EPT[GSL 2018] Season 1 - Semi Finals Day 2 - Page 29
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hiroshOne
Poland425 Posts
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yangluphil
318 Posts
What's different now is how easy it is to get to mass ravens. Don't get me wrong, there should be a strategy for terrans to consistently get to late game assuming they don't make mistakes. Otherwise, what's the point of having the strong late game units? However, it feels that with speed buff, banshees in the mid-game are way too good. Hydras on creep can't even properly defend them. They are safer, deals more damage and requires less multitasking than bio drops. Did I mention that they seamlessly transition to mass ravens? To me, mass banshees should be a harass strategy that can force opponents to reposition so that it can buy time for ravens. But it should not make Terrans have the upper hand in mid-game and should be a bit riskier than as is. That's just straight from game design's POV and it has nothing to do with balance (I do realize pre-buff banshees were just gimmicks so I don't mean we should go back). I'd be perfectly fine to have an adjustment that buffs terrans overall if it improves the state of the game. | ||
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On March 27 2018 16:20 fronkschnonk wrote: Funny how everyone forgets that the matches of Maru vs Dark were very close. It's not that Maru dominated Dark to the ground. Very long doesn't mean very close ;o | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Are you really trying to say that the series weren't close? | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On March 27 2018 23:26 Ansibled wrote: Are you really trying to say that the series weren't close? A couple games were close...others especially the last were utterly one sided | ||
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nath
United States1788 Posts
I haven't watched all TvZ's recently but I don't see other Terran having the same late-game success. Maybe give the kid some credit? | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On March 29 2018 09:17 nath wrote: It seems ... weird to contend that Maru's success says something is wrong with late game Terran. I haven't watched all TvZ's recently but I don't see other Terran having the same late-game success. Maybe give the kid some credit? It seems weird because you're giving the Zerg whiners too much credit. Maru won --> they whine. Maru plays Terran --> they whine about Terran. Maru used Ravens --> they whine about Ravens. etc If Maru was a Protoss player that used Carriers to win, they'd whine about that too. To be fair, if Dark won there would also be whine from Terran. And no matter who wins in the finals, there will most certainly be a great deal of whine about them. | ||
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yangluphil
318 Posts
On March 29 2018 09:17 nath wrote: It seems ... weird to contend that Maru's success says something is wrong with late game Terran. I haven't watched all TvZ's recently but I don't see other Terran having the same late-game success. Maybe give the kid some credit? Where did you get the impression that criticism is targeted at Maru the player or Terran the race? Maru is my second favorite terran (love all JAGW players) behind TY. I don't like Inno's playstyle at all but I had no problem with him winning so much last year. Rain is my favorite player of all time and I argue against force field and how PVZ is broken for the whole HOTS era. Phoenix adept too was utterly broken last year, and there's nothing wrong pointing that out after herO wins GSL ST. We can't even discuss the game? There are balance whiners on one hand. There are balance whine whiners, who whine everything is balance whine, on the other. | ||
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yangluphil
318 Posts
On March 27 2018 23:26 Ansibled wrote: Are you really trying to say that the series weren't close? G1 and G5, especially G5 was reasonably close. G2 was short and one-sided. G3,G4 and G6 were all one sided albeit long, including the game that Dark won. It was super easy to call the winner just based on whether Terran could stabilize for a while at 8-10 ravens. If Zerg takes a short break in continuous remaxing and throwing swarms at the terran's outskirt base during this stage (e.g., because bank ran out or w/e) then he would lose, and it would not matter if Zerg can regain a 10k bank or higher after this hiatus. Latter half of the games were just going through the motions. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4943 Posts
On March 27 2018 23:39 Cricketer12 wrote: A couple games were close...others especially the last were utterly one sided you mean the one which maru was on 3 CC and Dark allined and failed? the surprise was that dark ddint gg out after the attack | ||
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yangluphil
318 Posts
On March 24 2018 15:58 Wildmoon wrote: Let's wait until the evidence comes in to back up the claim then? Hey TvZ at 60% GSL S2 even with raven nerf and TvP appears playable. Who would have thunk. | ||
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