be massed (like everything in SC2) and has absolutely no counter micro possible.
Maru did play way better than Dark in these two last games, but I can't find any possible reason for this design to be in the game. yeah like parasitic bomb vs air units!! wait I'm thinking of a word that starts with s and ends in plitting that is good against both, weird You're kidding right? Have you seen Dark (the best Zerg in the world) trying to split vs that many seeker missiles? It's inhuman to do it effectivly. What I'm trying to say is: Seeker Missile has 0 counter play at the moment. That's the single reason that mass raven is being abused
Yeah Terran is dominating the game.
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On March 24 2018 15:37 Hikki_Hibiki1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 15:35 TentativePanda wrote:
Impossible task: Name a zerg unit that counters the ghost zerglings/banelings counter ghosts pretty well, but comparing one on one units to find counters is kinda pointless.
LOL. Did you not see all the banelings getting kited this series (and when they do detonate ghosts are as tanky as marauders). Also, good luck surrounding unprotected ghosts with 50 lings for 30 seconds while the lings slowlyyy chew through their armor
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On March 24 2018 15:38 HyDrA_solic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 15:36 starkiller123 wrote:On March 24 2018 15:33 HyDrA_solic wrote:
Can anyone tell me the reason behind seeker missile design?
So basically we have a spell that:
- Deals little damage
- AoE
- Cuts down armor
However!, it can be massed (like everything in SC2) and has absolutely no counter micro possible.
Maru did play way better than Dark in these two last games, but I can't find any possible reason for this design to be in the game. yeah like parasitic bomb vs air units!! wait I'm thinking of a word that starts with s and ends in plitting that is good against both, weird You're kidding right? Have you seen Dark (the best Zerg in the world) trying to split vs that many seeker missiles? It's inhuman to do it effectivly. What I'm trying to say is: Seeker Missile has 0 counter play at the moment. That's the single reason that mass raven is being abused
and I'm saying you are wrong, there is counter play, he literally smashed ravens on Abyssal Reef with ling bane hydra ultra viper
but whatever its not worth debating with you
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On March 24 2018 15:39 Ansibled wrote:Ghosts sniping things is actually the best sound in the game.
Dunno about that. I think it would sound pretty nice if they played the overlord sound each time a ghost fired.
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Maru has gotten super good at the lategame, doubly impressive from a guy that struggled in the turtle-mech era of 2015
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That picture is awesome.
Stats trying to be sexy in his jacket. Maru just hamming it up
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On March 24 2018 15:40 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 15:38 HyDrA_solic wrote:On March 24 2018 15:36 starkiller123 wrote:On March 24 2018 15:33 HyDrA_solic wrote:
Can anyone tell me the reason behind seeker missile design?
So basically we have a spell that:
- Deals little damage
- AoE
- Cuts down armor
However!, it can be massed (like everything in SC2) and has absolutely no counter micro possible.
Maru did play way better than Dark in these two last games, but I can't find any possible reason for this design to be in the game. yeah like parasitic bomb vs air units!! wait I'm thinking of a word that starts with s and ends in plitting that is good against both, weird You're kidding right? Have you seen Dark (the best Zerg in the world) trying to split vs that many seeker missiles? It's inhuman to do it effectivly. What I'm trying to say is: Seeker Missile has 0 counter play at the moment. That's the single reason that mass raven is being abused and I'm saying you are wrong, there is counter play, he literally smashed ravens on Abyssal Reef with ling bane hydra ultra viper but whatever its not worth debating with you
No point in arguing with whiners drowning in salt. Give them time to vent and cool off at least.
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The only thing that can stop Maru is Blizzard buffing terran in TvP.
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On March 24 2018 15:38 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 15:38 yangluphil wrote:On March 24 2018 15:36 Wildmoon wrote:On March 24 2018 15:35 yangluphil wrote:
As much as I hate AAM. I think nerfing banshee's speed by a little bit, buffing viking HP without touching ravens can be a good adjustment. Lul the moment you get to see someone use them effectively. I loved banshee's speed buff initially, which in itself is a good attempt to make units viable. What's wrong is the synergy between strong mid-game harass and unbeatable late game units that are AAM ravens and ghosts. It's not unbeatable.
It's unbeatable, when one of the conditions is met:
1) Zerg's bank dropped below 1k
2) Terran gets a bank
Both of which gives ravens and ghosts a buffer to get energy and room for error. And boy you need to make a lot of errors as a terran to lose after that stage.
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I like how Dark being the best zerg in the world is an argument being used when Maru is also the best Terran.
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On March 24 2018 15:38 JabuSeika wrote:
Dark played pretty bad at times, throwing tons of expensive units away.
Let's hope Maru makes it a final win.
That last game did seem quite uninspired from Dark.
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On March 24 2018 15:40 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 15:40 starkiller123 wrote:On March 24 2018 15:38 HyDrA_solic wrote:On March 24 2018 15:36 starkiller123 wrote:On March 24 2018 15:33 HyDrA_solic wrote:
Can anyone tell me the reason behind seeker missile design?
So basically we have a spell that:
- Deals little damage
- AoE
- Cuts down armor
However!, it can be massed (like everything in SC2) and has absolutely no counter micro possible.
Maru did play way better than Dark in these two last games, but I can't find any possible reason for this design to be in the game. yeah like parasitic bomb vs air units!! wait I'm thinking of a word that starts with s and ends in plitting that is good against both, weird You're kidding right? Have you seen Dark (the best Zerg in the world) trying to split vs that many seeker missiles? It's inhuman to do it effectivly. What I'm trying to say is: Seeker Missile has 0 counter play at the moment. That's the single reason that mass raven is being abused and I'm saying you are wrong, there is counter play, he literally smashed ravens on Abyssal Reef with ling bane hydra ultra viper but whatever its not worth debating with you No point in arguing with whiners drowning in salt. Give them time to vent and cool off at least.
yeah pretty much, I'm super looking forward to this finals, should be a sick one. I think i favor Maru in it but I'm a big fan of both players so whoever wins I'm happy
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On March 24 2018 15:40 pvsnp wrote:
Maru has gotten super good at the lategame, doubly impressive from a guy that struggled in the turtle-mech era of 2015
Yet he still made GSL ro4 during the turtle-mech era. Just like he did in the blink era. Terran can be the strongest or weakest race and he ends up the same.
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On March 24 2018 15:42 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 15:38 JabuSeika wrote:
Dark played pretty bad at times, throwing tons of expensive units away.
Let's hope Maru makes it a final win. That last game did seem quite uninspired from Dark.
Bad Roach lings timing is 100% Dark
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On March 24 2018 15:42 Ansibled wrote:
I like how Dark being the best zerg in the world is an argument being used when Maru is also the best Terran.
Maru - "Rogue is better than Dark"
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On March 24 2018 15:41 yangluphil wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 15:38 Wildmoon wrote:On March 24 2018 15:38 yangluphil wrote:On March 24 2018 15:36 Wildmoon wrote:On March 24 2018 15:35 yangluphil wrote:
As much as I hate AAM. I think nerfing banshee's speed by a little bit, buffing viking HP without touching ravens can be a good adjustment. Lul the moment you get to see someone use them effectively. I loved banshee's speed buff initially, which in itself is a good attempt to make units viable. What's wrong is the synergy between strong mid-game harass and unbeatable late game units that are AAM ravens and ghosts. It's not unbeatable. It's unbeatable, when one of the conditions is met: 1) Zerg's bank dropped below 1k 2) Terran gets a bank Both of which gives ravens and hosts a buffer to get energy and room for error. And boy you need to make a lot of errors as a terran to lose after that stage.
It's not. The line of argument that you need terran to make a lot of error to beat it does not work. Being able to make errors is what keep things balanced in the first place. The game is balanced around humans. If terran is not dominating the game then the game is balanced.
You can argue about design problem all you want but the MU is not showing the sign of imbalance at this point with the available evidence.
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On March 24 2018 15:42 Ansibled wrote:
I like how Dark being the best zerg in the world is an argument being used when Maru is also the best Terran.
Maru specifically credited Rogue for preparing him so well, and added that Rogue > Dark
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Was worth styaing up till 7AM for anyway 
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On March 24 2018 15:42 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 15:38 JabuSeika wrote:
Dark played pretty bad at times, throwing tons of expensive units away.
Let's hope Maru makes it a final win. That last game did seem quite uninspired from Dark.
Dark might have gotten a bit tilty when he saw the sneaky expansion. He already looked like all the blood had drained out of his face going into the game. That said, claiming that Dark played "pretty bad" at any point seems like quite a stretch. At worst, he played imperfectly under pressure.
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On March 24 2018 15:44 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 15:42 Ansibled wrote:
I like how Dark being the best zerg in the world is an argument being used when Maru is also the best Terran. Maru specifically credited Rogue for preparing him so well, and added that Rogue > Dark
Rogue helped to kick two fellow Zergs out of GSL finals, what a traitor.
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