• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:41
CEST 20:41
KST 03:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High6Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes186BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
Why Storm Should NOT Be Nerfed – A Core Part of Pr StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time SC4ALL: A North American StarCraft LAN Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments
Tourneys
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Stellar Fest KSL Week 80 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL ro8 Upper Bracket HYPE VIDEO BW General Discussion StarCraft Stellar Forces had bad maps
Tourneys
SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN [ASL20] Ro16 Group D BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Dark Side of South Kore…
Peanutsc
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2262 users

[IEM] Katowice - Championship Sunday - Page 78

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 76 77 78 79 80 81 Next
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28485 Posts
March 05 2017 17:48 GMT
#1541
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps
I Protoss winner, could it be?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 05 2017 17:50 GMT
#1542
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps

I really hope 2GD's arena FPS will take off
Neosteel Enthusiast
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 05 2017 17:51 GMT
#1543
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


LOL they are going to feel so stupid when they find out the finals are already over and they missed the epic TY victory
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28485 Posts
March 05 2017 17:52 GMT
#1544
On March 06 2017 02:50 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps

I really hope 2GD's arena FPS will take off

oh Diabotical, didn't know about that
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 05 2017 17:56 GMT
#1545
On March 06 2017 02:46 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:33 opisska wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:18 opisska wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:12 Elentos wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:11 opisska wrote:
TY I would never predict to win this - sure, he is great but in this competition ...? In any case, the results point to the matches being quite fun, could have been good.

I was finally snowboarding the whole day and regret nothing

Is your infection actually gone? If so, sweet that you managed to actually do what you went there for.


I am now leaning towards he opinion of the doctor I saw in Thursday - who is not my regular physician - that I have two separate issues. One is a mycosis or candidosis of mouth, triggered by the steroids I got for MS, and other one was a streptococal infection in throat. The first one I have for quite some time, it raises my temperature very slightly, but it seems to be otherwise asymptomatic, while the other one was successfully treated by the antibiotics she gave me. Because my throat is now fine and I feel completely healthy - trust me, a whole day of skiing while sick is a very easily noticeable experience. But this all has to be confirmed by objective testing, which I hope to get done first think on Tuesday.

At any case, I took a small risk and it paid off, I didn't get sick and I got a marvelous skiing day. Those are now more precious than ever because I have no way of knowing when the MS hits my motor capabilities, but for now, I can confirm that my legs are perfectly fine, because I have did ride better than ever today.

Back in school we had the opportunity to learn snowboarding or skiing, i think i made the wrong call :/


No problem, learn the other thing now. I learned to ski at around 26 and to snowboard at 31 and knowing both is absolutely awesome. Now I only snowboard, because I am an old person and skiing is too painful for my joints. Having the legs tied together in a fixed position has drawbacks in logistics, but great benefits for not hurting your knees.

I guess you are right. I mean skiing was pretty fun so it's not that bad. But snowboarding seems to be more enjoyable overall?


People ask me that a lot for some reason (which is silly, because I am not very good at either) and my opinion is that if you want to transport yourself between two points that are separated by rideable snow, using ski is a no-brainer, they are just much more efficient. But I enjoy the activity on snowboard much more, it is just really relaxing and it's such a great way of movement. It's really hard to explain, but it just feels so natural to move down a hill on snowboard, it's like this is the way humans were somehow meant to move. Also it's much easier to deal with bad conditions or slopes that are too hard, because there are easy tricks that allow you to navigate virtually any kind of slope on a board (even though without very much fun, but without getting hurt).

An added benefit is, that snowboard is so much easier to take off-piste than ski - usually the most optimal ski for a groomed slope are not very good for deep powder and the whole set of skills is very different, whereas a snowboard is a snowboard. Sadly, it's not a very easy thing to do - surely, you can find a nice small shortcut here and there and it's fun, but for the best off-piste experience, you need actual powder, which is rather rare unless you are willing to chase it accross Europe, and you need to have someone to show you what to do, because once you leave the immediate vicinity of official slopes it gets really dangerous pretty fast and it's very hard to self-teach. I had one such friend and I enjoyed a couple of great powder days two years ago with him but the dickhead moved very far away and thus my freeriding career went to a halt. I would now dare to try some easier things without him, but I don't have any other friend into it and riding off-piste alone is not very wise.


Well personally i am not someone who needs to live on the edge as much as possible so off-piste activities aren't really my biggest priority tbh :D But yeah the movement of snowboardign just looks more enjoyable, as you said " it's like this is the way humans were somehow meant to move". I don't really have the ability to learn it in the near future but i will certainly try it sometimes. With that being said, i like skiing a lot as well, the speed going down a hill is just awesome :D

Great to hear that you could have some fun today after that boring one with group c haha ^^
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 05 2017 17:57 GMT
#1546
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps

Exactly. You can enjoy playing CSGO, but it is not interesting to watch. While SC2 is amazing to watch, even if you don't play it.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
March 05 2017 17:57 GMT
#1547
somebody have a video of the dj?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 05 2017 17:58 GMT
#1548
On March 06 2017 02:50 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps

I really hope 2GD's arena FPS will take off

Oh yeah i hope so as well. They are a bit behind schedule though but so far it looks promising. Especially because 2gd is smart enough to include every feature people these days could want (skins, a good tournament feature, matchmaking, great personality of the things you play (eggbots), etc)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-05 18:02:25
March 05 2017 17:59 GMT
#1549
On March 06 2017 02:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?

I think we had like 50k, but it was on another stream

69.2k

Breaking news CSGO is more popular than StarCraft.

On the bright side the future of esports had a $100k tournament where it got like 10k viewers.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 05 2017 17:59 GMT
#1550
Exactly. You can enjoy playing CSGO, but it is not interesting to watch. While SC2 is amazing to watch, even if you don't play it.

Was literally writing out the exact same post.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Kovzirg
Profile Joined July 2016
126 Posts
March 05 2017 18:00 GMT
#1551
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps


Yes. Quake was the greatest 1on1 game ever made.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 05 2017 18:01 GMT
#1552
Seems wrong to me tbh, csgo is incredibly enjoying to watch even if you understand very little of it.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 05 2017 18:01 GMT
#1553
On March 06 2017 03:00 Kovzirg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps


Yes. Quake was the greatest 1on1 game ever made.

Interesting place to say that.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 05 2017 18:03 GMT
#1554
On March 06 2017 02:59 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
Exactly. You can enjoy playing CSGO, but it is not interesting to watch. While SC2 is amazing to watch, even if you don't play it.

Was literally writing out the exact same post.

It's almost like people can have different opinions
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 05 2017 18:05 GMT
#1555
On March 06 2017 02:46 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?

I think we had like 50k, but it was on another stream

a little over 60k with foreign streams iirc



Which is really good for 2017 SC2 to be honest. Will probably be second best behind blizzcon again.
Zest fanboy.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-05 18:09:58
March 05 2017 18:08 GMT
#1556
On March 06 2017 03:03 munch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:59 pvsnp wrote:
Exactly. You can enjoy playing CSGO, but it is not interesting to watch. While SC2 is amazing to watch, even if you don't play it.

Was literally writing out the exact same post.

It's almost like people can have different opinions

Having opinions is ok but you can also look at the game and see what it does well/badly for spectators in general.
CSGO's round based system alone makes it really easy to understand, every new round (in theory) a new chance to win it. Players get removed when they die till the end of the round which creates a lot of tense 1vs2, 1vs1, etc situations.
Also while the first person pov in general is incredibly bad for spectating, csgo is just slow enough where it doesn't affect the game negatively, it even gives us easy to see skill checks because we see exactly what the players do (i still argue that first person pov is underused in sc2, would make games more hype 100% if used well).

So yeah you don't have to like csgo by any means, but it does so many things well that it's ignorant to say it's a bad spectator experience.


On March 06 2017 03:05 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:46 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?

I think we had like 50k, but it was on another stream

a little over 60k with foreign streams iirc



Which is really good for 2017 SC2 to be honest. Will probably be second best behind blizzcon again.


Especially because neither Stats or TY are big fan favorites i think
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Kovzirg
Profile Joined July 2016
126 Posts
March 05 2017 18:09 GMT
#1557
On March 06 2017 03:01 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 03:00 Kovzirg wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps


Yes. Quake was the greatest 1on1 game ever made.

Interesting place to say that.


It's even weirder because my first game was Unreal Tournament.

I think it's nostalgia though for the most part. While I still enjoy gaming things will never live up to the old days.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12901 Posts
March 05 2017 18:30 GMT
#1558
On March 06 2017 03:00 Kovzirg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps


Yes. Quake was the greatest 1on1 game ever made.

SSBM even better
WriterMaru
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 05 2017 18:42 GMT
#1559
I have a controversial opinion I think.

StarCraft is the best 1v1 game ever made.

'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15981 Posts
March 05 2017 18:42 GMT
#1560
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

yeah I can understand why CS is so popular even though I personally don't enjoy it.
LoL and Dota on the other hand...
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Prev 1 76 77 78 79 80 81 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Online Event
16:00
PSC2L September 2025
CranKy Ducklings167
Liquipedia
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
08:00
Day 2 - Play Off & Finals Stage
ZZZero.O332
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 404
JuggernautJason168
IndyStarCraft 124
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1077
Sea 1037
Larva 409
ZZZero.O 332
Mong 150
Dewaltoss 104
Backho 48
Aegong 39
Dota 2
qojqva3898
Dendi1641
monkeys_forever147
Counter-Strike
fl0m843
Stewie2K412
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor258
Other Games
tarik_tv7964
FrodaN3006
Grubby2610
summit1g2203
B2W.Neo628
KnowMe290
Mew2King90
QueenE53
NeuroSwarm48
MindelVK24
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1817
gamesdonequick678
StarCraft 2
angryscii 26
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Adnapsc2 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4477
• masondota2257
Other Games
• imaqtpie779
• Shiphtur266
• WagamamaTV229
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
15h 19m
Barracks vs Mini
Wardi Open
16h 19m
Monday Night Weeklies
21h 19m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 15h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 15h
Snow vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
Clem vs Reynor
[ Show More ]
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-18
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.