EPT[GSL 2018] Season 1 - Semi Finals Day 2 - Page 23
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DieuCure
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
Also an argument can be made that on that particular map keeping the terran to 4 bases should be a priority. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 24 2018 15:47 DieuCure wrote: Living with Cure must help strongly It must be great motivation. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On March 24 2018 15:41 yangluphil wrote: It's unbeatable, when one of the conditions is met: 1) Zerg's bank dropped below 1k 2) Terran gets a bank Both of which gives ravens and ghosts a buffer to get energy and room for error. And boy you need to make a lot of errors as a terran to lose after that stage. So you're saying the player with the bigger bank wins? Isn't that how it's supposed to be? | ||
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CCa1ss1e
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Waxangel
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
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A cautionary tale | ||
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
On March 24 2018 15:46 neutralrobot wrote: Dark might have gotten a bit tilty when he saw the sneaky expansion. He already looked like all the blood had drained out of his face going into the game. That said, claiming that Dark played "pretty bad" at any point seems like quite a stretch. At worst, he played imperfectly under pressure. Ah, I did not mean Dark played badly, it is more that I'm used to be amazed by Dark and his ability to solve Starcraft composition and strategies. Much of the last game felt like him going through the motions a bit, more so than other games I've seen him play. | ||
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pvsnp
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"This is why we practice. To avoid this fate." | ||
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yangluphil
318 Posts
You guys think only Maru can do this. Wait for season 2. Maru specifically waited for all terrans to drop out from GSL, IEM before pulling this build for the first time. That's pretty smart and deserves credit. But "If ravens is so op why are terrans suffering?" does not hold ground because of it. Again, nothing against Terran and they should be buffed in other aspect. Only against the late game unit comp that became easier to transition into because of banshees, and stronger than ever before because of AAM. One of those things is probably ok to experiment with but not both. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On March 24 2018 15:53 pvsnp wrote: "This is why we practice. To avoid this fate." Rofl, what can I say ?  | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On March 24 2018 15:53 yangluphil wrote: I agree with Maru. Rogue > Dark. Still, Rogue specifically said at IEM after beating Maru that ZvT late game is too hard for him to win at the moment. Look up his interview. You guys think only Maru can do this. Wait for season 2. Maru specifically waited for all terrans to drop out from GSL, IEM before pulling this build for the first time. That's pretty smart and deserves credit. But "If ravens is so op why are terrans suffering?" does not hold ground because of it. Again, nothing against Terran and they should be buffed in other aspect. Only against the late game unit comp that became easier to transition into because of banshees, and stronger than ever before because of AAM. One of those things is probably ok to experiment with but not both. Let's wait until the evidence comes in to back up the claim then? | ||
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engesser1
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On March 24 2018 15:54 Seeker wrote: I am so saddened right now... My heart is absolutely crushed... soO loses to Stats, Dark loses to Maru twice... This is horrible... I am so fucking angry right now. You can ban yourself, try it it's helpful. | ||
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yangluphil
318 Posts
On March 24 2018 15:48 Charoisaur wrote: So you're saying the player with the bigger bank wins? Isn't that how it's supposed to be? No, read again. I'm saying to contain Terran and starve them out of resources is extremely difficult in the sense that you need a massive bank AND terran cannot have any bank. Pretty much you need to almost already win the game going into the late game to deny those two conditions. | ||
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yangluphil
318 Posts
On March 24 2018 15:58 Wildmoon wrote: Let's wait until the evidence comes in to back up the claim then? What evidence? To counter the argument that "If ravens is so op why are terrans suffering?", I only need this evidence: "Maru specifically waited for all terrans to drop out from GSL, IEM before pulling this build for the first time." which is a fact. What you quote there would be just icing on the cake. Leave it out and the argument still stands. But I'm happy to revisit it comes S2, so there's that. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On March 24 2018 16:03 yangluphil wrote: What evidence? To counter the argument that "If ravens is so op why are terrans suffering?", I only need this evidence: "Maru specifically waited for all terrans to drop out from GSL, IEM before pulling this build for the first time." which is a fact. What you quote would be just icing on the case. But feel free quote me comes S2. The evidence is when the MU is dominated by terran in late game all across the board. That's the time to nerf it. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On March 24 2018 16:03 yangluphil wrote: What evidence? To counter the argument that "If ravens is so op why are terrans suffering?", I only need this evidence: "Maru specifically waited for all terrans to drop out from GSL, IEM before pulling this build for the first time." which is a fact. What you quote there would be just icing on the cake. Leave it out and the argument still stands. But I'm happy to revisit it comes S2, so there's that. Except you have no way of knowing why Maru uses specific strategies at specific times. For all you know he didn't even come up with the strategy until all the other Terrans dropped out. Claiming Maru did something for a specific reason is bullshit unless you can read minds. | ||
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