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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 02 2014 04:02 GMT
#9921
On November 02 2014 12:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 12:56 Zealously wrote:
On November 02 2014 12:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 02 2014 12:48 redviper wrote:
Life finds a way! That was just incredible stuff by him. Zest was outplayed completely. Had to rely on DT cheese to win game 4 and tried cannon cheese in game 5. Best player in the world my ass.


LOL completely outplayed. The only game that didn't come down to basic stupid mistakes was won by Zest (on Nimbus). Otherwise the series was horrible, far below Zest usual standards, with a lot of mistakes and questionable moves from both sides. But Zest was not being outplayed by any means, he just decided it would be fun to beat himself...


Classic lack of understanding of what makes Life so good. Do you really think people just coincidentally make so many more mistakes against Life, every tournament, every year? Really?


I wonder where his magical powers to make his opponents play bad were gone when he dropped out of code A. He's not a magician. He chose good builds to put Zest out of his comfort zone and was lucky enough to have Zest making one of the biggest throws of the year in game 5. Nothing more, and it's already a lot. But Zest beat himself. Don't doubt that.


Players beat themselves when playing against Life for... two years? This isn't a one-off occurance, this is a pattern that rarely breaks. When Life wins, players usually make uncharacteristic mistakes against him. We're talking something like 100+ offline Bo3/Bo5/Bo7 since September 2012, does that not sound absurd to you? Zest might be a step above most players Life faces, but the manner Zest lost in is not by any means unique. It's common against Life, every time.
AdministratorBreak the chains
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 02 2014 04:02 GMT
#9922
On November 02 2014 13:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 12:55 redviper wrote:
On November 02 2014 12:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
What a shitty day for me personally (well not really, but my favorites all lost -.-)
First JD, now Zest.
The only thing that would make it worse is Taeja winning now, so PLS soO, PLS win this


I hate Taeja but I almost want to support him just to see the tears!

You are a weird person

Yeah, how could he possibly hate TaeJa?
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 02 2014 04:02 GMT
#9923
On November 02 2014 13:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 12:55 redviper wrote:
On November 02 2014 12:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
What a shitty day for me personally (well not really, but my favorites all lost -.-)
First JD, now Zest.
The only thing that would make it worse is Taeja winning now, so PLS soO, PLS win this


I hate Taeja but I almost want to support him just to see the tears!

You are a weird person


Red Viper meta going on here
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
November 02 2014 04:02 GMT
#9924
On November 02 2014 13:00 SFDuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 12:56 Yorkie wrote:
Artosis giving soO that sick credit for all that he's accomplished

A bit too much, perhaps. Sure, all those 2nd places are impressive, but to call it the greatest achievement of any SC2 player ever? Mvp actually won GSL 4 times. Taeja has 11 premiers. I'd rank both of those above a bunch of silvers any day.

Don't think he really meant that it was the greatest achievement by an sc2 player ever. But I mean seriously making it to 4 straight GSl finals in the era of 3 finals per year is absofuckinglutely an insane thing to do. No matter if he won them or not
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
November 02 2014 04:02 GMT
#9925
On November 02 2014 13:01 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:00 Superbanana wrote:
Im very confused with the foxtrot veto...


Catz

Makes sense o_O
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 02 2014 04:02 GMT
#9926
This is the match I've been waiting for 11 hours. It better not sucks.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
November 02 2014 04:02 GMT
#9927
On November 02 2014 13:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 12:55 redviper wrote:
On November 02 2014 12:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
What a shitty day for me personally (well not really, but my favorites all lost -.-)
First JD, now Zest.
The only thing that would make it worse is Taeja winning now, so PLS soO, PLS win this


I hate Taeja but I almost want to support him just to see the tears!

You are a weird person

Your nicknames are already confusing and weird.
cpower
Profile Joined October 2013
228 Posts
November 02 2014 04:02 GMT
#9928
On November 02 2014 12:58 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 12:57 Yorkie wrote:
Hmm even with the brackets the way they are Artosis thinks Taej has a better shot than MMA/Bomber. I think their chances are pretty even


Bomber > Taeja > MMA in terms of recent form, I'd say.

yes but talent level
Taeja > Bomber >> MMA
when he is on fire, nobody can stop him.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 02 2014 04:03 GMT
#9929
On November 02 2014 13:02 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 12:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 02 2014 12:56 Zealously wrote:
On November 02 2014 12:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 02 2014 12:48 redviper wrote:
Life finds a way! That was just incredible stuff by him. Zest was outplayed completely. Had to rely on DT cheese to win game 4 and tried cannon cheese in game 5. Best player in the world my ass.


LOL completely outplayed. The only game that didn't come down to basic stupid mistakes was won by Zest (on Nimbus). Otherwise the series was horrible, far below Zest usual standards, with a lot of mistakes and questionable moves from both sides. But Zest was not being outplayed by any means, he just decided it would be fun to beat himself...


Classic lack of understanding of what makes Life so good. Do you really think people just coincidentally make so many more mistakes against Life, every tournament, every year? Really?


I wonder where his magical powers to make his opponents play bad were gone when he dropped out of code A. He's not a magician. He chose good builds to put Zest out of his comfort zone and was lucky enough to have Zest making one of the biggest throws of the year in game 5. Nothing more, and it's already a lot. But Zest beat himself. Don't doubt that.


Players beat themselves when playing against Life for... two years? This isn't a one-off occurance, this is a pattern that rarely breaks. When Life wins, players usually make uncharacteristic mistakes against him. We're talking something like 100+ offline Bo3/Bo5/Bo7 since September 2012, does that not sound absurd to you? Zest might be a step above most players Life faces, but the manner Zest lost in is not by any means unique. It's common against Life, every time.

TaeJa does this a lot too, he forces his opponent to play badly
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 02 2014 04:03 GMT
#9930
Alright I'm back from my shower, how was the trash talk??
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
November 02 2014 04:03 GMT
#9931
According to liquipedia MC has 6 premiere wins.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24230 Posts
November 02 2014 04:03 GMT
#9932
On November 02 2014 13:02 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 12:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 02 2014 12:56 Zealously wrote:
On November 02 2014 12:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 02 2014 12:48 redviper wrote:
Life finds a way! That was just incredible stuff by him. Zest was outplayed completely. Had to rely on DT cheese to win game 4 and tried cannon cheese in game 5. Best player in the world my ass.


LOL completely outplayed. The only game that didn't come down to basic stupid mistakes was won by Zest (on Nimbus). Otherwise the series was horrible, far below Zest usual standards, with a lot of mistakes and questionable moves from both sides. But Zest was not being outplayed by any means, he just decided it would be fun to beat himself...


Classic lack of understanding of what makes Life so good. Do you really think people just coincidentally make so many more mistakes against Life, every tournament, every year? Really?


I wonder where his magical powers to make his opponents play bad were gone when he dropped out of code A. He's not a magician. He chose good builds to put Zest out of his comfort zone and was lucky enough to have Zest making one of the biggest throws of the year in game 5. Nothing more, and it's already a lot. But Zest beat himself. Don't doubt that.


Players beat themselves when playing against Life for... two years? This isn't a one-off occurance, this is a pattern that rarely breaks. When Life wins, players usually make uncharacteristic mistakes against him. We're talking something like 100+ offline Bo3/Bo5/Bo7 since September 2012, does that not sound absurd to you? Zest might be a step above most players Life faces, but the manner Zest lost in is not by any means unique. It's common against Life, every time.


Agree to disagree.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
November 02 2014 04:03 GMT
#9933
On November 02 2014 13:03 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Alright I'm back from my shower, how was the trash talk??

whack
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 02 2014 04:03 GMT
#9934
On November 02 2014 13:03 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Alright I'm back from my shower, how was the trash talk??

Awful
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 02 2014 04:03 GMT
#9935
On November 02 2014 13:03 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Alright I'm back from my shower, how was the trash talk??

Epic
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
November 02 2014 04:03 GMT
#9936
On November 02 2014 13:02 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:01 Vertical wrote:
i didnt realize today is the GSL grand finals already

Lol, it might as well be

Nah, if this was the finals of a tournament with prep time, we wouldn't be seeing Taeja in it.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
November 02 2014 04:03 GMT
#9937
He 3-0d Rain at WCS Global Finals season 2 last year after Rain made the finals in OSL that season. People need to drop that 'Taeja can't hold up against the Kespa elite in offline series"
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
November 02 2014 04:03 GMT
#9938
On November 02 2014 13:02 cpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 12:58 Cheren wrote:
On November 02 2014 12:57 Yorkie wrote:
Hmm even with the brackets the way they are Artosis thinks Taej has a better shot than MMA/Bomber. I think their chances are pretty even


Bomber > Taeja > MMA in terms of recent form, I'd say.

yes but talent level
Taeja > Bomber >> MMA
when he is on fire, nobody can stop him.


2011 MMA was better than Bomber's ever been.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
November 02 2014 04:03 GMT
#9939
On November 02 2014 13:03 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Alright I'm back from my shower, how was the trash talk??


As respectful as it gets rly
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
691175002
Profile Joined August 2010
122 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-02 04:04:31
November 02 2014 04:03 GMT
#9940
On November 02 2014 13:02 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:00 SFDuality wrote:
On November 02 2014 12:56 Yorkie wrote:
Artosis giving soO that sick credit for all that he's accomplished

A bit too much, perhaps. Sure, all those 2nd places are impressive, but to call it the greatest achievement of any SC2 player ever? Mvp actually won GSL 4 times. Taeja has 11 premiers. I'd rank both of those above a bunch of silvers any day.


The difference is that Soo's results are consecutive. MVP fell to code a between GSL wins. Taeja's 11 premiers are over the span of 3 years and in much easier events. It might not be the highest peak but no player has ever done anything anywhere near this consistent before.

The funny thing is that half the time casters point out that spread out results are a lot more impressive.

A lot of players are strong for a time, but being there, falling and crawling back is arguably even more difficult.

Especially considering that MVP won a GSL while literally being unable to correctly play bio due to wrist injuries.
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