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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
March 27 2016 18:50 GMT
#681
Normally, I don't watch English streams, so until now, I never knew how obnoxious pig's commentating is to watch. Other than that, I had so much fun watching this tournament. I hope they do more of these All-Star tournaments in the future.
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
March 27 2016 20:20 GMT
#682
On March 27 2016 22:06 seemsgood wrote:
Wow and both side try hard as fuck too I think blizzcon will be super epic Not one side as people thought.

No koreans have winrate less than 50%
No foreigners have winrate more than 50%
When they meet in blizzon in BO3s or BO5s, you should know what will happen..
Powermoo
Profile Joined February 2016
32 Posts
March 27 2016 21:02 GMT
#683
On March 28 2016 05:20 CxWiLL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2016 22:06 seemsgood wrote:
Wow and both side try hard as fuck too I think blizzcon will be super epic Not one side as people thought.

No koreans have winrate less than 50%
No foreigners have winrate more than 50%
When they meet in blizzon in BO3s or BO5s, you should know what will happen..


Source?
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2956 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-27 21:19:06
March 27 2016 21:15 GMT
#684
These showmatches were a really cool idea, imo.
Hopefully, this shows some organizers that there's still an interest in Foreigner vs Korean games. On Twitch alone (dunno how Chinese people watched the tournament, tbh), the showmatches attracted basically the same amount of viewers as the final day of the tournament on average (with the peak being quite a bit lower), which, in my opinion, is a huge accomplishment, considering it's only been show matches.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55585 Posts
March 27 2016 21:23 GMT
#685
On March 28 2016 06:15 Swisslink wrote:
These showmatches were a really cool idea, imo.
Hopefully, this shows some organizers that there's still an interest in Foreigner vs Korean games. On Twitch alone (dunno how Chinese people watched the tournament, tbh), the showmatches attracted basically the same amount of viewers as the final day of the tournament on average (with the peak being quite a bit lower), which, in my opinion, is a huge accomplishment, considering it's only been show matches.

Also considering it's Easter Sunday and the matches were mostly played in the morning for EU (after the switch from CET to CEST aswell). Honestly, by all accounts the viewer count should have been lower.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Parser
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy88 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-27 21:30:27
March 27 2016 21:30 GMT
#686
On March 28 2016 06:15 Swisslink wrote:
These showmatches were a really cool idea, imo.
Hopefully, this shows some organizers that there's still an interest in Foreigner vs Korean games. On Twitch alone (dunno how Chinese people watched the tournament, tbh), the showmatches attracted basically the same amount of viewers as the final day of the tournament on average (with the peak being quite a bit lower), which, in my opinion, is a huge accomplishment, considering it's only been show matches.


The interest in foreigner vs korean had been there forever and will remain until sc2 will have a following. The interest is not in seeing "international" tournaments with an all korean top 8/16
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
March 27 2016 23:45 GMT
#687
On March 28 2016 06:02 Powermoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2016 05:20 CxWiLL wrote:
On March 27 2016 22:06 seemsgood wrote:
Wow and both side try hard as fuck too I think blizzcon will be super epic Not one side as people thought.

No koreans have winrate less than 50%
No foreigners have winrate more than 50%
When they meet in blizzon in BO3s or BO5s, you should know what will happen..


Source?

I mean in this show match.
the worst koreans are Ty and stork with 2-2 (50%).
the best foreigners are snute and puck with 2-2 (50%).
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1207 Posts
March 28 2016 01:44 GMT
#688
On March 28 2016 08:45 CxWiLL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2016 06:02 Powermoo wrote:
On March 28 2016 05:20 CxWiLL wrote:
On March 27 2016 22:06 seemsgood wrote:
Wow and both side try hard as fuck too I think blizzcon will be super epic Not one side as people thought.

No koreans have winrate less than 50%
No foreigners have winrate more than 50%
When they meet in blizzon in BO3s or BO5s, you should know what will happen..


Source?

I mean in this show match.
the worst koreans are Ty and stork with 2-2 (50%).
the best foreigners are snute and puck with 2-2 (50%).


Well, seeing as two Koreans and two foreigners got 50%, your statement is kind of misleading.

So, when they meet in Blizzcon, two foreigners and two Koreans should have 50% win rates. So what's your point?
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Ensiferum8
Profile Joined March 2014
Canada103 Posts
March 28 2016 01:58 GMT
#689
On March 28 2016 10:44 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2016 08:45 CxWiLL wrote:
On March 28 2016 06:02 Powermoo wrote:
On March 28 2016 05:20 CxWiLL wrote:
On March 27 2016 22:06 seemsgood wrote:
Wow and both side try hard as fuck too I think blizzcon will be super epic Not one side as people thought.

No koreans have winrate less than 50%
No foreigners have winrate more than 50%
When they meet in blizzon in BO3s or BO5s, you should know what will happen..


Source?

I mean in this show match.
the worst koreans are Ty and stork with 2-2 (50%).
the best foreigners are snute and puck with 2-2 (50%).


Well, seeing as two Koreans and two foreigners got 50%, your statement is kind of misleading.

So, when they meet in Blizzcon, two foreigners and two Koreans should have 50% win rates. So what's your point?

the point is that koreans still had a 75% winrate.
The point is that stork is a coach and still demolish harstem, the ''champion''
The point is that this was a bo1, without any preparation (which usually vastly favors korean)
The point is that 3 of their wins were all ins (2 vs TY, 1 vs DRG)
The point is that in a bo5/bo7, koreans will perform way better, because the longer a serie goes, the more it favors the stronger player.


Need any other points?
WCS is a shitty joke, with racist rules. Support players who deserves it instead of foreigner scrubs who dont work half as much as koreans. JUN TAEYANG IS THE BEST <3
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1207 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-28 04:01:06
March 28 2016 03:58 GMT
#690
On March 28 2016 10:58 Ensiferum8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2016 10:44 FrkFrJss wrote:
On March 28 2016 08:45 CxWiLL wrote:
On March 28 2016 06:02 Powermoo wrote:
On March 28 2016 05:20 CxWiLL wrote:
On March 27 2016 22:06 seemsgood wrote:
Wow and both side try hard as fuck too I think blizzcon will be super epic Not one side as people thought.

No koreans have winrate less than 50%
No foreigners have winrate more than 50%
When they meet in blizzon in BO3s or BO5s, you should know what will happen..


Source?

I mean in this show match.
the worst koreans are Ty and stork with 2-2 (50%).
the best foreigners are snute and puck with 2-2 (50%).


Well, seeing as two Koreans and two foreigners got 50%, your statement is kind of misleading.

So, when they meet in Blizzcon, two foreigners and two Koreans should have 50% win rates. So what's your point?

the point is that koreans still had a 75% winrate.
The point is that stork is a coach and still demolish harstem, the ''champion''
The point is that this was a bo1, without any preparation (which usually vastly favors korean)
The point is that 3 of their wins were all ins (2 vs TY, 1 vs DRG)
The point is that in a bo5/bo7, koreans will perform way better, because the longer a serie goes, the more it favors the stronger player.


Need any other points?


No, those points are all valid. However, none of what you said was conveyed in your original post. The fact that two Koreans and two foreigners have the same winrate doesn't really mean anything. It was what you said in this post that was your meaning

But I must say that all-ins do not take away from wins seeing as Parting and Life both are known for their all ins. sOs is a master at weird early games. And yes, mostly likely the Koreans will win, but the thing is, major detractors of foreign Starcraft and WCS say that foreigners are far below the level of Koreans. But we saw foreigners performing well in multiple close macro games along with Harstem beating Byul in a longer game.

If foreigners, and the not-as-good ones can take games off of Code A and Code S players, then that bodes well for the best of the foreigners going up against mid-high code A players. Whether you like it or not, stork is still a Code S/Code A player. And we saw puck, a-not-the-best player from NA, which is worse than EU, beat him twice,
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
March 28 2016 08:33 GMT
#691
Neeb would've gone 4-0. /thread
StarCraft | www.psistorm.com | www.twitter.com/MistakesSC | www.twitch.tv/MistakesSC | Seattle
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16082 Posts
March 28 2016 09:17 GMT
#692
On March 28 2016 17:33 Mistakes wrote:
Neeb would've gone 4-0. /thread

I would've gone 4-0 too. /thread
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 28 2016 12:40 GMT
#693
BTW, cut up youtube vods now available here
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Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
March 28 2016 15:48 GMT
#694
18-6...not bad, not bad showing at all. That's a 25% win rate! (no sarcasm)
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Heyjoray
Profile Joined September 2015
240 Posts
March 28 2016 16:23 GMT
#695
On March 29 2016 00:48 Daniel C wrote:
18-6...not bad, not bad showing at all. That's a 25% win rate! (no sarcasm)

Not really. Byul played baneling drops against protoss. On Ulrena. And cant that this ravager infestor broodlord viper by snute serious
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