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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 17 2015 13:52 GMT
#1141
On December 17 2015 22:51 negativedge wrote:
where has this byun been for three years?!?

The things that happened on Prime, man.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 13:52:51
December 17 2015 13:52 GMT
#1142
On December 17 2015 22:51 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 22:51 Pandemona wrote:
Byun looks yellow xD

That's racist ..... :p

Well he looks ill no one else looks like that
Might be the lighting but he looks sick
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 17 2015 13:52 GMT
#1143
On December 17 2015 22:46 EatingBomber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 22:43 SC2Toastie wrote:
On December 17 2015 22:42 EatingBomber wrote:
I actually agree that at this point it is too early to determine the actual state of balance, even when Terrans are doing poorly now, as the fundamental nature of LotV is so volatile that it is impossible to say for sure whether Terrans are losing due to imbalance or due to strategic disadvantages and backwardness. For instance I actually expected TvP to be Terran-favoured, but it turned out that the Terrans in this tournament performed poorly against Protoss, so..

Protoss can't win against Lategame Terran when played well; Terran can't get to lategame.

It's a bit like WOL TvP actually, just the other way around.


Was WoL TvP that imbalanced? I thought that, aside from Broodlord-Infestor, the game was balanced from mid-2011 to 2012. I seem to recall that the only imbalance was the 1-1-1 Cloaked Banshee + Siege Tank all-in, which could not be scouted in time by Protoss, but I believe that was fixed at the end with larger maps + greater innovation in builds by Protoss?

AFAIK (this is 4 years ago though) Protoss died like flies to 3 rax attacks with stim early on, partially during the TvT era and before that.

Still, the dynamic is similar.

WOL/HOTS
Survive Terran til double Aoe is out.

LOTV
Survive Toss till Liberators
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
December 17 2015 13:53 GMT
#1144
Impressive by Byun, well worth the victory
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 17 2015 13:53 GMT
#1145
Ah, if I was watching on youtube the chat probably would have told me by now what they're saying.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 17 2015 13:55 GMT
#1146
3/16, still better than 2014 season 1 and 2.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 17 2015 13:56 GMT
#1147
On December 17 2015 22:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 22:50 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
gg, nothing wrong with tvz...

Yeah, there was nothing wrong with HotS TvZ, as demonstrated in this LotV game.

That's not really how this works
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
SystemXN
Profile Joined December 2011
China105 Posts
December 17 2015 13:57 GMT
#1148
Congratz ByuN!

I heard from some Chinese sources saying that ByuN was in melancholia for years and he is still fear of crowd... don't know if it is true though.

I hope someone would translate ByuN's winner interview.
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Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
December 17 2015 13:57 GMT
#1149
On December 17 2015 22:52 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 22:51 argonautdice wrote:
On December 17 2015 22:51 Pandemona wrote:
Byun looks yellow xD

That's racist ..... :p

Well he looks ill no one else looks like that
Might be the lighting but he looks sick

Good thing is he might go to China soon according to F91
Not sure if it is a long term thing or just a short term travel
But either way might help him a bit
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
December 17 2015 13:57 GMT
#1150
ByuN is back!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 13:59:27
December 17 2015 13:58 GMT
#1151
Byun, as the last player, and as the only terran who advanced beating non-terran, after not presenting himself for years, so touching.
XPA
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany242 Posts
December 17 2015 13:59 GMT
#1152
On December 17 2015 22:52 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 22:51 argonautdice wrote:
On December 17 2015 22:51 Pandemona wrote:
Byun looks yellow xD

That's racist ..... :p

Well he looks ill no one else looks like that
Might be the lighting but he looks sick


I have a gene defect which causes my skin and eyes to look yellow sometimes. Has no negative influence besides looking weird (and a intolerance against some pain killers). Just saying that it must not be a bad sign
egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 13:59:10
December 17 2015 13:59 GMT
#1153
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 13:59:33
December 17 2015 13:59 GMT
#1154
On December 17 2015 22:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 22:51 Elentos wrote:
On December 17 2015 22:50 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
gg, nothing wrong with tvz...

Yeah, there was nothing wrong with HotS TvZ, as demonstrated in this LotV game.

That's not really how this works

But they played a total HotS TvZ, even down to the no hive tech part, it's how I want it to work
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
December 17 2015 14:00 GMT
#1155
On December 17 2015 22:57 SystemXN wrote:
Congratz ByuN!

I heard from some Chinese sources saying that ByuN was in melancholia for years and he is still fear of crowd... don't know if it is true though.

I hope someone would translate ByuN's winner interview.

Honestly wouldn't surprise if that was the case. Whatever may be the reason he "disappeared" for such a long time, I hope he's alright and is feeling good.
Hello
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 17 2015 14:01 GMT
#1156
On December 17 2015 22:59 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 22:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2015 22:51 Elentos wrote:
On December 17 2015 22:50 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
gg, nothing wrong with tvz...

Yeah, there was nothing wrong with HotS TvZ, as demonstrated in this LotV game.

That's not really how this works

But they played a total HotS TvZ, even down to the no hive tech part, it's how I want it to work

Larva works differently, expansion times work differently, etc
I feel like hots zvt isn't that good anymore.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 17 2015 14:01 GMT
#1157
On December 17 2015 23:00 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 22:57 SystemXN wrote:
Congratz ByuN!

I heard from some Chinese sources saying that ByuN was in melancholia for years and he is still fear of crowd... don't know if it is true though.

I hope someone would translate ByuN's winner interview.

Honestly wouldn't surprise if that was the case. Whatever may be the reason he "disappeared" for such a long time, I hope he's alright and is feeling good.

So maybe Gerrard did sell the puppy along with ByuN's personal high-performance PC.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 17 2015 14:02 GMT
#1158
On December 17 2015 23:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2015 22:59 Elentos wrote:
On December 17 2015 22:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2015 22:51 Elentos wrote:
On December 17 2015 22:50 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
gg, nothing wrong with tvz...

Yeah, there was nothing wrong with HotS TvZ, as demonstrated in this LotV game.

That's not really how this works

But they played a total HotS TvZ, even down to the no hive tech part, it's how I want it to work

Larva works differently, expansion times work differently, etc
I feel like hots zvt isn't that good anymore.

Yeah no ling/bane/muta was a bad idea from Losira. Probably better than rushing to hive without upgrades but still not the best.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 17 2015 14:03 GMT
#1159
Can we talk about how much the new SSL format sucks? And then we (apparently) only get two next year?
Srsly i am kinda scared at this point what will happen to proleague (even though that shouldn't be on on the same days as LCK i think?)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 17 2015 14:07 GMT
#1160
On December 17 2015 23:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Can we talk about how much the new SSL format sucks? And then we (apparently) only get two next year?
Srsly i am kinda scared at this point what will happen to proleague (even though that shouldn't be on on the same days as LCK i think?)

Depends, if the Ro16 is bo3 then it sucks shit. If it's bo5 I can live with it.

Also I don't think it affects Proleague, KeSPA has a much bigger stake in Proleague so they'd try to protect it more.
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