EPTGold Series International 2016 All Star Showmatch - Page 33
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Yiome
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sparklyresidue
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Musicus
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Elentos
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On March 27 2016 21:04 Phredxor wrote: I was always half hoping he would send himself as Ace one day in PL. I now see that will never happen  Yeah I think the time where that was an option has passed | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On March 27 2016 21:03 Phredxor wrote: I take that back. Stork is very bad  What does that say about Inno? | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
I blame the programming for the new expansion. Clearly had some bugs still being worked out. Luckily they got the service patch out shortly afterwards and he fixed right up. | ||
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Elentos
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Inno was terrible in that Code A match. Really, really bad. I'm still surprised that that started a hype train for Stork with people thinking he was a favorite in his Ro32 group ._. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On March 27 2016 21:13 Elentos wrote: Inno was terrible in that Code A match. Really, really bad. I'm still surprised that that started a hype train for Stork with people thinking he was a favorite in his Ro32 group ._. Well he still got third in a strong group. I think objectively speaking, "Stork is very bad" is not true. Depends on your standards I guess. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On March 27 2016 21:16 Musicus wrote: Well he still got third in a strong group. I think objectively speaking, "Stork is very bad" is not true. Depends on your standards I guess. Obviously he's better than me and anyone else here (Unless Nerchio is still lurking), but he played pretty damn poorly. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On March 27 2016 21:17 Phredxor wrote: Obviously he's better than me and anyone else here (Unless Nerchio is still lurking), but he played pretty damn poorly. Yeah he was not so hot today, should've lost vs Toodming tbh. | ||
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Elentos
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On March 27 2016 21:16 Musicus wrote: Well he still got third in a strong group. I think objectively speaking, "Stork is very bad" is not true. Depends on your standards I guess. It was a good group, but not really that strong. Of course Stork isn't objectively speaking "very bad", he plays on the pro level and it's not like everyone crushes him every time. But the way he played out that game against puCK was bad. The other games, too. Can't even believe he won that game against Toodming. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
Makes me pretty sad that we get next to no real Korean vs Foreigner events though. | ||
munch
Mute City2363 Posts
"Very bad" is a defensible statement if you're talking about his status as a KR pro. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On March 27 2016 21:22 thecrazymunchkin wrote: If we discuss pro players, obviously we discuss them in context. Obviously Stork is a better player than the vast majority of players who've bought Starcraft 2. Equally though, he's clearly worse than the vast majority of players in Code S right now; I doubt you can argue that he's within the top 40 or so in KR. "Very bad" is a defensible statement if you're talking about his status as a KR pro. Well he finished top 24 in Code S, so I think arguing he is top40 is not that hard. He is one of the weaker Code S level players yes, but calling a Code S level player very bad in any context does not seem right to me. | ||
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rednusa
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Elentos
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On March 27 2016 21:26 Musicus wrote: Well he finished top 24 in Code S, so I think arguing he is top40 is not that hard. He is one of the weaker Code S level players yes, but calling a Code S level player very bad in any context does not seem right to me. Well frankly, I think there were a bunch of players in Code A that are better than Stork and either didn't perform or just faced players much stronger than Stork (*cough* Maru vs Zest *cough*), so just the placement doesn't really mean much. So yeah, he's just contextually very bad. Aka he was very bad in his matches today. Except against Harstem I guess. Well the first half of his rematch vs puCK was also fine. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On March 27 2016 21:32 Elentos wrote: Well frankly, I think there were a bunch of players in Code A that are better than Stork and either didn't perform or just faced players much stronger than Stork (*cough* Maru vs Zest *cough*), so just the placement doesn't really mean much. So yeah, he's just contextually very bad. Aka he was very bad in his matches today. Except against Harstem I guess. Well the first half of his rematch vs puCK was also fine. That I can see, but then we should just say "Stork played very bad today/in this game". Does not sound disrespectful and is way more precise. Edit: Also I do not think his placement means he is top 24 in Korea, but I think around top 40 makes sense, even if you put Maru and the others that underperformed or got a hard draw ahead of him | ||
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Elentos
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I'd say he's best PvZ atm, best PvT is Zest and best PvP is kinda open (but imo it's between Dear and Stats). Dear's just slightly on the weaker side against Terran so far. (If anyone cares, IMO best TvT is Maru, best TvP TY; best TvZ is hard to say, I'd say Inno or ByuN) | ||
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On March 27 2016 21:33 Musicus wrote: That I can see, but then we should just say "Stork played very bad today/in this game". Does not sound disrespectful and is way more precise. Edit: Also I do not think his placement means he is top 24 in Korea, but I think around top 40 makes sense, even if you put Maru and the others that underperformed or got a hard draw ahead of him OK, big list coming: + Show Spoiler + herO MyuNgSiK Super Billowy Hurricane Classic HerO Dear Patience sOs Zest Stats Trap Trust (14 P) INnoVation BrAvO GuMiho ByuN TY Journey KeeN Dream SpeeD Sorry Cure aLive Maru jjakji Reality Bomber Bunny TaeJa (18 T) DeParture ByuL Rogue Impact Curious soO Losira RagnaroK Soulkey Leenock DRG Dark Solar (13 Z) That's purely based off an eye test on Code A participants, and while you might be able to argue about a few of them, I'd like to see someone try to cut 15 players from the list for Stork to be top 40. This isn't really Stork-bashing, cause I love him, but he's a coach, not a player. If anything, we should be marveling that he remains in the top 50 or so players in KR even while he's not a pro player | ||
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