EPTOn March 06 2017 03:42 Ansibled wrote:
I have a controversial opinion I think.
StarCraft is the best 1v1 game ever made.
I have a controversial opinion I think.
StarCraft is the best 1v1 game ever made.
Which one?
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Which one? | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Isn't that an interesting question? | ||
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Durnuu
13322 Posts
I wish SSBM wasn't the same 5 players fighting for 1st place at every tournament :/ | ||
Poopi
France12912 Posts
On March 06 2017 03:48 Durnuu wrote: I wish SSBM wasn't the same 5 players fighting for 1st place at every tournament :/ It's actually not right now. Mostly Armada/Hbox with a bit of Mango and sometimes Leffen, M2K hasn't won in forever iirc. But there are up and coming players, Plup is the next godslayer for example. I'd rather have that than the random mess sc2 has been :x, but I guess it depends on your taste indeed. Tbf, most very well known 1v1 esports games are great, and probably the best in their respective genre! Can't really objectively say which game (among quake/sc:bw/sc2/ssbm/did I forget one?) is the best 1v1 game... | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
You are right, no need to go there haha | ||
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egrimm
Poland1199 Posts
1. The production was great. I loved the amount of content, short breaks between games and quick reports on games beeing played off the stream. Good casting and properly hosted by Kaelaris. 2. Great level of games in Ro8 onwards. there was some one sided games in Ro12 unfortunately however it is not that big of a deal. A bit to many mirrors tho even if still well played. 3. Format was quite interesting and refreshing and I liked it. My only concern was that there was just a bit too many games at group stages for my liking. Round robin + 6 players in group combined is too much I feel and not only it did slightly affect level of some games but also I did not manage to watch all games because of that. I'd prefer smaller amount of games but more showed at the stream at the same time. Potentially 2nd stream? 4. Organization this year felt better. I did not have any problem moving around the both venues, there was enough room to not feel overwhelmed by crowd. Also I love the fact that lol and sc2/Cs was run at different weeks - crowd was still big enough but more time and room for sc2 and not overly crowded venue  5. I wish there was more interaction with players as in 2015 - potential for some photos and shirt signing  All in all another great tournament by ESL keep it up guys! | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
I'm not old enough to have played BW when it was big so I say SCII. All I know about BW is that it's meant to be better :D | ||
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egrimm
Poland1199 Posts
On March 06 2017 04:13 sneakyfox wrote: 6. You saw TY win Haha that obviously too! Tbf I was totally OK with any Ro4 players to win. I always liked TY style especially his map tailored builds in PL. aLive played out of his mind this tournament - great underdog story. Dark the Zerg macro monster and ever improving, currently best Protoss Stats | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On March 06 2017 03:54 Poopi wrote: It's actually not right now. Mostly Armada/Hbox with a bit of Mango and sometimes Leffen, M2K hasn't won in forever iirc. But there are up and coming players, Plup is the next godslayer for example. I'd rather have that than the random mess sc2 has been :x, but I guess it depends on your taste indeed. Tbf, most very well known 1v1 esports games are great, and probably the best in their respective genre! Can't really objectively say which game (among quake/sc:bw/sc2/ssbm/did I forget one?) is the best 1v1 game... M2K > Hbox right now. But yes, the era of 5 gods is over by now. I'd say it's Armada >>>> Mango/M2K/Leffen/HBox > atm and probs won't change until Armada retires lol. And Quake is top1 | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 06 2017 04:37 Ej_ wrote: M2K > Hbox right now. But yes, the era of 5 gods is over by now. I'd say it's Armada >>>> Mango/M2K/Leffen/HBox > atm and probs won't change until Armada retires lol. And Quake is top1 Plebs talk about Flash when Armada is the real god  Quake is great, 2GD hopefully delivers and gives us Cypher playing diabotical instead of Overwatch | ||
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Kovzirg
126 Posts
On March 06 2017 03:54 Poopi wrote: It's actually not right now. Mostly Armada/Hbox with a bit of Mango and sometimes Leffen, M2K hasn't won in forever iirc. But there are up and coming players, Plup is the next godslayer for example. I'd rather have that than the random mess sc2 has been :x, but I guess it depends on your taste indeed. Tbf, most very well known 1v1 esports games are great, and probably the best in their respective genre! Can't really objectively say which game (among quake/sc:bw/sc2/ssbm/did I forget one?) is the best 1v1 game... Unreal Tournament/UT2004 was a fantastic 1v1 game though not nearly as fun to watch as Quake. It had some iconic players too namely GitzZz who I'd consider one of the GOAT FPS players. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18636 Posts
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Elentos
55572 Posts
On March 06 2017 05:20 sharkie wrote: Stats destined to end his career trophyless? :p Not in the literal sense ![[image loading]](http://mediadb.kicker.de/news/1000/10005/10065/10066/artikel/852565/sc2_crossfinals_stats_800x600-1464007834.jpg) | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Crossfinals, the only "korean tournament" even less valuable than the WC GSL Mvp won | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On March 06 2017 05:30 The_Red_Viper wrote: Crossfinals, the only "korean tournament" even less valuable than the WC GSL Mvp won Rain's Hotsix cup was pretty weak too :x | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 06 2017 05:33 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Rain's Hotsix cup was pretty weak too :x Does that count as a GSL as well? I would rate that around the same, probably higher than WC though | ||
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sharkie
Austria18636 Posts
What was that tournament? | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13996 Posts
Cross finals | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 06 2017 05:30 The_Red_Viper wrote: Crossfinals, the only "korean tournament" even less valuable than the WC GSL Mvp won Cmon  | ||
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