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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
December 04 2015 15:34 GMT
#121
That drop micro.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
December 04 2015 15:35 GMT
#122
I think Corsair cup needs nerchio and 6 AM ByuN.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Lemartes
Profile Joined June 2015
Austria57 Posts
December 04 2015 15:35 GMT
#123
wtf. I need to try that push
NaDa | IMMVP | ByuN?
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-04 15:37:33
December 04 2015 15:37 GMT
#124
On December 05 2015 00:35 Lemartes wrote:
wtf. I need to try that push

HB pushes have been ending games since the beginning of Hots.
Edit: Freedom makes them stronger naturally.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10085 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-04 15:41:16
December 04 2015 15:39 GMT
#125
On December 05 2015 00:35 royalroadweed wrote:
I think Corsair cup needs nerchio and 6 AM ByuN.

but on wich server xD
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-04 15:40:22
December 04 2015 15:39 GMT
#126
On December 05 2015 00:37 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 00:35 Lemartes wrote:
wtf. I need to try that push

HB pushes have been ending games since the beginning of Hots.
Edit: Freedom makes them stronger naturally.

They dropped off for about a year until the transform buff. Terrible times :p
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
December 04 2015 15:45 GMT
#127
Reaper expand into hellion banshee still best build.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
SmykuToronto
Profile Joined October 2014
Poland269 Posts
December 04 2015 15:47 GMT
#128
On December 05 2015 00:24 CynicalDeath wrote:
...ByuN's MMT micro is insane and his TvT is nearly impeccable...
...Maru and INoVation should start worrying...

Why would they? It's not like ByuN will ever appear in any offline event
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
December 04 2015 15:50 GMT
#129
That drop micro.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10085 Posts
December 04 2015 15:50 GMT
#130
hahaha too good
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
December 04 2015 15:52 GMT
#131
I can´t help to think that terran will eventually dominate ZvT matchup if zerg has to play ravager/roach mid games. Bio is still really strong if you don´t die to the first push. Bring back my mutas
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
December 04 2015 15:54 GMT
#132
Ravager, roach looks so boring to play. This isn't Zerg
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3462 Posts
December 04 2015 15:55 GMT
#133
On December 05 2015 00:47 SmykuToronto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 00:24 CynicalDeath wrote:
...ByuN's MMT micro is insane and his TvT is nearly impeccable...
...Maru and INoVation should start worrying...

Why would they? It's not like ByuN will ever appear in any offline event

"There is always hope"
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 04 2015 16:02 GMT
#134
I have been trying to make that ling/bling/hydra work for 4years or so, let's see what soulkey does with it
PepperMintTea
Profile Joined November 2015
187 Posts
December 04 2015 16:02 GMT
#135
My biggest worry is that Blizzard will look at statistical markers to determine that ZvT is balanced. The reality of the situation is that an early roach-ravager push is dangerous and can win games however if you don't win with that or try to play a macro game as zerg.

Then Terran has a huge window to kill you where it is very hard to defend, the period where it used to be a muta,ling,bane.

Yes Ultralisks with max upgrades are good, but they are an extreme late game unit and should require more than T1 to defeat.

If they use a win % metric then they can say that the matchup is "balanced" but in reality it is a poor state if zerg has to roach ravager timing or die trying
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
December 04 2015 16:02 GMT
#136
On December 05 2015 01:02 Big J wrote:
I have been trying to make that ling/bling/hydra work for 4years or so, let's see what soulkey does with it

Without mutas/corruptors some maps will be hell for zerg against drops.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
December 04 2015 16:04 GMT
#137
Nerchio confirmed #1 Zerg
Liquipedia"Expert"
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 04 2015 16:04 GMT
#138
wow byun absolutely trashed him in that last game
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-04 16:05:08
December 04 2015 16:04 GMT
#139
On December 05 2015 01:02 PepperMintTea wrote:
My biggest worry is that Blizzard will look at statistical markers to determine that ZvT is balanced. The reality of the situation is that an early roach-ravager push is dangerous and can win games however if you don't win with that or try to play a macro game as zerg.

Then Terran has a huge window to kill you where it is very hard to defend, the period where it used to be a muta,ling,bane.

Yes Ultralisks with max upgrades are good, but they are an extreme late game unit and should require more than T1 to defeat.

If they use a win % metric then they can say that the matchup is "balanced" but in reality it is a poor state if zerg has to roach ravager timing or die trying

I'm sure they will look at win %s at different game lengths.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 04 2015 16:05 GMT
#140
Yeah I tried ling/bling/hydra too in the past and once again with LotV. But the pre hive timing is just too strong against it and you hardy ever survive a big bio push. It can snowball in your favour if you can snipe medivacs early on I guess, but it rarely happens.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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