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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28500 Posts
March 05 2017 17:48 GMT
#1541
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps
I Protoss winner, could it be?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 05 2017 17:50 GMT
#1542
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps

I really hope 2GD's arena FPS will take off
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 05 2017 17:51 GMT
#1543
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


LOL they are going to feel so stupid when they find out the finals are already over and they missed the epic TY victory
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28500 Posts
March 05 2017 17:52 GMT
#1544
On March 06 2017 02:50 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps

I really hope 2GD's arena FPS will take off

oh Diabotical, didn't know about that
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 05 2017 17:56 GMT
#1545
On March 06 2017 02:46 opisska wrote:
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On March 06 2017 02:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:33 opisska wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:18 opisska wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:12 Elentos wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:11 opisska wrote:
TY I would never predict to win this - sure, he is great but in this competition ...? In any case, the results point to the matches being quite fun, could have been good.

I was finally snowboarding the whole day and regret nothing

Is your infection actually gone? If so, sweet that you managed to actually do what you went there for.


I am now leaning towards he opinion of the doctor I saw in Thursday - who is not my regular physician - that I have two separate issues. One is a mycosis or candidosis of mouth, triggered by the steroids I got for MS, and other one was a streptococal infection in throat. The first one I have for quite some time, it raises my temperature very slightly, but it seems to be otherwise asymptomatic, while the other one was successfully treated by the antibiotics she gave me. Because my throat is now fine and I feel completely healthy - trust me, a whole day of skiing while sick is a very easily noticeable experience. But this all has to be confirmed by objective testing, which I hope to get done first think on Tuesday.

At any case, I took a small risk and it paid off, I didn't get sick and I got a marvelous skiing day. Those are now more precious than ever because I have no way of knowing when the MS hits my motor capabilities, but for now, I can confirm that my legs are perfectly fine, because I have did ride better than ever today.

Back in school we had the opportunity to learn snowboarding or skiing, i think i made the wrong call :/


No problem, learn the other thing now. I learned to ski at around 26 and to snowboard at 31 and knowing both is absolutely awesome. Now I only snowboard, because I am an old person and skiing is too painful for my joints. Having the legs tied together in a fixed position has drawbacks in logistics, but great benefits for not hurting your knees.

I guess you are right. I mean skiing was pretty fun so it's not that bad. But snowboarding seems to be more enjoyable overall?


People ask me that a lot for some reason (which is silly, because I am not very good at either) and my opinion is that if you want to transport yourself between two points that are separated by rideable snow, using ski is a no-brainer, they are just much more efficient. But I enjoy the activity on snowboard much more, it is just really relaxing and it's such a great way of movement. It's really hard to explain, but it just feels so natural to move down a hill on snowboard, it's like this is the way humans were somehow meant to move. Also it's much easier to deal with bad conditions or slopes that are too hard, because there are easy tricks that allow you to navigate virtually any kind of slope on a board (even though without very much fun, but without getting hurt).

An added benefit is, that snowboard is so much easier to take off-piste than ski - usually the most optimal ski for a groomed slope are not very good for deep powder and the whole set of skills is very different, whereas a snowboard is a snowboard. Sadly, it's not a very easy thing to do - surely, you can find a nice small shortcut here and there and it's fun, but for the best off-piste experience, you need actual powder, which is rather rare unless you are willing to chase it accross Europe, and you need to have someone to show you what to do, because once you leave the immediate vicinity of official slopes it gets really dangerous pretty fast and it's very hard to self-teach. I had one such friend and I enjoyed a couple of great powder days two years ago with him but the dickhead moved very far away and thus my freeriding career went to a halt. I would now dare to try some easier things without him, but I don't have any other friend into it and riding off-piste alone is not very wise.


Well personally i am not someone who needs to live on the edge as much as possible so off-piste activities aren't really my biggest priority tbh :D But yeah the movement of snowboardign just looks more enjoyable, as you said " it's like this is the way humans were somehow meant to move". I don't really have the ability to learn it in the near future but i will certainly try it sometimes. With that being said, i like skiing a lot as well, the speed going down a hill is just awesome :D

Great to hear that you could have some fun today after that boring one with group c haha ^^
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 05 2017 17:57 GMT
#1546
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps

Exactly. You can enjoy playing CSGO, but it is not interesting to watch. While SC2 is amazing to watch, even if you don't play it.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
March 05 2017 17:57 GMT
#1547
somebody have a video of the dj?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 05 2017 17:58 GMT
#1548
On March 06 2017 02:50 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps

I really hope 2GD's arena FPS will take off

Oh yeah i hope so as well. They are a bit behind schedule though but so far it looks promising. Especially because 2gd is smart enough to include every feature people these days could want (skins, a good tournament feature, matchmaking, great personality of the things you play (eggbots), etc)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-05 18:02:25
March 05 2017 17:59 GMT
#1549
On March 06 2017 02:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?

I think we had like 50k, but it was on another stream

69.2k

Breaking news CSGO is more popular than StarCraft.

On the bright side the future of esports had a $100k tournament where it got like 10k viewers.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 05 2017 17:59 GMT
#1550
Exactly. You can enjoy playing CSGO, but it is not interesting to watch. While SC2 is amazing to watch, even if you don't play it.

Was literally writing out the exact same post.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Kovzirg
Profile Joined July 2016
126 Posts
March 05 2017 18:00 GMT
#1551
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps


Yes. Quake was the greatest 1on1 game ever made.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 05 2017 18:01 GMT
#1552
Seems wrong to me tbh, csgo is incredibly enjoying to watch even if you understand very little of it.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 05 2017 18:01 GMT
#1553
On March 06 2017 03:00 Kovzirg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps


Yes. Quake was the greatest 1on1 game ever made.

Interesting place to say that.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 05 2017 18:03 GMT
#1554
On March 06 2017 02:59 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
Exactly. You can enjoy playing CSGO, but it is not interesting to watch. While SC2 is amazing to watch, even if you don't play it.

Was literally writing out the exact same post.

It's almost like people can have different opinions
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 05 2017 18:05 GMT
#1555
On March 06 2017 02:46 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?

I think we had like 50k, but it was on another stream

a little over 60k with foreign streams iirc



Which is really good for 2017 SC2 to be honest. Will probably be second best behind blizzcon again.
Zest fanboy.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-05 18:09:58
March 05 2017 18:08 GMT
#1556
On March 06 2017 03:03 munch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:59 pvsnp wrote:
Exactly. You can enjoy playing CSGO, but it is not interesting to watch. While SC2 is amazing to watch, even if you don't play it.

Was literally writing out the exact same post.

It's almost like people can have different opinions

Having opinions is ok but you can also look at the game and see what it does well/badly for spectators in general.
CSGO's round based system alone makes it really easy to understand, every new round (in theory) a new chance to win it. Players get removed when they die till the end of the round which creates a lot of tense 1vs2, 1vs1, etc situations.
Also while the first person pov in general is incredibly bad for spectating, csgo is just slow enough where it doesn't affect the game negatively, it even gives us easy to see skill checks because we see exactly what the players do (i still argue that first person pov is underused in sc2, would make games more hype 100% if used well).

So yeah you don't have to like csgo by any means, but it does so many things well that it's ignorant to say it's a bad spectator experience.


On March 06 2017 03:05 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:46 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?

I think we had like 50k, but it was on another stream

a little over 60k with foreign streams iirc



Which is really good for 2017 SC2 to be honest. Will probably be second best behind blizzcon again.


Especially because neither Stats or TY are big fan favorites i think
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Kovzirg
Profile Joined July 2016
126 Posts
March 05 2017 18:09 GMT
#1557
On March 06 2017 03:01 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 03:00 Kovzirg wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps


Yes. Quake was the greatest 1on1 game ever made.

Interesting place to say that.


It's even weirder because my first game was Unreal Tournament.

I think it's nostalgia though for the most part. While I still enjoy gaming things will never live up to the old days.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
March 05 2017 18:30 GMT
#1558
On March 06 2017 03:00 Kovzirg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps


Yes. Quake was the greatest 1on1 game ever made.

SSBM even better
WriterMaru
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 05 2017 18:42 GMT
#1559
I have a controversial opinion I think.

StarCraft is the best 1v1 game ever made.

'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16007 Posts
March 05 2017 18:42 GMT
#1560
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

yeah I can understand why CS is so popular even though I personally don't enjoy it.
LoL and Dota on the other hand...
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
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