EPTOn December 26 2014 16:34 vult wrote:
herO's stalker target fire on air units is mind blowing, so sexy.
herO's stalker target fire on air units is mind blowing, so sexy.
All of his army control in that game was seriously on point, damn
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
All of his army control in that game was seriously on point, damn | ||
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meshfusion
Russian Federation232 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Poll: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 2? ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) ★★★- Good game (0) ★★★★- Highly recommended game (12) ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:35 stuchiu wrote: tanks still bad. It's not even that the tanks were bad. Bbyong never had enough air to counter colossus because herO kept sniping medivacs and vikings with the stalkers before blinking back. I really want to go back and watch that game and analyze it more. He killed 4 vikings with 6 stalkers while under fire by marauders and saved 4 of them by blinking back. It was actually immaculate. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:32 Circumstance wrote: Is there such a thing? Zerg is all part of a single collective, Terran is seemingly only military, and Probes aren't living beings. Unless LotV adds ambient critters that are civilians, no. Plenty of civilians probably end up as collateral damage in the campaign though. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:35 stuchiu wrote: tanks still bad. even the sniff of mech in tvp means you lose. We clearly need bw tvp to be brought back | ||
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Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
herO's army control was insanely good, but I'm just wondering if there's enough gas as a 3 base Terran to make enough Tanks and Vikings to make a strat like that work AND have even closer upgrades. I know Bbyong's upgrades were a bit late due to the late armory, but did he reach 2/2 at any point in that game? | ||
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Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:38 Noonius wrote: even the sniff of mech in tvp means you lose. We clearly need bw tvp to be brought back Just bring back the fucking Vulture/Spider Mine already Blizzard, please. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:38 vult wrote: It's not even that the tanks were bad. Bbyong never had enough air to counter colossus because herO kept sniping medivacs and vikings with the stalkers before blinking back. I really want to go back and watch that game and analyze it more. He killed 4 vikings with 6 stalkers while under fire by marauders and saved 4 of them by blinking back. It was actually immaculate. I think the insufficient air is an indirect consequence of building a bio-tank army. Balancing the numbers of bio as buffer, the amount of medivacs, the amount of tanks, and the number of vikings is very difficult. Also tanks aren't particularly good against any protoss unit really. | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:40 Lunareste wrote: Did anyone catch Bbyong's gas count throughout that game? herO's army control was insanely good, but I'm just wondering if there's enough gas as a 3 base Terran to make enough Tanks and Vikings to make a strat like that work AND have even closer upgrades. I know Bbyong's upgrades were a bit late due to the late armory, but did he reach 2/2 at any point in that game? I'm pretty sure he was still just 1/0 on his vehicle upgrades, even there at the end. | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:40 Lunareste wrote: Did anyone catch Bbyong's gas count throughout that game? herO's army control was insanely good, but I'm just wondering if there's enough gas as a 3 base Terran to make enough Tanks and Vikings to make a strat like that work AND have even closer upgrades. I know Bbyong's upgrades were a bit late due to the late armory, but did he reach 2/2 at any point in that game? I don't think he ever got 2/2, but if you're able to maintain your medivac count and not lose vikings you can afford it, but its reallllly hard. | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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New Zealand15076 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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jubil
United States2602 Posts
and then the "he's killing so many probes with the autoturrets, he might get the achievement" wolf killin it | ||
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Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:42 KrazyTrumpet wrote: I'm pretty sure he was still just 1/0 on his vehicle upgrades, even there at the end. I meant 2/2 on the bio, not the mech. but thanks =) | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:43 NeThZOR wrote: Now he goes for that same bio tank comp I don't think its bad if you go for an all-in or a very heavy push with this. Its the transition from it and the resulting midgame that's iffy. | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 26 2014 16:38 vult wrote: It's not even that the tanks were bad. Bbyong never had enough air to counter colossus because herO kept sniping medivacs and vikings with the stalkers before blinking back. I really want to go back and watch that game and analyze it more. He killed 4 vikings with 6 stalkers while under fire by marauders and saved 4 of them by blinking back. It was actually immaculate. One of the many many fundamental problems with tanks is that they're movement speed is slow. Which is fine if you're playing mech or you can set up positions if you have positional advantage, but in skirmish PvT what essentially happens is you have 4 sets of units with 4 different movement speeds. You have the bio/bio on stim, medivacs, vikings and tanks. Theoretically a player could be able to set them up on 4 hot keys to perfectly micro each unit, but in practice (like most players) set it up on one hotkey then use the mouse to control individuals sets of units. So by including tanks into your comp microing an already hard to micro army just gets that much harder. Combined with the tanks brittleness, lack of mobility, gas cost, supply count and need to target fire on collosus just makes tank comps not worth the effort for most players. | ||
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