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WCS Challenger 2017 #3 - Valencia - NA and EU - Page 7

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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 18:42:33
June 03 2017 18:40 GMT
#121
On June 04 2017 03:28 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:26 Weavel wrote:
Is this the new grand zerg era? Maybe it will be as glorious as infestor broodlord or swarmhost era!

It will end when Ascension and Odyssey are retired from the map pool

Are not both of these just dream maps for any tank all-in, looking at what Gumiho did in his group.

EDIT: What is that APM bug TLO has?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2651 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 18:44:40
June 03 2017 18:44 GMT
#122
On June 04 2017 03:40 lolfail9001 wrote:
EDIT: What is that APM bug TLO has?



My bet is that he is using the rapid fire trick on something (most likely in the corrosive biles) wich makes the APM spike like crazy.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 03 2017 18:44 GMT
#123
On June 04 2017 03:40 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:28 Ej_ wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:26 Weavel wrote:
Is this the new grand zerg era? Maybe it will be as glorious as infestor broodlord or swarmhost era!

It will end when Ascension and Odyssey are retired from the map pool

Are not both of these just dream maps for any tank all-in, looking at what Gumiho did in his group.

EDIT: What is that APM bug TLO has?

They are very good ZvP maps.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15988 Posts
June 03 2017 18:44 GMT
#124
On June 04 2017 03:28 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:26 Weavel wrote:
Is this the new grand zerg era? Maybe it will be as glorious as infestor broodlord or swarmhost era!

It will end when Ascension and Odyssey are retired from the map pool

Odyssey? I don't think that map is zerg favoured.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 03 2017 18:46 GMT
#125
On June 04 2017 03:44 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:40 lolfail9001 wrote:
EDIT: What is that APM bug TLO has?



My bet is that he is using the rapid fire trick on something (most likely in the corrosive biles) wich makes the APM spike like crazy.

Yeah, that explains why he has 1500 apm spikes.

It does not explain why he can average over 500 apm.

I believe on russian stream they mentioned something related, but it had mention of alt-c and i have no clue what that means.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 03 2017 18:46 GMT
#126
On June 04 2017 03:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:44 Lexender wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:40 lolfail9001 wrote:
EDIT: What is that APM bug TLO has?



My bet is that he is using the rapid fire trick on something (most likely in the corrosive biles) wich makes the APM spike like crazy.

Yeah, that explains why he has 1500 apm spikes.

It does not explain why he can average over 500 apm.

I believe on russian stream they mentioned something related, but it had mention of alt-c and i have no clue what that means.

It's a bug with his account, iirc TLO doesn't know why that happens.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15988 Posts
June 03 2017 18:48 GMT
#127
On June 04 2017 03:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:44 Lexender wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:40 lolfail9001 wrote:
EDIT: What is that APM bug TLO has?



My bet is that he is using the rapid fire trick on something (most likely in the corrosive biles) wich makes the APM spike like crazy.

Yeah, that explains why he has 1500 apm spikes.

It does not explain why he can average over 500 apm.

I believe on russian stream they mentioned something related, but it had mention of alt-c and i have no clue what that means.

Maybe he is just that fast.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
June 03 2017 18:49 GMT
#128
it's the "steal from group" action which causes the apm spikes (where you assign a unit to a new group and simultaneously it gets deleted from other control groups). afaik it causes 1 (or 2) actions for each selected unit to which you do it. So you do 1 Action and it ends up being 20 "APM" sometimes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24226 Posts
June 03 2017 18:51 GMT
#129
so many Zergs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15988 Posts
June 03 2017 18:54 GMT
#130
On June 04 2017 03:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
so many Zergs

Proves that we can't say if the game is really balanced because sometimes one race has just much better players than the other races.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
June 03 2017 18:55 GMT
#131
On June 04 2017 03:48 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:44 Lexender wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:40 lolfail9001 wrote:
EDIT: What is that APM bug TLO has?



My bet is that he is using the rapid fire trick on something (most likely in the corrosive biles) wich makes the APM spike like crazy.

Yeah, that explains why he has 1500 apm spikes.

It does not explain why he can average over 500 apm.

I believe on russian stream they mentioned something related, but it had mention of alt-c and i have no clue what that means.

Maybe he is just that fast.

It's creativity-powered APM
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xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 19:01:21
June 03 2017 18:56 GMT
#132
nice sh play lol

TLO is awesome at engagements

..GGs
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 03 2017 19:01 GMT
#133
So the qualifyng matches are bo5, but the money games further in the bracket are bo3s...?

That's... odd.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
June 03 2017 19:04 GMT
#134
On June 04 2017 03:49 TBO wrote:
it's the "steal from group" action which causes the apm spikes (where you assign a unit to a new group and simultaneously it gets deleted from other control groups). afaik it causes 1 (or 2) actions for each selected unit to which you do it. So you do 1 Action and it ends up being 20 "APM" sometimes.

That sounds strange, my APM didn't rise after I started using it iirc
Avicularia
Profile Joined February 2012
540 Posts
June 03 2017 19:05 GMT
#135
On June 04 2017 03:54 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
so many Zergs

Proves that we can't say if the game is really balanced because sometimes one race has just much better players than the other races.


Tbh it proves nothing because in Europe zergs are just the biggest names. It's not like that in other regions.
Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
June 03 2017 19:05 GMT
#136
On June 04 2017 04:04 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:49 TBO wrote:
it's the "steal from group" action which causes the apm spikes (where you assign a unit to a new group and simultaneously it gets deleted from other control groups). afaik it causes 1 (or 2) actions for each selected unit to which you do it. So you do 1 Action and it ends up being 20 "APM" sometimes.

That sounds strange, my APM didn't rise after I started using it iirc


Snute's doesn't either I wonder if it's because I use Q and W for it and maybe hold it down a bit longer than normal people so I actually spam create or something.
Team Liquidalea iacta est
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15988 Posts
June 03 2017 19:29 GMT
#137
On June 04 2017 04:05 Avicularia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:54 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
so many Zergs

Proves that we can't say if the game is really balanced because sometimes one race has just much better players than the other races.


Tbh it proves nothing because in Europe zergs are just the biggest names. It's not like that in other regions.

That's my point in EU zerg looks OP because they have the strongest players.
It's just as possible that in KR the protoss players are much better than the other ones but we can't know because the game is balanced around all races performing equally well there.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
June 03 2017 19:37 GMT
#138
On June 04 2017 04:05 Avicularia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:54 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
so many Zergs

Proves that we can't say if the game is really balanced because sometimes one race has just much better players than the other races.


Tbh it proves nothing because in Europe zergs are just the biggest names. It's not like that in other regions.

yep because showtime/heromarine/uthermal/ptitdrogo/harstem are bad players who never stood a chance against these zergs. Also NA region was won by zerg too Scarlett with JonSnow taking 3rd. China top 2 were zerg and they 3-0ed both TIME/MacSeD. Also taiwan a region dominated by Has for over a year had top 3 all zerg being Sen/Winter/Rex. So you can't say its only EU or that it proves nothing or that is not like this in other regions because it is.
Icebound Esports
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
June 03 2017 19:40 GMT
#139
On June 04 2017 04:37 SNSeigifried wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 04:05 Avicularia wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:54 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
so many Zergs

Proves that we can't say if the game is really balanced because sometimes one race has just much better players than the other races.


Tbh it proves nothing because in Europe zergs are just the biggest names. It's not like that in other regions.

yep because showtime/heromarine/uthermal/ptitdrogo/harstem are bad players who never stood a chance against these zergs. Also NA region was won by zerg too Scarlett with JonSnow taking 3rd. China top 2 were zerg and they 3-0ed both TIME/MacSeD. Also taiwan a region dominated by Has for over a year had top 3 all zerg being Sen/Winter/Rex. So you can't say its only EU or that it proves nothing or that is not like this in other regions because it is.

What about the KR leagues? The ones that everyone wants me to look at
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 03 2017 19:43 GMT
#140
On June 04 2017 04:40 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 04:37 SNSeigifried wrote:
On June 04 2017 04:05 Avicularia wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:54 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
so many Zergs

Proves that we can't say if the game is really balanced because sometimes one race has just much better players than the other races.


Tbh it proves nothing because in Europe zergs are just the biggest names. It's not like that in other regions.

yep because showtime/heromarine/uthermal/ptitdrogo/harstem are bad players who never stood a chance against these zergs. Also NA region was won by zerg too Scarlett with JonSnow taking 3rd. China top 2 were zerg and they 3-0ed both TIME/MacSeD. Also taiwan a region dominated by Has for over a year had top 3 all zerg being Sen/Winter/Rex. So you can't say its only EU or that it proves nothing or that is not like this in other regions because it is.

What about the KR leagues? The ones that everyone wants me to look at

Different map pools.
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