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On April 20 2015 21:13 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On April 20 2015 21:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:04 Ragnarork wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 Wintex wrote:On April 20 2015 20:51 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:48 Wintex wrote:On April 20 2015 20:46 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:44 Wintex wrote:
Ok guys let`s just stop discussing with Kelsier since he won't stop repeating the same post over and over again. We are going in circles and should do something productive instead.
Opinions are and will remain opinions. well i've put forward reasons why the all-kill format doesn't make sense here and also why the format is poor in general and your only argument is that i'm bitching about protoss so clearly you didn't want to have a discussion anyway My first two posts directed at you mentioned race. The rest have not. Please look at the logs and reply to the arguments I've made about how the formats complement each other and create a change of pace for the viewers. It will make it easier for us both. you haven't contributed anything particularly valuable that makes me want to read your posts again. I disagree with you about the formats complementing eachother and i'm discussing that with people but if you want to just say "don't talk to him, i disagree with him" then you can be that kind of a person I guess No, you're just failing to assess the situation fairly. The formats work well together from a dramaturgical point of view (spectators, how important matches are etc), from a strategic point of view (one should be able to beat everything a team can throw at one) and because it showcases a different team dynamic. A team should be good as a team to reach a playoffs, and the regular format allows the most skilled teams to show how good their whole team is, while still leaving the ace player to show great stuff in an ace match. The All Kill format changes that and expects that every member that comes out should be able to contribute. If one fails, the next member either picks up the slack or makes the outcome more horrible. It also creates suspense in the order in which players come out in, and allows for clever sniping. A player that reaches the playoffs should be able to take down anything the opposing team can throw at him or her. These arguments seem to hold more ground than your personal dislike of format. This. Regular season allows for teams with depth but no big big stars to do well and reach the playoffs with snipe builds and shit. Playoffs then allow teams with more raw skill to make the difference. I didn't see anyone bring the issue that actually, the regular season format may sometimes defines the outcome of a match purely based on the match-ups (depending on match-ups winratio, maps, etc), whereas the all-kill format allows for some clever adaptation that in my opinion rewards a bit more actual depth. That's why we don't see all-kills that much, and not always from star players (I mean, Stats is good, but has yet to really become tier 1, though his current record in Proleague and this all-kill makes for serious arguments for it). Stats IS tier one, top 5 toss easily The most underrated and forgotten top 5 toss of the past year D: Wow people still sleeping on Stats. He's been top 5 protoss since last year WCG. With Rain declining, Zest and sOs being inconsistent, the only protoss you can put ahead of Stats are PartinG and herO. And he can even surpass them if he has more results to show for it.
The hardest thing will be winning some stuff since he never goes abroad. But in terms of skills there isn't much difference. And all of this will be solved in the best PvP group of all time anyway :D
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On April 20 2015 21:15 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:13 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:12 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2015 21:11 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2015 21:05 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:02 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:00 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:55 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:53 Exstasy wrote:
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See at least you're contributing to the discussion, referencing his playstyle, taking into account other factors etc. Ok playstyle: Flash plays passively and stubbornly and like to allin in TvP. And he has been very very meh at that for a few months. if you haven't noticed most Terrans have been doing scv all ins vs P. It wasn't a bad response to the deathball when people were first doing it but now P just has to force a comfortable engagement by a nexus and they'll likely come out ahead. I think we'll see more of Maru's style (hopefully against stats tomorrow). 'has been very very meh' Very descriptive. Most terrans? Pretty 50/50 imo. Oh you want more description? Flash has been dowright terrible and has only started to win some games recently after a huge stretch of only losses and even then he looks mediocore. What I mean is that to contribute to a discussion you should back up claims of 'downright terrible' and 'mediocre' because how are you measuring those? he lost some games and you don't like his play? Yeah, did you notice how he destroyed everyone in Round 1? And how he went very far in both Korean leagues in S1 too? no one should have to tell you that these are not easy leagues. In Round 1 he beat BboongBboong and lost to Rogue, herO, Losira, Dark, BravO and Bomber. that should speak for itself And? To be considered good (that is, not mediocre, or above average) you need to beat good players. If you're unable to beat good players, then you're not considered good. Isn't it how it works? No! We as forum dwellers have no clue and would lose against Flash rendering him incapable of being in a slump! Slumps are myths there are only good players and they never have a dip in form for a period with which we refer to with the S word Savior?
good one haha
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On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:56 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:52 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:50 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:46 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:45 Exstasy wrote:
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Yeah I think it applies to Inno but I'm not exclusively talking about him. Form naturally ebbs and flows, It is stupid after some good form to then expect only that or spout slump slump. Nobody did that though. You just came out of nowhere insulted forum "dwellers". For example, go to earlier pages of this thread and see the 'slump slump' comments about Flash. Flash would still trash 99% of sc2 players everytime but the fact that he has bad form is a testament to the skill level of the game, especially in Korea. but it's "Flash loses to Dark, derp slump slump". ofc Flash would trash most sc2 players lol he is a pro. Doesnt change the fact that he has been incredibly mediocore to downright bad for a couple of months now and I am pretty sure that is a slump. So once again you arguement falls flat cause those people are actually correct. I dont even get where your point is in Flash would beat Forum users thats just dumb. that was not my point lol First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again. Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf
Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows.
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On April 20 2015 20:58 Silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:54 sAsImre wrote:On April 20 2015 20:53 Elentos wrote:On April 20 2015 20:52 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2015 20:50 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:46 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:45 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:43 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:42 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:39 GumBa wrote:
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Are you trolling. Pls don't tell me you are serious. INnoVation is playing bad since Iem no ifs no buts and that is defined as slump. And lol trying to make forum dweller feel better about themselves are you for real? I'm sorry Ms.Jackson I am for real. there is more to a players form than looking at a win/loss ratio. You can boil it down to that if you want but you're excluding a lot of information. I'm not exclusively talking about Inno here btw, someone loses and they go 'slump slump slump' as if that contributes anything to any discussion. You specifally call out a post talking about INnoVation though. Yeah I think it applies to Inno but I'm not exclusively talking about him. Form naturally ebbs and flows, It is stupid after some good form to then expect only that or spout slump slump. Nobody did that though. You just came out of nowhere insulted forum "dwellers". For example, go to earlier pages of this thread and see the 'slump slump' comments about Flash. Flash would still trash 99% of sc2 players everytime but the fact that he has bad form is a testament to the skill level of the game, especially in Korea. but it's "Flash loses to Dark, derp slump slump". There are like 3 posts saying that FlaSh is disappointing and these don't even mention a slump, but w/e They also conveniently ignore his opponent. I'm not disappointed by Flash losing to Dark that much, and Dark even almost fucked that one up. Well this match was like, ok Expedition Lost is gone and whatever happens there is still Stats/Zest/Life to cover up. No  I still had faith, thought Flash had something good prepared, thought there may be a reason he is sent in a Zerg map. Instead I saw Flash lose to Dark's trademark corruptors which make me think he didn't prepare well at all.
He didn't lose at all to Corruptors, the game was extremely close and basically decided by a few clicks in the heat of battle. There was nothing wrong with his preparation, his early game went well
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On April 20 2015 21:16 Exstasy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:56 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:52 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:50 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:46 GumBa wrote:
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Nobody did that though. You just came out of nowhere insulted forum "dwellers". For example, go to earlier pages of this thread and see the 'slump slump' comments about Flash. Flash would still trash 99% of sc2 players everytime but the fact that he has bad form is a testament to the skill level of the game, especially in Korea. but it's "Flash loses to Dark, derp slump slump". ofc Flash would trash most sc2 players lol he is a pro. Doesnt change the fact that he has been incredibly mediocore to downright bad for a couple of months now and I am pretty sure that is a slump. So once again you arguement falls flat cause those people are actually correct. I dont even get where your point is in Flash would beat Forum users thats just dumb. that was not my point lol First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again. Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows.
Guess no football fan can ever criticise a player for playing bad in the premier league. Damn Falcao is so good.
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On April 20 2015 21:18 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:16 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:56 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:52 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:50 Exstasy wrote:
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For example, go to earlier pages of this thread and see the 'slump slump' comments about Flash. Flash would still trash 99% of sc2 players everytime but the fact that he has bad form is a testament to the skill level of the game, especially in Korea. but it's "Flash loses to Dark, derp slump slump". ofc Flash would trash most sc2 players lol he is a pro. Doesnt change the fact that he has been incredibly mediocore to downright bad for a couple of months now and I am pretty sure that is a slump. So once again you arguement falls flat cause those people are actually correct. I dont even get where your point is in Flash would beat Forum users thats just dumb. that was not my point lol First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again. Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows. Guess no football fan can ever criticise a player for playing bad in the premier league. Damn Falcao is so good.
the only correct opinion is that every team, every player and everything is amazing
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On April 20 2015 21:18 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:16 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:56 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:52 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:50 Exstasy wrote:
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For example, go to earlier pages of this thread and see the 'slump slump' comments about Flash. Flash would still trash 99% of sc2 players everytime but the fact that he has bad form is a testament to the skill level of the game, especially in Korea. but it's "Flash loses to Dark, derp slump slump". ofc Flash would trash most sc2 players lol he is a pro. Doesnt change the fact that he has been incredibly mediocore to downright bad for a couple of months now and I am pretty sure that is a slump. So once again you arguement falls flat cause those people are actually correct. I dont even get where your point is in Flash would beat Forum users thats just dumb. that was not my point lol First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again. Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows. Guess no football fan can ever criticise a player for playing bad in the premier league. Damn Falcao is so good.
Well the Premier League sucks so that's to be expected. 
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On April 20 2015 21:16 Exstasy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:56 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:52 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:50 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:46 GumBa wrote:
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Nobody did that though. You just came out of nowhere insulted forum "dwellers". For example, go to earlier pages of this thread and see the 'slump slump' comments about Flash. Flash would still trash 99% of sc2 players everytime but the fact that he has bad form is a testament to the skill level of the game, especially in Korea. but it's "Flash loses to Dark, derp slump slump". ofc Flash would trash most sc2 players lol he is a pro. Doesnt change the fact that he has been incredibly mediocore to downright bad for a couple of months now and I am pretty sure that is a slump. So once again you arguement falls flat cause those people are actually correct. I dont even get where your point is in Flash would beat Forum users thats just dumb. that was not my point lol First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again. Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows.
Dude.
What benefit is there to claiming a movie is mediocre? Countless hours have been spent making it, and you compare it to other top-tier movies.
What benefit is there to claiming a song is mediocre? The artist probably put all his efforts and heart to make it, and you compare it to a very talented competition.
What benefit is there to claiming a politician is mediocre? He's running against a very hard competition.
What benefit is there to claiming that anything is mediocre, if you wanna go that way?
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On April 20 2015 21:19 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:18 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:16 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:56 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:52 GumBa wrote:
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ofc Flash would trash most sc2 players lol he is a pro. Doesnt change the fact that he has been incredibly mediocore to downright bad for a couple of months now and I am pretty sure that is a slump. So once again you arguement falls flat cause those people are actually correct. I dont even get where your point is in Flash would beat Forum users thats just dumb. that was not my point lol First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again. Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows. Guess no football fan can ever criticise a player for playing bad in the premier league. Damn Falcao is so good. Well the Premier League sucks so that's to be expected.
BvB is playing so great man BL too hard dude.
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On April 20 2015 21:18 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:16 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:56 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:52 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:50 Exstasy wrote:
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For example, go to earlier pages of this thread and see the 'slump slump' comments about Flash. Flash would still trash 99% of sc2 players everytime but the fact that he has bad form is a testament to the skill level of the game, especially in Korea. but it's "Flash loses to Dark, derp slump slump". ofc Flash would trash most sc2 players lol he is a pro. Doesnt change the fact that he has been incredibly mediocore to downright bad for a couple of months now and I am pretty sure that is a slump. So once again you arguement falls flat cause those people are actually correct. I dont even get where your point is in Flash would beat Forum users thats just dumb. that was not my point lol First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again. Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows. Guess no football fan can ever criticise a player for playing bad in the premier league. Damn Falcao is so good.
No you see criticism is fair and often constructive or adds to discussion. If i looked at the number of games to goals of falcao and then made a judgement what does that add? It certainly would not tell the story of all of the football games.
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On April 20 2015 21:20 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:16 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:56 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:52 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:50 Exstasy wrote:
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For example, go to earlier pages of this thread and see the 'slump slump' comments about Flash. Flash would still trash 99% of sc2 players everytime but the fact that he has bad form is a testament to the skill level of the game, especially in Korea. but it's "Flash loses to Dark, derp slump slump". ofc Flash would trash most sc2 players lol he is a pro. Doesnt change the fact that he has been incredibly mediocore to downright bad for a couple of months now and I am pretty sure that is a slump. So once again you arguement falls flat cause those people are actually correct. I dont even get where your point is in Flash would beat Forum users thats just dumb. that was not my point lol First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again. Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows. Dude. What benefit is there to claiming a movie is mediocre? Countless hours have been spent making it, and you compare it to other top-tier movies. What benefit is there to claiming a song is mediocre? The artist probably put all his efforts and heart to make it, and you compare it to a very talented competition. What benefit it there to claiming that anything is mediocre, if you wanna go that way?
If nothing is medicore and everything is great how can you tell if something is actually great if everyting is great?
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On April 20 2015 21:20 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:19 Elentos wrote:On April 20 2015 21:18 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:16 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:56 Exstasy wrote:
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that was not my point lol First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again. Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows. Guess no football fan can ever criticise a player for playing bad in the premier league. Damn Falcao is so good. Well the Premier League sucks so that's to be expected. BvB is playing so great man BL too hard dude.
Dortmund is just a bunch of scrubs anyways. Slumping harder than INnoVation.
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On April 20 2015 21:21 Exstasy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:18 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:16 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:56 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:52 GumBa wrote:
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ofc Flash would trash most sc2 players lol he is a pro. Doesnt change the fact that he has been incredibly mediocore to downright bad for a couple of months now and I am pretty sure that is a slump. So once again you arguement falls flat cause those people are actually correct. I dont even get where your point is in Flash would beat Forum users thats just dumb. that was not my point lol First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again. Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows. Guess no football fan can ever criticise a player for playing bad in the premier league. Damn Falcao is so good. No you see criticism is fair and often constructive or adds to discussion. If i looked at the number of games to goals of falcao and then made a judgement what does that add? It certainly would not tell the story of all of the football games.
Falcao is fucking awful though
on a more serious note things like this kind of piss me off, this is a game , a spectator sport where you have fans who are passionate and will like or dislike players.
it doesn't have to be "objective" you can have an opinion of why a player is the best player ever or why one is awful and that is absolutely fine. It would be so boring if people just said "well I mean he is a better player than me so I am not allowed to criticise"
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On April 20 2015 21:20 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:16 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:56 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:52 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:50 Exstasy wrote:
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For example, go to earlier pages of this thread and see the 'slump slump' comments about Flash. Flash would still trash 99% of sc2 players everytime but the fact that he has bad form is a testament to the skill level of the game, especially in Korea. but it's "Flash loses to Dark, derp slump slump". ofc Flash would trash most sc2 players lol he is a pro. Doesnt change the fact that he has been incredibly mediocore to downright bad for a couple of months now and I am pretty sure that is a slump. So once again you arguement falls flat cause those people are actually correct. I dont even get where your point is in Flash would beat Forum users thats just dumb. that was not my point lol First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again. Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows. Dude. What benefit is there to claiming a movie is mediocre? Countless hours have been spent making it, and you compare it to other top-tier movies. What benefit is there to claiming a song is mediocre? The artist probably put all his efforts and heart to make it, and you compare it to a very talented competition. What benefit is there to claiming a politician is mediocre? He's running against a very hard competition. What benefit it there to claiming that anything is mediocre, if you wanna go that way?
We go full circle now, are you saying foreigners can't be considered good when we compare them to proplayers only?
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On April 20 2015 21:21 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:21 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:18 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:16 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:56 Exstasy wrote:
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that was not my point lol First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again. Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows. Guess no football fan can ever criticise a player for playing bad in the premier league. Damn Falcao is so good. No you see criticism is fair and often constructive or adds to discussion. If i looked at the number of games to goals of falcao and then made a judgement what does that add? It certainly would not tell the story of all of the football games. Falcao is fucking awful though
Not possible. Even though he has a crap record and plays like crap he CANNOT POSSIBLY BE BAD.
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On April 20 2015 21:21 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:20 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2015 21:16 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:56 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:52 GumBa wrote:
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ofc Flash would trash most sc2 players lol he is a pro. Doesnt change the fact that he has been incredibly mediocore to downright bad for a couple of months now and I am pretty sure that is a slump. So once again you arguement falls flat cause those people are actually correct. I dont even get where your point is in Flash would beat Forum users thats just dumb. that was not my point lol First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again. Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows. Dude. What benefit is there to claiming a movie is mediocre? Countless hours have been spent making it, and you compare it to other top-tier movies. What benefit is there to claiming a song is mediocre? The artist probably put all his efforts and heart to make it, and you compare it to a very talented competition. What benefit it there to claiming that anything is mediocre, if you wanna go that way? If nothing is medicore and everything is great how can you tell if something is actually great if everyting is great?
That's how the reasoning ends, yeah :D
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Also can we get swag_bro in here to confirm that INnoVation sucks, Classic is a Bubbletoss and Stats is the one true god of Starcraft?
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On April 20 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:20 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:19 Elentos wrote:On April 20 2015 21:18 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:16 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:
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First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again.
Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows. Guess no football fan can ever criticise a player for playing bad in the premier league. Damn Falcao is so good. Well the Premier League sucks so that's to be expected. BvB is playing so great man BL too hard dude. Dortmund is just a bunch of scrubs anyways. Slumping harder than INnoVation.
Are you a Schalke fan by any chance?
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On April 20 2015 21:20 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:19 Elentos wrote:On April 20 2015 21:18 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:16 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 21:10 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On April 20 2015 21:03 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 21:01 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:56 Exstasy wrote:
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that was not my point lol First you reply to a post about Inno with lol forum dwellers are dumb slump slump we prove you wrong then you take another specific post about Flash and you are wrong again. Then why even mention it in your point. lol you think saying someone is wrong makes them wrong. Whatever happened to subjectivity Answer the point why even mention Flash can beat normal forum "dwellers". And please argue how Flash hasn't been slumping and playing mediocore. Every player is good, there is no mediocrity and slumps are an invention of the Illuminati He isn't agrueing his own views lol wtf Because when I mentioned Forum dwellers I was saying what benefit is there to claiming a pro player is mediocre? They're mediocre when playing in the hardest sc2 leagues against other very high level players often in bo1's. Form ebbs and flows. Guess no football fan can ever criticise a player for playing bad in the premier league. Damn Falcao is so good. Well the Premier League sucks so that's to be expected. BvB is playing so great man BL too hard dude.
Fear the might of Paderborn!
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On April 20 2015 21:22 Elentos wrote:
Also can we get swag_bro in here to confirm that INnoVation sucks, Classic is a Bubbletoss and Stats is the one true god of Starcraft?
he already confirmed it
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