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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:35 EatingBomber wrote: I thought tanks were trash against Ravagers? better then mines by a long shot. Also Liberators die easily to corrosive biles while tanks can be saved by medivac pick-up micro. Have to see more Korean TvZ but I think tanks are still the way to go against roach-ravager | ||
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JonSki
United Kingdom126 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:36 Elentos wrote: Also admit you'd rather see ByuN vs soO than Losira vs soO  Am i missing something? how and why would ByuN be playing soO? | ||
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:36 SC2Toastie wrote: We can easily wait 2/3 months as there will be no games affected by the state of balance revolving Terran anyways... However, Terrans have been complaining about issues for ages and they're always ignored. Wait for tournament results, is said. Now the issues show up in Tournaments (TO A HUGE DEGREE), and then the 'wait for the meta to figure it out' argument starts popping up. We need a balance patch or a decent map pool ASAP because these are issues with Terran being completely countered from the get-go through new units and a wonky economy and impossible expos. What we really need is you to stop moaning in this thread | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:37 JonSki wrote: Am i missing something? how and why would ByuN be playing soO? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_StarCraft_II_StarLeague_Season_1/Main_Event If it is right the draw was pre determined. | ||
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Elentos
55570 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:37 JonSki wrote: Am i missing something? how and why would ByuN be playing soO? soO is the only player in the Ro16 who doesn't have an opponent yet. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:38 Topdoller wrote: What we really need is you to stop moaning in this thread Thanks for responding to my arguments in a constructive manner. | ||
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dNa
Germany591 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:37 EatingBomber wrote: Actually completely surprised by how TvP is Protoss-favoured in the tournaments today. I had previously thought it was Terran-favoured since many people were saying how Liberators were insanely powerful and OP (which I somewhat agree with) people seem to have figured out that you can walk arround liberation zones.  | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:36 Elentos wrote: Also admit you'd rather see ByuN vs soO than Losira vs soO Haha yeah that too (even though i didn't know it when i made the comment ) | ||
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WidowMineHero
New Zealand143 Posts
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Elentos
55570 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:40 WidowMineHero wrote: Where are the Terrans? ~25 of them dead, 2 of them already through and 1 currently playing. | ||
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dNa
Germany591 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:39 SC2Toastie wrote: Thanks for responding to my arguments in a constructive manner. isn't this a live repord thread? Granted I've not participated in many of those, but what I know about them there's not gonna be a well thought out balance discussion in here. It's moving way too fast plus there's tons of other stuff to talk about. | ||
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:39 SC2Toastie wrote: Thanks for responding to my arguments in a constructive manner. Why do i need to be constructive about your arguments about balance in this thread? I thought these competition threads are supposed to be whine free. There are plenty of threads ongoing on other parts of the forums for balance discussions | ||
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EatingBomber
1017 Posts
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JonSki
United Kingdom126 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:38 Pandemona wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_StarCraft_II_StarLeague_Season_1/Main_Event If it is right the draw was pre determined. You're a gentleman and a scholar, thank you!! | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:42 EatingBomber wrote: I actually agree that at this point it is too early to determine the actual state of balance, even when Terrans are doing poorly now, as the fundamental nature of LotV is so volatile that it is impossible to say for sure whether Terrans are losing due to imbalance or due to strategic disadvantages and backwardness. For instance I actually expected TvP to be Terran-favoured, but it turned out that the Terrans in this tournament performed poorly against Protoss, so.. Protoss can't win against Lategame Terran when played well; Terran can't get to lategame. It's a bit like WOL TvP actually, just the other way around. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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dNa
Germany591 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:43 JonSki wrote: You're a gentleman and a scholar, thank you!! draw wasn't predetermined, people drew balls to see what match the were playing. Only 1 ball left now ;P | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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EatingBomber
1017 Posts
On December 17 2015 22:43 SC2Toastie wrote: Protoss can't win against Lategame Terran when played well; Terran can't get to lategame. It's a bit like WOL TvP actually, just the other way around. Was WoL TvP that imbalanced? I thought that, aside from Broodlord-Infestor, the game was balanced from mid-2011 to 2012. I seem to recall that the only imbalance was the 1-1-1 Cloaked Banshee + Siege Tank all-in, which could not be scouted in time by Protoss, but I believe that was fixed at the end with larger maps + greater innovation in builds by Protoss? | ||
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EatingBomber
1017 Posts
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