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[SSL 2017] Season 2 Postseason - Playoff Round 1 - Page 7

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10bulgares
Profile Joined September 2013
352 Posts
September 04 2017 11:46 GMT
#121
On September 04 2017 20:45 Musicus wrote:
No idea why Dear didn't build more voidrays and went for disruptors to clean up locusts instead.

Anyway, gg wp Dark!

Against the mobility of the swarmhosts, void rays are too slow? Phoenix not effective. There's only the Oracle once more.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 04 2017 11:47 GMT
#122
On September 04 2017 20:46 10bulgares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2017 20:45 Musicus wrote:
No idea why Dear didn't build more voidrays and went for disruptors to clean up locusts instead.

Anyway, gg wp Dark!

Against the mobility of the swarmhosts, void rays are too slow? Phoenix not effective. There's only the Oracle once more.

Archon/overcharge deals with locusts just fine
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-04 11:48:22
September 04 2017 11:48 GMT
#123
They should just redo Protoss to a race of Msc Adept and Oracle
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 04 2017 11:48 GMT
#124
Dark is loving being in the semis of both starleagues with not a single zerg to play.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
September 04 2017 11:56 GMT
#125
Poor Classic, I'm sure he's already tilted.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-04 12:17:38
September 04 2017 12:16 GMT
#126
Darkuuuuuu
By the way I'm 2nd place in liquibets, so I have some bragging to do
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zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
September 04 2017 13:28 GMT
#127
ok so it looks all like an dark stats double final would be pretty hype
TY my boy gogo
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 04 2017 16:10 GMT
#128
I don't think a Stats vs Dark final in both leagues will happen tbh. Dark needs 100% of his time to practice ZvT if he wants to beat Inno.

I'd say there's a 50% chance of Stats being in both finals, and maybe 30% chance of Dark being in both. That's 15% overall
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-04 17:19:52
September 04 2017 17:19 GMT
#129
I would see stats in both finals at 80% or more and dark at 40%
TY my boy gogo
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 04 2017 18:31 GMT
#130
On September 05 2017 02:19 zakadar wrote:
I would see stats in both finals at 80% or more and dark at 40%


I would agree that Stats has a very high chance to be in at least one starleague final.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
September 04 2017 18:44 GMT
#131
On September 05 2017 01:10 Fango wrote:
I don't think a Stats vs Dark final in both leagues will happen tbh. Dark needs 100% of his time to practice ZvT if he wants to beat Inno.

I'd say there's a 50% chance of Stats being in both finals, and maybe 30% chance of Dark being in both. That's 15% overall

Given that he's already in the SSL finals and the favorite in the GSL semis I'd say 50% is a bit low.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-04 19:38:13
September 04 2017 19:37 GMT
#132
Stats is guaranteed SSL finals and favored to make GSL finals (albeit not hugely). Dark is favored against Classic and dead even with Inno. At a guess, Inno vs Stats and Dark vs Stats for GSL and SSL.

Though I would prefer to see Inno vs sOs, personally, so there isn't overlap. Stats will probably win one of the two, but likely not both.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 04 2017 20:40 GMT
#133
DEAR BTFO
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 04 2017 21:26 GMT
#134
Stats only has to beat sOs and then he is in both finals, that's pretty incredible. Looking at his results the past 12 months one has to start thinking about if it's maybe the best run we ever had considering all factors.


Dark vs Stats in both finals could definitely happen though it's obviously not extremely likely. But it's a decent chance tbh.
If i had to guess i would say it's Inno vs Stats in GSL and Dark vs Stats in SSL.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 04 2017 21:50 GMT
#135
On September 05 2017 03:44 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2017 01:10 Fango wrote:
I don't think a Stats vs Dark final in both leagues will happen tbh. Dark needs 100% of his time to practice ZvT if he wants to beat Inno.

I'd say there's a 50% chance of Stats being in both finals, and maybe 30% chance of Dark being in both. That's 15% overall

Given that he's already in the SSL finals and the favorite in the GSL semis I'd say 50% is a bit low.


Nah, I'd put Stats' chance at 50%. All depends on if sOs shows up or not, he's one of the best PvPers of all time when he's in good form. Especially in a bo7

As for Dark, I'd give him like a 40% to beat Inno, and maybe 60% to beat Classic
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
September 04 2017 21:59 GMT
#136
Really? Dark has a superb chance to make it both finals.

He just took down Dear, who proves more problematic for him than Classic ever has. He beat INnoVation 3-0 a few weeks ago and just stomped TY 3-0. Dark is definitely making it to both finals, and probably winning both.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-04 22:46:40
September 04 2017 22:20 GMT
#137
On September 05 2017 06:59 Myrddrael wrote:
Really? Dark has a superb chance to make it both finals.

He just took down Dear, who proves more problematic for him than Classic ever has. He beat INnoVation 3-0 a few weeks ago and just stomped TY 3-0. Dark is definitely making it to both finals, and probably winning both.

This is one of those comments that simply must be reposted after Dark gets knocked out in both semis, for the dramatic irony.
Tempting fate. Counting your chickens. Pride goeth before a fall. Karma. There's a million names for the same flaw of arrogance.

Seriously though, while Dark is in great form, claiming that players like Classic and INnoVation will just roll over and die is waaaaay too bold.

Dark has a decent chance. Maybe he will make both finals, maybe he will win both Starleagues. Maybe not.
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Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-04 23:00:15
September 04 2017 23:00 GMT
#138
On September 05 2017 07:20 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2017 06:59 Myrddrael wrote:
Really? Dark has a superb chance to make it both finals.

He just took down Dear, who proves more problematic for him than Classic ever has. He beat INnoVation 3-0 a few weeks ago and just stomped TY 3-0. Dark is definitely making it to both finals, and probably winning both.

This is one of those comments that simply must be reposted after Dark gets knocked out in both semis, for the dramatic irony.
Tempting fate. Counting your chickens. Pride goeth before a fall. Karma. There's a million names for the same flaw of arrogance.

Seriously though, while Dark is in great form, claiming that players like Classic and INnoVation will just roll over and die is waaaaay too bold.

Dark has a decent chance. Maybe he will make both finals, maybe he will win both Starleagues. Maybe not.


I will quote it myself in this very thread when he does.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 00:16:50
September 05 2017 00:15 GMT
#139
On September 05 2017 06:59 Myrddrael wrote:
Really? Dark has a superb chance to make it both finals.

He just took down Dear, who proves more problematic for him than Classic ever has. He beat INnoVation 3-0 a few weeks ago and just stomped TY 3-0. Dark is definitely making it to both finals, and probably winning both.


No one has a superb chance to beat Inno in a bo7. Let alone beat Inno and Classic in bo7s within 2 days of eachother. Even if he had a 70% to beat Inno (which he doesn't), and 70% to beat Classic, that's less than 50% to beat both.

Can it be done? Yes. Is it likely? Nope. Is Dark the only zerg on a level that could do it? Probably. But still, there's a reason that we almost never get dual finalists
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 00:45:44
September 05 2017 00:40 GMT
#140
On September 05 2017 09:15 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2017 06:59 Myrddrael wrote:
Really? Dark has a superb chance to make it both finals.

He just took down Dear, who proves more problematic for him than Classic ever has. He beat INnoVation 3-0 a few weeks ago and just stomped TY 3-0. Dark is definitely making it to both finals, and probably winning both.


No one has a superb chance to beat Inno in a bo7. Let alone beat Inno and Classic in bo7s within 2 days of eachother. Even if he had a 70% to beat Inno (which he doesn't), and 70% to beat Classic, that's less than 50% to beat both.

Can it be done? Yes. Is it likely? Nope. Is Dark the only zerg on a level that could do it? Probably. But still, there's a reason that we almost never get dual finalists

This.

As strong as Dark is--and he's very strong indeed, the best Zerg around right now--both Inno and Classic are old teammates of his who are very familiar with his playstyle, as well as being top-tier players in their own right. Artosis was just calling Inno the best player in the world on the same day Dark beat TY.

Both of them have just been treated to a great example of Dark's ZvT and ZvP against TY and Dear, respectively, two more top-tier players, so their insight into Dark's playstyle and form couldn't be better. Both of them have at least a week to prepare for one match, while Dark must prepare for two in a handful of days. Both of them are Dark's usual practice partners for ZvP and ZvT, and both of them have more on the line than Dark does.

Going into the GSL and SSL semifinals, both INnoVation and Classic have just about every advantage possible over Dark. The one thing Dark has going for him is also his biggest weakness--he's amply demonstrated his own form on the big stage while neither of them have played a top Zerg in weeks.

Dark is a great player, and he has a reasonable chance to win one series, or even both series. It is completely possible. It is also completely possible that Inno and Classic beat the ever-loving shit out of him, or that they just barely manage to defeat Dark in grueling 7-game series. Or anything in between.

Regardless, we'll find out soon enough.
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