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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7tYsgd4.png) Friday, Dec 26 6:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_StarCraft_II_StarLeague_Season_1/Challenge TL Preview:
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Super vs ByuL Game 1
Super vs ByuL Game 2
Super vs ByuL Game 3
Super vs ByuL Game 4
Super vs ByuL Game 5
herO vs Bbyong Game 1
herO vs Bbyong Game 2
herO vs Bbyong Game 3
herO vs Bbyong Game 4
herO vs Bbyong Game 5
YongHwa vs Leenock Game 1
YongHwa vs Leenock Game 2
YongHwa vs Leenock Game 3
YongHwa vs Leenock Game 4
YongHwa vs Leenock Game 5
FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 1
FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 2
FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 3
FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 4
FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 5
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3wcCS.png) + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [Super vs ByuL] +Poll: Recommend Super vs ByuL Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 100% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Super vs ByuL Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Super vs ByuL Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 17% ★★★- Good game (4) 67% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 17% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Super vs ByuL Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Super vs ByuL Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 25% ★★★- Good game (2) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 25% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Super vs ByuL Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Super vs ByuL Game 4?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 20% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 20% ★★★- Good game (1) 20% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 40% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Super vs ByuL Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Super vs ByuL Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (2) 33% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 50% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Super vs ByuL Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 80% ★★★- Good game (1) 20% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (12) 100% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 7% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (9) 60% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5) 33% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 4?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 40% ★★★- Good game (3) 30% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 30% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 14% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 57% ★★★- Good game (1) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (2) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (10) 71% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 14% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (2) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (12) 86% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (2) 13% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (7) 47% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (6) 40% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 4?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (3) 43% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 43% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 13% ★★★- Good game (6) 75% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 13% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 14% ★★★- Good game (8) 57% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 21% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 7% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 6% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 6% ★★★- Good game (1) 6% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (13) 72% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 11% 18 total votes Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 11% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5) 56% ★★★- Good game (2) 22% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 11% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 4?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 13% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (4) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 25% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 13% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 10% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (5) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 30% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Poll: Head?ByuL (22) 81% Super (5) 19% 27 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Super
(Vote): ByuL
Poll: Heart?ByuL (19) 76% Super (6) 24% 25 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): Super
(Vote): ByuL
Poll: Head?herO (18) 72% Bbyong (7) 28% 25 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): herO
(Vote): Bbyong
Poll: Heart?Seriously, another CJ teamkill? (14) 48% herO (9) 31% Bbyong (6) 21% 29 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): herO
(Vote): Bbyong
(Vote): Seriously, another CJ teamkill?
Poll: Head?Leenock (16) 59% Yonghwa (11) 41% 27 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Yonghwa
(Vote): Leenock
Poll: Heart?Leenock (23) 72% Yonghwa (9) 28% 32 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): Yonghwa
(Vote): Leenock
Poll: Head?MarineKing (22) 61% FanTaSy (14) 39% 36 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): FanTaSy
(Vote): MarineKing
Poll: Heart?FanTaSy (29) 56% MarineKing (23) 44% 52 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): FanTaSy
(Vote): MarineKing
WCS Predictor 2015
StarLeague Season 1 Day 5Chances During This Tournament (Sim #1130 to #1139) + Show Spoiler [Changes During This Tournament] +Also includes the setting of the GSL Ro32 groups. Biggest Winners  Rogue went up by 26.47%, going from 28.2% to 54.67%  Dream went up by 25.06%, going from 13.34% to 38.41% Dark went up by 23.04%, going from 20.44% to 43.48%  Terminator went up by 20.52%, going from 14.8% to 35.32% Dear went up by 19.77%, going from 43.96% to 63.73% Life went up by 16.23%, going from 56.07% to 72.31% TY went up by 16.07%, going from 52.25% to 68.33%+ Show Spoiler [More Winners] + Stats went up by 14.92%, going from 18.3% to 33.22% GuMiho went up by 12.21%, going from 66.99% to 79.2% Maru went up by 10.77%, going from 50.45% to 61.22% Classic went up by 7.56%, going from 9.99% to 17.56% MyuNgSiK went up by 7.31%, going from 5.64% to 12.95% FanTaSy went up by 5.14%, going from 9.99% to 15.13% Hydra went up by 3.79%, going from 10.82% to 14.62% Rain went up by 3.69%, going from 65.08% to 68.77% Hitman went up by 1.63%, going from 0.4% to 2.04% VortiX went up by 1.2%, going from 10.44% to 11.64% Polt went up by 0.85%, going from 23.29% to 24.14% Snute went up by 0.72%, going from 10.99% to 11.7% Hurricane went up by 0.7%, going from 1.49% to 2.19% MC went up by 0.62%, going from 7.35% to 7.97% Top went up by 0.61%, going from 3.5% to 4.11% Nerchio went up by 0.61%, going from 7.64% to 8.25% SuperNova went up by 0.34%, going from 0.63% to 0.97% Happy went up by 0.26%, going from 8.8% to 9.07% souL went up by 0.26%, going from 0.01% to 0.27% Xenocider went up by 0.25%, going from 0.01% to 0.25% Dayshi went up by 0.2%, going from 2.07% to 2.27% MaSa went up by 0.18%, going from 8.39% to 8.57% Strelok went up by 0.18%, going from 1.1% to 1.28% Armani went up by 0.17%, going from 0.17% to 0.34% XiGua went up by 0.16%, going from 2.31% to 2.47% Revival went up by 0.16%, going from 0.59% to 0.74% sOs went up by 0.14%, going from 25.64% to 25.78% Complain went up by 0.11%, going from 0.09% to 0.2% eMotion went up by 0.11%, going from 0.29% to 0.39% went down by 24.16%, going from 72.12% to 47.96% Solar went down by 23.07%, going from 56.4% to 33.34% INnoVation went down by 21.08%, going from 66.74% to 45.67% Soulkey went down by 20.36%, going from 37.21% to 16.85% PartinG went down by 19.54%, going from 77.08% to 57.53% San went down by 18.93%, going from 40.47% to 21.54% Flash went down by 18.62%, going from 24.92% to 6.3%+ Show Spoiler [More Losers] + Cure went down by 12.1%, going from 19.61% to 7.51% Scarlett went down by 11.23%, going from 18.76% to 7.54% Jim went down by 4.26%, going from 11.27% to 7.01% Patience went down by 3.07%, going from 5.06% to 1.99% MarineKing went down by 2.92%, going from 28.77% to 25.85% MMA went down by 2.38%, going from 28.5% to 26.13% Bomber went down by 2.17%, going from 40.82% to 38.65% viOLet went down by 2.08%, going from 12.08% to 10.01% YoDa went down by 2.07%, going from 23.86% to 21.79% Super went down by 2.02%, going from 30.6% to 28.58% sKyHigh went down by 1.99%, going from 3.07% to 1.08% ByuL went down by 1.95%, going from 10.33% to 8.38% herO went down by 1.82%, going from 84.31% to 82.48% Lilbow went down by 1.59%, going from 10.26% to 8.67% ForGG went down by 1.54%, going from 37.05% to 35.5% Curious went down by 1.46%, going from 4.37% to 2.9% YongHwa went down by 1.44%, going from 8.26% to 6.81% Zest went down by 1.37%, going from 17.63% to 16.26% Heart went down by 1.31%, going from 5.37% to 4.06% Sacsri went down by 1.23%, going from 4.69% to 3.46% Bunny went down by 1.05%, going from 6.73% to 5.67% KingKong went down by 0.96%, going from 2.61% to 1.65% Hack went down by 0.92%, going from 5.31% to 4.39% ShoWTimE went down by 0.7%, going from 4.99% to 4.29% jjakji went down by 0.64%, going from 5.03% to 4.39% Jaedong went down by 0.64%, going from 7.59% to 6.96% HuK went down by 0.51%, going from 3.93% to 3.43% MajOr went down by 0.45%, going from 20.2% to 19.75% uThermal went down by 0.38%, going from 3.18% to 2.8% soO went down by 0.38%, going from 5.01% to 4.63% Losira went down by 0.36%, going from 3.02% to 2.65%  Ourk went down by 0.31%, going from 6.68% to 6.36% iAsonu went down by 0.31%, going from 1.47% to 1.16% Elazer went down by 0.31%, going from 0.73% to 0.42% hendralisk went down by 0.28%, going from 0.78% to 0.5% Bly went down by 0.28%, going from 0.81% to 0.54% TLO went down by 0.27%, going from 1.77% to 1.5% MaNa went down by 0.27%, going from 4.34% to 4.07% sLivko went down by 0.25%, going from 0.98% to 0.72% Kas went down by 0.24%, going from 3.45% to 3.21% Illusion went down by 0.24%, going from 0.41% to 0.17% Kane went down by 0.23%, going from 3.12% to 2.89% DongRaeGu went down by 0.23%, going from 1.96% to 1.73% in StarLeague Season 1 round of 32. ByuL is at 8.38% Blizzcon Chances. 49.68% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 14.07%. 50.32% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 2.76%. Super is at 28.58% Blizzcon Chances. 50.32% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 39.96%. 49.68% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 17.06%. Bbyong vs herO in in StarLeague Season 1 round of 32. Bbyong is at 20.66% Blizzcon Chances. 41.76% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 35.36%. 58.24% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 10.12%. herO is at 82.48% Blizzcon Chances. 58.24% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 91.21%. 41.76% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 70.31%. YongHwa vs Leenock in in StarLeague Season 1 round of 32. YongHwa is at 6.81% Blizzcon Chances. 44.38% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 11.36%. 55.62% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 3.18%. Leenock is at 9.58% Blizzcon Chances. 55.62% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 14.81%. 44.38% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 3.02%. MarineKing vs FanTaSy in in StarLeague Season 1 round of 32. MarineKing is at 25.85% Blizzcon Chances. 47.22% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 36.92%. 52.78% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 15.95%. FanTaSy is at 15.13% Blizzcon Chances. 52.78% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 21.88%. 47.22% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 7.57%. StarLeague Season 1 Winning Chances in ~ GuMiho has a 12.98% chance to win ----going from 79.2% to 99.88% if they get 1st, or 96.55% if they get 2nd. Life has a 11.5% chance to win ----going from 72.31% to 99.46% if they get 1st, or 93.43% if they get 2nd. TY has a 9.61% chance to win ----going from 68.33% to 99.58% if they get 1st, or 93.19% if they get 2nd. Dear has a 8.79% chance to win ----going from 63.73% to 99.2% if they get 1st, or 91.15% if they get 2nd. Maru has a 8.59% chance to win ----going from 61.22% to 99.07% if they get 1st, or 89.69% if they get 2nd. + Show Spoiler [More Winning Chances] + herO has a 7.51% chance to win ----going from 82.48% to 99.99% if they get 1st, or 99.77% if they get 2nd. Stats has a 6.2% chance to win ----going from 33.22% to 94.99% if they get 1st, or 70.59% if they get 2nd. Rogue has a 6.14% chance to win ----going from 54.67% to 98.89% if they get 1st, or 87.92% if they get 2nd. Dark has a 4.66% chance to win ----going from 43.48% to 97.96% if they get 1st, or 81.96% if they get 2nd. Dream has a 4.2% chance to win ----going from 38.41% to 97.44% if they get 1st, or 78.39% if they get 2nd. Classic has a 3.69% chance to win ----going from 17.56% to 87.18% if they get 1st, or 52.39% if they get 2nd. Terminator has a 3.2% chance to win ----going from 35.32% to 98.11% if they get 1st, or 79.43% if they get 2nd. MyuNgSiK has a 2.7% chance to win ----going from 12.95% to 84.56% if they get 1st, or 46.94% if they get 2nd. Bbyong has a 2.52% chance to win ----going from 20.66% to 96.92% if they get 1st, or 74.52% if they get 2nd. Super has a 2.03% chance to win ----going from 28.58% to 98.36% if they get 1st, or 81.14% if they get 2nd. Leenock has a 1.66% chance to win ----going from 9.58% to 86.06% if they get 1st, or 48.62% if they get 2nd. ByuL has a 1.42% chance to win ----going from 8.38% to 85.03% if they get 1st, or 47.82% if they get 2nd. FanTaSy has a 1.06% chance to win ----going from 15.13% to 95.02% if they get 1st, or 66.27% if they get 2nd. MarineKing has a 1.03% chance to win ----going from 25.85% to 99.74% if they get 1st, or 87.16% if they get 2nd. YongHwa has a 0.52% chance to win ----going from 6.81% to 90.29% if they get 1st, or 50.25% if they get 2nd.
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And like his favorite player in this same tournament, Templar claims the first two and loses the next three to King.
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This might take a while, with the battle of gg timings in the end.
ByuL, herO, YH, Fanta!
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Super 0-3 ByuL
herO 3-2 Bbyong
YongHwa 1-3 Leenock
FanTaSy 3-2 MarineKing
Excited for the Zerg bros. Hoping Bbyong can make it, but even giving him 2 games might be a bit generous against herO. Fantasy narrowly edges out Marineking in a series that seemingly will never end.
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MarineKing Fantasy Byul herO OMG
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Oh nice matches tomorrow, to bad I won't be able to watch them. Y_Y
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Hoping for Super, Bbyong, Leenock, MKC
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herO vs Bbyong best serie so far.
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Predicting Byul, Bbyong, Leenock and Fantasy.
I'm goin' full killjoy! :D
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Leenock please don't break my heart
Poll: Which one is longer ?MKP vs Fantasy ? (5) 100% Firecake vs Avilo ? (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Which one is longer ? (Vote): Firecake vs Avilo ?
(Vote): MKP vs Fantasy ?
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On December 26 2014 03:10 showstealer1829 wrote:Fanta v MK(MV)P?  WHY DON'T YOU ASK ME TO CHOOSE BETWEEN MY NON-EXISTANT CHILDREN?
Choose the right side. MarineKing already had 2010-2012 for him. 2015 has to be the year of the Terrorist
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You got to win this Leenock!
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On December 26 2014 03:39 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 03:10 showstealer1829 wrote:Fanta v MK(MV)P? WHY DON'T YOU ASK ME TO CHOOSE BETWEEN MY NON-EXISTANT CHILDREN? Choose the right side. MarineKing already had 2010-2012 for him. 2015 has to be the year of the Terrorist
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WCS Predictor 2015
StarLeague Season 1 Day 5Chances During This Tournament (Sim #1130 to #1139) + Show Spoiler [Changes During This Tournament] +Also includes the setting of the GSL Ro32 groups. Biggest Winners Rogue went up by 26.47%, going from 28.2% to 54.67% Dream went up by 25.06%, going from 13.34% to 38.41% Dark went up by 23.04%, going from 20.44% to 43.48% Terminator went up by 20.52%, going from 14.8% to 35.32% Dear went up by 19.77%, going from 43.96% to 63.73% Life went up by 16.23%, going from 56.07% to 72.31% TY went up by 16.07%, going from 52.25% to 68.33%+ Show Spoiler [More Winners] + Stats went up by 14.92%, going from 18.3% to 33.22% GuMiho went up by 12.21%, going from 66.99% to 79.2% Maru went up by 10.77%, going from 50.45% to 61.22% Classic went up by 7.56%, going from 9.99% to 17.56% MyuNgSiK went up by 7.31%, going from 5.64% to 12.95% FanTaSy went up by 5.14%, going from 9.99% to 15.13% Hydra went up by 3.79%, going from 10.82% to 14.62% Rain went up by 3.69%, going from 65.08% to 68.77% Hitman went up by 1.63%, going from 0.4% to 2.04% VortiX went up by 1.2%, going from 10.44% to 11.64% Polt went up by 0.85%, going from 23.29% to 24.14% Snute went up by 0.72%, going from 10.99% to 11.7% Hurricane went up by 0.7%, going from 1.49% to 2.19% MC went up by 0.62%, going from 7.35% to 7.97% Top went up by 0.61%, going from 3.5% to 4.11% Nerchio went up by 0.61%, going from 7.64% to 8.25% SuperNova went up by 0.34%, going from 0.63% to 0.97% Happy went up by 0.26%, going from 8.8% to 9.07% souL went up by 0.26%, going from 0.01% to 0.27% Xenocider went up by 0.25%, going from 0.01% to 0.25% Dayshi went up by 0.2%, going from 2.07% to 2.27% MaSa went up by 0.18%, going from 8.39% to 8.57% Strelok went up by 0.18%, going from 1.1% to 1.28% Armani went up by 0.17%, going from 0.17% to 0.34% XiGua went up by 0.16%, going from 2.31% to 2.47% Revival went up by 0.16%, going from 0.59% to 0.74% sOs went up by 0.14%, going from 25.64% to 25.78% Complain went up by 0.11%, going from 0.09% to 0.2% eMotion went up by 0.11%, going from 0.29% to 0.39% went down by 24.16%, going from 72.12% to 47.96% Solar went down by 23.07%, going from 56.4% to 33.34% INnoVation went down by 21.08%, going from 66.74% to 45.67% Soulkey went down by 20.36%, going from 37.21% to 16.85% PartinG went down by 19.54%, going from 77.08% to 57.53% San went down by 18.93%, going from 40.47% to 21.54% Flash went down by 18.62%, going from 24.92% to 6.3%+ Show Spoiler [More Losers] + Cure went down by 12.1%, going from 19.61% to 7.51% Scarlett went down by 11.23%, going from 18.76% to 7.54% Jim went down by 4.26%, going from 11.27% to 7.01% Patience went down by 3.07%, going from 5.06% to 1.99% MarineKing went down by 2.92%, going from 28.77% to 25.85% MMA went down by 2.38%, going from 28.5% to 26.13% Bomber went down by 2.17%, going from 40.82% to 38.65% viOLet went down by 2.08%, going from 12.08% to 10.01% YoDa went down by 2.07%, going from 23.86% to 21.79% Super went down by 2.02%, going from 30.6% to 28.58% sKyHigh went down by 1.99%, going from 3.07% to 1.08% ByuL went down by 1.95%, going from 10.33% to 8.38% herO went down by 1.82%, going from 84.31% to 82.48% Lilbow went down by 1.59%, going from 10.26% to 8.67% ForGG went down by 1.54%, going from 37.05% to 35.5% Curious went down by 1.46%, going from 4.37% to 2.9% YongHwa went down by 1.44%, going from 8.26% to 6.81% Zest went down by 1.37%, going from 17.63% to 16.26% Heart went down by 1.31%, going from 5.37% to 4.06% Sacsri went down by 1.23%, going from 4.69% to 3.46% Bunny went down by 1.05%, going from 6.73% to 5.67% KingKong went down by 0.96%, going from 2.61% to 1.65% Hack went down by 0.92%, going from 5.31% to 4.39% ShoWTimE went down by 0.7%, going from 4.99% to 4.29% jjakji went down by 0.64%, going from 5.03% to 4.39% Jaedong went down by 0.64%, going from 7.59% to 6.96% HuK went down by 0.51%, going from 3.93% to 3.43% MajOr went down by 0.45%, going from 20.2% to 19.75% uThermal went down by 0.38%, going from 3.18% to 2.8% soO went down by 0.38%, going from 5.01% to 4.63% Losira went down by 0.36%, going from 3.02% to 2.65% Ourk went down by 0.31%, going from 6.68% to 6.36% iAsonu went down by 0.31%, going from 1.47% to 1.16% Elazer went down by 0.31%, going from 0.73% to 0.42% hendralisk went down by 0.28%, going from 0.78% to 0.5% Bly went down by 0.28%, going from 0.81% to 0.54% TLO went down by 0.27%, going from 1.77% to 1.5% MaNa went down by 0.27%, going from 4.34% to 4.07% sLivko went down by 0.25%, going from 0.98% to 0.72% Kas went down by 0.24%, going from 3.45% to 3.21% Illusion went down by 0.24%, going from 0.41% to 0.17% Kane went down by 0.23%, going from 3.12% to 2.89% DongRaeGu went down by 0.23%, going from 1.96% to 1.73% in StarLeague Season 1 round of 32. ByuL is at 8.38% Blizzcon Chances. 49.68% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 14.07%. 50.32% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 2.76%. Super is at 28.58% Blizzcon Chances. 50.32% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 39.96%. 49.68% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 17.06%. Bbyong vs herO in in StarLeague Season 1 round of 32. Bbyong is at 20.66% Blizzcon Chances. 41.76% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 35.36%. 58.24% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 10.12%. herO is at 82.48% Blizzcon Chances. 58.24% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 91.21%. 41.76% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 70.31%. YongHwa vs Leenock in in StarLeague Season 1 round of 32. YongHwa is at 6.81% Blizzcon Chances. 44.38% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 11.36%. 55.62% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 3.18%. Leenock is at 9.58% Blizzcon Chances. 55.62% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 14.81%. 44.38% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 3.02%. MarineKing vs FanTaSy in in StarLeague Season 1 round of 32. MarineKing is at 25.85% Blizzcon Chances. 47.22% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 36.92%. 52.78% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 15.95%. FanTaSy is at 15.13% Blizzcon Chances. 52.78% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 21.88%. 47.22% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 7.57%. StarLeague Season 1 Winning Chances in ~ GuMiho has a 12.98% chance to win ----going from 79.2% to 99.88% if they get 1st, or 96.55% if they get 2nd. Life has a 11.5% chance to win ----going from 72.31% to 99.46% if they get 1st, or 93.43% if they get 2nd. TY has a 9.61% chance to win ----going from 68.33% to 99.58% if they get 1st, or 93.19% if they get 2nd. Dear has a 8.79% chance to win ----going from 63.73% to 99.2% if they get 1st, or 91.15% if they get 2nd. Maru has a 8.59% chance to win ----going from 61.22% to 99.07% if they get 1st, or 89.69% if they get 2nd. + Show Spoiler [More Winning Chances] + herO has a 7.51% chance to win ----going from 82.48% to 99.99% if they get 1st, or 99.77% if they get 2nd. Stats has a 6.2% chance to win ----going from 33.22% to 94.99% if they get 1st, or 70.59% if they get 2nd. Rogue has a 6.14% chance to win ----going from 54.67% to 98.89% if they get 1st, or 87.92% if they get 2nd. Dark has a 4.66% chance to win ----going from 43.48% to 97.96% if they get 1st, or 81.96% if they get 2nd. Dream has a 4.2% chance to win ----going from 38.41% to 97.44% if they get 1st, or 78.39% if they get 2nd. Classic has a 3.69% chance to win ----going from 17.56% to 87.18% if they get 1st, or 52.39% if they get 2nd. Terminator has a 3.2% chance to win ----going from 35.32% to 98.11% if they get 1st, or 79.43% if they get 2nd. MyuNgSiK has a 2.7% chance to win ----going from 12.95% to 84.56% if they get 1st, or 46.94% if they get 2nd. Bbyong has a 2.52% chance to win ----going from 20.66% to 96.92% if they get 1st, or 74.52% if they get 2nd. Super has a 2.03% chance to win ----going from 28.58% to 98.36% if they get 1st, or 81.14% if they get 2nd. Leenock has a 1.66% chance to win ----going from 9.58% to 86.06% if they get 1st, or 48.62% if they get 2nd. ByuL has a 1.42% chance to win ----going from 8.38% to 85.03% if they get 1st, or 47.82% if they get 2nd. FanTaSy has a 1.06% chance to win ----going from 15.13% to 95.02% if they get 1st, or 66.27% if they get 2nd. MarineKing has a 1.03% chance to win ----going from 25.85% to 99.74% if they get 1st, or 87.16% if they get 2nd. YongHwa has a 0.52% chance to win ----going from 6.81% to 90.29% if they get 1st, or 50.25% if they get 2nd.
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ByuL > Super
Bbyong < herO
YongHwa < Leenock
MarineKing > FanTaSy
(and if both Zergs go through as I predict and hope, we get a pretty balanced ro16 by the way)
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Time for Bbyong to beat herO and take over as CJ's ace.
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I Bet:
Super 2-3 ByuL (could honestly see it going 3-2 or 3-1 in either's favor though...)
herO 2-3 Bbyong
YongHwa 3-1 Leenock
FanTaSy 3-1 MarineKing (maybe 3-2)
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Choosing between Fantasy and MKP is like Protoss choosing their all in.
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Starts in 6 hours and I stil haven't gone to bed yet.
It's your chance, American West Coast. Show your passion in this LR.
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On December 26 2014 07:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
ByuL > Super
Bbyong < herO
YongHwa < Leenock
MarineKing > FanTaSy
(and if both Zergs go through as I predict and hope, we get a pretty balanced ro16 by the way)
I'd say ByuL SHOULD go through. But YongHwa - Leenock can go either way, although I'd favour the Protoss here. YongHwa hasn't been too bad lately.
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MKP plays last so I guess I can sleep a little longer
gogo
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Argh, 5hrs - to sleep or not to sleep?
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damn I didn't think it would be that early, there's no way I can be awake for this one :/
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Oh it's way earlier today, awesome. Don't have to stay up late hoping for quick games now :D
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Wow, these are some really painful match-ups. Byul, Bbyong, really can't decide between Leenock and Yongwha, and Fantasy I guess :p
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SC2 these days soooooooooooo good. Kespa fully intergrate now
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Can I please get confirmation that the matches are indeed starting in an hour and a half? Last time this happened I stayed up and then wolf tweeted that he was somehow mistaken on the times.
Fool me once, etc.
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On December 26 2014 13:22 Megiddosc wrote:
Can I please get confirmation that the matches are indeed starting in an hour and a half? Last time this happened I stayed up and then wolf tweeted that he was somehow mistaken on the times.
Fool me once, etc.
It's happening four hours earlier because there's an extra best of five, it is starting in an hour and a half.
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On December 26 2014 13:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 13:22 Megiddosc wrote:
Can I please get confirmation that the matches are indeed starting in an hour and a half? Last time this happened I stayed up and then wolf tweeted that he was somehow mistaken on the times.
Fool me once, etc. It's happening four hours earlier because there's an extra best of five, it is starting in an hour and a half.
I guess they expect MarineKing vs FanTaSy will take 4 hours then?
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On December 26 2014 13:31 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 13:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On December 26 2014 13:22 Megiddosc wrote:
Can I please get confirmation that the matches are indeed starting in an hour and a half? Last time this happened I stayed up and then wolf tweeted that he was somehow mistaken on the times.
Fool me once, etc. It's happening four hours earlier because there's an extra best of five, it is starting in an hour and a half. I guess they expect MarineKing vs FanTaSy will take 4 hours then?
Oh god imagine the gg timings :/
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On December 26 2014 13:33 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 13:31 The_Templar wrote:On December 26 2014 13:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On December 26 2014 13:22 Megiddosc wrote:
Can I please get confirmation that the matches are indeed starting in an hour and a half? Last time this happened I stayed up and then wolf tweeted that he was somehow mistaken on the times.
Fool me once, etc. It's happening four hours earlier because there's an extra best of five, it is starting in an hour and a half. I guess they expect MarineKing vs FanTaSy will take 4 hours then? Oh god imagine the gg timings :/
Gonna make a bold prediction here. There will be at least 3 appropriately timed GGs in that series.
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On December 26 2014 03:39 Philozovic wrote:Leenock please don't break my heart Poll: Which one is longer ?MKP vs Fantasy ? (5) 100% Firecake vs Avilo ? (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Which one is longer ? (Vote): Firecake vs Avilo ?
(Vote): MKP vs Fantasy ?
If there isn't at least 1 draw i will be disappointed
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At least MKC vs Fantasy cant last longer than Petreaus vs Stephano
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On December 26 2014 14:25 stuchiu wrote:
At least MKC vs Fantasy cant last longer than Petreaus vs Stephano
Kespa would shoot them both if they found a way to do that.
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On December 26 2014 14:25 stuchiu wrote:
At least MKC vs Fantasy cant last longer than Petreaus vs Stephano
I know you're the lord of Kespa Evil, but don't tempt fate.
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On December 26 2014 14:25 stuchiu wrote:
At least MKC vs Fantasy cant last longer than Petreaus vs Stephano
I think you're goading them into trying to make it longer 
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On December 26 2014 14:25 stuchiu wrote:
At least MKC vs Fantasy cant last longer than Petreaus vs Stephano
nonsense. ofc it can :p
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On December 26 2014 14:25 stuchiu wrote:
At least MKC vs Fantasy cant last longer than Petreaus vs Stephano
Soulkey and Reality failed to perform well in indivdual leagues because of their Star Station game.
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Before the garlic YMCA Starcraft action gets started, grats to King on 12k and Guitars on 13k!
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On December 26 2014 14:57 Circumstance wrote:
Before the garlic YMCA Starcraft action gets started, grats to King on 12k and Guitars on 13k!
And this would be my 12k post I guess. yay
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I didnt' even notice I was about to pass another thousand. Thanks circumstance
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Come on SUPER!!!!!! Invasion fighting! Cheering for Leenock as well!
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On December 26 2014 15:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I didnt' even notice I was about to pass another thousand. Thanks circumstance
You guys are posting at exactly the same rate. Crazy
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God, let's hope my parents internet can handle streams... I'm pretty sure it cant'
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On December 26 2014 15:03 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Live on Azubu stream
I was just about to ask.
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nice, free source on azubu
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Oh, come on. The first night I see Azubu lag is the night where I watch it over Twitch.
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Nice, azubu's 480 actually works. why does anyone use fuckign twitch again?
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On December 26 2014 15:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Nice, azubu's 480 actually works. why does anyone use fuckign twitch again?
Azubu's source is really good and streams better than twitch most of the time. I did notice that when azubu has more than 1k viewers the streams do get laggy and start to stutter though.
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The poll votes are 21:2 in favor of byul, against super.. hahaha :D It's almost as if Super is becoming even more underrated while proving himself more. Here he comes!
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Azubu down for anyone else?
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On December 26 2014 15:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
picnic for anyone else?
Just for a few seconds. Restart fixed it. I think they brought down the entire stream to switch channels on twitch.
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Streaming video services quaking in fear under the expectation of truly epic GG timings in the final series?
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Alright stream is back on twitch/sc2starleague haha, hard to keep up
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When there's a functional, stable stream, someone let me know.
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On December 25 2014 18:53 usopsama wrote:
I hope to see PartinG and San get rekted.
It worked last night, let's try this again:
I hope to see Super and MarineKing get rekted.
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Does it sound like the ingame sounds are inside a tunnel for anyone else?
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On December 26 2014 15:17 vult wrote:
Does it sound like the ingame sounds are inside a tunnel for anyone else?
yeah, all of spotv's productions these past few weeks have been like that.
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They've made up their mind on it, but the damn thing is still not staying up for more than a minute at a time.
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On December 26 2014 15:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 15:17 vult wrote:
Does it sound like the ingame sounds are inside a tunnel for anyone else? yeah, all of spotv's productions these past few weeks have been like that.
That's a shame. Being east coast US is not very conducive to watching KR broadcasts  hopefully they can figure out what's wrong, it sounds horrible.
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This loooks a lot like a game I played today except that ByuL is better than me.
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On December 26 2014 15:18 Circumstance wrote:They've made up their mind on it, but the damn thing is still not staying up for more than a minute at a time.
smooth as butter for me, i think the azubu stream is up
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Azubu's been up for a while
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On December 26 2014 15:18 Circumstance wrote:They've made up their mind on it, but the damn thing is still not staying up for more than a minute at a time.
I'm watching on Android tablet, no issues on twitch for me.
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Those viper kills were... super.
Bwaaaaaa
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Poll: Recommend Super vs ByuL Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 100% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Super vs ByuL Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Why did Byul push there? He only had one viper.
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Did Byul do ANYTHING with the Vipers?
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Yeah I hate using vipers, probably why I suck at ZvP.
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On December 26 2014 15:24 Circumstance wrote:
Did Byul do ANYTHING with the Vipers?
I soaked up a round of stalkers shots the second it flew in.
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On December 26 2014 15:24 Circumstance wrote:
Did Byul do ANYTHING with the Vipers?
Nope basically gifted both of them. Super did well to pull back his colossus and snipe them though but Byul just ran them in there prior to his army engaging.
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On December 26 2014 15:24 Circumstance wrote:
Did Byul do ANYTHING with the Vipers?
He offered them as sacrifice to the Vampires of Korea.
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On December 26 2014 15:24 Circumstance wrote:
Did Byul do ANYTHING with the Vipers?
He used them to tank against stalkers.
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Super can go SwagTrain on Byul
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Wellllll nevermind ByuL wasted way too many lings
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Colossus donation, so kind.
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Oh, you gave me some free vipers? Here, I got you a colossus! Merry Christmas!
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Holy hell thats a lot of stalkers
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Super's gong to match point.
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Sick zoning on the swarm hosts. FF the locusts and harass the fourth and get coeruptor kills. Really nice.
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Wow, that's how you pick apart swarm hosts
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That was so satisfying to watch
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Does Invasion have a PL partner? They have a sick team now.
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Super and Gumiho have both looked so much better on Invasion than they ever did in Kespa. Maybe it's like Dayshi - the alcohol makes them stronger.
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On December 26 2014 15:41 Circumstance wrote:
Super and Gumiho have both looked so much better on Invasion than they ever did in Kespa. Maybe it's like Dayshi - the alcohol makes them stronger.
It's that shady esports money.
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Oh Byul is super dead
he just cannot stop donating overlords
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On December 26 2014 15:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Oh Byul is super dead
he just cannot stop donating overlords
He's only dead-ish. Like 80-85% dead.
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ByuL got dis.
ByuL don't got dis.
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EU > KR when it comes to teams
just sayin'
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INVASION ESPORTS LOL
Super(b) play by Super.
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Super is a monster, expecting him to upset GSL group too
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Talk about disappointing :/
Guess ByuL is only good in SPL
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That was the most brutal thing I've seen in a long time.
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On December 26 2014 15:52 Inflicted wrote:
Super is a monster, expecting him to upset GSL group too
Yup yup!
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On December 26 2014 15:55 Lumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 15:52 Inflicted wrote:
Super is a monster, expecting him to upset GSL group too Yup yup!
whats his gsl group?
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Now we see Bbyong get reverse swept by herO right?
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On December 26 2014 15:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 15:55 Lumi wrote:On December 26 2014 15:52 Inflicted wrote:
Super is a monster, expecting him to upset GSL group too Yup yup! whats his gsl group?
Solar INno and some other noob Heart
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What's with the double audio? It sounds chaotic.
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On December 26 2014 15:56 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 15:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On December 26 2014 15:55 Lumi wrote:On December 26 2014 15:52 Inflicted wrote:
Super is a monster, expecting him to upset GSL group too Yup yup! whats his gsl group? Solar INno and some other noob Heart
Is it Heart vs Solar and INno vs Super or have the initial match-ups not been announced?
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On December 26 2014 15:56 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 15:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On December 26 2014 15:55 Lumi wrote:On December 26 2014 15:52 Inflicted wrote:
Super is a monster, expecting him to upset GSL group too Yup yup! whats his gsl group? Solar INno and some other noob Heart
The most scary/relevant thing I can think of about Heart is that he just 2-0'd DRG in the final match of their qualifier bracket, keeping DRG out of Code S and making it in himself. DRG and Super live together, btw :p Super will have to get revenge :O
I'm picking Super and Solar for that group but it'll be no shock for me if inno keeps solar out.. super is guaranteed for me
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Wolf talked about hair, everyone take a drink!
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Wow... didn't expect Super to win 3-0
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god I really need to go to bed....but I really wanna see Fantasy kill MarineKing
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On December 26 2014 15:59 Lumi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 15:56 Inflicted wrote:On December 26 2014 15:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On December 26 2014 15:55 Lumi wrote:On December 26 2014 15:52 Inflicted wrote:
Super is a monster, expecting him to upset GSL group too Yup yup! whats his gsl group? Solar INno and some other noob Heart The most scary/relevant thing I can think of about Heart is that he just 2-0'd DRG in the final match of their qualifier bracket, keeping DRG out of Code S and making it in himself. DRG and Super live together, btw :p Super will have to get revenge :O I'm picking Super and Solar for that group but it'll be no shock for me if inno keeps solar out.. super is guaranteed for me
Overlooking Heart is one of the biggest mistakes one can make. I have him going through that group.
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That beautiful balance.
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When will the CJ teamkills stop?
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On December 26 2014 16:07 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 15:59 Lumi wrote:On December 26 2014 15:56 Inflicted wrote:On December 26 2014 15:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On December 26 2014 15:55 Lumi wrote:On December 26 2014 15:52 Inflicted wrote:
Super is a monster, expecting him to upset GSL group too Yup yup! whats his gsl group? Solar INno and some other noob Heart The most scary/relevant thing I can think of about Heart is that he just 2-0'd DRG in the final match of their qualifier bracket, keeping DRG out of Code S and making it in himself. DRG and Super live together, btw :p Super will have to get revenge :O I'm picking Super and Solar for that group but it'll be no shock for me if inno keeps solar out.. super is guaranteed for me Overlooking Heart is one of the biggest mistakes one can make. I have him going through that group.
Heart vs Solar and Heart vs Innovation, what sick matches we could have :D
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On December 26 2014 16:07 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
When will the CJ teamkills stop?
CJ is the new Prime
all hail Prime
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Damn that was a sick defense by herO
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haha herO knows him so well, completely shut down.
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Bbyong is thinking "Sora, I trusted you to keep this quiet!"
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I always wonder what happens in practicing for teamkills. Does Bbyong get Sora and Hush while herO gets sKyHigh? what about a mirror like Bbyong vs sKyHigh?
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On December 26 2014 16:12 Circumstance wrote:
Bbyong is thinking "Sora, I trusted you to keep this quiet!"
Alas Sora dissolves all secrets if you just signal the letters W, C and G in front of his face.
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On December 26 2014 16:13 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I always wonder what happens in practicing for teamkills. Does Bbyong get Sora and Hush while herO gets sKyHigh? what about a mirror like Bbyong vs sKyHigh?
Well, a team obviously has some practice partners outside of the house. Woongjin used to practice with Axiom, Penguin credited his Code S qualification to his practice partners on Samsung, etc.
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Poll: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 80% ★★★- Good game (1) 20% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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Hahaha Bbyong got bopped in the drop game.
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Well that was way more one-sided than I expected
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that was hilarious. just punked by your own teammate
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Isn't that what a bop is?
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I want to see herO make a 0-0 deathball and beat Bbyong's 2-2 Bio again. :D
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herO defended like a boss
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toss winning on Catallena? meta is broken
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On December 26 2014 16:15 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 16:13 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I always wonder what happens in practicing for teamkills. Does Bbyong get Sora and Hush while herO gets sKyHigh? what about a mirror like Bbyong vs sKyHigh? Well, a team obviously has some practice partners outside of the house. Woongjin used to practice with Axiom, Penguin credited his Code S qualification to his practice partners on Samsung, etc.
Makes sense, pretty cool stuff though. It's so cute, they're all practicing with each other and I love it.
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On December 26 2014 16:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 16:15 Circumstance wrote:On December 26 2014 16:13 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I always wonder what happens in practicing for teamkills. Does Bbyong get Sora and Hush while herO gets sKyHigh? what about a mirror like Bbyong vs sKyHigh? Well, a team obviously has some practice partners outside of the house. Woongjin used to practice with Axiom, Penguin credited his Code S qualification to his practice partners on Samsung, etc. Makes sense, pretty cool stuff though. It's so cute, they're all practicing with each other and I love it.
Though the mental image of Bbyong facing sKyHigh and them both arguing over who gets to practice with Bunny is pretty great.
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I forgot Siege Mode was a thing that needed to be researched.
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Only a laptop tonight here, no dualies :S, but I have a windowed WoW and this gift to mankind to watch on one screen!
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Oh my goodness herO is so awesome I love this shit.
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Not looking too great for the toss
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nevermind, where are the vikings haha
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Siege tanks are so good wtf
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who woulda thought that bio tank would come back in but in TvP and not TvZ?
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The weird thing about this meta is that attacking a base just seems to consistently yield more worker kills than it did a few months ago.
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On December 26 2014 16:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Siege tanks are so good wtf
Bbyong makes them look that way in this match up. They're still very brittle.
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This is interesting, I'd been wanting to see what a bio-tank comp would look like in modern TvP for a while. It's gonna be even better in LotV
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Holy shit he got all the Vikings with those stalkers.
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On December 26 2014 16:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Bbyong makes them look that way in this match up. They're still very brittle.
Still waiting to see godly Korean T's making mech look imba
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Bbyong pulled the boys, but now he's...pushing them?
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On December 26 2014 16:28 Circumstance wrote:
The weird thing about this meta is that attacking a base just seems to consistently yield more worker kills than it did a few months ago.
It's a bad time to be a civilian in Starcraft.
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On December 26 2014 16:28 Circumstance wrote:
The weird thing about this meta is that attacking a base just seems to consistently yield more worker kills than it did a few months ago.
I feel like it works when Protoss doesn't have blink or charge because its really efficient to make waves of tanks and marines because the amount of gas that needs to be mined is overall less than making, like 10 marauders.
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On December 26 2014 16:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
who woulda thought that bio tank would come back in but in TvP and not TvZ?
I doubt this is actually a thing. Its just something Bbyong does. He has done stuff similar to this in the past.
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Jesus this map is so good for siege tanks hahaha
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On December 26 2014 16:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 16:28 Circumstance wrote:
The weird thing about this meta is that attacking a base just seems to consistently yield more worker kills than it did a few months ago. It's a bad time to be a civilian in Starcraft.
Is there such a thing? Zerg is all part of a single collective, Terran is seemingly only military, and Probes aren't living beings.
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This is a really entertaining game.
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herO is seriously impressing the hell out of me right now, this army control is just O_O
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On December 26 2014 16:31 Packawana wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 16:28 Circumstance wrote:
The weird thing about this meta is that attacking a base just seems to consistently yield more worker kills than it did a few months ago. I feel like it works when Protoss doesn't have blink or charge because its really efficient to make waves of tanks and marines because the amount of gas that needs to be mined is overall less than making, like 10 marauders.
It's not just in TvP, though. Reapers will kill more Drones now, worker splitting against Banelings is much less of a thing now, etc.
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herO's stalker target fire on air units is mind blowing, so sexy.
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Poll: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (12) 100% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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On December 26 2014 16:34 vult wrote:
herO's stalker target fire on air units is mind blowing, so sexy.
All of his army control in that game was seriously on point, damn
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Russian Federation232 Posts
siege tanks are totally trash in TvP (and TvZ unless u play mech) not sure why wolf kept saying they did a lot for him. they ddin't
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On December 26 2014 16:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Poll: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (12) 100% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
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On December 26 2014 16:35 stuchiu wrote:
tanks still bad.
It's not even that the tanks were bad. Bbyong never had enough air to counter colossus because herO kept sniping medivacs and vikings with the stalkers before blinking back. I really want to go back and watch that game and analyze it more. He killed 4 vikings with 6 stalkers while under fire by marauders and saved 4 of them by blinking back. It was actually immaculate.
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On December 26 2014 16:32 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 16:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On December 26 2014 16:28 Circumstance wrote:
The weird thing about this meta is that attacking a base just seems to consistently yield more worker kills than it did a few months ago. It's a bad time to be a civilian in Starcraft. Is there such a thing? Zerg is all part of a single collective, Terran is seemingly only military, and Probes aren't living beings.
Unless LotV adds ambient critters that are civilians, no. Plenty of civilians probably end up as collateral damage in the campaign though.
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On December 26 2014 16:35 stuchiu wrote:
tanks still bad.
even the sniff of mech in tvp means you lose. We clearly need bw tvp to be brought back
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Did anyone catch Bbyong's gas count throughout that game?
herO's army control was insanely good, but I'm just wondering if there's enough gas as a 3 base Terran to make enough Tanks and Vikings to make a strat like that work AND have even closer upgrades.
I know Bbyong's upgrades were a bit late due to the late armory, but did he reach 2/2 at any point in that game?
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On December 26 2014 16:38 Noonius wrote:even the sniff of mech in tvp means you lose. We clearly need bw tvp to be brought back
Just bring back the fucking Vulture/Spider Mine already Blizzard, please.
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On December 26 2014 16:38 vult wrote:It's not even that the tanks were bad. Bbyong never had enough air to counter colossus because herO kept sniping medivacs and vikings with the stalkers before blinking back. I really want to go back and watch that game and analyze it more. He killed 4 vikings with 6 stalkers while under fire by marauders and saved 4 of them by blinking back. It was actually immaculate.
I think the insufficient air is an indirect consequence of building a bio-tank army. Balancing the numbers of bio as buffer, the amount of medivacs, the amount of tanks, and the number of vikings is very difficult. Also tanks aren't particularly good against any protoss unit really.
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On December 26 2014 16:40 Lunareste wrote:
Did anyone catch Bbyong's gas count throughout that game?
herO's army control was insanely good, but I'm just wondering if there's enough gas as a 3 base Terran to make enough Tanks and Vikings to make a strat like that work AND have even closer upgrades.
I know Bbyong's upgrades were a bit late due to the late armory, but did he reach 2/2 at any point in that game?
I'm pretty sure he was still just 1/0 on his vehicle upgrades, even there at the end.
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On December 26 2014 16:40 Lunareste wrote:
Did anyone catch Bbyong's gas count throughout that game?
herO's army control was insanely good, but I'm just wondering if there's enough gas as a 3 base Terran to make enough Tanks and Vikings to make a strat like that work AND have even closer upgrades.
I know Bbyong's upgrades were a bit late due to the late armory, but did he reach 2/2 at any point in that game?
I don't think he ever got 2/2, but if you're able to maintain your medivac count and not lose vikings you can afford it, but its reallllly hard.
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Now he goes for that same bio tank comp
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Those move command stalkers.
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HOOOO I nearly lost it at "Avilo cries everytime"
and then the "he's killing so many probes with the autoturrets, he might get the achievement"
wolf killin it
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On December 26 2014 16:42 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 16:40 Lunareste wrote:
Did anyone catch Bbyong's gas count throughout that game?
herO's army control was insanely good, but I'm just wondering if there's enough gas as a 3 base Terran to make enough Tanks and Vikings to make a strat like that work AND have even closer upgrades.
I know Bbyong's upgrades were a bit late due to the late armory, but did he reach 2/2 at any point in that game? I'm pretty sure he was still just 1/0 on his vehicle upgrades, even there at the end.
I meant 2/2 on the bio, not the mech. but thanks =)
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On December 26 2014 16:43 NeThZOR wrote:
Now he goes for that same bio tank comp
I don't think its bad if you go for an all-in or a very heavy push with this. Its the transition from it and the resulting midgame that's iffy.
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herO your blink stalker control this series is seriously giving me nerd boners goddamn man
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On December 26 2014 16:38 vult wrote:It's not even that the tanks were bad. Bbyong never had enough air to counter colossus because herO kept sniping medivacs and vikings with the stalkers before blinking back. I really want to go back and watch that game and analyze it more. He killed 4 vikings with 6 stalkers while under fire by marauders and saved 4 of them by blinking back. It was actually immaculate.
One of the many many fundamental problems with tanks is that they're movement speed is slow. Which is fine if you're playing mech or you can set up positions if you have positional advantage, but in skirmish PvT what essentially happens is you have 4 sets of units with 4 different movement speeds.
You have the bio/bio on stim, medivacs, vikings and tanks. Theoretically a player could be able to set them up on 4 hot keys to perfectly micro each unit, but in practice (like most players) set it up on one hotkey then use the mouse to control individuals sets of units. So by including tanks into your comp microing an already hard to micro army just gets that much harder.
Combined with the tanks brittleness, lack of mobility, gas cost, supply count and need to target fire on collosus just makes tank comps not worth the effort for most players.
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insane snipe with one stalker
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Loving the CJ internal meta!
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Poll: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 7% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (9) 60% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5) 33% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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GJ Bbyong, staying alive.
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On December 26 2014 16:45 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 16:42 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On December 26 2014 16:40 Lunareste wrote:
Did anyone catch Bbyong's gas count throughout that game?
herO's army control was insanely good, but I'm just wondering if there's enough gas as a 3 base Terran to make enough Tanks and Vikings to make a strat like that work AND have even closer upgrades.
I know Bbyong's upgrades were a bit late due to the late armory, but did he reach 2/2 at any point in that game? I'm pretty sure he was still just 1/0 on his vehicle upgrades, even there at the end. I meant 2/2 on the bio, not the mech. but thanks =)
Ah, yeah he was about halfway(ish) done with 3/3 at the end. I def remember seeing the red bio upgrade icons on the production tab at one point
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Nice game. I hope Bbyong wins one more. This series is getting exciting.
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The overhype is real? Game 2 was much better.
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On December 26 2014 16:40 Lunareste wrote:
Did anyone catch Bbyong's gas count throughout that game?
herO's army control was insanely good, but I'm just wondering if there's enough gas as a 3 base Terran to make enough Tanks and Vikings to make a strat like that work AND have even closer upgrades.
I know Bbyong's upgrades were a bit late due to the late armory, but did he reach 2/2 at any point in that game?
he was 2/2 right before he lost his 4th.
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Bbyong you mad genius you maniac you fantastic man you
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Revers all sweep Bbyong? I liked his use of tanks way better in this game than the one before. He shouldn't make too many tanks but having 2-3 early game is great imo.
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On December 26 2014 16:47 vult wrote:
The overhype is real? Game 2 was much better.
Siege Tanks just won a game in TvP.
In g2, Siege Tanks did not win a game in TvP.
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I can't stay up any longer so tired after Christmas festivities. GL to Yonghwa and MarineKing later.
Night guys <3
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On December 26 2014 16:48 Baadbeat wrote:
Revers all sweep Bbyong? I liked his use of tanks way better in this game than the one before. He shouldn't make too many tanks but having 2-3 early game is great imo.
It seems suuuuuuuper map dependent. Like, Deadwing has a lot of pretty decent siege spots, and overgrowth obviously has that siege up on the nat. I'm sure the other maps have one or two decent spots too but it definitely does not seem like something you want to be doing on every map.
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On December 26 2014 16:47 vult wrote:
The overhype is real? Game 2 was much better.
I don't know, I really liked how crazy that game was. Bbyong's great defense against the blink stalkers, the individual unit control from herO, the basetradey situations. It was really action packed and exciting in my eyes.
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On December 26 2014 16:49 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 16:48 Baadbeat wrote:
Revers all sweep Bbyong? I liked his use of tanks way better in this game than the one before. He shouldn't make too many tanks but having 2-3 early game is great imo. It seems suuuuuuuper map dependent. Like, Deadwing has a lot of pretty decent siege spots, and overgrowth obviously has that siege up on the nat. I'm sure the other maps have one or two decent spots too but it definitely does not seem like something you want to be doing on every map.
Tanks are definitely a unit whose effectiveness depends on the map and where they are actually placed, much more than most other units.
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On December 26 2014 16:46 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 16:38 vult wrote:On December 26 2014 16:35 stuchiu wrote:
tanks still bad. It's not even that the tanks were bad. Bbyong never had enough air to counter colossus because herO kept sniping medivacs and vikings with the stalkers before blinking back. I really want to go back and watch that game and analyze it more. He killed 4 vikings with 6 stalkers while under fire by marauders and saved 4 of them by blinking back. It was actually immaculate. One of the many many fundamental problems with tanks is that they're movement speed is slow. Which is fine if you're playing mech or you can set up positions if you have positional advantage, but in skirmish PvT what essentially happens is you have 4 sets of units with 4 different movement speeds. You have the bio/bio on stim, medivacs, vikings and tanks. Theoretically a player could be able to set them up on 4 hot keys to perfectly micro each unit, but in practice (like most players) set it up on one hotkey then use the mouse to control individuals sets of units. So by including tanks into your comp microing an already hard to micro army just gets that much harder. Combined with the tanks brittleness, lack of mobility, gas cost, supply count and need to target fire on collosus just makes tank comps not worth the effort for most players.
Additionally going bio tank is very anti-synergistic. The upgrades are split, the medivacs don't help the tanks during big battles, the bio wants to kite back while the tanks want the bio to hold the line and buffer, allowing them to shell the opponent. Getting good compositions and engagement is very difficult and sometimes not possible.
Tank play will only really be possible against Protoss if Terran gets a unit that results in Protoss wanting to kite back and maintain range as well as buffering for tanks. I think such a unit would break bio though.
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Tanks again. Bbyong, I love you.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
tanks again. Well you can at least say Bbyong is the captain of his soul.
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On December 26 2014 16:47 pure.Wasted wrote:
Bbyong you mad genius you maniac you fantastic man you
Everytime I see this guy I just love him more and more and more
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herO pitied Byong that game. Now it's time for that 3-1.
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Twitch, I thought you'd fixed yourself for the night.
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LOL that DT got blown up.
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On December 26 2014 16:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 16:46 stuchiu wrote:On December 26 2014 16:38 vult wrote:On December 26 2014 16:35 stuchiu wrote:
tanks still bad. It's not even that the tanks were bad. Bbyong never had enough air to counter colossus because herO kept sniping medivacs and vikings with the stalkers before blinking back. I really want to go back and watch that game and analyze it more. He killed 4 vikings with 6 stalkers while under fire by marauders and saved 4 of them by blinking back. It was actually immaculate. One of the many many fundamental problems with tanks is that they're movement speed is slow. Which is fine if you're playing mech or you can set up positions if you have positional advantage, but in skirmish PvT what essentially happens is you have 4 sets of units with 4 different movement speeds. You have the bio/bio on stim, medivacs, vikings and tanks. Theoretically a player could be able to set them up on 4 hot keys to perfectly micro each unit, but in practice (like most players) set it up on one hotkey then use the mouse to control individuals sets of units. So by including tanks into your comp microing an already hard to micro army just gets that much harder. Combined with the tanks brittleness, lack of mobility, gas cost, supply count and need to target fire on collosus just makes tank comps not worth the effort for most players. Additionally going bio tank is very anti-synergistic. The upgrades are split, the medivacs don't help the tanks during big battles, the bio wants to kite back while the tanks want the bio to hold the line and buffer, allowing them to shell the opponent. Getting good compositions and engagement is very difficult and sometimes not possible. Tank play will only really be possible against Protoss if Terran gets a unit that results in Protoss wanting to kite back and maintain range as well as buffering for tanks. I think such a unit would break bio though.
Like the Vulture/Spider Mine? I'm never going to let go of it, Spider Mine would legit make Mech work in TvP again.
Although, from the LOTV matches where I've seen it, the medivac Sieged Tank pickup seems to provide a lot of options. I'm just wondering how it's going to work out when Stalkers need to Blink into the Bio to catch retreating Medivacs that are going to re-drop tanks.
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GG Bbyong. Stop building tanks pls.
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Another disadvantage of using siege tanks: they need to be sieged mister!
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herO is playing so well goddamn
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Kudos to herO, but Byong's play has been underwhelming. gogo herO!
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Poll: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 4?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 40% ★★★- Good game (3) 30% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 30% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 14% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 57% ★★★- Good game (1) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Bbyong Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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NO DREAMS ALLOWED TODAY BBYONG sorry
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On December 26 2014 16:57 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 16:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 26 2014 16:46 stuchiu wrote:On December 26 2014 16:38 vult wrote:On December 26 2014 16:35 stuchiu wrote:
tanks still bad. It's not even that the tanks were bad. Bbyong never had enough air to counter colossus because herO kept sniping medivacs and vikings with the stalkers before blinking back. I really want to go back and watch that game and analyze it more. He killed 4 vikings with 6 stalkers while under fire by marauders and saved 4 of them by blinking back. It was actually immaculate. One of the many many fundamental problems with tanks is that they're movement speed is slow. Which is fine if you're playing mech or you can set up positions if you have positional advantage, but in skirmish PvT what essentially happens is you have 4 sets of units with 4 different movement speeds. You have the bio/bio on stim, medivacs, vikings and tanks. Theoretically a player could be able to set them up on 4 hot keys to perfectly micro each unit, but in practice (like most players) set it up on one hotkey then use the mouse to control individuals sets of units. So by including tanks into your comp microing an already hard to micro army just gets that much harder. Combined with the tanks brittleness, lack of mobility, gas cost, supply count and need to target fire on collosus just makes tank comps not worth the effort for most players. Additionally going bio tank is very anti-synergistic. The upgrades are split, the medivacs don't help the tanks during big battles, the bio wants to kite back while the tanks want the bio to hold the line and buffer, allowing them to shell the opponent. Getting good compositions and engagement is very difficult and sometimes not possible. Tank play will only really be possible against Protoss if Terran gets a unit that results in Protoss wanting to kite back and maintain range as well as buffering for tanks. I think such a unit would break bio though. Like the Vulture/Spider Mine? I'm never going to let go of it, Spider Mine would legit make Mech work in TvP again. Although, from the LOTV matches where I've seen it, the medivac Sieged Tank pickup seems to provide a lot of options. I'm just wondering how it's going to work out when Stalkers need to Blink into the Bio to catch retreating Medivacs that are going to re-drop tanks.
I'm not sure Vulture/Spider Mine would be effective against colossi. And chargelots seem perfect to drag mines even better than BW speedlots.
As to sieged tank pick up, it seems a really hard thing to balance. It has both the potential to be deceptively bad due to anti-synergies between tanks and medivacs and outrageously broken.
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On December 26 2014 16:47 pure.Wasted wrote:
Bbyong you mad genius you maniac you fantastic man you
Bbyong you mad genius you maniac you fantastic man you
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wow SSL is on so early, it's a christmas miracle
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On December 26 2014 17:02 Dodgin wrote:
wow SSL is on so early, it's a christmas miracle
extra series and they're accounting for fanta vs mk gg timings
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I can't belive herO almost got his Korea win earlier this year. D:
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On December 26 2014 17:04 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 17:02 Dodgin wrote:
wow SSL is on so early, it's a christmas miracle extra series and they're accounting for fanta vs mk gg timings
that makes so much sense
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On December 26 2014 17:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 16:57 Lunareste wrote:On December 26 2014 16:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 26 2014 16:46 stuchiu wrote:On December 26 2014 16:38 vult wrote:On December 26 2014 16:35 stuchiu wrote:
tanks still bad. It's not even that the tanks were bad. Bbyong never had enough air to counter colossus because herO kept sniping medivacs and vikings with the stalkers before blinking back. I really want to go back and watch that game and analyze it more. He killed 4 vikings with 6 stalkers while under fire by marauders and saved 4 of them by blinking back. It was actually immaculate. One of the many many fundamental problems with tanks is that they're movement speed is slow. Which is fine if you're playing mech or you can set up positions if you have positional advantage, but in skirmish PvT what essentially happens is you have 4 sets of units with 4 different movement speeds. You have the bio/bio on stim, medivacs, vikings and tanks. Theoretically a player could be able to set them up on 4 hot keys to perfectly micro each unit, but in practice (like most players) set it up on one hotkey then use the mouse to control individuals sets of units. So by including tanks into your comp microing an already hard to micro army just gets that much harder. Combined with the tanks brittleness, lack of mobility, gas cost, supply count and need to target fire on collosus just makes tank comps not worth the effort for most players. Additionally going bio tank is very anti-synergistic. The upgrades are split, the medivacs don't help the tanks during big battles, the bio wants to kite back while the tanks want the bio to hold the line and buffer, allowing them to shell the opponent. Getting good compositions and engagement is very difficult and sometimes not possible. Tank play will only really be possible against Protoss if Terran gets a unit that results in Protoss wanting to kite back and maintain range as well as buffering for tanks. I think such a unit would break bio though. Like the Vulture/Spider Mine? I'm never going to let go of it, Spider Mine would legit make Mech work in TvP again. Although, from the LOTV matches where I've seen it, the medivac Sieged Tank pickup seems to provide a lot of options. I'm just wondering how it's going to work out when Stalkers need to Blink into the Bio to catch retreating Medivacs that are going to re-drop tanks. I'm not sure Vulture/Spider Mine would be effective against colossi. And chargelots seem perfect to drag mines even better than BW speedlots. As to sieged tank pick up, it seems a really hard thing to balance. It has both the potential to be deceptively bad due to anti-synergies between tanks and medivacs and outrageously broken.
True about the colossi, but also remember that they have 1 less range in LOTV than they do in HOTS.
Anyway, I really want to stay up but I have work in the morning, guess I'll watch the vods tomorrow. Goodnight Starcraft fans.
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Ok srsly have to sleep now, I just hope Fantasy-MK is a good match, and shows potential for whoever wins to go far!
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Leenock you better come through! Zerg needs you
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
MVPChoya vs FXOChoya who will win?
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The legend of S[P]OTV continues.
Meanwhile, Twitch isn't loading at all on medium, and Azubu is lagging to hell and back at 480. What is UP with tonight?
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Twitch is sweet for me on high. :s
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Letssssssssssssss go Yonghwa!
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On December 26 2014 17:15 stuchiu wrote:
MVPChoya vs FXOChoya who will win?
Protoss always wins.
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I think I've decided to root for Leenock since he's a cool player and for the sake of the zerg race.
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On December 26 2014 17:15 Circumstance wrote:
The legend of S[P]OTV continues.
Meanwhile, Twitch isn't loading at all on medium, and Azubu is lagging to hell and back at 480. What is UP with tonight?
Twitch has been playing just fine for the last couple of hours for me. Dunno what you guys are talking about
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I'm now watching on my phone because it's all that'll work. And I get the sense that Leenock losing that nat might not wind up being as big a deal as it looks.
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I have a bad feeling that Leenock will turn this deficit into a win
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uhhh... that's an interesting answer to swarmhosts.
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Woah, I thought he was gonna go for the Alicia/sOs triple void ray style.
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On December 26 2014 17:29 Circumstance wrote:
Surprise China?
"I raise your indestructible wall of #KillNaniPassion with #MassHarrass and the #FlightOfThePhoenix"
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where'd the phoenixes go?
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Was that carriers?
edit: Oh only one, alongside two phoenixes. A misclick no doubt.
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Haven't seen some good muta corruptor in a while, feels really nice :D
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Is today the day of making Vipers and then not using them for anything at all?
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1 carrier just for intimidation. a very yonghwa thing to do.
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Anion pulse crystal is a cool upgrade. For a very long time I assumed it was completely useless except in phoenix mirrors, and a mistake from Blizzard since no one actually used them for the avowed goal of countering mutas. It has a nice role nowadays though.
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This is the kind of game you want to show to a friend to explain SC2 to them.
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does anyone know how well the protoss air is upgraded?
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On December 26 2014 17:40 Doublemint wrote:
does anyone know how well the protoss air is upgraded?
I don't think it is. +1 air attack actually.
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On December 26 2014 17:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 17:40 Doublemint wrote:
does anyone know how well the protoss air is upgraded? I don't think it is. +1 air attack actually.
yeah feels very light on upgrades. yonghwa should cut throught that army like a hot knife through butter - at least before the yoinks.
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yay I woke up
did Byul put up a fight or did Super just roll him?
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On December 26 2014 17:43 Ej_ wrote:
yay I woke up
did Byul put up a fight or did Super just roll him?
The latter.
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this is so much better than super vs byul, haven't seen good zvp's like this in a while.
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On December 26 2014 17:39 Circumstance wrote:
This is the kind of game you want to show to a friend to explain SC2 to them.
It really is. With Broodlords and DTs coming up we're approaching the full set of units.
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Even good to see infestor usage
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literally broodlord infestor.
y u no scout yonghwa ~_~
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why is Leenock playing on hive tech without mass transfuse? is it actually Leenock or just a pretender?
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L33tnockkk! :D
He just won't die
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Leenock put down some AMAZING Blinding Clouds in that choke, and that swung the engagement that won him the game.
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Poll: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (2) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (10) 71% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 14% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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yonghwa was using a great anti ultralisk army but against broodlords with a massive econ disadvantage it just don't work
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On December 26 2014 17:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 17:39 Circumstance wrote:
This is the kind of game you want to show to a friend to explain SC2 to them. It really is. With Broodlords and DTs coming up we're approaching the full set of units.
And it even started with a Cannon Rush, so it covers the factor of cheese too.
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On December 26 2014 17:46 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Poll: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (2) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (10) 71% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 14% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
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(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Did Leenock loose weight? I was like woah that doesn't look like Leenock.
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I can't root for not-so-chubby leenock anymore.
:p
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On December 26 2014 17:47 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 17:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 26 2014 17:39 Circumstance wrote:
This is the kind of game you want to show to a friend to explain SC2 to them. It really is. With Broodlords and DTs coming up we're approaching the full set of units. And it even started with a Cannon Rush, so it covers the factor of cheese too.
No archon toilet. Oh wait...
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leenock's face looks thinner.
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He definitely lost some weight. Glad that he doesn't look so chubby anymore
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On December 26 2014 17:47 Thrillz wrote:
Did Leenock loose weight? I was like woah that doesn't look like Leenock.
My theory is that Leenock eats JulyZerg to inherit his aggressive and cheesy playstyle and posture (that's why he made impact around the time July was "retiring" - actually got consumed) and becomes Fat Leenockboo. Then he eats Life and becomes Majin Leenockboo (that's his current iteration, watch closely to Life retiring). In the end Leenock eats Solar and soO, becomes Super Leenockboo and travels back in time to become Nestea and inspire all Zerg players to be good so he can eat them to gain powers.
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Of course he's smart, Wolf. He ate Life yesterday.
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On December 26 2014 17:50 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 17:47 Thrillz wrote:
Did Leenock loose weight? I was like woah that doesn't look like Leenock. My theory is that Leenock eats JulyZerg to inherit his aggressive and cheesy playstyle and posture (that's why he made impact around the time July was "retiring" - actually got consumed) and becomes Fat Leenockboo. Then he eats Life and becomes Majin Leenockboo (that's his current iteration, watch closely to Life retiring). In the end Leenock eats Solar and soO, becomes Super Leenockboo and travels back in time to become Nestea and inspire all Zerg players to be good so he can eat them to gain powers.
On the next episode of Dragon Ball Z...
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skipping roach warren...
FFS it's 150 mins and no gas
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nice targeting with the spines
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literally caught himself between a rock and a hard place.
On December 26 2014 17:55 Ej_ wrote:
skipping roach warren...
FFS it's 150 mins and no gas
yeah, against a more capable protoss this should have been game.
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screw it, i'm rooting for Leenock now
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Pure Gateway vs. Roach/Infestor ain't that good.
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looks like Leenock fixed his ZvP
he definitely ate Life
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i need to root for leenock more man, he's so goddamn cool.
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Leenock and Symbol always have fun games :D
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Poll: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (2) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (12) 86% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Only one more game Leenock gogogogo
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I expected an elimination tonight, but we're a series early..
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On December 26 2014 18:05 Circumstance wrote:
I expected an elimination tonight, but we're a series early..
Leenock doesn't fuck around.
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I don't hope that this is an MVP curse for MarineKing's sake
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On December 26 2014 18:05 Circumstance wrote:
I expected an elimination tonight, but we're a series early..
so true
gonna be a bit bummed if we don't get at least one more now
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Well, while we're stuck in the early game, what do you guys think about trading Trap for Losira?
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people use hotkeys... well, I never
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lol I got Panic last week because I needed to fill a gap and now he gets fielded
and it's vs the best PvP player on the planet...
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Going back to what wolf was talking about like an hour ago, what did happen to IM? Seems like when I was away over the summer and they all disappeared? Except disbandment was never announced?
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On December 26 2014 18:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Going back to what wolf was talking about like an hour ago, what did happen to IM? Seems like when I was away over the summer and they all disappeared? Except disbandment was never announced?
they started releasing all their players 1 by 1, until they had none
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PANIC STATIONS
oh phew we're back
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rofl, those lings were dipped in butter
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Yonghwa doing his best to channel Inca.
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On December 26 2014 18:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Going back to what wolf was talking about like an hour ago, what did happen to IM? Seems like when I was away over the summer and they all disappeared? Except disbandment was never announced?
I guess somewhere along the way, they weren't able to sustain themselves financially. Mvp, Trap, and (I think) YongHwa left on the same day, and that was the beginning of the end.
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On December 26 2014 18:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Going back to what wolf was talking about like an hour ago, what did happen to IM? Seems like when I was away over the summer and they all disappeared? Except disbandment was never announced?
They just kind of faded away, coach was in the hospital(?) and all the players slowly left
the LG thing really fucked them
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Wait, he's researching Blink at the same time. I thought this was gonna be a big drop play, but apparently not.
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Note how Yonghwa has 900 minerals banked now
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On December 26 2014 18:12 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 18:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Going back to what wolf was talking about like an hour ago, what did happen to IM? Seems like when I was away over the summer and they all disappeared? Except disbandment was never announced? I guess somewhere along the way, they weren't able to sustain themselves financially. Mvp, Trap, and (I think) YongHwa left on the same day, and that was the beginning of the end.
That's a shame, they seemed to have quite a legacy throughout Wings.
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On December 26 2014 18:14 Heartland wrote:
Note how Yonghwa has 900 minerals banked now
Never been one to win through superior mechanics.
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On December 26 2014 18:15 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 18:14 Heartland wrote:
Note how Yonghwa has 900 minerals banked now Never been one to win through superior mechanics.
it's so typical to try and micro three different DTs and just end up losing because you forget to macro : P
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Sick creep spread. Gonna be hard for Yonghwa to push
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Leenock played really well today.
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Leenock is playing a style of zerg that I'm really enjoying, it's like falling in love all over again.
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On December 26 2014 18:15 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 18:12 Circumstance wrote:On December 26 2014 18:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Going back to what wolf was talking about like an hour ago, what did happen to IM? Seems like when I was away over the summer and they all disappeared? Except disbandment was never announced? I guess somewhere along the way, they weren't able to sustain themselves financially. Mvp, Trap, and (I think) YongHwa left on the same day, and that was the beginning of the end. That's a shame, they seemed to have quite a legacy throughout Wings.
That's quite an understatement. They're the only team to have ever had a GSL champion of all 3 races on their roster at the same time. I wouldn't be surprised if that feat wasn't even matched in the MSL.
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This is gonna come down to a Leenock dive-bomb.
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Leenock could just begin establishing a base. Wouldn't try to suicide on the nexus.
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oooooooo shit this is exciting
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Huh Yonghwa would be ahead if he only knew that base was right there..
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Ouch, that hurts for Yonghwa.
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That was such bad army movement
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This series has got everything, man.
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Yonghwa can't move out now.
Leenock to remax on mutas. :D
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Lol what am I watching here?
Can't tell if yonghwa is being BM or I should applaud him
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"I don't think that's a smart choice, but it would win him the game" - Wolf "Wolf" Schroder 2014
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On December 26 2014 18:25 Circumstance wrote:
"I don't think that's a smart choice, but it would win him the game" - Wolf "Wolf" Schroder 2014
In a later age Wolfisms will be considered as deep and meaningful as Buddhist sayings.
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that was really good effort by YongHwa, he made an over game look almost not over
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that was really really good
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Poll: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (2) 13% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (7) 47% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (6) 40% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 4?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (3) 43% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 43% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 13% ★★★- Good game (6) 75% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 13% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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so intense ahhh
<3 Leenock
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And YFW DOES continue on to the Ro16!
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Fun game!
On December 26 2014 18:25 Circumstance wrote:
"I don't think that's a smart choice, but it would win him the game" - Wolf "Wolf" Schroder 2014
The only way to salvage that is if the decision would seem very risky with Leenock's imperfect information, but nearly guaranteed to succeed with our spectators' perfect information. So it would be a bad decision even though it would succeed.
But Leenock knew exactly what was on the map, so I can't see how that could be true.
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Nice going Leenock.
And now I'm out. I can't bear to watch my two non-existent children fight
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On December 26 2014 18:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Poll: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (2) 13% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (7) 47% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (6) 40% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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Poll: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 13% ★★★- Good game (6) 75% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 13% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Yonghwa vs Leenock Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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On December 26 2014 18:32 Lorning wrote:
This timing
you've been on a roll these past few days
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Time for todays most hype match. GOGO FANTASY!!
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On December 26 2014 18:33 KingofdaHipHop wrote:you've been on a roll these past few days
It's a christmas miracle!
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Happy for herO but very sad for bbyong
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Leenock
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On December 26 2014 18:28 pure.Wasted wrote:Fun game! Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 18:25 Circumstance wrote:
"I don't think that's a smart choice, but it would win him the game" - Wolf "Wolf" Schroder 2014 The only way to salvage that is if the decision would seem very risky with Leenock's imperfect information, but nearly guaranteed to succeed with our spectators' perfect information. So it would be a bad decision even though it would succeed. But Leenock knew exactly what was on the map, so I can't see how that could be true.
Trying to extract too much sense from things said by Wolf is generally a wasted effort.
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THE TERRORIST ENTERS THE BATTLEFIELD
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MK looks like a different person very time I see him.
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lol all the results are from like 2010-12.
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This series could be really hilariously bad. Let's hope not.
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Do I have to wait for days to see herO - Bbyong if I missed it?
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On December 26 2014 18:41 Mozdk wrote:
Do I have to wait for days to see herO - Bbyong if I missed it?
Should be uploaded during the day
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lol a maka factory that would be insane.
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On December 26 2014 18:37 TheDwf wrote:
THE TERRORIST ENTERS THE BATTLEFIELD
the counter-terrorists win
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Also, would someone who knows something about bw like to tell me why fantasy was called the terrorist terran? I have a vague recollection of when someone probably already told me but i don't remember things.
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On December 26 2014 18:42 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 18:41 Mozdk wrote:
Do I have to wait for days to see herO - Bbyong if I missed it? Should be uploaded during the day
Hope so. Important to watch herO, when PvT is weak. Getting better though.
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Credit to MVK, most people would've probably lifted during that pressure.
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On December 26 2014 18:44 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Also, would someone who knows something about bw like to tell me why fantasy was called the terrorist terran? I have a vague recollection of when someone probably already told me but i don't remember things.
vulture run by's, drops, vulture drops
he terrorized worker lines, mostly probes
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On December 26 2014 18:44 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 18:42 TheDwf wrote:On December 26 2014 18:41 Mozdk wrote:
Do I have to wait for days to see herO - Bbyong if I missed it? Should be uploaded during the day Hope so. Important to watch herO, when PvT is weak. Getting better though.
You're not gonna learn information from Bbyong games that you can apply to your own PvT.
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On December 26 2014 18:44 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Also, would someone who knows something about bw like to tell me why fantasy was called the terrorist terran? I have a vague recollection of when someone probably already told me but i don't remember things.
He terrorised everyone with his vultures
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I remember MK vs Maru. I was hyped for it and was totally bummed that it sucked and went to bed. Then I woke up and found out I missed SalvatioN vs Cure and was thoroughly pissed.
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On December 26 2014 18:44 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 18:42 TheDwf wrote:On December 26 2014 18:41 Mozdk wrote:
Do I have to wait for days to see herO - Bbyong if I missed it? Should be uploaded during the day Hope so. Important to watch herO, when PvT is weak. Getting better though.
If PvT is "weak" I wonder why 4 top Terrans with good TvP went 0-4 in series vs KR Protoss in this SSL
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On December 26 2014 18:47 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 18:44 Mozdk wrote:On December 26 2014 18:42 TheDwf wrote:On December 26 2014 18:41 Mozdk wrote:
Do I have to wait for days to see herO - Bbyong if I missed it? Should be uploaded during the day Hope so. Important to watch herO, when PvT is weak. Getting better though. You're not gonna learn information from Bbyong games that you can apply to your own PvT.
You can always learn responses. And positioning. And how to think about the matchup.
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Switched last, still lost Tving to Jangbi
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Someone needs to tell Wolf BW is back up and running
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On December 26 2014 18:48 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 18:44 Mozdk wrote:On December 26 2014 18:42 TheDwf wrote:On December 26 2014 18:41 Mozdk wrote:
Do I have to wait for days to see herO - Bbyong if I missed it? Should be uploaded during the day Hope so. Important to watch herO, when PvT is weak. Getting better though. If PvT is "weak" I wonder why 4 top Terrans with good TvP went 0-4 in series vs KR Protoss in this SSL
Wow you go straight to balance. I was talking about my own PvT. It's my weakest MO by far. Has been for several seasons. Still around 40%.
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On December 26 2014 18:48 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 18:44 Mozdk wrote:On December 26 2014 18:42 TheDwf wrote:On December 26 2014 18:41 Mozdk wrote:
Do I have to wait for days to see herO - Bbyong if I missed it? Should be uploaded during the day Hope so. Important to watch herO, when PvT is weak. Getting better though. If PvT is "weak" I wonder why 4 top Terrans with good TvP went 0-4 in series vs KR Protoss in this SSL
Because all the Protoss players are better than their Terran counterparts.
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On December 26 2014 18:48 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 18:44 Mozdk wrote:On December 26 2014 18:42 TheDwf wrote:On December 26 2014 18:41 Mozdk wrote:
Do I have to wait for days to see herO - Bbyong if I missed it? Should be uploaded during the day Hope so. Important to watch herO, when PvT is weak. Getting better though. If PvT is "weak" I wonder why 4 top Terrans with good TvP went 0-4 in series vs KR Protoss in this SSL
i think he meant his PvT
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On December 26 2014 18:49 CrayonPopChoa wrote:
Someone needs to tell Wolf BW is back up and running
I'm pretty sure he knows as he's mentioned SSL during in his casts.
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Colored Scans are the best thing to happen to TvT this year.
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MKP don't need no tanks, Valdes
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Wow Fantasy vs MKP already?
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On December 26 2014 18:52 Lorning wrote:
MKP don't need no tanks, Valdes
he doesn't need to qualify either, he can play in Proleague!
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Fanta declines the base race.
Pity. I was excited for floating buildings galore in g1!
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im so happy that marineking is still living up to his name
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lol MKP playing true to his name
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yeah btw I think that every Terran becomes better when he leaves SKT
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On December 26 2014 18:53 Ej_ wrote:he doesn't need to qualify either, he can play in Proleague!
And GSL
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MK prolonging his suffering.
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On December 26 2014 18:54 Phredxor wrote:
MK prolonging his suffering.
did you expect anthing else out of this series?
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"66 Marines!"
Boy, Wolf is in for a surprise when Bomber plays a late game TvT in PL.
Or TvZ.
Basically any late game in general.
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Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 14% ★★★- Good game (8) 57% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 21% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 7% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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THE RETURN OF THE TERRORIST!!
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GG! :D
Hope Fantasy wins but MKP is really good at getting 2nd so maybe he'll advance.
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On December 26 2014 18:55 Ej_ wrote:did you expect anthing else out of this series?
No way. :D
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Plz plz plz pantaji make me proud and happy !
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Do we know if they draw the Group stage after this?
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the battle of the late ggers.
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On December 26 2014 18:55 Ej_ wrote:
that was awfuly early gg
For MarineKing that is. He was dead.
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On December 26 2014 18:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 14% ★★★- Good game (8) 57% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 21% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 7% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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On December 26 2014 18:56 Thrillz wrote:For MarineKing that is. He was dead.
should have kicked the cord
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MK eating gum and blowing it up ROFL
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Are people forgetting that the King of Marines had his greatest success utilizing Marauders?
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is it just me or does marineking look like a completely different person every time he plays
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On December 26 2014 18:57 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
is it just me or does marineking look like a completely different person every time he plays
he does
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On December 26 2014 18:56 TheDwf wrote:
Do we know if they draw the Group stage after this?
There's a group selection somewhere early in January
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On December 26 2014 18:57 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
is it just me or does marineking look like a completely different person every time he plays
To me he looks younger than he did 4 years ago
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A bo5 TvT series including a WoL veteran played without a single proxy Marauder. Achievement unlocked
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On December 26 2014 18:58 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 18:56 TheDwf wrote:
Do we know if they draw the Group stage after this? There's a group selection somewhere early in January
Thanks!
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in case anybody didn't hear that, marineking had 2 factories they were blocked so tanks couldn't be produced. if you watch the vod later you'll see production tab shows tanks attempting to be made
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Ah its Fantasy. Good times
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On December 26 2014 18:58 TheDwf wrote:
A bo5 TvT series including a WoL veteran played without a single proxy Marauder. Achievement unlocked
It ain't over yet!
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On December 26 2014 19:00 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 18:58 TheDwf wrote:
A bo5 TvT series including a WoL veteran played without a single proxy Marauder. Achievement unlocked It ain't over yet!
It is, look the maps
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On December 26 2014 19:01 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:00 Heartland wrote:On December 26 2014 18:58 TheDwf wrote:
A bo5 TvT series including a WoL veteran played without a single proxy Marauder. Achievement unlocked It ain't over yet! It is, look the maps
You underestimate MK. He'll send out double scv:s.
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That banshee is such a good decision.
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I expected nothing less out of this series
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ha ha ha ha ha
get rekt MKP
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this entire game is what the fuck
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You can still win Marineking! Don't leave
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Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 6% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 6% ★★★- Good game (1) 6% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (13) 72% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 11% 18 total votes Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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1 scv/viking hit squad. Ruthless.
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On December 26 2014 19:06 dazed25 wrote:
King of gg timings
That's the real battle here.
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i am surprised that marine king doesn't just float his buildings into the map corners.
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On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god
Fantasy is considered a god now?
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On December 26 2014 19:06 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 6% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 6% ★★★- Good game (1) 6% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (13) 72% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 11% 18 total votes Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:Fantasy is considered a god now?
Nah, MKP is
Dat micro
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On December 26 2014 19:06 dazed25 wrote:
King of gg timings
fantasy gg timings > king of gg timings
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On December 26 2014 19:06 Greenei wrote:
i am surprised that marine king doesn't just float his building into the map corners.
The draw counter doesn't go if you're mining. He'd only do that to be BM.
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On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro
yeah i'm impressed that he saved his once scv with the medivac
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looks like it'll be another 3-0
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On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro
2-0 is ezpz against dat micro
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On December 26 2014 19:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro yeah i'm impressed that he saved his once scv with the medivac
Only cause he had nothing to macro at home. :D
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It must be so annoying for Wolf and Brendan to have to hold their mikes in their hands.
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On December 26 2014 19:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro yeah i'm impressed that he saved his once scv with the medivac
lol :D
anyway he had no macro to do anymore, hard to impress me with micro at that point. but what he tried was cute for sure.
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It feels like MK has lost mostly due to his bad macro, floating tons of minerals, getting supply blocked, building in his tanks and whatnot. It's a different game if he doesn't mess that up.
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On December 26 2014 19:10 Heartland wrote:
It feels like MK has lost mostly due to his bad macro, floating tons of minerals, getting supply blocked, building in his tanks and whatnot. It's a different game if he doesn't mess that up.
So if he plays better he might win? :D
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On December 26 2014 19:09 usopsama wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro 2-0 is ezpz against dat micro
well kespa > micro
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On December 26 2014 19:11 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:10 Heartland wrote:
It feels like MK has lost mostly due to his bad macro, floating tons of minerals, getting supply blocked, building in his tanks and whatnot. It's a different game if he doesn't mess that up. So if he plays better he might win? :D
I know that sounds insane
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So the recap of yesterday was praise Kespa and woe be to non-KR Koreans (all one of them that lost). So after Invasion beats CJ, Yoe beats MVP, and DPix beats MVP, what kind of recap will we get for today's matches?
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On December 26 2014 19:12 Circumstance wrote:
So the recap of yesterday was praise Kespa and woe be to non-KR Koreans (all one of them that lost). So after Invasion beats CJ, Yoe beats MVP, and DPix beats MVP, what kind of recap will we get for today's matches?
Choya is dead
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On December 26 2014 19:11 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:09 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro 2-0 is ezpz against dat micro well kespa > micro
Fantasy got good only after he left SKT. Like their every other Terran.
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On December 26 2014 19:12 Circumstance wrote:
So the recap of yesterday was praise Kespa and woe be to non-KR Koreans (all one of them that lost). So after Invasion beats CJ, Yoe beats MVP, and DPix beats MVP, what kind of recap will we get for today's matches?
Death to Kespa, of course.
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On December 26 2014 19:13 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:11 Shellshock wrote:On December 26 2014 19:09 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro 2-0 is ezpz against dat micro well kespa > micro Fantasy got good only after he left SKT. Like their every other Terran.
Did Bravo get good?
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On December 26 2014 19:13 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:11 Shellshock wrote:On December 26 2014 19:09 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro 2-0 is ezpz against dat micro well kespa > micro Fantasy got good only after he left SKT. Like their every other Terran.
dream's looking good while on SKT. but dream was always godly so it's a moot point i guess.
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On December 26 2014 19:13 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:13 Ej_ wrote:On December 26 2014 19:11 Shellshock wrote:On December 26 2014 19:09 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro 2-0 is ezpz against dat micro well kespa > micro Fantasy got good only after he left SKT. Like their every other Terran. Did Bravo get good?
Won his last PL game.
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On December 26 2014 19:13 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:12 Circumstance wrote:
So the recap of yesterday was praise Kespa and woe be to non-KR Koreans (all one of them that lost). So after Invasion beats CJ, Yoe beats MVP, and DPix beats MVP, what kind of recap will we get for today's matches? Death to Kespa, of course.
fake kespa esf transplants can't substitute for real kespa!! /s
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On December 26 2014 19:13 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:13 Ej_ wrote:On December 26 2014 19:11 Shellshock wrote:On December 26 2014 19:09 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro 2-0 is ezpz against dat micro well kespa > micro Fantasy got good only after he left SKT. Like their every other Terran. Did Bravo get good?
He's better now than he was on SKT, I'll admit.
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On December 26 2014 19:14 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:13 Heartland wrote:On December 26 2014 19:13 Ej_ wrote:On December 26 2014 19:11 Shellshock wrote:On December 26 2014 19:09 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro 2-0 is ezpz against dat micro well kespa > micro Fantasy got good only after he left SKT. Like their every other Terran. Did Bravo get good? Won his last PL game.
10/10 player
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On December 26 2014 19:12 Circumstance wrote:
So the recap of yesterday was praise Kespa and woe be to non-KR Koreans (all one of them that lost). So after Invasion beats CJ, Yoe beats MVP, and DPix beats MVP, what kind of recap will we get for today's matches?
Legit question
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On December 26 2014 19:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:13 Ej_ wrote:On December 26 2014 19:11 Shellshock wrote:On December 26 2014 19:09 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro 2-0 is ezpz against dat micro well kespa > micro Fantasy got good only after he left SKT. Like their every other Terran. dream's looking good while on SKT. but dream was always godly so it's a moot point i guess.
not godly when you have a sub 50% win rate matchup as much as I like him
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On December 26 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On December 26 2014 19:13 Ej_ wrote:On December 26 2014 19:11 Shellshock wrote:On December 26 2014 19:09 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro 2-0 is ezpz against dat micro well kespa > micro Fantasy got good only after he left SKT. Like their every other Terran. dream's looking good while on SKT. but dream was always godly so it's a moot point i guess. not godly when you have a sub 50% win rate matchup as much as I like him
sorry i was just being biased.
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On December 26 2014 19:14 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:14 Ej_ wrote:On December 26 2014 19:13 Heartland wrote:On December 26 2014 19:13 Ej_ wrote:On December 26 2014 19:11 Shellshock wrote:On December 26 2014 19:09 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro 2-0 is ezpz against dat micro well kespa > micro Fantasy got good only after he left SKT. Like their every other Terran. Did Bravo get good? Won his last PL game. 10/10 player
so far better than MKC
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On December 26 2014 19:14 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:14 Ej_ wrote:On December 26 2014 19:13 Heartland wrote:On December 26 2014 19:13 Ej_ wrote:On December 26 2014 19:11 Shellshock wrote:On December 26 2014 19:09 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:08 Lorning wrote:On December 26 2014 19:07 usopsama wrote:On December 26 2014 19:05 Lorning wrote:
Ahahah what a god Fantasy is considered a god now? Nah, MKP is Dat micro 2-0 is ezpz against dat micro well kespa > micro Fantasy got good only after he left SKT. Like their every other Terran. Did Bravo get good? Won his last PL game. 10/10 player
better than literally all of KT Rolster.
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If only oov had fielded fanta in the pl finals
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MarineKing...why did you keep the depot down? I don't understand.
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On December 26 2014 19:16 Heartland wrote:
If only oov had fielded fanta in the pl finals
They were already humiliated enough. Why would you want it worse D:
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On December 26 2014 19:17 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:16 Heartland wrote:
If only oov had fielded fanta in the pl finals They were already humiliated enough. Why would you want it worse D:
Cyberbullies like you are not going to make me stop being a fairweather fan!
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Can we get a kill count on that Mine?
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No matter how terribly things are going, watching MKP lose in hilarious fashion always brings a smile to my face.
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i really wanted this to be a 5 game series, so bad
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Lol MKC. Almost as bad as Flash.
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if you tilt your head back and make salt shaker motions with you hand you can actually taste mkps salt levels.
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China6329 Posts
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Biggest facepalm... Well not ever. But at least a big one.
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man my internet is deciding to be a bitch right when marineking sets himself to lose an attack.
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Why couldnt Flash get MarineKing
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If this had started at the normal time, Byul would still be alive right now. SPOTV saving esnores.
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The tears of MarineKing fans are delicious.
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still, supplies are not so different
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United States97276 Posts
On December 26 2014 19:19 lastride wrote:Why couldnt Flash get MarineKing
He played bad enough that day he might have still lost
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Isn't MarineKing even ahead now? o_o
edit: ok, maybe not. xD
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Wow, Wolf doesnt seem to notice that MK has better economy and supply.
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MK not on point today, but fuck yeah Fantasyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 11% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5) 56% ★★★- Good game (2) 22% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 11% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 4?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 13% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (4) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 25% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 13% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 10% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (5) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 30% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs MarineKing Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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United States97276 Posts
I think he actually had a chance if he didn't attack terribly there
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
The fuck was that, MKP :D
Fantasy in Ro16, first time since last OSL, glorious day.
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That last gg timming ....
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Haahhaa oh wow that just made my morning, now I'm ready to spend a long and annoying evening with my cousins.
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my internet cut out in this moment that they're talking about, damn
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On December 26 2014 19:20 usopsama wrote:The tears of MarineKing fans are delicious.
For once I agree with you
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On December 26 2014 19:20 Shellshock wrote:He played bad enough that day he might have still lost
He played bad but not this bad...
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If they say tilt one more time, so help me god...
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I mean even if he lost that fight he was still fine
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I would slap MK after the game if I were Choya. This kid will never change...
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I mean the whole time Wolf called MK out of the game he was ahead in supply, both scv and army, and ahead in upgrade...
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United States97276 Posts
On December 26 2014 19:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:20 usopsama wrote:The tears of MarineKing fans are delicious. For once I agree with you
but there aren't really any tears in the thread
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On December 26 2014 19:19 lastride wrote:Why couldnt Flash get MarineKing
then 1 of them would qualify, that's kind of BS towards player that played well and still didn't
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On December 26 2014 19:22 Squat wrote:
Haahhaa oh wow that just made my morning, now I'm ready to spend a long and annoying evening with my cousins.
just imagine that they are all mk
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On December 26 2014 19:22 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On December 26 2014 19:20 usopsama wrote:The tears of MarineKing fans are delicious. For once I agree with you but there aren't really any tears in the thread
did Lorning commit a sudoku yet
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On December 26 2014 19:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:20 usopsama wrote:The tears of MarineKing fans are delicious. For once I agree with you
God, I'm so sad MKP is doing well again. He's in both SPL and GSL and he just got second in the HOT6 cup
sad life
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how can anyone like MKP? He's mental state is similar to a 14 years old girl. Looks to me that it's actually worse than it used to be 2 years ago.
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Happy for Fanta, maybe he is on his way back
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On December 26 2014 19:20 Heartland wrote:
still, supplies are not so different
On December 26 2014 19:21 KoRStarvid wrote:
Wow, Wolf doesnt seem to notice that MK has better economy and supply.
On December 26 2014 19:21 Swisslink wrote:
Isn't MarineKing even ahead now? o_o
edit: ok, maybe not. xD
This is why Wolf gets paid to do this.
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I really hope Fantasy goes far
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Well i knew MKP² would be irrelevant again soon, but cmon this was just sad
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On December 26 2014 19:23 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:22 Squat wrote:
Haahhaa oh wow that just made my morning, now I'm ready to spend a long and annoying evening with my cousins. just imagine that they are all mk
Well they're all short and not likely to ever win anything, so the analogy isn't that far off.
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Choya's power is already fading, MVP is going to crumble in PL.
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And that folks, was the only good starcraft 2 action you'll see until Monday
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MKP has definitely made a comeback by qualifying for these tournaments but has he been tested at all in any match up outside of TvP?
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On December 26 2014 19:24 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:23 Heartland wrote:On December 26 2014 19:22 Squat wrote:
Haahhaa oh wow that just made my morning, now I'm ready to spend a long and annoying evening with my cousins. just imagine that they are all mk Well they're all short and not likely to ever win anything, so the analogy isn't that far off.
Almost spat out my coffee there, lol xD
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Eh, I'm pretty content, Valdes.
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United States97276 Posts
On December 26 2014 19:25 dazed25 wrote:
MKP has definitely made a comeback by qualifying for these tournaments but has he been tested at all in any match up outside of TvP?
He somehow managed to 2-0 Dark in the GSL qualifier who is pretty good but we'll never get to see how the games went
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So 7 toss 5 terrans und 4 zergs. Despite the maps still looks like a balanced race distrubution to me
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On December 26 2014 19:26 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:25 dazed25 wrote:
MKP has definitely made a comeback by qualifying for these tournaments but has he been tested at all in any match up outside of TvP? He somehow managed to 2-0 Dark in the GSL qualifier who is pretty good but we'll never get to see how the games went
he probably did that mass bio push off rax-cc-cc and Dark just prepared for it in PL and crushed him
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4-5-7 is damn close to perfect balance.
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MarineKing was crushed by the terror
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On December 26 2014 19:26 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:25 dazed25 wrote:
MKP has definitely made a comeback by qualifying for these tournaments but has he been tested at all in any match up outside of TvP? He somehow managed to 2-0 Dark in the GSL qualifier who is pretty good but we'll never get to see how the games went
Probably two 2 rax :D
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United States97276 Posts
On December 26 2014 19:27 Circumstance wrote:
4-5-7 is damn close to perfect balance.
but it's not 5-5-6 so I'm going to go make an angry battle.net thread about it
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Too bad Super won his match, 6-5-5 would have been perfect distribution
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Dream is such a fun player to watch, his thors rock and I"m so excited to see him again!
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On December 26 2014 19:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Dream is such a fun player to watch, his thors rock and I"m so excited to see him again!
don't fucking jynx him or I'll cut you in half
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I'm happy that mk mixed up his gg timing though. Otherwise you get too predictable.
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That was more like IdrA vs MMA GG timing from MK there.
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On December 26 2014 19:27 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:27 Circumstance wrote:
4-5-7 is damn close to perfect balance. but it's not 5-5-6 so I'm going to go make an angry battle.net thread about it
5-5-5 1 random best balance ever reached
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On December 26 2014 19:28 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Dream is such a fun player to watch, his thors rock and I"m so excited to see him again! don't fucking jynx him or I'll cut you in half
i dont jinx players, sgtk does
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On December 26 2014 19:28 Pino wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:27 Shellshock wrote:On December 26 2014 19:27 Circumstance wrote:
4-5-7 is damn close to perfect balance. but it's not 5-5-6 so I'm going to go make an angry battle.net thread about it 5-5-5 1 random best balance ever reached
save us baloon
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On December 26 2014 19:28 Pino wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:27 Shellshock wrote:On December 26 2014 19:27 Circumstance wrote:
4-5-7 is damn close to perfect balance. but it's not 5-5-6 so I'm going to go make an angry battle.net thread about it 5-5-5 1 random best balance ever reached
4-4-4-4, far superior distribution.
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Fantasy winning makes me so happy. I love cheering on the old pros who I used to cheer for in Brood War like Flash, Jaedong, and Stork. Fantasy especially though because the others all had their time in the sun during Brood War but Fantasy was just getting up there right when the rules were changed on him. His victory against Flash in the last Brood War Proleague final was incredible to watch and him just missing out on the last OSL was heartbreaking. Gogo Fantasy!!
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On December 26 2014 19:27 TheDwf wrote:
Too bad Super won his match, 6-5-5 would have been perfect distribution
...too bad Stats won his match.
I mean that doesn't give us 6-5-5, but... priorities, man.
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On December 26 2014 19:37 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:27 TheDwf wrote:
Too bad Super won his match, 6-5-5 would have been perfect distribution ...too bad Stats won his match. I mean that doesn't give us 6-5-5, but... priorities, man.
Fucking Stats
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Any good games today? Happy Leenock did well! :D
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On December 26 2014 19:37 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:27 TheDwf wrote:
Too bad Super won his match, 6-5-5 would have been perfect distribution ...too bad Stats won his match. I mean that doesn't give us 6-5-5, but... priorities, man.
you are a weird KT fan...
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On December 26 2014 19:48 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:37 pure.Wasted wrote:On December 26 2014 19:27 TheDwf wrote:
Too bad Super won his match, 6-5-5 would have been perfect distribution ...too bad Stats won his match. I mean that doesn't give us 6-5-5, but... priorities, man. you are a weird KT fan...
Priorities, man.
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Very glad about the results today. Didn't care much for Super vs Byul, but all the other players I wanted won their games.
Sweet.
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On December 26 2014 19:23 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2014 19:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On December 26 2014 19:20 usopsama wrote:The tears of MarineKing fans are delicious. For once I agree with you God, I'm so sad MKP is doing well again. He's in both SPL and GSL and he just got second in the HOT6 cup sad life
hehe exactly. Thats why I wont subscribe to the kong concept. I see it as a flawed concept.
Nice 1 Fanta btw !
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that was early .. need the vod now
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Was surprised that nobody believed in Super when I checked the first 2 pages for predictions. I believed, hell yeah!
+ Show Spoiler +
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On December 26 2014 20:48 AsnSensation wrote:Was surprised that nobody believed in Super when I checked the first 2 pages for predictions. I believed, hell yeah! + Show Spoiler +
I voted Super in the poll but didn't feel like predicting the other results
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nice1 DP.Fantasy
Showing that crybaby who's boss.
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Did not see my boy Fantasy winning 3-0...
In honor of the Crown Prince, JUNG! MYUNG! HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!
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I hope fantasy can make a huge return and win S2SL. That would be a huge comeback and good way to start the 2015 season to qualify for blizcon.
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Fantasy and Leenock. Literal gods.
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MKP did go to piss in his break. Just an FYI
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wow mkp got rekt, choya's magic is over i assume
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On December 26 2014 19:28 Heartland wrote:
I'm happy that mk mixed up his gg timing though. Otherwise you get too predictable.
ROFL that made me laugh
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Just realised 50% of my most favouritest Koreans won today. GLORIOUS.
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Leenock played impressive against a YongHwa who was playing quite amazing prior to this match (but got his PvZ exposed a lot). I predicted ByuL because I wanted to have 5 Z in the ro16, but also expected Super to go through because of his current form.
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United States97276 Posts
On December 26 2014 20:48 AsnSensation wrote:Was surprised that nobody believed in Super when I checked the first 2 pages for predictions. I believed, hell yeah! + Show Spoiler +
I'm kind of surprised how often people pick byul to win in tournaments or qualifiers. He had a decent run in proleague last season for IM I guess but his career is fairly underwhelming imo
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This is why TvP is the MU with the least change since WoL
R.I.P. Bbyong
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Wow incredible results for Koreigners :D
Now that i finnaly has internets i will watch the VODs.
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DID MARINE KING CRY AGAIN AFTER LOSING TO A GR8 TVT PLAYER.
someone please tell me he cried delicious ::salty:: tears ;-:
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United States97276 Posts
On December 27 2014 05:14 Gamegene wrote:
DID MARINE KING CRY AGAIN AFTER LOSING TO A GR8 TVT PLAYER.
someone please tell me he cried delicious ::salty:: tears ;-:
I'll let you know when he plays a great tvt player
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Russian Federation1612 Posts
On December 12 2014 09:10 Jenia6109 wrote:Players that will not win this SSL no matter what: Terminator, Scarlett, sKyHigh, GuMiho, Patience, Jim, San, Super, Bbyong, YongHwa, Leenock, MarineKing
That was a nice hunting week! So much trophy!
![[image loading]](http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/193140-the-ten-best-videogame-puppies-ever-/Puppies10-620x.jpg)
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predicting the underdogs to lose.
some really brave predictions there!!
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your Country52797 Posts
On December 27 2014 06:33 Jenia6109 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 09:10 Jenia6109 wrote:Players that will not win this SSL no matter what: Terminator, Scarlett, sKyHigh, GuMiho, Patience, Jim, San, Super, Bbyong, YongHwa, Leenock, MarineKing That was a nice hunting week! So much trophy!
Those remaining players are gonna be the final four
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United States97276 Posts
On December 27 2014 06:17 Undead1993 wrote:
so much salt shellbot
They both sucked. I'm only salty about San
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On December 27 2014 06:33 Jenia6109 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 09:10 Jenia6109 wrote:Players that will not win this SSL no matter what: Terminator, Scarlett, sKyHigh, GuMiho, Patience, Jim, San, Super, Bbyong, YongHwa, Leenock, MarineKing That was a nice hunting week! So much trophy!
Inb4 Gumiho first S2SL champion
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Ugh, I see MK still desperately needs mind control, and to stop taking suicidal engagements when behind. If he learned a more patient, defensive style he could be a very solid, balanced player. Instead he just keeps on digging his own grave...
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On December 27 2014 06:03 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2014 05:14 Gamegene wrote:
DID MARINE KING CRY AGAIN AFTER LOSING TO A GR8 TVT PLAYER.
someone please tell me he cried delicious ::salty:: tears ;-: I'll let you know when he plays a great tvt player
The 3-0 is pretty telling.
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On December 28 2014 05:21 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2014 06:03 Shellshock wrote:On December 27 2014 05:14 Gamegene wrote:
DID MARINE KING CRY AGAIN AFTER LOSING TO A GR8 TVT PLAYER.
someone please tell me he cried delicious ::salty:: tears ;-: I'll let you know when he plays a great tvt player The 3-0 is pretty telling.
that was 3-0 over Idra
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United States252 Posts
Sigh MarineKings reign was short, but sweet. Forever a fan.
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On December 28 2014 05:39 LastManProductions wrote:
Sigh MarineKings reign was short, but sweet. Forever a fan.
he hasn't reigned over anything since like 2011-12
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MKC's " reign " was 2 MLG's
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On December 27 2014 07:01 Shellshock wrote:They both sucked. I'm only salty about San
Rip San
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On December 28 2014 08:22 Dodgin wrote:
MKC's " reign " was 2 MLG's
you mean the ones whereHuK and DRG got tired of winning in?
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