EPT[S2SL] S1 2015 - Challenge Day 5 - Page 11
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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TeHa
New Zealand68 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
Poll: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 3? ★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) ★★★- Good game (0) ★★★★- Highly recommended game (9) ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5) 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what | ||
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yoshi245
United States2971 Posts
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:45 Lunareste wrote: I meant 2/2 on the bio, not the mech. but thanks =) Ah, yeah he was about halfway(ish) done with 3/3 at the end. I def remember seeing the red bio upgrade icons on the production tab at one point | ||
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dazed25
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:40 Lunareste wrote: Did anyone catch Bbyong's gas count throughout that game? herO's army control was insanely good, but I'm just wondering if there's enough gas as a 3 base Terran to make enough Tanks and Vikings to make a strat like that work AND have even closer upgrades. I know Bbyong's upgrades were a bit late due to the late armory, but did he reach 2/2 at any point in that game? he was 2/2 right before he lost his 4th. | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
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Baadbeat
France203 Posts
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:47 vult wrote: The overhype is real? Game 2 was much better. Siege Tanks just won a game in TvP. In g2, Siege Tanks did not win a game in TvP. | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
 so tired after Christmas festivities. GL to Yonghwa and MarineKing later.Night guys <3 | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:48 Baadbeat wrote: Revers all sweep Bbyong? I liked his use of tanks way better in this game than the one before. He shouldn't make too many tanks but having 2-3 early game is great imo. It seems suuuuuuuper map dependent. Like, Deadwing has a lot of pretty decent siege spots, and overgrowth obviously has that siege up on the nat. I'm sure the other maps have one or two decent spots too but it definitely does not seem like something you want to be doing on every map. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:47 vult wrote: The overhype is real? Game 2 was much better. I don't know, I really liked how crazy that game was. Bbyong's great defense against the blink stalkers, the individual unit control from herO, the basetradey situations. It was really action packed and exciting in my eyes. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:49 KrazyTrumpet wrote: It seems suuuuuuuper map dependent. Like, Deadwing has a lot of pretty decent siege spots, and overgrowth obviously has that siege up on the nat. I'm sure the other maps have one or two decent spots too but it definitely does not seem like something you want to be doing on every map. Tanks are definitely a unit whose effectiveness depends on the map and where they are actually placed, much more than most other units. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:46 stuchiu wrote: One of the many many fundamental problems with tanks is that they're movement speed is slow. Which is fine if you're playing mech or you can set up positions if you have positional advantage, but in skirmish PvT what essentially happens is you have 4 sets of units with 4 different movement speeds. You have the bio/bio on stim, medivacs, vikings and tanks. Theoretically a player could be able to set them up on 4 hot keys to perfectly micro each unit, but in practice (like most players) set it up on one hotkey then use the mouse to control individuals sets of units. So by including tanks into your comp microing an already hard to micro army just gets that much harder. Combined with the tanks brittleness, lack of mobility, gas cost, supply count and need to target fire on collosus just makes tank comps not worth the effort for most players. Additionally going bio tank is very anti-synergistic. The upgrades are split, the medivacs don't help the tanks during big battles, the bio wants to kite back while the tanks want the bio to hold the line and buffer, allowing them to shell the opponent. Getting good compositions and engagement is very difficult and sometimes not possible. Tank play will only really be possible against Protoss if Terran gets a unit that results in Protoss wanting to kite back and maintain range as well as buffering for tanks. I think such a unit would break bio though. | ||
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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