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yangluphil
Profile Joined July 2015
318 Posts
March 24 2018 06:35 GMT
#401
As much as I hate AAM. I think nerfing banshee's speed by a little bit, buffing viking HP without touching ravens can be a good adjustment.
Neither party will be missed.
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
March 24 2018 06:35 GMT
#402
Impossible task: Name a zerg unit that counters the ghost

User was warned for this post
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 24 2018 06:36 GMT
#403
On March 24 2018 15:35 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 15:32 The_Templar wrote:
On March 24 2018 15:32 DieuCure wrote:
Oke so i call it now, nerf BC, Ravens, Ghost, Marines, Libe, nukes, medivacs, Maru, PF and Mules

Are you crazy? You need to at least nerf SCVs in addition to those units.

Nerf HP by 5 to bring it in line with the other races' workers. Seriously though, why do SCV's have 5 more HP than Drones and Probes? In BW they had 60, which makes no sense at all.

I'm guessing that it's because probes and drones regenerate naturally. And it's probably been discussed to death at this point.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-24 06:37:02
March 24 2018 06:36 GMT
#404
On March 24 2018 15:35 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 15:32 The_Templar wrote:
On March 24 2018 15:32 DieuCure wrote:
Oke so i call it now, nerf BC, Ravens, Ghost, Marines, Libe, nukes, medivacs, Maru, PF and Mules

Are you crazy? You need to at least nerf SCVs in addition to those units.

Nerf HP by 5 to bring it in line with the other races' workers. Seriously though, why do SCV's have 5 more HP than Drones and Probes? In BW they had 60, which makes no sense at all.


Because they don't regen. health? Nerfing SCV health would make TvP way worse of a dumpster fire.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 24 2018 06:36 GMT
#405
JinAir is in all the finals, amazing.
TL+ Member
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
March 24 2018 06:36 GMT
#406
On March 24 2018 15:35 yangluphil wrote:
As much as I hate AAM. I think nerfing banshee's speed by a little bit, buffing viking HP without touching ravens can be a good adjustment.


Lul the moment you get to see someone use them effectively.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 24 2018 06:36 GMT
#407
On March 24 2018 15:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 15:35 Solar424 wrote:
On March 24 2018 15:32 The_Templar wrote:
On March 24 2018 15:32 DieuCure wrote:
Oke so i call it now, nerf BC, Ravens, Ghost, Marines, Libe, nukes, medivacs, Maru, PF and Mules

Are you crazy? You need to at least nerf SCVs in addition to those units.

Nerf HP by 5 to bring it in line with the other races' workers. Seriously though, why do SCV's have 5 more HP than Drones and Probes? In BW they had 60, which makes no sense at all.


Because they don't regen. health?


Mostly because of adepts
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 24 2018 06:36 GMT
#408
On March 24 2018 15:33 HyDrA_solic wrote:
Can anyone tell me the reason behind seeker missile design?

So basically we have a spell that:
- Deals little damage
- AoE
- Cuts down armor

However!, it can be massed (like everything in SC2) and has absolutely no counter micro possible.

Maru did play way better than Dark in these two last games, but I can't find any possible reason for this design to be in the game.

yeah like parasitic bomb vs air units!! wait I'm thinking of a word that starts with s and ends in plitting that is good against both, weird
Hikki_Hibiki1
Profile Joined September 2017
12 Posts
March 24 2018 06:37 GMT
#409
On March 24 2018 15:35 TentativePanda wrote:
Impossible task: Name a zerg unit that counters the ghost


zerglings/banelings counter ghosts pretty well, but comparing one on one units to find counters is kinda pointless.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-24 06:37:42
March 24 2018 06:37 GMT
#410
On March 24 2018 15:35 TentativePanda wrote:
Impossible task: Name a zerg unit that counters the ghost

Impossible task: Get salty whiners to stop whining
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 24 2018 06:37 GMT
#411
I can't believe this is Maru's first GSL finals
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
yangluphil
Profile Joined July 2015
318 Posts
March 24 2018 06:38 GMT
#412
On March 24 2018 15:36 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 15:35 yangluphil wrote:
As much as I hate AAM. I think nerfing banshee's speed by a little bit, buffing viking HP without touching ravens can be a good adjustment.


Lul the moment you get to see someone use them effectively.


I loved banshee's speed buff initially, which in itself is a good attempt to make units viable. What's wrong is the synergy between strong mid-game harass and unbeatable late game units that are AAM ravens and ghosts.
Neither party will be missed.
HyDrA_solic
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Portugal491 Posts
March 24 2018 06:38 GMT
#413
On March 24 2018 15:36 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 15:33 HyDrA_solic wrote:
Can anyone tell me the reason behind seeker missile design?

So basically we have a spell that:
- Deals little damage
- AoE
- Cuts down armor

However!, it can be massed (like everything in SC2) and has absolutely no counter micro possible.

Maru did play way better than Dark in these two last games, but I can't find any possible reason for this design to be in the game.

yeah like parasitic bomb vs air units!! wait I'm thinking of a word that starts with s and ends in plitting that is good against both, weird


You're kidding right?
Have you seen Dark (the best Zerg in the world) trying to split vs that many seeker missiles?
It's inhuman to do it effectivly.

What I'm trying to say is: Seeker Missile has 0 counter play at the moment. That's the single reason that mass raven is being abused
It's all about the reflections of freedom. Even though he hoped for a better world, with all his strenght, all his will, the most he could do was to make her smile.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10082 Posts
March 24 2018 06:38 GMT
#414
On March 24 2018 15:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I can't believe this is Maru's first GSL finals

we need more nerfs to Terran to kep seeing him in finals
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 24 2018 06:38 GMT
#415
On March 24 2018 15:37 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 15:35 TentativePanda wrote:
Impossible task: Name a zerg unit that counters the ghost

Impossible task: Get salty whiners to stop whining

well of course, the best terran beating probably the best zerg in a close series must mean that terran is op
JabuSeika
Profile Joined February 2014
United States607 Posts
March 24 2018 06:38 GMT
#416
Dark played pretty bad at times, throwing tons of expensive units away.

Let's hope Maru makes it a final win.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
March 24 2018 06:38 GMT
#417
On March 24 2018 15:38 yangluphil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 15:36 Wildmoon wrote:
On March 24 2018 15:35 yangluphil wrote:
As much as I hate AAM. I think nerfing banshee's speed by a little bit, buffing viking HP without touching ravens can be a good adjustment.


Lul the moment you get to see someone use them effectively.


I loved banshee's speed buff initially, which in itself is a good attempt to make units viable. What's wrong is the synergy between strong mid-game harass and unbeatable late game units that are AAM ravens and ghosts.


It's not unbeatable.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 24 2018 06:39 GMT
#418
SC2 is too easy for JinAir right now
TL+ Member
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
March 24 2018 06:39 GMT
#419
WESG not premier confirmed by GSL.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 24 2018 06:39 GMT
#420
Ghosts sniping things is actually the best sound in the game.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
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