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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 05 2017 18:45 GMT
#1561
On March 06 2017 03:42 Ansibled wrote:
I have a controversial opinion I think.

StarCraft is the best 1v1 game ever made.


Which one?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-05 18:49:51
March 05 2017 18:47 GMT
#1562
On March 06 2017 03:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 03:42 Ansibled wrote:
I have a controversial opinion I think.

StarCraft is the best 1v1 game ever made.


Which one?

Isn't that an interesting question?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
March 05 2017 18:48 GMT
#1563
On March 06 2017 03:30 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 03:00 Kovzirg wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps


Yes. Quake was the greatest 1on1 game ever made.

SSBM even better

I wish SSBM wasn't the same 5 players fighting for 1st place at every tournament :/
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13020 Posts
March 05 2017 18:54 GMT
#1564
On March 06 2017 03:48 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 03:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 06 2017 03:00 Kovzirg wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps


Yes. Quake was the greatest 1on1 game ever made.

SSBM even better

I wish SSBM wasn't the same 5 players fighting for 1st place at every tournament :/

It's actually not right now. Mostly Armada/Hbox with a bit of Mango and sometimes Leffen, M2K hasn't won in forever iirc.
But there are up and coming players, Plup is the next godslayer for example.
I'd rather have that than the random mess sc2 has been :x, but I guess it depends on your taste indeed.

Tbf, most very well known 1v1 esports games are great, and probably the best in their respective genre!
Can't really objectively say which game (among quake/sc:bw/sc2/ssbm/did I forget one?) is the best 1v1 game...
WriterMaru
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 05 2017 18:57 GMT
#1565
On March 06 2017 03:47 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 03:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 06 2017 03:42 Ansibled wrote:
I have a controversial opinion I think.

StarCraft is the best 1v1 game ever made.


Which one?

Isn't that an interesting question?

You are right, no need to go there haha
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1201 Posts
March 05 2017 18:57 GMT
#1566
Ok, I've just left the venue - some impressions about the whole event:
1. The production was great. I loved the amount of content, short breaks between games and quick reports on games beeing played off the stream. Good casting and properly hosted by Kaelaris.
2. Great level of games in Ro8 onwards. there was some one sided games in Ro12 unfortunately however it is not that big of a deal. A bit to many mirrors tho even if still well played.
3. Format was quite interesting and refreshing and I liked it. My only concern was that there was just a bit too many games at group stages for my liking. Round robin + 6 players in group combined is too much I feel and not only it did slightly affect level of some games but also I did not manage to watch all games because of that. I'd prefer smaller amount of games but more showed at the stream at the same time. Potentially 2nd stream?
4. Organization this year felt better. I did not have any problem moving around the both venues, there was enough room to not feel overwhelmed by crowd. Also I love the fact that lol and sc2/Cs was run at different weeks - crowd was still big enough but more time and room for sc2 and not overly crowded venue
5. I wish there was more interaction with players as in 2015 - potential for some photos and shirt signing

All in all another great tournament by ESL keep it up guys!
sOs TY PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
March 05 2017 19:13 GMT
#1567
6. You saw TY win
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 05 2017 19:14 GMT
#1568
On March 06 2017 03:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 03:42 Ansibled wrote:
I have a controversial opinion I think.

StarCraft is the best 1v1 game ever made.


Which one?


I'm not old enough to have played BW when it was big so I say SCII. All I know about BW is that it's meant to be better :D
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1201 Posts
March 05 2017 19:19 GMT
#1569
On March 06 2017 04:13 sneakyfox wrote:
6. You saw TY win

Haha that obviously too!
Tbf I was totally OK with any Ro4 players to win. I always liked TY style especially his map tailored builds in PL. aLive played out of his mind this tournament - great underdog story. Dark the Zerg macro monster and ever improving, currently best Protoss Stats
sOs TY PartinG
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-05 19:37:43
March 05 2017 19:37 GMT
#1570
On March 06 2017 03:54 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 03:48 Durnuu wrote:
On March 06 2017 03:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 06 2017 03:00 Kovzirg wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps


Yes. Quake was the greatest 1on1 game ever made.

SSBM even better

I wish SSBM wasn't the same 5 players fighting for 1st place at every tournament :/

It's actually not right now. Mostly Armada/Hbox with a bit of Mango and sometimes Leffen, M2K hasn't won in forever iirc.
But there are up and coming players, Plup is the next godslayer for example.
I'd rather have that than the random mess sc2 has been :x, but I guess it depends on your taste indeed.

Tbf, most very well known 1v1 esports games are great, and probably the best in their respective genre!
Can't really objectively say which game (among quake/sc:bw/sc2/ssbm/did I forget one?) is the best 1v1 game...

M2K > Hbox right now. But yes, the era of 5 gods is over by now. I'd say it's Armada >>>> Mango/M2K/Leffen/HBox > atm and probs won't change until Armada retires lol.
And Quake is top1
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 05 2017 19:43 GMT
#1571
On March 06 2017 04:37 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 03:54 Poopi wrote:
On March 06 2017 03:48 Durnuu wrote:
On March 06 2017 03:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 06 2017 03:00 Kovzirg wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps


Yes. Quake was the greatest 1on1 game ever made.

SSBM even better

I wish SSBM wasn't the same 5 players fighting for 1st place at every tournament :/

It's actually not right now. Mostly Armada/Hbox with a bit of Mango and sometimes Leffen, M2K hasn't won in forever iirc.
But there are up and coming players, Plup is the next godslayer for example.
I'd rather have that than the random mess sc2 has been :x, but I guess it depends on your taste indeed.

Tbf, most very well known 1v1 esports games are great, and probably the best in their respective genre!
Can't really objectively say which game (among quake/sc:bw/sc2/ssbm/did I forget one?) is the best 1v1 game...

M2K > Hbox right now. But yes, the era of 5 gods is over by now. I'd say it's Armada >>>> Mango/M2K/Leffen/HBox > atm and probs won't change until Armada retires lol.
And Quake is top1

Plebs talk about Flash when Armada is the real god

Quake is great, 2GD hopefully delivers and gives us Cypher playing diabotical instead of Overwatch
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Kovzirg
Profile Joined July 2016
126 Posts
March 05 2017 19:53 GMT
#1572
On March 06 2017 03:54 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 03:48 Durnuu wrote:
On March 06 2017 03:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 06 2017 03:00 Kovzirg wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:48 Penev wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:47 Fango wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:43 Diabolique wrote:
ESL CS:GO 177596 viewers
Disgusting. How many viewers did we have? 50k? 60k? Part of them already waiting for CSGO?


tbf CSGO is actually a great esport. CS and SC are by far the highest skill games.

not great to watch tho imho

I prefer Quake 1on1 fps


Yes. Quake was the greatest 1on1 game ever made.

SSBM even better

I wish SSBM wasn't the same 5 players fighting for 1st place at every tournament :/

It's actually not right now. Mostly Armada/Hbox with a bit of Mango and sometimes Leffen, M2K hasn't won in forever iirc.
But there are up and coming players, Plup is the next godslayer for example.
I'd rather have that than the random mess sc2 has been :x, but I guess it depends on your taste indeed.

Tbf, most very well known 1v1 esports games are great, and probably the best in their respective genre!
Can't really objectively say which game (among quake/sc:bw/sc2/ssbm/did I forget one?) is the best 1v1 game...


Unreal Tournament/UT2004 was a fantastic 1v1 game though not nearly as fun to watch as Quake. It had some iconic players too namely GitzZz who I'd consider one of the GOAT FPS players.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18752 Posts
March 05 2017 20:20 GMT
#1573
Stats destined to end his career trophyless? :p
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
March 05 2017 20:26 GMT
#1574
On March 06 2017 05:20 sharkie wrote:
Stats destined to end his career trophyless? :p

Not in the literal sense
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Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 05 2017 20:30 GMT
#1575
On March 06 2017 05:26 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 05:20 sharkie wrote:
Stats destined to end his career trophyless? :p

Not in the literal sense
[image loading]

Crossfinals, the only "korean tournament" even less valuable than the WC GSL Mvp won
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 05 2017 20:33 GMT
#1576
On March 06 2017 05:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 05:26 Elentos wrote:
On March 06 2017 05:20 sharkie wrote:
Stats destined to end his career trophyless? :p

Not in the literal sense
[image loading]

Crossfinals, the only "korean tournament" even less valuable than the WC GSL Mvp won


Rain's Hotsix cup was pretty weak too :x
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 05 2017 20:39 GMT
#1577
On March 06 2017 05:33 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 05:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 06 2017 05:26 Elentos wrote:
On March 06 2017 05:20 sharkie wrote:
Stats destined to end his career trophyless? :p

Not in the literal sense
[image loading]

Crossfinals, the only "korean tournament" even less valuable than the WC GSL Mvp won


Rain's Hotsix cup was pretty weak too :x

Does that count as a GSL as well? I would rate that around the same, probably higher than WC though
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18752 Posts
March 05 2017 20:42 GMT
#1578
On March 06 2017 05:26 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 05:20 sharkie wrote:
Stats destined to end his career trophyless? :p

Not in the literal sense
[image loading]

What was that tournament?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
March 05 2017 20:49 GMT
#1579
On March 06 2017 05:42 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 05:26 Elentos wrote:
On March 06 2017 05:20 sharkie wrote:
Stats destined to end his career trophyless? :p

Not in the literal sense
[image loading]

What was that tournament?

Cross finals
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 05 2017 20:50 GMT
#1580
On March 06 2017 05:42 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 05:26 Elentos wrote:
On March 06 2017 05:20 sharkie wrote:
Stats destined to end his career trophyless? :p

Not in the literal sense
[image loading]

What was that tournament?


On March 06 2017 05:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 05:26 Elentos wrote:
On March 06 2017 05:20 sharkie wrote:
Stats destined to end his career trophyless? :p

Not in the literal sense
[image loading]

Crossfinals, the only "korean tournament" even less valuable than the WC GSL Mvp won

Cmon
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
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