Let´s see what happens when other top terrans really start playing Lotv. Can´t really see zerg´s defending against drops with roach/ravager. I feel like TvZ as a matchup is not in a great position at the moment.

The_Red_Viper

19533 Posts

December 04 2015 16:07 GMT

#144

As long as Byun doesn't go anywhere and plays offline i won't value this at all. This is way too fishy for way too long now.
Him not going to HSC makes it even more ridiculous

Eiltonn

Germany307 Posts

December 04 2015 16:10 GMT

#145

On December 05 2015 01:02 PepperMintTea wrote:

Yes Ultralisks with max upgrades are good, but they are an extreme late game unit and should require more than T1 to defeat.

I dislike the T1 should not be able to fight T3 argument. Lots of Protoss players brought this up in the past complaining how Bio armies wreck their lategame compositions. Bio is the only thing viable vs Toss though so Terran doesnt have the choice to get a "better" army. Also Lings shred Thors for example (and Lings are even below Marauders in Tech while Thor=Ultra). If we only allow certain units to counter other units SC2 remains a game of "he got 5 Colossi so i need 10-15 Vikings to win" which limits strategy. In Hots Marauders were too good vs Ultras though, no question about that.

On December 05 2015 01:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
As long as Byun doesn't go anywhere and plays offline i won't value this at all. This is way too fishy for way too long now.
Him not going to HSC makes it even more ridiculous

Byun is not going to HSC?!? WTF seriously?

Big J

Austria16289 Posts

December 04 2015 16:13 GMT

#146

On December 05 2015 01:10 Eiltonn wrote:

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True, but there should be some strategical adaption. If you play like 4M and against MLB then there should be options for both sides to eventually transition and get advantages. A Zerg with ultras or BLs should get an advantage if the Terran doesn't adapt, same as a Terran with liberator or tanks or something should get an advantage if the zerg doesn't adapt. Otherwise the game gets stuck very easily in a state where everyone is playing one composition blindly and forever.

shockaslim

United States1104 Posts

December 04 2015 20:52 GMT

#147

He is supposed to be going to the China though to play in the playoffs for that Chinese team tournament though.

The_Red_Viper

19533 Posts

December 06 2015 14:18 GMT

#148

On December 05 2015 05:52 shockaslim wrote:

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He is supposed to be going to the China though to play in the playoffs for that Chinese team tournament though.

Yeah let's wait and see if this happens. Maybe he will get sick 1 day before.

Elentos

55552 Posts

December 06 2015 14:50 GMT

#149

On December 06 2015 23:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:

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Yeah let's wait and see if this happens. Maybe he will get sick 1 day before.

I mean, it's possible he plays in the GSL Pre-Season in 1 1/2 weeks and we see him then.

The_Red_Viper

19533 Posts

December 06 2015 16:26 GMT

#150

On December 06 2015 23:50 Elentos wrote:

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I mean, it's possible he plays in the GSL Pre-Season in 1 1/2 weeks and we see him then.

IIRC that is mostly online too

Elentos

55552 Posts

December 06 2015 16:43 GMT

#151

On December 07 2015 01:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:

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IIRC that is mostly online too

Yeah but the final part is offline in the studio. And depending on how GSL seeding is done (or if it's done rather, I think we talked about this before right?) the online part is gonna be missing a lot of potential heavy hitters. So if ByuN participated the odds of him getting to the offline part would be pretty good.