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MyiPtitDrogo
Profile Joined June 2017
28 Posts
June 03 2017 19:44 GMT
#141
Well the elephant of the room is the map pool difference, I don't think Zerg would be broken on a Bo7 purely played on abyssal
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
June 03 2017 19:49 GMT
#142
On June 04 2017 04:43 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 04:40 Nerchio wrote:
On June 04 2017 04:37 SNSeigifried wrote:
On June 04 2017 04:05 Avicularia wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:54 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
so many Zergs

Proves that we can't say if the game is really balanced because sometimes one race has just much better players than the other races.


Tbh it proves nothing because in Europe zergs are just the biggest names. It's not like that in other regions.

yep because showtime/heromarine/uthermal/ptitdrogo/harstem are bad players who never stood a chance against these zergs. Also NA region was won by zerg too Scarlett with JonSnow taking 3rd. China top 2 were zerg and they 3-0ed both TIME/MacSeD. Also taiwan a region dominated by Has for over a year had top 3 all zerg being Sen/Winter/Rex. So you can't say its only EU or that it proves nothing or that is not like this in other regions because it is.

What about the KR leagues? The ones that everyone wants me to look at

Different map pools.

Zerg is the best performing foreigner race for years, it's naive blaming that solely on maps.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
June 03 2017 20:10 GMT
#143
On June 04 2017 04:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 04:43 Boggyb wrote:
On June 04 2017 04:40 Nerchio wrote:
On June 04 2017 04:37 SNSeigifried wrote:
On June 04 2017 04:05 Avicularia wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:54 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
so many Zergs

Proves that we can't say if the game is really balanced because sometimes one race has just much better players than the other races.


Tbh it proves nothing because in Europe zergs are just the biggest names. It's not like that in other regions.

yep because showtime/heromarine/uthermal/ptitdrogo/harstem are bad players who never stood a chance against these zergs. Also NA region was won by zerg too Scarlett with JonSnow taking 3rd. China top 2 were zerg and they 3-0ed both TIME/MacSeD. Also taiwan a region dominated by Has for over a year had top 3 all zerg being Sen/Winter/Rex. So you can't say its only EU or that it proves nothing or that is not like this in other regions because it is.

What about the KR leagues? The ones that everyone wants me to look at

Different map pools.

Zerg is the best performing foreigner race for years, it's naive blaming that solely on maps.


I don't think anyone is blaming it solely on maps but there's no denying that the current map pool heavily favours Zerg.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 03 2017 20:10 GMT
#144
Zerg is so OP that Serral got a 3-0 victory after 2 games.
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1198 Posts
June 03 2017 20:13 GMT
#145
Serral is just on another level right now. Great play from him. Jönköping is going to be interesting.
starcraft2.fi
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 03 2017 20:13 GMT
#146
[image loading]

Serral perkele
why even
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9222 Posts
June 03 2017 20:15 GMT
#147
Serral almost unstoppable. He will win Valencia I can feel it.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 03 2017 20:27 GMT
#148
On June 04 2017 05:15 Weavel wrote:
Serral almost unstoppable. He will win Valencia I can feel it.

LANs have 100% winrate against him though.
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 03 2017 20:51 GMT
#149
On June 04 2017 04:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 04:43 Boggyb wrote:
On June 04 2017 04:40 Nerchio wrote:
On June 04 2017 04:37 SNSeigifried wrote:
On June 04 2017 04:05 Avicularia wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:54 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
so many Zergs

Proves that we can't say if the game is really balanced because sometimes one race has just much better players than the other races.


Tbh it proves nothing because in Europe zergs are just the biggest names. It's not like that in other regions.

yep because showtime/heromarine/uthermal/ptitdrogo/harstem are bad players who never stood a chance against these zergs. Also NA region was won by zerg too Scarlett with JonSnow taking 3rd. China top 2 were zerg and they 3-0ed both TIME/MacSeD. Also taiwan a region dominated by Has for over a year had top 3 all zerg being Sen/Winter/Rex. So you can't say its only EU or that it proves nothing or that is not like this in other regions because it is.

What about the KR leagues? The ones that everyone wants me to look at

Different map pools.

Zerg is the best performing foreigner race for years, it's naive blaming that solely on maps.


Because zerg is easier at this lvl, you cant deny it
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 20:53:48
June 03 2017 20:52 GMT
#150
On June 04 2017 05:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 05:15 Weavel wrote:
Serral almost unstoppable. He will win Valencia I can feel it.

LANs have 100% winrate against him though.

He's won LANs in Finland!
why even
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-04 03:26:08
June 04 2017 03:25 GMT
#151
On June 04 2017 04:37 SNSeigifried wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 04:05 Avicularia wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:54 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
so many Zergs

Proves that we can't say if the game is really balanced because sometimes one race has just much better players than the other races.


Tbh it proves nothing because in Europe zergs are just the biggest names. It's not like that in other regions.

yep because showtime/heromarine/uthermal/ptitdrogo/harstem are bad players who never stood a chance against these zergs. Also NA region was won by zerg too Scarlett with JonSnow taking 3rd. China top 2 were zerg and they 3-0ed both TIME/MacSeD. Also taiwan a region dominated by Has for over a year had top 3 all zerg being Sen/Winter/Rex. So you can't say its only EU or that it proves nothing or that is not like this in other regions because it is.


Who cares, KR is what matters and all that matters. Otherwise Terran would have had to be buffed into high heaven for years.
Sinistro
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil684 Posts
June 06 2017 18:02 GMT
#152
Hey folks, a small reminder that today the first NA Open Cup takes place. In a wee bit more than 6 hours.

https://play.eslgaming.com/starcraft/global/sc2/major/wcs/challenger-3-2017-open-cup-1-north-america
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 06 2017 19:26 GMT
#153
I want to join the serral hype but he's yet too prove himself in a premier offline event

Also, zerg will always dominate in EU unless maybe showtime wins something.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-06 20:52:30
June 06 2017 20:51 GMT
#154
OP says NA Open #1 starts at 7 pm CDT but the ESL gaming site shows 6 pm? Which one is correct?

EDIT: hmm perhaps start time = check-in start time on the ESL site
TL+ Member
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 07 2017 01:13 GMT
#155
On June 07 2017 04:26 Fango wrote:
I want to join the serral hype but he's yet too prove himself in a premier offline event

Also, zerg will always dominate in EU unless maybe showtime wins something.



Or forGG return !
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 07 2017 01:59 GMT
#156
no avilo? dream is dead
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
June 07 2017 03:00 GMT
#157
cyclone/hellion fell off really hard when zergs realized that they can defend the initial push with a lot of queens and from then the mech player is pretty much boned
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
June 07 2017 23:53 GMT
#158
Check-in bugged out on me, i clicked late sign up...don't know why it wouldn't let me check in
Sup
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33584 Posts
June 08 2017 01:09 GMT
#159
that game was offensive; let's disqualify both players :'(
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 08 2017 01:12 GMT
#160
oh shit qxc is back? i never thought we'd see him again
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
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