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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
January 11 2015 17:41 GMT
#421
On January 12 2015 02:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 02:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:36 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:33 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Of course nothing is final, of course a lot of things will be tweaked, but I see no sign here that LotV will be the "far better and more entertaining than HotS" game everybody is trying to sell.

Tbh if you saw a tournament played with WoL or HotS alpha I'm pretty sure you would be thinking "wtf is that terrible game" too. Yet you're playing HotS now.


yeah I'm playing HotS but I still feel like barely anything HotS added was good for the game in the end : medivac speed turned TvT into a travesty of what it used to be (and forced the msc to exist), mothership core/tempest/oracle well should I say anything more, widow mine are random and needed so much rebalancing it tells of the problem they were, and muta regen swarm hosts are like the worst things that ever happened to SCII. Maybe viper was OK, ultra/phoenix/infestor changes were needed and good. But overall I'm not convinced HotS was as great as a step forward it should have been.

widow mines are not random at all. Widow mines were a very good change imo


OK widow mines aren't just random, but take back muta regen and widow mines aren't needed anymore and the game is better.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 11 2015 17:42 GMT
#422
On January 12 2015 02:39 TheDwf wrote:
In other news, almost 30k viewers :o


we broke 30k already , but 2k left in the break
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 11 2015 17:42 GMT
#423
On January 12 2015 02:37 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 02:36 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:33 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Of course nothing is final, of course a lot of things will be tweaked, but I see no sign here that LotV will be the "far better and more entertaining than HotS" game everybody is trying to sell.

Tbh if you saw a tournament played with WoL or HotS alpha I'm pretty sure you would be thinking "wtf is that terrible game" too. Yet you're playing HotS now.

Of course the games will look dumb and all since no one knows how to play, but the concepts don't give me much hope

I dunno, the idea of a Zerg unit that morphs from the Roach and can control space is pretty cool to me, as is the idea of making Corruptors actually decent, just like the SH change + lurker addition, just like a Protoss AoE unit that can actually be microed looks good. Terran additions sucks though.
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DuduSC
Profile Joined May 2014
Afghanistan193 Posts
January 11 2015 17:42 GMT
#424
On January 12 2015 02:36 Spect8rCraft wrote:
What's the DPS on the ravager's standard?


About 12.3. It doesnt look high considering the cost (100/100 total)
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 11 2015 17:43 GMT
#425
On January 12 2015 02:36 Spect8rCraft wrote:
What's the DPS on the ravager's standard?

16 damage every 1.3 second = 12.3 dps (+54% compared with a Roach)
Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
January 11 2015 17:45 GMT
#426
On January 12 2015 02:43 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 02:36 Spect8rCraft wrote:
What's the DPS on the ravager's standard?

16 damage every 1.3 second = 12.3 dps (+54% compared with a Roach)


On January 12 2015 02:42 DuduSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 02:36 Spect8rCraft wrote:
What's the DPS on the ravager's standard?


About 12.3. It doesnt look high considering the cost (100/100 total)


Hmm... Seems a little high given its additional abilities. Maybe toning it down to 10 or so would push it back to a more support/control role?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 11 2015 17:45 GMT
#427
On January 12 2015 02:42 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 02:37 TheDwf wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:36 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:33 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Of course nothing is final, of course a lot of things will be tweaked, but I see no sign here that LotV will be the "far better and more entertaining than HotS" game everybody is trying to sell.

Tbh if you saw a tournament played with WoL or HotS alpha I'm pretty sure you would be thinking "wtf is that terrible game" too. Yet you're playing HotS now.

Of course the games will look dumb and all since no one knows how to play, but the concepts don't give me much hope

I dunno, the idea of a Zerg unit that morphs from the Roach and can control space is pretty cool to me, as is the idea of making Corruptors actually decent, just like the SH change + lurker addition, just like a Protoss AoE unit that can actually be microed looks good. Terran additions sucks though.

The Zerg changes indeed seem the best
DuduSC
Profile Joined May 2014
Afghanistan193 Posts
January 11 2015 17:45 GMT
#428
Fleet beacon ;D

At least Crank is getting warpgate this time haha
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
January 11 2015 17:46 GMT
#429
Fleet beacon yeeeah
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
January 11 2015 17:46 GMT
#430
oracles still not fixed...
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
January 11 2015 17:46 GMT
#431
Someone tell TB to make a new "power of Axiom Protoss" apology video.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 11 2015 17:47 GMT
#432
It feels so wrong to see early game Terran units with more hit points than Protoss ones
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-11 17:48:00
January 11 2015 17:47 GMT
#433
Late starport, Heart pretty much lost now

and he did
Neosteel Enthusiast
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-11 17:48:39
January 11 2015 17:48 GMT
#434
Tempest speed seems to be an issue as well as (if not more than) disintegration.
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
January 11 2015 17:48 GMT
#435
im glad we can already play around with this lotv mod. i hope the beta etc will adjust a lot, because i dont like what i see.
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
January 11 2015 17:49 GMT
#436
On January 12 2015 02:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
im glad we can already play around with this lotv mod. i hope the beta etc will adjust a lot, because i dont like what i see.


Hopefully ! We still don't have any date for a closed beta do we ?
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2655 Posts
January 11 2015 17:49 GMT
#437
On January 12 2015 02:45 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 02:42 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:37 TheDwf wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:36 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:33 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Of course nothing is final, of course a lot of things will be tweaked, but I see no sign here that LotV will be the "far better and more entertaining than HotS" game everybody is trying to sell.

Tbh if you saw a tournament played with WoL or HotS alpha I'm pretty sure you would be thinking "wtf is that terrible game" too. Yet you're playing HotS now.

Of course the games will look dumb and all since no one knows how to play, but the concepts don't give me much hope

I dunno, the idea of a Zerg unit that morphs from the Roach and can control space is pretty cool to me, as is the idea of making Corruptors actually decent, just like the SH change + lurker addition, just like a Protoss AoE unit that can actually be microed looks good. Terran additions sucks though.

The Zerg changes indeed seem the best


I like the speed upgrade for the banshee, the tank pick up for medivac and the cyclone, they allow mech to be a more mobile aggressive force, right everything is all over the place of course but mech looks much better than in HotS.

I have no idea what they want with the HERC tho
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
January 11 2015 17:50 GMT
#438
On January 12 2015 02:45 Spect8rCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 02:43 TheDwf wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:36 Spect8rCraft wrote:
What's the DPS on the ravager's standard?

16 damage every 1.3 second = 12.3 dps (+54% compared with a Roach)


Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 02:42 DuduSC wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:36 Spect8rCraft wrote:
What's the DPS on the ravager's standard?


About 12.3. It doesnt look high considering the cost (100/100 total)


Hmm... Seems a little high given its additional abilities. Maybe toning it down to 10 or so would push it back to a more support/control role?

I kind of like how it fires faster, but it definitely needs some sort of role tweaking. I'd like to see it optimized against either light or armored units.
"I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
January 11 2015 17:51 GMT
#439
On January 12 2015 02:49 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 02:45 TheDwf wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:42 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:37 TheDwf wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:36 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:33 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Of course nothing is final, of course a lot of things will be tweaked, but I see no sign here that LotV will be the "far better and more entertaining than HotS" game everybody is trying to sell.

Tbh if you saw a tournament played with WoL or HotS alpha I'm pretty sure you would be thinking "wtf is that terrible game" too. Yet you're playing HotS now.

Of course the games will look dumb and all since no one knows how to play, but the concepts don't give me much hope

I dunno, the idea of a Zerg unit that morphs from the Roach and can control space is pretty cool to me, as is the idea of making Corruptors actually decent, just like the SH change + lurker addition, just like a Protoss AoE unit that can actually be microed looks good. Terran additions sucks though.

The Zerg changes indeed seem the best


I like the speed upgrade for the banshee, the tank pick up for medivac and the cyclone, they allow mech to be a more mobile aggressive force, right everything is all over the place of course but mech looks much better than in HotS.

I have no idea what they want with the HERC tho


They just want to add a new unit, i don't see any other reason for Herc, and even Cyclone feels a bit weird
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
January 11 2015 17:51 GMT
#440
On January 12 2015 02:49 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 02:45 TheDwf wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:42 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:37 TheDwf wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:36 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:33 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Of course nothing is final, of course a lot of things will be tweaked, but I see no sign here that LotV will be the "far better and more entertaining than HotS" game everybody is trying to sell.

Tbh if you saw a tournament played with WoL or HotS alpha I'm pretty sure you would be thinking "wtf is that terrible game" too. Yet you're playing HotS now.

Of course the games will look dumb and all since no one knows how to play, but the concepts don't give me much hope

I dunno, the idea of a Zerg unit that morphs from the Roach and can control space is pretty cool to me, as is the idea of making Corruptors actually decent, just like the SH change + lurker addition, just like a Protoss AoE unit that can actually be microed looks good. Terran additions sucks though.

The Zerg changes indeed seem the best


I like the speed upgrade for the banshee, the tank pick up for medivac and the cyclone, they allow mech to be a more mobile aggressive force, right everything is all over the place of course but mech looks much better than in HotS.

I have no idea what they want with the HERC tho


Sieged tanks pick ups are worse than colossi, it's power and mobility with no downside at all.
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