RO16 Groups: Group A: viOLet, Scarlett, iaguz, HerO Group B: Hyun, Jaedong, TaeJa, Pigbaby Group C: Check, Jim, Bomber, HuK Group D: Polt, Neeb, Heart, MajOr
Poll: Group of Death?
Group B: HyuN, Jaedong, TaeJa, Pigbaby (345)
92%
Group A: viOLet, Scarlett, Iaguz, HerO (13)
3%
Group C: Check, Jim, Bomber, HuK (8)
2%
Group D: Polt, Neeb, Heart, MajOr (5)
1%
All of the groups are equally difficult. (4)
1%
375 total votes
Your vote: Group of Death?
(Vote): Group A: viOLet, Scarlett, Iaguz, HerO (Vote): Group B: HyuN, Jaedong, TaeJa, Pigbaby (Vote): Group C: Check, Jim, Bomber, HuK (Vote): Group D: Polt, Neeb, Heart, MajOr (Vote): All of the groups are equally difficult.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs Slam Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Bomber vs Slam Game 2?
★★★- Good game (5)
71%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
14%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs Slam Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Bomber vs Slam Game 3?
★★★- Good game (6)
67%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
33%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs Slam Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
25%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MajOr vs puCK Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MajOr vs puCK Game 2?
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
50%
★★★- Good game (2)
33%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
17%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MajOr vs puCK Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MajOr vs puCK Game 3?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
67%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
33%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MajOr vs puCK Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
50%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?
★★★- Good game (5)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (5)
50%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
★★★★- Highly recommended game (7)
78%
★★★- Good game (2)
22%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
22%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
11%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?
★★★- Good game (4)
67%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?
★★★- Good game (2)
40%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
40%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
75%
★★★- Good game (1)
25%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
40%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
40%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
★★★- Good game (3)
60%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Bomber, MajOr, puCK, Slam in WCS AM S3 Premier starts in MajOr must win this! - Bomber is at ~ 99.99 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 72.35 % of the time Bomber wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 27.65 % of the time Bomber loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 99.99 %. ------------------------------------------------- - MajOr is at ~ 2.64 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 63.83 % of the time MajOr wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 4.12 %. ~ 36.17 % of the time MajOr loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.04 %. ------------------------------------------------- - puCK is at ~ 0.41 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.63 % of the time puCK wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 1.09 %. ~ 62.37 % of the time puCK loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.01 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Slam is at ~ 0.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 26.19 % of the time Slam wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.03 %. ~ 73.81 % of the time Slam loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.01 %.
Bomber, MajOr, puCK, Slam in WCS AM S3 Premier starts in MajOr must win this! - Bomber is at ~ 99.99 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 72.63 % of the time Bomber wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 27.37 % of the time Bomber loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 99.99 %. ------------------------------------------------- - MajOr is at ~ 3.82 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 63.23 % of the time MajOr wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 5.85 %. ~ 36.77 % of the time MajOr loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.31 %. ------------------------------------------------- - puCK is at ~ 0.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.84 % of the time puCK wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.99 %. ~ 62.16 % of the time puCK loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.01 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Slam is at ~ 0.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 26.3 % of the time Slam wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.02 %. ~ 73.7 % of the time Slam loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.01 %.
On August 14 2014 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote: If they want to announce a Red Bull sponsorship the right way they have to show the casters doing some extreme sports to really set the mood.
a huge curtain drops and rotterdam surfboards out of a shark tank full of redbull onto a hang glider and crashes into the caster desk while nathanias plays a guitar solo
On August 14 2014 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote: If they want to announce a Red Bull sponsorship the right way they have to show the casters doing some extreme sports to really set the mood.
a huge curtain drops and rotterdam surfboards out of a shark tank full of redbull onto a hang glider and crashes into the caster desk while nathanias plays a guitar solo
sharks in a tank of red bull, they must be pumped, I would stay the fuck away from those sharks lol
On August 14 2014 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote: If they want to announce a Red Bull sponsorship the right way they have to show the casters doing some extreme sports to really set the mood.
a huge curtain drops and rotterdam surfboards out of a shark tank full of redbull onto a hang glider and crashes into the caster desk while nathanias plays a guitar solo
sharks in a tank of red bull, they must be pumped, I would stay the fuck away from those sharks lol
On August 14 2014 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote: If they want to announce a Red Bull sponsorship the right way they have to show the casters doing some extreme sports to really set the mood.
a huge curtain drops and rotterdam surfboards out of a shark tank full of redbull onto a hang glider and crashes into the caster desk while nathanias plays a guitar solo
sharks in a tank of red bull, they must be pumped, I would stay the fuck away from those sharks lol
On August 14 2014 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote: If they want to announce a Red Bull sponsorship the right way they have to show the casters doing some extreme sports to really set the mood.
a huge curtain drops and rotterdam surfboards out of a shark tank full of redbull onto a hang glider and crashes into the caster desk while nathanias plays a guitar solo
The sharks should have lasers and Nathanias is shirtless with sunglasses. That would be perfect.
On August 14 2014 06:19 GumBa wrote: Youporn sponsor. They wanted to get into eSports
Rotterdam quietly sitting at a computer in the dark and clearly focused on the screen. His hands are not on the table but in the downstairs area. As it gets closer you see him playing SC2 with the keyboard and mouse on his lap and he looks at the screen and says, "What? This isn't that dicey". Cue the YouPorn logo.
On August 14 2014 06:19 GumBa wrote: Youporn sponsor. They wanted to get into eSports
Rotterdam quietly sitting at a computer in the dark and clearly focused on the screen. His hands are not on the table but in the downstairs area. As it gets closer you see him playing SC2 with the keyboard and mouse on his lap and he looks at the screen and says, "What? This isn't that dicey". Cue the YouPorn logo.
On August 14 2014 06:19 GumBa wrote: Youporn sponsor. They wanted to get into eSports
Rotterdam quietly sitting at a computer in the dark and clearly focused on the screen. His hands are not on the table but in the downstairs area. As it gets closer you see him playing SC2 with the keyboard and mouse on his lap and he looks at the screen and says, "What? This isn't that dicey". Cue the YouPorn logo.
Man this is priceless. I can even picture the ad in my head. This is so funny I can't breathe. You killed me ^^
Bomber is going to bitch slap Slam into WCS EU Challenger. He will actually cross regions to get away from the PTSD-triggering memories of what Bomber does to him here today.
Bomber spawns in the top right Slam spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Barracks first for Bomber. Slam goes hatchery first followed by a spawning pool.
3:00 Bomber is scouting! CC for Bomber. Slam gets an extractor.
4:00 Two refineries for Bomber. Bomber moving out with two marines. Overlord is going towards the side of the map and Bomber doesn't see it. Bomber getting a bunker next to his ramp. Factory for Bomber. Bomber getting a reactor.
5:00 Third CC for Bomber. Slam scouts with a zergling, which dies to the bunker. Starport for Bomber. Slam getting a third base.
Bomber spawns in the top right Slam spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Barracks first for Bomber. Slam goes hatchery first followed by a spawning pool.
3:00 Bomber is scouting! CC for Bomber. Slam gets an extractor.
4:00 Two refineries for Bomber. Bomber moving out with two marines. Overlord is going towards the side of the map and Bomber doesn't see it. Bomber getting a bunker next to his ramp. Factory for Bomber. Bomber getting a reactor.
5:00 Third CC for Bomber. Slam scouts with a zergling, which dies to the bunker. Starport for Bomber. Slam getting a third base.
6:00 Speed is half done for Slam. Two evolution chambers and a baneling nest for Slam. Cloaked banshee for Bomber. Bomber going up to 6 hellions. +1 melee attacks for Slam.
7:00 Bomber 57 vs Slam 71 Spore crawlers on the way for Slam. Two engineering bays for Bomber. Bomber getting two refineries in his natural. Stim for Bomber. Lair for Slam.
8:00 Bomber 65 vs Slam 80 +1/1 attack for Bomber. Banshee going for Slam's base. Slam leads 60-44 in workers.
9:00 Bomber 73 vs Slam 96 Bomber not getting a lot done with hellions despite only 17 zerglings being out for Slam. Spire and overlord speed for Slam Bomber getting two more barracks and an armory.
10:00 Bomber 92 vs Slam 101 +1/2 for Slam. Bomber finishing +1/1 and is getting combat shields. Factory for Bomber. Baneling speed for Slam. Fourth base and macro hatchery for slam.
Bomber spawns in the top right Slam spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Barracks first for Bomber. Slam goes hatchery first followed by a spawning pool.
3:00 Bomber is scouting! CC for Bomber. Slam gets an extractor.
4:00 Two refineries for Bomber. Bomber moving out with two marines. Overlord is going towards the side of the map and Bomber doesn't see it. Bomber getting a bunker next to his ramp. Factory for Bomber. Bomber getting a reactor.
5:00 Third CC for Bomber. Slam scouts with a zergling, which dies to the bunker. Starport for Bomber. Slam getting a third base.
6:00 Speed is half done for Slam. Two evolution chambers and a baneling nest for Slam. Cloaked banshee for Bomber. Bomber going up to 6 hellions. +1 melee attacks for Slam.
7:00 Bomber 57 vs Slam 71 Spore crawlers on the way for Slam. Two engineering bays for Bomber. Bomber getting two refineries in his natural. Stim for Bomber. Lair for Slam.
8:00 Bomber 65 vs Slam 80 +1/1 attack for Bomber. Banshee going for Slam's base. Slam leads 60-44 in workers.
9:00 Bomber 73 vs Slam 96 Bomber not getting a lot done with hellions despite only 17 zerglings being out for Slam. Spire and overlord speed for Slam Bomber getting two more barracks and an armory.
10:00 Bomber 92 vs Slam 101 +1/2 for Slam. Bomber finishing +1/1 and is getting combat shields. Factory for Bomber. Baneling speed for Slam. Fourth base and macro hatchery for slam.
11:00 Bomber 119 vs Slam 120 Slam engages in the center with only zerglings and gets a hellion before backing off. 11 mutalisks on the way. Combat shields finishing. A few banelings being morphed. Bomber has secured his third base. Bomber adding another barracks. Bomber getting 3 widow mines.
12:00 Bomber 151 vs Slam 153 Slam doesn't have a particularly large army. Bomber moving towards the fourth of Slam. Mutalisks kill a medivac and marine not with the rest of the army. Bomber backing off. Slam getting more drones.
13:00 Bomber 184 vs Slam 182 Slam getting 22 banelings. Widow mine kills a mutalisk. Fourth CC for Bomber is landing. +3/3 starts for Bomber.
14:00 Bomber 198vs Slam 200 Bomber engages in the lower gold. Slam loses a lot of mutalisks but manages to kill the army of Bomber.
15:00 Bomber 153 vs Slam 146 Enduring locusts and +1 missile attacks for Slam. PiG? Swarm host on the way. Thor for Bomber.
Bomber spawns in the top right Slam spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Barracks first for Bomber. Slam goes hatchery first followed by a spawning pool.
3:00 Bomber is scouting! CC for Bomber. Slam gets an extractor.
4:00 Two refineries for Bomber. Bomber moving out with two marines. Overlord is going towards the side of the map and Bomber doesn't see it. Bomber getting a bunker next to his ramp. Factory for Bomber. Bomber getting a reactor.
5:00 Third CC for Bomber. Slam scouts with a zergling, which dies to the bunker. Starport for Bomber. Slam getting a third base.
6:00 Speed is half done for Slam. Two evolution chambers and a baneling nest for Slam. Cloaked banshee for Bomber. Bomber going up to 6 hellions. +1 melee attacks for Slam.
7:00 Bomber 57 vs Slam 71 Spore crawlers on the way for Slam. Two engineering bays for Bomber. Bomber getting two refineries in his natural. Stim for Bomber. Lair for Slam.
8:00 Bomber 65 vs Slam 80 +1/1 attack for Bomber. Banshee going for Slam's base. Slam leads 60-44 in workers.
9:00 Bomber 73 vs Slam 96 Bomber not getting a lot done with hellions despite only 17 zerglings being out for Slam. Spire and overlord speed for Slam Bomber getting two more barracks and an armory.
10:00 Bomber 92 vs Slam 101 +1/2 for Slam. Bomber finishing +1/1 and is getting combat shields. Factory for Bomber. Baneling speed for Slam. Fourth base and macro hatchery for slam.
11:00 Bomber 119 vs Slam 120 Slam engages in the center with only zerglings and gets a hellion before backing off. 11 mutalisks on the way. Combat shields finishing. A few banelings being morphed. Bomber has secured his third base. Bomber adding another barracks. Bomber getting 3 widow mines.
12:00 Bomber 151 vs Slam 153 Slam doesn't have a particularly large army. Bomber moving towards the fourth of Slam. Mutalisks kill a medivac and marine not with the rest of the army. Bomber backing off. Slam getting more drones.
13:00 Bomber 184 vs Slam 182 Slam getting 22 banelings. Widow mine kills a mutalisk. Fourth CC for Bomber is landing. +3/3 starts for Bomber.
14:00 Bomber 198vs Slam 200 Bomber engages in the lower gold. Slam loses a lot of mutalisks but manages to kill the army of Bomber.
15:00 Bomber 153 vs Slam 146 Enduring locusts and +1 missile attacks for Slam. PiG? Swarm host on the way. Thor for Bomber.
16:00 Bomber 188 vs Slam 175 Slam nearly loses a lot to a widow mine but it doesn't go off. More swarm hosts on the way. Bomber going towards the fifth base, canceling it.
17:00 Bomber 192 vs Slam 200 Hive for Slam. 3/3 finishing for Bomber. +1 missile attacks finishing for Slam. Slam is up to 7 swarm hosts.
18:00 Bomber 200 vs Slam 197 Two more CCs for Bomber. The locusts are revealed. Widow mine kills a lot of banelings. Banelings blow up on a lot of the marines though.
19:00 Bomber 197 vs Slam 187 Slam morphing in more banelings at his fourth. Bomber goes towards the fourth base. Slam finishes the banelings and chases the marines.
20:00 Bomber 168 vs Slam 184 Slam has a lot of banelings near the third of Bomber. Bomber moves into a bunch of banelings. Bomber has the gold but Slam sees it. PF at Bomber's gold.
Bomber spawns in the top right Slam spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Barracks first for Bomber. Slam goes hatchery first followed by a spawning pool.
3:00 Bomber is scouting! CC for Bomber. Slam gets an extractor.
4:00 Two refineries for Bomber. Bomber moving out with two marines. Overlord is going towards the side of the map and Bomber doesn't see it. Bomber getting a bunker next to his ramp. Factory for Bomber. Bomber getting a reactor.
5:00 Third CC for Bomber. Slam scouts with a zergling, which dies to the bunker. Starport for Bomber. Slam getting a third base.
6:00 Speed is half done for Slam. Two evolution chambers and a baneling nest for Slam. Cloaked banshee for Bomber. Bomber going up to 6 hellions. +1 melee attacks for Slam.
7:00 Bomber 57 vs Slam 71 Spore crawlers on the way for Slam. Two engineering bays for Bomber. Bomber getting two refineries in his natural. Stim for Bomber. Lair for Slam.
8:00 Bomber 65 vs Slam 80 +1/1 attack for Bomber. Banshee going for Slam's base. Slam leads 60-44 in workers.
9:00 Bomber 73 vs Slam 96 Bomber not getting a lot done with hellions despite only 17 zerglings being out for Slam. Spire and overlord speed for Slam Bomber getting two more barracks and an armory.
10:00 Bomber 92 vs Slam 101 +1/2 for Slam. Bomber finishing +1/1 and is getting combat shields. Factory for Bomber. Baneling speed for Slam. Fourth base and macro hatchery for slam.
11:00 Bomber 119 vs Slam 120 Slam engages in the center with only zerglings and gets a hellion before backing off. 11 mutalisks on the way. Combat shields finishing. A few banelings being morphed. Bomber has secured his third base. Bomber adding another barracks. Bomber getting 3 widow mines.
12:00 Bomber 151 vs Slam 153 Slam doesn't have a particularly large army. Bomber moving towards the fourth of Slam. Mutalisks kill a medivac and marine not with the rest of the army. Bomber backing off. Slam getting more drones.
13:00 Bomber 184 vs Slam 182 Slam getting 22 banelings. Widow mine kills a mutalisk. Fourth CC for Bomber is landing. +3/3 starts for Bomber.
14:00 Bomber 198vs Slam 200 Bomber engages in the lower gold. Slam loses a lot of mutalisks but manages to kill the army of Bomber.
15:00 Bomber 153 vs Slam 146 Enduring locusts and +1 missile attacks for Slam. PiG? Swarm host on the way. Thor for Bomber.
16:00 Bomber 188 vs Slam 175 Slam nearly loses a lot to a widow mine but it doesn't go off. More swarm hosts on the way. Bomber going towards the fifth base, canceling it.
17:00 Bomber 192 vs Slam 200 Hive for Slam. 3/3 finishing for Bomber. +1 missile attacks finishing for Slam. Slam is up to 7 swarm hosts.
18:00 Bomber 200 vs Slam 197 Two more CCs for Bomber. The locusts are revealed. Widow mine kills a lot of banelings. Banelings blow up on a lot of the marines though.
19:00 Bomber 197 vs Slam 187 Slam morphing in more banelings at his fourth. Bomber goes towards the fourth base. Slam finishes the banelings and chases the marines.
20:00 Bomber 168 vs Slam 184 Slam has a lot of banelings near the third of Bomber. Bomber moves into a bunch of banelings. Bomber has the gold but Slam sees it. PF at Bomber's gold.
21:00 Bomber 184 vs Slam 191 Slam taking a fifth base. +3/3 for Slam. Bomber going for a doom drop. Lots of the medivacs are low on health. Slam mostly cleans up the drop. Bomber snipes the fourth but loses a lot of units.
22:00 Bomber 162 vs Slam 179 Bomber going for the fifth base of Slam. Bomber kills the fifth. +2 flier attack for Slam. Slam has had banelings near Bomber's third base for a while now.
23:00 Bomber 187 vs Slam 177 Slam has not taken his fourth and fifth back yet. Now Slam gets his fourth base again. More swarm hosts on the way. Bomber kills some long distance mining drones.
24:00 Bomber 195 vs Slam 171 Slam chases a side force of bomber with banelings until locusts get there. Bomber going for the natural. Banelings connect with all of the marines. Locusts start cleaning up Bomber's army.
25:00 Bomber 167 vs Slam 155 Those banelings are still there. SCV transfer happens and the banelings kill all of them. One zergling kills 7 SCVs in Bomber's 6th base. Locusts kill more bio. Slam took the gold base.
Bomber spawns in the top right Slam spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Barracks first for Bomber. Slam goes hatchery first followed by a spawning pool.
3:00 Bomber is scouting! CC for Bomber. Slam gets an extractor.
4:00 Two refineries for Bomber. Bomber moving out with two marines. Overlord is going towards the side of the map and Bomber doesn't see it. Bomber getting a bunker next to his ramp. Factory for Bomber. Bomber getting a reactor.
5:00 Third CC for Bomber. Slam scouts with a zergling, which dies to the bunker. Starport for Bomber. Slam getting a third base.
6:00 Speed is half done for Slam. Two evolution chambers and a baneling nest for Slam. Cloaked banshee for Bomber. Bomber going up to 6 hellions. +1 melee attacks for Slam.
7:00 Bomber 57 vs Slam 71 Spore crawlers on the way for Slam. Two engineering bays for Bomber. Bomber getting two refineries in his natural. Stim for Bomber. Lair for Slam.
8:00 Bomber 65 vs Slam 80 +1/1 attack for Bomber. Banshee going for Slam's base. Slam leads 60-44 in workers.
9:00 Bomber 73 vs Slam 96 Bomber not getting a lot done with hellions despite only 17 zerglings being out for Slam. Spire and overlord speed for Slam Bomber getting two more barracks and an armory.
10:00 Bomber 92 vs Slam 101 +1/2 for Slam. Bomber finishing +1/1 and is getting combat shields. Factory for Bomber. Baneling speed for Slam. Fourth base and macro hatchery for slam.
11:00 Bomber 119 vs Slam 120 Slam engages in the center with only zerglings and gets a hellion before backing off. 11 mutalisks on the way. Combat shields finishing. A few banelings being morphed. Bomber has secured his third base. Bomber adding another barracks. Bomber getting 3 widow mines.
12:00 Bomber 151 vs Slam 153 Slam doesn't have a particularly large army. Bomber moving towards the fourth of Slam. Mutalisks kill a medivac and marine not with the rest of the army. Bomber backing off. Slam getting more drones.
13:00 Bomber 184 vs Slam 182 Slam getting 22 banelings. Widow mine kills a mutalisk. Fourth CC for Bomber is landing. +3/3 starts for Bomber.
14:00 Bomber 198vs Slam 200 Bomber engages in the lower gold. Slam loses a lot of mutalisks but manages to kill the army of Bomber.
15:00 Bomber 153 vs Slam 146 Enduring locusts and +1 missile attacks for Slam. PiG? Swarm host on the way. Thor for Bomber.
16:00 Bomber 188 vs Slam 175 Slam nearly loses a lot to a widow mine but it doesn't go off. More swarm hosts on the way. Bomber going towards the fifth base, canceling it.
17:00 Bomber 192 vs Slam 200 Hive for Slam. 3/3 finishing for Bomber. +1 missile attacks finishing for Slam. Slam is up to 7 swarm hosts.
18:00 Bomber 200 vs Slam 197 Two more CCs for Bomber. The locusts are revealed. Widow mine kills a lot of banelings. Banelings blow up on a lot of the marines though.
19:00 Bomber 197 vs Slam 187 Slam morphing in more banelings at his fourth. Bomber goes towards the fourth base. Slam finishes the banelings and chases the marines.
20:00 Bomber 168 vs Slam 184 Slam has a lot of banelings near the third of Bomber. Bomber moves into a bunch of banelings. Bomber has the gold but Slam sees it. PF at Bomber's gold.
21:00 Bomber 184 vs Slam 191 Slam taking a fifth base. +3/3 for Slam. Bomber going for a doom drop. Lots of the medivacs are low on health. Slam mostly cleans up the drop. Bomber snipes the fourth but loses a lot of units.
22:00 Bomber 162 vs Slam 179 Bomber going for the fifth base of Slam. Bomber kills the fifth. +2 flier attack for Slam. Slam has had banelings near Bomber's third base for a while now.
23:00 Bomber 187 vs Slam 177 Slam has not taken his fourth and fifth back yet. Now Slam gets his fourth base again. More swarm hosts on the way. Bomber kills some long distance mining drones.
24:00 Bomber 195 vs Slam 171 Slam chases a side force of bomber with banelings until locusts get there. Bomber going for the natural. Banelings connect with all of the marines. Locusts start cleaning up Bomber's army.
25:00 Bomber 167 vs Slam 155 Those banelings are still there. SCV transfer happens and the banelings kill all of them. One zergling kills 7 SCVs in Bomber's 6th base. Locusts kill more bio. Slam took the gold base.
26:00 Bomber 191 vs Slam 163 Bomber attacking the gold. Mutalisks are being killed. Bomber has 70 marines.
27:00 Bomber 198 vs Slam 148 Slam loses a ton of mutalisks and backs off. Slam trying to kill Bomber's army near the gold and loses more mutalisks. Slam GG's! Bomber takes a 1-0 lead!
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Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs Slam Game 1?
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So, if they were gonna make a "big announcement" for the Newegg sponsorship at the end of the broadcast, sticking their logo in the background right by the iBuyPower logo kinda spoils the surprise.
On August 14 2014 07:39 GumBa wrote: Templar is gonna leave sc2 and get a gf and become a kewm college party kid mark my words. Probaly join a frat too
On August 14 2014 07:39 GumBa wrote: Templar is gonna leave sc2 and get a gf and become a kewm college party kid mark my words. Probaly join a frat too
That's a 0% score Gumba, disappointed
You watch. Gonna become a chick terminator mark my words
On August 14 2014 07:39 GumBa wrote: Templar is gonna leave sc2 and get a gf and become a kewm college party kid mark my words. Probaly join a frat too
Bomber spawns in the top left Slam spawns in the bottom
2:00 Barracks and refinery for Bomber. Hatchery first, followed by a spawning pool for Slam.
3:00 Reaper for Bomber. Bomber scouts the wrong way with his SCV. No gas for Slam. Bomber expands.
4:00 Second reaper for Bomber. Bomber getting a factory and reactor. Bomber isn't actually scouting the main base.
5:00 Slam building drones. Bomber never scouted the main with his reaper. Hellions for Bomber.
6:00 Banshee for Bomber. Slam getting a roach warren and lair. Bomber getting more hellions.
7:00 Bomber 47 vs Slam 54 Two evolution chambers for Slam, walling off. Bomber scouts no third. Slam gets two spore crawlers. Bomber runs into the natural and sees everything but doesn't get past the wall. Marauder and viking on the way. Third CC for Bomber.
8:00 Bomber 57 vs Slam 68 Bomber sees the first few roaches moving out. +1/1 missile for Slam. Slam getting roach speed. Slam getting a third base. Stim is half done for Bomber. More roaches for Slam. Bomber getting an engineering bay.
9:00 Bomber 68 vs Slam 95 Banshee killed nothing in the main base for Slam and returns home. Tank for Bomber. Bomber killing an overlord with a viking but the overlord is transfused and queens attack the viking. Combat shields for Slam.
10:00 Bomber 84 vs Slam 110 Bomber getting more tanks. Slam attacking but is getting drones. +2/2 for Slam. Slam adding hydralisk range. Bomber moving his CC out but an overlord spread creep there.
On August 14 2014 07:39 GumBa wrote: Templar is gonna leave sc2 and get a gf and become a kewm college party kid mark my words. Probaly join a frat too
He must join a frat with Kappa then.
Sadly, I think Kappa Kappa Kappa is a sorority. Even more sadly, considering how close the Greek letter Kappa is to the English letter K, it looks really bad when they spell the name out on signs and whatnot.
On August 14 2014 07:28 Darkhorse wrote: [quote] I've just been busy these last few months TT. I would've been like second to Lorning back in the Spring
Lorning has phenomenal stats
Nowadays Templar is probably well ahead of me as well
I agree!
I am contemplating splitting the pr into ye olde times with Optown MrCon seeker etc and a current pr. Would be less messy I think
Yeah. For example, how do you compare old opterown to new Lorning?
Thats a tough on tbh, thats why I will most likely split it xD
Lorning, lichter 2 and 3
Opterown the goat
joke rank
True imo. I don't think I should be in the top 3
I disagree you've run more OP's than anyone over the past 10 months and you are now making the premade threads.
On August 14 2014 07:28 Darkhorse wrote: [quote] I've just been busy these last few months TT. I would've been like second to Lorning back in the Spring
Lorning has phenomenal stats
Nowadays Templar is probably well ahead of me as well
I agree!
I am contemplating splitting the pr into ye olde times with Optown MrCon seeker etc and a current pr. Would be less messy I think
Yeah. For example, how do you compare old opterown to new Lorning?
Thats a tough on tbh, thats why I will most likely split it xD
Lorning, lichter 2 and 3
Opterown the goat
joke rank
Shellbot you have great stats as well. Also you are making a comeback. Goddamn this pr is gonna be hard
On August 14 2014 07:28 Darkhorse wrote: [quote] I've just been busy these last few months TT. I would've been like second to Lorning back in the Spring
Lorning has phenomenal stats
Nowadays Templar is probably well ahead of me as well
I agree!
I am contemplating splitting the pr into ye olde times with Optown MrCon seeker etc and a current pr. Would be less messy I think
Yeah. For example, how do you compare old opterown to new Lorning?
Thats a tough on tbh, thats why I will most likely split it xD
Lorning, lichter 2 and 3
Opterown the goat
joke rank
Shellbot you have great stats as well. Also you are making a comeback. Goddamn this pr is gonna be hard
Mostly because if I'm not top 10 I'm going to find you and break your own PC on your head. No pressure
Bomber spawns in the top left Slam spawns in the bottom
2:00 Barracks and refinery for Bomber. Hatchery first, followed by a spawning pool for Slam.
3:00 Reaper for Bomber. Bomber scouts the wrong way with his SCV. No gas for Slam. Bomber expands.
4:00 Second reaper for Bomber. Bomber getting a factory and reactor. Bomber isn't actually scouting the main base.
5:00 Slam building drones. Bomber never scouted the main with his reaper. Hellions for Bomber.
6:00 Banshee for Bomber. Slam getting a roach warren and lair. Bomber getting more hellions.
7:00 Bomber 47 vs Slam 54 Two evolution chambers for Slam, walling off. Bomber scouts no third. Slam gets two spore crawlers. Bomber runs into the natural and sees everything but doesn't get past the wall. Marauder and viking on the way. Third CC for Bomber.
8:00 Bomber 57 vs Slam 68 Bomber sees the first few roaches moving out. +1/1 missile for Slam. Slam getting roach speed. Slam getting a third base. Stim is half done for Bomber. More roaches for Slam. Bomber getting an engineering bay.
9:00 Bomber 68 vs Slam 95 Banshee killed nothing in the main base for Slam and returns home. Tank for Bomber. Bomber killing an overlord with a viking but the overlord is transfused and queens attack the viking. Combat shields for Slam.
10:00 Bomber 84 vs Slam 110 Bomber getting more tanks. Slam attacking but is getting drones. +2/2 for Slam. Slam adding hydralisk range. Bomber moving his CC out but an overlord spread creep there.
11:00 Bomber 107 vs Slam 130 Infestation pit? for Slam. Slam getting hydralisks. Slam is leading 67-55 in workers. Bomber lands his third base.
12:00 Bomber 118 vs Slam 151 Slam attacking the third CC. Tanks from bomber are in the main and out of range for the most part. Slam focuses the third and kills the CC. Hive for Slam. Hydralisk speed for Slam.
13:00 Bomber 129 vs Slam 173 Bomber rebuilding his third CC. +2/2 for Bomber. +1 vehicle weapons for Bomber. Slam threatening an attack on the natural but tanks are now in position. Tanks go to Bomber's third. Slam taking a fourth.
14:00 Bomber 199 vs Slam 141 Slam going for an attack next to all of the tanks. Slam gets a really good concave on the bio and manages to pick all of it off. Slam kills all of the low-ground tanks. Bomber GG's! Slam ties the series up at 1-1!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
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★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
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★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
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7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs Slam Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 14 2014 07:28 Darkhorse wrote: [quote] I've just been busy these last few months TT. I would've been like second to Lorning back in the Spring
Lorning has phenomenal stats
Nowadays Templar is probably well ahead of me as well
I agree!
Your summertime passion is good but when you're back in high school I shall strike
I'm going into college this year though.
uni first week = amazing.
Then it becomes a sad life of all-nighters, many Red Bulls and liters of coffee, cramming to study and living in the library.
I've been to the library less than 10 times in 2 years at uni.
Library is overrated. Why go somewhere when you can lock yourself in your room?
because streams exist and you never get time to read.
On August 14 2014 07:28 Darkhorse wrote: [quote] I've just been busy these last few months TT. I would've been like second to Lorning back in the Spring
Lorning has phenomenal stats
Nowadays Templar is probably well ahead of me as well
I agree!
Your summertime passion is good but when you're back in high school I shall strike
I'm going into college this year though.
uni first week = amazing.
Then it becomes a sad life of all-nighters, many Red Bulls and liters of coffee, cramming to study and living in the library.
I've been to the library less than 10 times in 2 years at uni.
Library is overrated. Why go somewhere when you can lock yourself in your room?
Exactly. It works so much better. You can find all the info on the internet anyway.
On August 14 2014 07:27 GumBa wrote: [quote] From my notes your not doing to bad. But you have tough competition
I've just been busy these last few months TT. I would've been like second to Lorning back in the Spring
Lorning has phenomenal stats
Nowadays Templar is probably well ahead of me as well
I agree!
Your summertime passion is good but when you're back in high school I shall strike
I'm going into college this year though.
uni first week = amazing.
Then it becomes a sad life of all-nighters, many Red Bulls and liters of coffee, cramming to study and living in the library.
oh well. the girls in my class are hot so it's ok. "tutor me, senpai"
This is the part before you get to know a small group of girls who are all especially attractive and then discover every single one of them is in a committed relationship.
On August 14 2014 07:28 Darkhorse wrote: [quote] I've just been busy these last few months TT. I would've been like second to Lorning back in the Spring
Lorning has phenomenal stats
Nowadays Templar is probably well ahead of me as well
I agree!
Your summertime passion is good but when you're back in high school I shall strike
I'm going into college this year though.
uni first week = amazing.
Then it becomes a sad life of all-nighters, many Red Bulls and liters of coffee, cramming to study and living in the library.
oh well. the girls in my class are hot so it's ok. "tutor me, senpai"
This is the part before you get to know a small group of girls who are all especially attractive and then discover every single one of them is in a committed relationship.
They're all single get rekt #420yoloswagslaypoon5win
On August 14 2014 07:28 Darkhorse wrote: [quote] I've just been busy these last few months TT. I would've been like second to Lorning back in the Spring
Lorning has phenomenal stats
Nowadays Templar is probably well ahead of me as well
I agree!
Your summertime passion is good but when you're back in high school I shall strike
I'm going into college this year though.
uni first week = amazing.
Then it becomes a sad life of all-nighters, many Red Bulls and liters of coffee, cramming to study and living in the library.
oh well. the girls in my class are hot so it's ok. "tutor me, senpai"
This is the part before you get to know a small group of girls who are all especially attractive and then discover every single one of them is in a committed relationship.
If you were Welsh you'd have the "just because there's a goalie doesn't mean you can't score" attitude
On August 14 2014 07:28 Darkhorse wrote: [quote] I've just been busy these last few months TT. I would've been like second to Lorning back in the Spring
Lorning has phenomenal stats
Nowadays Templar is probably well ahead of me as well
I agree!
Your summertime passion is good but when you're back in high school I shall strike
I'm going into college this year though.
uni first week = amazing.
Then it becomes a sad life of all-nighters, many Red Bulls and liters of coffee, cramming to study and living in the library.
oh well. the girls in my class are hot so it's ok. "tutor me, senpai"
This is the part before you get to know a small group of girls who are all especially attractive and then discover every single one of them is in a committed relationship.
Truth. Although, we had the plus of being a fine arts faculty which was notoriously open to open relationships and many other shenanigans.
On August 14 2014 07:30 GumBa wrote: [quote] Lorning has phenomenal stats
Nowadays Templar is probably well ahead of me as well
I agree!
Your summertime passion is good but when you're back in high school I shall strike
I'm going into college this year though.
uni first week = amazing.
Then it becomes a sad life of all-nighters, many Red Bulls and liters of coffee, cramming to study and living in the library.
oh well. the girls in my class are hot so it's ok. "tutor me, senpai"
This is the part before you get to know a small group of girls who are all especially attractive and then discover every single one of them is in a committed relationship.
They're all single get rekt #420yoloswagslaypoon5win
On August 14 2014 07:30 GumBa wrote: [quote] Lorning has phenomenal stats
Nowadays Templar is probably well ahead of me as well
I agree!
Your summertime passion is good but when you're back in high school I shall strike
I'm going into college this year though.
uni first week = amazing.
Then it becomes a sad life of all-nighters, many Red Bulls and liters of coffee, cramming to study and living in the library.
oh well. the girls in my class are hot so it's ok. "tutor me, senpai"
This is the part before you get to know a small group of girls who are all especially attractive and then discover every single one of them is in a committed relationship.
They're all single get rekt #420yoloswagslaypoon5win
I bet you're not at uni at all and are in fact just a professional poon slayer.
On August 14 2014 07:50 Paljas wrote: I am studying stacraft at university. my master theises is about the economy of zerg rush
"After the Great Mineral Price Shock of 10 minutes fomented by the arrival of the Hellbats Drones found themselves in a state of mass unemployment which inevitably led to the War of Fifteen Minutes commanded by the new working class of Roaches.
On August 14 2014 07:30 GumBa wrote: [quote] Lorning has phenomenal stats
Nowadays Templar is probably well ahead of me as well
I agree!
Your summertime passion is good but when you're back in high school I shall strike
I'm going into college this year though.
uni first week = amazing.
Then it becomes a sad life of all-nighters, many Red Bulls and liters of coffee, cramming to study and living in the library.
oh well. the girls in my class are hot so it's ok. "tutor me, senpai"
This is the part before you get to know a small group of girls who are all especially attractive and then discover every single one of them is in a committed relationship.
They're all single get rekt #420yoloswagslaypoon5win
On August 14 2014 07:30 Darkhorse wrote: [quote] Nowadays Templar is probably well ahead of me as well
I agree!
Your summertime passion is good but when you're back in high school I shall strike
I'm going into college this year though.
uni first week = amazing.
Then it becomes a sad life of all-nighters, many Red Bulls and liters of coffee, cramming to study and living in the library.
oh well. the girls in my class are hot so it's ok. "tutor me, senpai"
This is the part before you get to know a small group of girls who are all especially attractive and then discover every single one of them is in a committed relationship.
They're all single get rekt #420yoloswagslaypoon5win
I bet you're not at uni at all and are in fact just a professional poon slayer.
damn it. my plans of faking a psychology major to slay em all is revealed
On August 14 2014 07:32 The_Templar wrote: [quote] I agree!
Your summertime passion is good but when you're back in high school I shall strike
I'm going into college this year though.
uni first week = amazing.
Then it becomes a sad life of all-nighters, many Red Bulls and liters of coffee, cramming to study and living in the library.
oh well. the girls in my class are hot so it's ok. "tutor me, senpai"
This is the part before you get to know a small group of girls who are all especially attractive and then discover every single one of them is in a committed relationship.
They're all single get rekt #420yoloswagslaypoon5win
I bet you're not at uni at all and are in fact just a professional poon slayer.
damn it. my plans of faking a psychology major to slay em all is revealed
back to the drawing deskerino
"At least 150 or more to see to be a poon slaying master is my destiny"
Bomber spawns in the top left Slam spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Slam goes hatchery first. Bomber goes CC first on the high ground and follows up with a barracks. Refinery for Bomber. Spawning pool for Slam.
3:00 Two queens for Slam. Slam moving across the map with zerglings. Third CC for Bomber.
4:00 Bomber getting a factory. SCV is saved by marines and more SCVs. Slam attacks with 6 zerglings and kills 2 workers.
5:00 Two hellions on the way. Third for slam. Roach warren for Slam.
6:00 Slam getting a second gas. Second barracks for Bomber. Lair for Slam. Two evolution chambers for Slam.
7:00 Bomber 44 vs Slam 50 Hellion being sacrificed to scout the roach build. +1/1 for Slam's roaches. +1 attack and a second engineering bay for Bomber. Bomber getting 2 more barracks and a starport. Roach speed for Slam.
8:00 Bomber 59 vs Slam 69 Bomber moving out with his third CC. Stim finishing for Bomber. +1 armor for Bomber. Armory for Bomber.
9:00 Bomber 67 vs Slam 87 Bomber has also scouted the third base. A hellion is keeping tabs on whether roaches are coming.
10:00 Bomber 96 vs Slam 101 Slam getting burrow. More roaches on the way. Slam getting more and more roaches.
Bomber spawns in the top left Slam spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Slam goes hatchery first. Bomber goes CC first on the high ground and follows up with a barracks. Refinery for Bomber. Spawning pool for Slam.
3:00 Two queens for Slam. Slam moving across the map with zerglings. Third CC for Bomber.
4:00 Bomber getting a factory. SCV is saved by marines and more SCVs. Slam attacks with 6 zerglings and kills 2 workers.
5:00 Two hellions on the way. Third for slam. Roach warren for Slam.
6:00 Slam getting a second gas. Second barracks for Bomber. Lair for Slam. Two evolution chambers for Slam.
7:00 Bomber 44 vs Slam 50 Hellion being sacrificed to scout the roach build. +1/1 for Slam's roaches. +1 attack and a second engineering bay for Bomber. Bomber getting 2 more barracks and a starport. Roach speed for Slam.
8:00 Bomber 59 vs Slam 69 Bomber moving out with his third CC. Stim finishing for Bomber. +1 armor for Bomber. Armory for Bomber.
9:00 Bomber 67 vs Slam 87 Bomber has also scouted the third base. A hellion is keeping tabs on whether roaches are coming.
10:00 Bomber 96 vs Slam 101 Slam getting burrow. More roaches on the way. Slam getting more and more roaches.
11:00 Bomber 118 vs Slam 151 Slam going for the natural. Bomber stims his army and goes after the roaches. More roaches for Slam.
12:00 Bomber 127 vs Slam 167 Slam just attacks the bio of Bomber and loses a lot. Baneling nest for Slam. Slam retreats. Bomber picks up his entire army and goes for the bases of Slam. Slam goes to attack the third base. Bomber unloads in the third base of Slam.
13:00 Bomber 157 vs Slam 177 Slam loses his queens but kills about half the bio. 29 banelings! and baneling speed for Slam.
14:00 Bomber 167 vs Slam 166 Slow baneling train moving out towards Bomber's third. Slam tries a fourth but it's killed. Slam goes for the base of Bomber.
15:00 Bomber 179 vs Slam 185 Bomber loses a ton of workers and marines in his main to banelings. Bomber attacking the third and killing it.
Bomber spawns in the top left Slam spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Slam goes hatchery first. Bomber goes CC first on the high ground and follows up with a barracks. Refinery for Bomber. Spawning pool for Slam.
3:00 Two queens for Slam. Slam moving across the map with zerglings. Third CC for Bomber.
4:00 Bomber getting a factory. SCV is saved by marines and more SCVs. Slam attacks with 6 zerglings and kills 2 workers.
5:00 Two hellions on the way. Third for slam. Roach warren for Slam.
6:00 Slam getting a second gas. Second barracks for Bomber. Lair for Slam. Two evolution chambers for Slam.
7:00 Bomber 44 vs Slam 50 Hellion being sacrificed to scout the roach build. +1/1 for Slam's roaches. +1 attack and a second engineering bay for Bomber. Bomber getting 2 more barracks and a starport. Roach speed for Slam.
8:00 Bomber 59 vs Slam 69 Bomber moving out with his third CC. Stim finishing for Bomber. +1 armor for Bomber. Armory for Bomber.
9:00 Bomber 67 vs Slam 87 Bomber has also scouted the third base. A hellion is keeping tabs on whether roaches are coming.
10:00 Bomber 96 vs Slam 101 Slam getting burrow. More roaches on the way. Slam getting more and more roaches.
11:00 Bomber 118 vs Slam 151 Slam going for the natural. Bomber stims his army and goes after the roaches. More roaches for Slam.
12:00 Bomber 127 vs Slam 167 Slam just attacks the bio of Bomber and loses a lot. Baneling nest for Slam. Slam retreats. Bomber picks up his entire army and goes for the bases of Slam. Slam goes to attack the third base. Bomber unloads in the third base of Slam.
13:00 Bomber 157 vs Slam 177 Slam loses his queens but kills about half the bio. 29 banelings! and baneling speed for Slam.
14:00 Bomber 167 vs Slam 166 Slow baneling train moving out towards Bomber's third. Slam tries a fourth but it's killed. Slam goes for the base of Bomber.
15:00 Bomber 179 vs Slam 185 Bomber loses a ton of workers and marines in his main to banelings. Bomber attacking the third and killing it.
16:00 Bomber 129 vs Slam 79 Bomber moves into the natural. Bomber defending his main. Slam loses his natural. Slam GG's! Bomber wins 2-1!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs Slam Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
HE'S DOING IT. LEFT RIGHT AND CENTER. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! MARINES ALL OVER THE PLACE AND GG. REDBULL TAKES HOME THE THIRD GAME AND THE BOSS IS IN THE WINNER'S MATCH, WHICH HE BELONGS IN.
On August 14 2014 08:02 Wintex wrote: HE'S DOING IT. LEFT RIGHT AND CENTER. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! MARINES ALL OVER THE PLACE AND GG. REDBULL TAKES HOME THE THIRD GAME AND THE BOSS IS IN THE WINNER'S MATCH, WHICH HE BELONGS IN.
On August 14 2014 08:02 Wintex wrote: HE'S DOING IT. LEFT RIGHT AND CENTER. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! MARINES ALL OVER THE PLACE AND GG. REDBULL TAKES HOME THE THIRD GAME AND THE BOSS IS IN THE WINNER'S MATCH, WHICH HE BELONGS IN.
On August 14 2014 08:04 brickrd wrote: i dont get what makes bomber interesting id rather have seen a foreign zerg win
ok, so if you don't like stunning macro, english interviews, swagger, bmness and the humbleness of a korean mixed into a beauty few manage to obtain, or his exquisite builds.... i don't know man.
On August 14 2014 08:04 brickrd wrote: i dont get what makes bomber interesting id rather have seen a foreign zerg win
ok, so if you don't like stunning macro, english interviews, swagger, bmness and the humbleness of a korean mixed into a beauty few manage to obtain, or his exquisite builds.... i don't know man.
On August 14 2014 08:04 brickrd wrote: i dont get what makes bomber interesting id rather have seen a foreign zerg win
ok, so if you don't like stunning macro, english interviews, swagger, bmness and the humbleness of a korean mixed into a beauty few manage to obtain, or his exquisite builds.... i don't know man.
i think you should check out WCS KR.
You make him sound like a weaker version of MVP_Swagger.
On August 14 2014 08:04 brickrd wrote: i dont get what makes bomber interesting id rather have seen a foreign zerg win
ok, so if you don't like stunning macro, english interviews, swagger, bmness and the humbleness of a korean mixed into a beauty few manage to obtain, or his exquisite builds.... i don't know man.
i think you should check out WCS KR.
You make him sound like a weaker version of MVP_Swagger.
On August 14 2014 08:04 brickrd wrote: i dont get what makes bomber interesting id rather have seen a foreign zerg win
ok, so if you don't like stunning macro, english interviews, swagger, bmness and the humbleness of a korean mixed into a beauty few manage to obtain, or his exquisite builds.... i don't know man.
i think you should check out WCS KR.
You make him sound like a weaker version of MVP_Swagger.
On August 14 2014 08:04 brickrd wrote: i dont get what makes bomber interesting id rather have seen a foreign zerg win
ok, so if you don't like stunning macro, english interviews, swagger, bmness and the humbleness of a korean mixed into a beauty few manage to obtain, or his exquisite builds.... i don't know man.
i think you should check out WCS KR.
You make him sound like a weaker version of MVP_Swagger.
swagger is gone forever
did I miss something when I was chasing down Byun in China?
On August 14 2014 08:04 brickrd wrote: i dont get what makes bomber interesting id rather have seen a foreign zerg win
ok, so if you don't like stunning macro, english interviews, swagger, bmness and the humbleness of a korean mixed into a beauty few manage to obtain, or his exquisite builds.... i don't know man.
i think you should check out WCS KR.
You make him sound like a weaker version of MVP_Swagger.
On August 14 2014 08:04 brickrd wrote: i dont get what makes bomber interesting id rather have seen a foreign zerg win
ok, so if you don't like stunning macro, english interviews, swagger, bmness and the humbleness of a korean mixed into a beauty few manage to obtain, or his exquisite builds.... i don't know man.
i think you should check out WCS KR.
You make him sound like a weaker version of MVP_Swagger.
swagger is gone forever
did I miss something when I was chasing down Byun in China?
On August 14 2014 08:04 brickrd wrote: i dont get what makes bomber interesting id rather have seen a foreign zerg win
ok, so if you don't like stunning macro, english interviews, swagger, bmness and the humbleness of a korean mixed into a beauty few manage to obtain, or his exquisite builds.... i don't know man.
On August 14 2014 08:04 brickrd wrote: i dont get what makes bomber interesting id rather have seen a foreign zerg win
ok, so if you don't like stunning macro, english interviews, swagger, bmness and the humbleness of a korean mixed into a beauty few manage to obtain, or his exquisite builds.... i don't know man.
On August 14 2014 08:04 brickrd wrote: i dont get what makes bomber interesting id rather have seen a foreign zerg win
ok, so if you don't like stunning macro, english interviews, swagger, bmness and the humbleness of a korean mixed into a beauty few manage to obtain, or his exquisite builds.... i don't know man.
are players allowed to talk to each other during wcs am games because i think puck and major bming each other in the middle of this series would be pretty great
On August 14 2014 08:04 brickrd wrote: i dont get what makes bomber interesting id rather have seen a foreign zerg win
ok, so if you don't like stunning macro, english interviews, swagger, bmness and the humbleness of a korean mixed into a beauty few manage to obtain, or his exquisite builds.... i don't know man.
On August 14 2014 08:14 brickrd wrote: are players allowed to talk to each other during wcs am games because i think puck and major bming each other in the middle of this series would be pretty great
I believe we found in the rules when Stephano chatted that you werent supposed to chat but no one cares. I assume they would step in for BM with fines like they said they would. the rest of the chat has just kind of been silly stuff like scarlett begging for mercy for her overlord
On August 14 2014 08:14 brickrd wrote: are players allowed to talk to each other during wcs am games because i think puck and major bming each other in the middle of this series would be pretty great
Pretty sure they aren't allowed, but I would like Major to do it anyway and get DQd
MajOr spawns in the bottom left puCK spawns in the top right
2:00 Barracks and refinery for MajOr. puCK opening with a gateway and an assimilator. Reaper for MajOr.
3:00 CC for MajOr. MajOr blocks an expansion from puCK until the MSC arrives. Factory for MajOr. MajOr getting a bunker.
4:00 Nothing happening.
5:00 Two marines for MajOr. Stalker for puCK. puCK getting a robotics facility. MajOr getting a starport.
6:00 Two gateways for puCK. MajOr getting a widow mine and a medivac. Stalker is chased away by marines.
7:00 MajOr 50 vs puCK 51 puCK is getting a second observer and robotics bay. Immortal for puCK. Two barracks for MajOr. Two gateways finish for MajOr.
8:00 MajOr 60 vs puCK 65 MajOr drops two widow mines in the main but doesn't kill much. Forge and twilight council for puCK. puCK getting a colossus. Stim and +1 for MajOr. MajOr getting two more barracks.
9:00 MajOr 76 vs puCK 81 Blink for puCK. MajOr tries another drop but it's deflected. +1 armor for puCK. puCK getting 2 more gateways. MajOr has a raven and is moving out. MajOr taking a third base.
10:00 MajOr 101 vs puCK 100 Bomber kills an observer in the right hand side of the map. Probe is picked off in the far left. puCK is on 56 probes and 2 bases.
On August 14 2014 08:14 brickrd wrote: are players allowed to talk to each other during wcs am games because i think puck and major bming each other in the middle of this series would be pretty great
I believe we found in the rules when Stephano chatted that you werent supposed to chat but no one cares. I assume they would step in for BM with fines like they said they would. the rest of the chat has just kind of been silly stuff like scarlett begging for mercy for her overlord
On August 14 2014 08:14 brickrd wrote: are players allowed to talk to each other during wcs am games because i think puck and major bming each other in the middle of this series would be pretty great
I believe we found in the rules when Stephano chatted that you werent supposed to chat but no one cares. I assume they would step in for BM with fines like they said they would. the rest of the chat has just kind of been silly stuff like scarlett begging for mercy for her overlord
MajOr spawns in the bottom left puCK spawns in the top right
2:00 Barracks and refinery for MajOr. puCK opening with a gateway and an assimilator. Reaper for MajOr.
3:00 CC for MajOr. MajOr blocks an expansion from puCK until the MSC arrives. Factory for MajOr. MajOr getting a bunker.
4:00 Nothing happening.
5:00 Two marines for MajOr. Stalker for puCK. puCK getting a robotics facility. MajOr getting a starport.
6:00 Two gateways for puCK. MajOr getting a widow mine and a medivac. Stalker is chased away by marines.
7:00 MajOr 50 vs puCK 51 puCK is getting a second observer and robotics bay. Immortal for puCK. Two barracks for MajOr. Two gateways finish for MajOr.
8:00 MajOr 60 vs puCK 65 MajOr drops two widow mines in the main but doesn't kill much. Forge and twilight council for puCK. puCK getting a colossus. Stim and +1 for MajOr. MajOr getting two more barracks.
9:00 MajOr 76 vs puCK 81 Blink for puCK. MajOr tries another drop but it's deflected. +1 armor for puCK. puCK getting 2 more gateways. MajOr has a raven and is moving out. MajOr taking a third base.
10:00 MajOr 101 vs puCK 100 Bomber kills an observer in the right hand side of the map. Probe is picked off in the far left. puCK is on 56 probes and 2 bases.
12:00 MajOr 137 vs puCK 116 puCK moves out with a 3-colossus army and has to force field due to MajOr's army being there. puCK still hasn't taken his third. +1 attack and charge for puCK.
13:00 MajOr 163 vs puCK 133 puCK finally taking his third base. MajOr is mining off his third base for quite a while. Ghosts for MaJor.
14:00 MajOr 177 vs puCK 147 MajOr has a lot of vikings and is moving towards puCK's natural. MajOr is pulling SCVS.
15:00 MajOr 196 vs puCK 170 MajOr moving into the natural/third area and gets colossi for free. EMPs on all of the stalkers. puCK GG's! MajOr takes a 1-0 lead!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
25%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MajOr vs puCK Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 14 2014 08:19 vult wrote: How was Bomber v Slam games 2/3? Had to eat dinner with my family as I am visiting them right now
Slam denied Bomber's third with a lot of Roaches so he got it late. Slam gets 2/2 and adds Hydras and destroys the 3rd OC and pushes to gg. Slam goes heavy on Roaches but doesn't do as much to Bomber's third this time. Bomber defends and loads a lot of Medivacs filled with Bio to Slam's main and does some decent harassment while he builds an army. Bomber's army is too much for Slam and it's a win for him.
On August 14 2014 08:20 RHoudini wrote: Too ez. 1-0.
Too facepalm, you mean. No double Forge, 14:00 third base, and absolutely zero early pressure applied to the Terran? That's a Protoss ASKING to get rolled by the boiz.
On August 14 2014 08:14 brickrd wrote: are players allowed to talk to each other during wcs am games because i think puck and major bming each other in the middle of this series would be pretty great
I believe we found in the rules when Stephano chatted that you werent supposed to chat but no one cares. I assume they would step in for BM with fines like they said they would. the rest of the chat has just kind of been silly stuff like scarlett begging for mercy for her overlord
i didnt mean actual bm i meant like suppy style NA player bm
idk do puck and major really not like each other? with major i guess thats possible
MajOr spawns in the bottom right puCK spawns in the top left
2:00 Gateway and assimilator for puCK. MajOr going CC first.
3:00 Two barracks for MajOr. Cybernetics core for puCK. puCK getting a mothership core and expands. Stalker for puCK.
4:00 Two marines for MajOr. Two refineries for MajOr. A marine is moving out and checking for proxies.
5:00 Robotics facility for puCK. puCK moves in with a stalker and picks off an SCV. puCK adds a gateway.
6:00 Factory for MajOr. puCK getting two more assimilators. Observer for puCK. puCK ahead 38-32 in workers. Factory for MajOr.
7:00 MajOr 56 vs puCK 58 puCK loses a stalker to MajOr's bio force. MajOr moves out. Double forge for puCK. puCK getting an immortal.
8:00 MajOr 72 vs puCK 69 +1 attack starting, stim finishing for MajOr. +1/1 for puCK.
9:00 MajOr 77 vs puCK 78 Combat shields for MajOr. MajOr adds on two barracks. Two medivacs on the way. puCK getting 3 more gateways and a twilight council. puCK is still building probes. Concussive shells on the way. Widow mine drop is deflected by cannons.
10:00 MajOr 98 vs puCK 89 Widow mine gets into the main and nearly kills the mothership core. MajOr pokes and forces an overcharge. Widow mine is killed in puCK's main.
MajOr spawns in the bottom right puCK spawns in the top left
2:00 Gateway and assimilator for puCK. MajOr going CC first.
3:00 Two barracks for MajOr. Cybernetics core for puCK. puCK getting a mothership core and expands. Stalker for puCK.
4:00 Two marines for MajOr. Two refineries for MajOr. A marine is moving out and checking for proxies.
5:00 Robotics facility for puCK. puCK moves in with a stalker and picks off an SCV. puCK adds a gateway.
6:00 Factory for MajOr. puCK getting two more assimilators. Observer for puCK. puCK ahead 38-32 in workers. Factory for MajOr.
7:00 MajOr 56 vs puCK 58 puCK loses a stalker to MajOr's bio force. MajOr moves out. Double forge for puCK. puCK getting an immortal.
8:00 MajOr 72 vs puCK 69 +1 attack starting, stim finishing for MajOr. +1/1 for puCK.
9:00 MajOr 77 vs puCK 78 Combat shields for MajOr. MajOr adds on two barracks. Two medivacs on the way. puCK getting 3 more gateways and a twilight council. puCK is still building probes. Concussive shells on the way. Widow mine drop is deflected by cannons.
10:00 MajOr 98 vs puCK 89 Widow mine gets into the main and nearly kills the mothership core. MajOr pokes and forces an overcharge. Widow mine is killed in puCK's main.
11:00 MajOr 118 vs puCK 107 Storm and charge for puCK. puCK getting +2. puCK loses a cybernetics core because of bad positioning.
12:00 MajOr 150 vs puCK 124 MajOr taking his third base. puCK trying to takes his third but a lot of his units are isolated. A HT is picked off. MajOr pressures the front while dropping the main.
14:00 MajOr 154 vs puCK 117 puCK taking his third base. MajOr backing off. MajOr scans and sees puCK's army. MajOr kills the backdoor rocks and stims into the natural with a few units. MajOr goes for the third of puCK. puCK has 5 immortals.
15:00 MajOr 165 vs puCK 116 MajOr drops the main. puCK rebuilding the mothership core. puCK rallying units to his front.
MajOr spawns in the bottom right puCK spawns in the top left
2:00 Gateway and assimilator for puCK. MajOr going CC first.
3:00 Two barracks for MajOr. Cybernetics core for puCK. puCK getting a mothership core and expands. Stalker for puCK.
4:00 Two marines for MajOr. Two refineries for MajOr. A marine is moving out and checking for proxies.
5:00 Robotics facility for puCK. puCK moves in with a stalker and picks off an SCV. puCK adds a gateway.
6:00 Factory for MajOr. puCK getting two more assimilators. Observer for puCK. puCK ahead 38-32 in workers. Factory for MajOr.
7:00 MajOr 56 vs puCK 58 puCK loses a stalker to MajOr's bio force. MajOr moves out. Double forge for puCK. puCK getting an immortal.
8:00 MajOr 72 vs puCK 69 +1 attack starting, stim finishing for MajOr. +1/1 for puCK.
9:00 MajOr 77 vs puCK 78 Combat shields for MajOr. MajOr adds on two barracks. Two medivacs on the way. puCK getting 3 more gateways and a twilight council. puCK is still building probes. Concussive shells on the way. Widow mine drop is deflected by cannons.
10:00 MajOr 98 vs puCK 89 Widow mine gets into the main and nearly kills the mothership core. MajOr pokes and forces an overcharge. Widow mine is killed in puCK's main.
11:00 MajOr 118 vs puCK 107 Storm and charge for puCK. puCK getting +2. puCK loses a cybernetics core because of bad positioning.
12:00 MajOr 150 vs puCK 124 MajOr taking his third base. puCK trying to takes his third but a lot of his units are isolated. A HT is picked off. MajOr pressures the front while dropping the main.
14:00 MajOr 154 vs puCK 117 puCK taking his third base. MajOr backing off. MajOr scans and sees puCK's army. MajOr kills the backdoor rocks and stims into the natural with a few units. MajOr goes for the third of puCK. puCK has 5 immortals.
15:00 MajOr 165 vs puCK 116 MajOr drops the main. puCK rebuilding the mothership core. puCK rallying units to his front.
17:00 MajOr 150 vs puCK 102 puCK manages to hold the attack of MajOr. MajOr has more medivacs than units. +3/3 for puCK is finishing. MajOr moving back into the area outside the natural.
18:00 MajOr 167 vs puCK 119 puCK finishing his third base again and transfers probes. MajOr goes after the third base. A couple of medivacs are dying.
19:00 MajOr 179 vs puCK 123 MajOr is taking a fourth base. An archon is killed. Lots of zealots are falling. puCK pretty much building zealots. MajOr suddenly reinforces with 10 more medivacs and pucK loses his entire army. More zealots and HTs on the way. +3 attack finishing for MajOr.
this is really frustrating to watch lol it looks like one of those ladder games where your opponent lost 20 minutes ago and just wants to kite around to piss you off
MajOr spawns in the bottom right puCK spawns in the top left
2:00 Gateway and assimilator for puCK. MajOr going CC first.
3:00 Two barracks for MajOr. Cybernetics core for puCK. puCK getting a mothership core and expands. Stalker for puCK.
4:00 Two marines for MajOr. Two refineries for MajOr. A marine is moving out and checking for proxies.
5:00 Robotics facility for puCK. puCK moves in with a stalker and picks off an SCV. puCK adds a gateway.
6:00 Factory for MajOr. puCK getting two more assimilators. Observer for puCK. puCK ahead 38-32 in workers. Factory for MajOr.
7:00 MajOr 56 vs puCK 58 puCK loses a stalker to MajOr's bio force. MajOr moves out. Double forge for puCK. puCK getting an immortal.
8:00 MajOr 72 vs puCK 69 +1 attack starting, stim finishing for MajOr. +1/1 for puCK.
9:00 MajOr 77 vs puCK 78 Combat shields for MajOr. MajOr adds on two barracks. Two medivacs on the way. puCK getting 3 more gateways and a twilight council. puCK is still building probes. Concussive shells on the way. Widow mine drop is deflected by cannons.
10:00 MajOr 98 vs puCK 89 Widow mine gets into the main and nearly kills the mothership core. MajOr pokes and forces an overcharge. Widow mine is killed in puCK's main.
11:00 MajOr 118 vs puCK 107 Storm and charge for puCK. puCK getting +2. puCK loses a cybernetics core because of bad positioning.
12:00 MajOr 150 vs puCK 124 MajOr taking his third base. puCK trying to takes his third but a lot of his units are isolated. A HT is picked off. MajOr pressures the front while dropping the main.
14:00 MajOr 154 vs puCK 117 puCK taking his third base. MajOr backing off. MajOr scans and sees puCK's army. MajOr kills the backdoor rocks and stims into the natural with a few units. MajOr goes for the third of puCK. puCK has 5 immortals.
15:00 MajOr 165 vs puCK 116 MajOr drops the main. puCK rebuilding the mothership core. puCK rallying units to his front.
17:00 MajOr 150 vs puCK 102 puCK manages to hold the attack of MajOr. MajOr has more medivacs than units. +3/3 for puCK is finishing. MajOr moving back into the area outside the natural.
18:00 MajOr 167 vs puCK 119 puCK finishing his third base again and transfers probes. MajOr goes after the third base. A couple of medivacs are dying.
19:00 MajOr 179 vs puCK 123 MajOr is taking a fourth base. An archon is killed. Lots of zealots are falling. puCK pretty much building zealots. MajOr suddenly reinforces with 10 more medivacs and pucK loses his entire army. More zealots and HTs on the way. +3 attack finishing for MajOr.
21:00 MajOr 175 vs puCK 102 puCK loses his last archon. MajOr moves into the natural. MajOr loses a bunch of medivacs to widow mines. puCK's third base is mining pretty well. puCK has one immortal and loses his mothership core. A HT gets off a storm but MajOr finally powers through. MajOr wins 2-0!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MajOr vs puCK Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MajOr vs puCK Game 3?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
67%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
33%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MajOr vs puCK Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 14 2014 08:36 stuchiu wrote: I think he wanted to gamble on Major not playing reactive and making WMs?
How is that ever gonna happen. When Major already has the tools, how is he not gonna make do what's right?
I've seen dumber things happen!
in 2014?
A man went expansion-first against Shine with Code S qualification on the line.
Majestic forced a cancel on Bly's proxy hatch in his natural and then let the drone get away and make a proxy hatch in the main and didnt do anything about it and then lost. that was pretty fail
In a single game we saw how fun storm builds are as opposed to colo builds, and how stupid WM are in TvP. I hate Protoss, but they really need to remove the shield damage buff.
On August 14 2014 08:44 Wintex wrote: i hate that loser's comes before winner's
Same here. If we had winner's match now, we would continue the storyline of "who advances first". Then after that one, we could begin the "who gets out in second place" storyline.
Instead now that storyline kinda begins while everyone just wants to watch the winner's match.
On August 14 2014 08:36 stuchiu wrote: I think he wanted to gamble on Major not playing reactive and making WMs?
How is that ever gonna happen. When Major already has the tools, how is he not gonna make do what's right?
I've seen dumber things happen!
in 2014?
A man went expansion-first against Shine with Code S qualification on the line.
Myungsik forced a cancel on TRUE's proxy hatch in his natural and then let the drone get away and make a proxy hatch in the main and didnt do anything about it and then lost. that was pretty fail
On August 14 2014 08:44 Wintex wrote: i hate that loser's comes before winner's
Same here. If we had winner's match now, we would continue the storyline of "who advances first". Then after that one, we could begin the "who gets out in second place" storyline.
Instead now that storyline kinda begins while everyone just wants to watch the winner's match.
I want to see the winner's match before going to bed
On August 14 2014 08:44 Wintex wrote: i hate that loser's comes before winner's
Same here. If we had winner's match now, we would continue the storyline of "who advances first". Then after that one, we could begin the "who gets out in second place" storyline.
Instead now that storyline kinda begins while everyone just wants to watch the winner's match.
I want to see the winner's match before going to bed
:D I'm off to bed now, will watch/fall asleep to the rest on my tablet. Nightnight!
On August 14 2014 08:36 stuchiu wrote: I think he wanted to gamble on Major not playing reactive and making WMs?
How is that ever gonna happen. When Major already has the tools, how is he not gonna make do what's right?
I've seen dumber things happen!
in 2014?
A man went expansion-first against Shine with Code S qualification on the line.
Myungsik forced a cancel on TRUE's proxy hatch in his natural and then let the drone get away and make a proxy hatch in the main and didnt do anything about it and then lost. that was pretty fail
Yeah that was pretty dumb.
i did this on ladder the other night
to a terran
he pulled his whole scv line and then immediately quit when the second hatch finished
Slam spawns in the bottom left puCK spawns in the top right
2:00 Hatchery first for Slam. puCK getting a gateway and assimilator. Spawning pool for Slam. puCK getting a cybernetics core.
3:00 puCK expands. puCK getting a mothership core. Queens for Slam.
4:00 puCK getting a forge. Overlords are scouting everywhere.
5:00 Second assimilator for puCK. Zergling gets into the main of puCK. Slam loses a creep tumor to a stalker. puCK pressuring with stalkers.
6:00 puCK kills an overlord, a queen, and a spine crawler and doesn't lose anything. Slam taking a third. Cannon rush on the third of Slam.
7:00 puCK 52 vs Slam 57 Slam sends zerglings after the cannon, kililng it. Lair and roach warren for Slam. Speed finishes for Slam.
8:00 puCK 55 vs Slam 77 Third base for puCK. +1/1 for puCK. 7 roaches on the way.
9:00 puCK 61 vs Slam 87 Slam pressuring the third. +2 attack for Slam. 11 drones on the way. Slam focus firing the nexus with zerglings but puCK manages to save it. Blink and +2 for puCK. Robotics facility for puCK.
10:00 puCK 85 vs Slam 102 Overlord drop for Slam. Roach speed finishing up. Zerglings pressure the third.
Slam spawns in the bottom left puCK spawns in the top right
2:00 Hatchery first for Slam. puCK getting a gateway and assimilator. Spawning pool for Slam. puCK getting a cybernetics core.
3:00 puCK expands. puCK getting a mothership core. Queens for Slam.
4:00 puCK getting a forge. Overlords are scouting everywhere.
5:00 Second assimilator for puCK. Zergling gets into the main of puCK. Slam loses a creep tumor to a stalker. puCK pressuring with stalkers.
6:00 puCK kills an overlord, a queen, and a spine crawler and doesn't lose anything. Slam taking a third. Cannon rush on the third of Slam.
7:00 puCK 52 vs Slam 57 Slam sends zerglings after the cannon, kililng it. Lair and roach warren for Slam. Speed finishes for Slam.
8:00 puCK 55 vs Slam 77 Third base for puCK. +1/1 for puCK. 7 roaches on the way.
9:00 puCK 61 vs Slam 87 Slam pressuring the third. +2 attack for Slam. 11 drones on the way. Slam focus firing the nexus with zerglings but puCK manages to save it. Blink and +2 for puCK. Robotics facility for puCK.
10:00 puCK 85 vs Slam 102 Overlord drop for Slam. Roach speed finishing up. Zerglings pressure the third.
11:00 puCK 113 vs Slam 143 Slam kills an assimilator in the third base. Dark shrine for puCK. +1 missile attack for Slam.
12:00 puCK 126 vs Slam 146 Warp prism for puCK. puCk moving out. Slam immediately counterattacks but backs off. Mutalisks on the way. Dark shrine finishing.
13:00 puCK 154 vs Slam 174 Slam gets a lot of roaches stuck due to force fields as puCK attacks. puCK takes an army advantage despite being initially surrounded and kills off the third. Slam goes for a counterattack. DTs being warped in defensively.
15:00 puCK 163 vs Slam 114 Cybernetics core is killed. puCK kills all of the drones in the main as well as killing the natural. Slam GG's! puCK takes a 1-0 lead!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
50%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?
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Slam spawns in the top left puCK spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Gateway and one assimilator for puCK. Slam getting a hatchery first and a spawning pool and extractor.
3:00 Extractor is cancelled. puCK expands and gets a mothership core. puCK getting a stalker and second assimilator.
4:00 Two gateways for puCK. Sentry for puCK. Two extractors for Slam.
5:00 Mothership core patrols in the upper area. Zergling speed and two spine crawlers for Slam.
6:00 Evolution chamber for Slam. Stalkers pick off a creep tumor.
7:00 Slam 60 vs puCK 62 Slam building a lot of zerglings. puCK kills a bunch of zerglings moving out and backs up. Slam taking a third base and moving out with queens and zerglings. Slam loses both queens. puCK goes for the natural and loses a bunch of units.
9:00 Slam 60 vs puCK 66 Warp prism and robotics bay for puCK. Lair and +1/1 for Slam. Slam gets through a hole in puCK's wall but puCK force fields a small area and completely traps the zerglings, killing them.
10:00 Slam 81 vs puCK 85 Slam has a spore crawler in his natural. Extended thermal lance for puCK. Zealots are dropping in the main of Slam. Twilight council for puCK. Pathogen glands for Slam.
Slam spawns in the top left puCK spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Gateway and one assimilator for puCK. Slam getting a hatchery first and a spawning pool and extractor.
3:00 Extractor is cancelled. puCK expands and gets a mothership core. puCK getting a stalker and second assimilator.
4:00 Two gateways for puCK. Sentry for puCK. Two extractors for Slam.
5:00 Mothership core patrols in the upper area. Zergling speed and two spine crawlers for Slam.
6:00 Evolution chamber for Slam. Stalkers pick off a creep tumor.
7:00 Slam 60 vs puCK 62 Slam building a lot of zerglings. puCK kills a bunch of zerglings moving out and backs up. Slam taking a third base and moving out with queens and zerglings. Slam loses both queens. puCK goes for the natural and loses a bunch of units.
9:00 Slam 60 vs puCK 66 Warp prism and robotics bay for puCK. Lair and +1/1 for Slam. Slam gets through a hole in puCK's wall but puCK force fields a small area and completely traps the zerglings, killing them.
10:00 Slam 81 vs puCK 85 Slam has a spore crawler in his natural. Extended thermal lance for puCK. Zealots are dropping in the main of Slam. Twilight council for puCK. Pathogen glands for Slam.
12:00 Slam 96 vs puCK 95 Hive on the way. Templar archives for puCK. puCK drops four zealots on the queen in the main and kills it.
13:00 Slam 120 vs puCK 109 Fourth base for Slam. Storm for puCK. Spire on the way for Slam. puCK scouting with a hallucinated phoenix.
14:00 Slam 133 vs puCK 117 Warp prism is fungalled and zealots are picked off. 3 ultralisks and +3/3 for Slam. Immortals on the way for puCK.
15:00 Slam 154 vs puCK 135 puCK's immortal is dancing in the natural. 2 more ultralisks for puCK. Lots of spine crawlers on the way for Slam. Hallucinated phoenix sees an ultralisk. Fourth base for puCK which Slam cancels.
On August 14 2014 09:13 Shellshock wrote: no chitinous plating?
yea seems like it should be a priority as +2 extra armor for tanky ultras is going to go farther than +1 extra armor for lings that will still melt to zealots and colossus
+2 or +3 zealots will 2shot any level of armor for lings right?
On August 14 2014 09:13 Shellshock wrote: no chitinous plating?
yea seems like it should be a priority as +2 extra armor for tanky ultras is going to go farther than +1 extra armor for lings that will still melt to zealots and colossus
+2 or +3 zealots will 2shot any level of armor for lings right?
I'm not sure about the zealot hits to kill lings but I guess he was just waiting for more gas before getting it.
On August 14 2014 09:13 Shellshock wrote: no chitinous plating?
yea seems like it should be a priority as +2 extra armor for tanky ultras is going to go farther than +1 extra armor for lings that will still melt to zealots and colossus
+2 or +3 zealots will 2shot any level of armor for lings right?
No, Zealots only two shot lings if they're up one level in upgrades.
Slam spawns in the top left puCK spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Gateway and one assimilator for puCK. Slam getting a hatchery first and a spawning pool and extractor.
3:00 Extractor is cancelled. puCK expands and gets a mothership core. puCK getting a stalker and second assimilator.
4:00 Two gateways for puCK. Sentry for puCK. Two extractors for Slam.
5:00 Mothership core patrols in the upper area. Zergling speed and two spine crawlers for Slam.
6:00 Evolution chamber for Slam. Stalkers pick off a creep tumor.
7:00 Slam 60 vs puCK 62 Slam building a lot of zerglings. puCK kills a bunch of zerglings moving out and backs up. Slam taking a third base and moving out with queens and zerglings. Slam loses both queens. puCK goes for the natural and loses a bunch of units.
9:00 Slam 60 vs puCK 66 Warp prism and robotics bay for puCK. Lair and +1/1 for Slam. Slam gets through a hole in puCK's wall but puCK force fields a small area and completely traps the zerglings, killing them.
10:00 Slam 81 vs puCK 85 Slam has a spore crawler in his natural. Extended thermal lance for puCK. Zealots are dropping in the main of Slam. Twilight council for puCK. Pathogen glands for Slam.
12:00 Slam 96 vs puCK 95 Hive on the way. Templar archives for puCK. puCK drops four zealots on the queen in the main and kills it.
13:00 Slam 120 vs puCK 109 Fourth base for Slam. Storm for puCK. Spire on the way for Slam. puCK scouting with a hallucinated phoenix.
14:00 Slam 133 vs puCK 117 Warp prism is fungalled and zealots are picked off. 3 ultralisks and +3/3 for Slam. Immortals on the way for puCK.
15:00 Slam 154 vs puCK 135 puCK's immortal is dancing in the natural. 2 more ultralisks for puCK. Lots of spine crawlers on the way for Slam. Hallucinated phoenix sees an ultralisk. Fourth base for puCK which Slam cancels.
16:00 Slam 182 vs puCK 164 Zerglings continually delay the fourth of puCK. Fifth for Slam. More ultralisks and some queens on the way for puCK. puCK sending an archon to defend his fourth base.
17:00 Slam 197 vs puCK 181 Slam kills his back door rocks. Slam kills an archon and some zealots in the center. puCK sends his army to his fourth. Slam has to back off. Blink and +3 finishing for puCK. Ultralisk armor finishing for Slam.
18:00 Slam 187 vs puCK 172 Spine crawlers are protecting the infestation pit. A warp prism with 3 HTs is fungalled and the HTs are picked off. +1 flier attacks for Slam. Slam getting +1 ranged attacks. Second spire for Slam.
19:00 Slam 179 vs puCK 180 Slam is pretty much on queen/viper/ultralisk. More immortals for puCK, and he has about 6-8 of them. +3 shields for puCK.
20:00 Slam 197 vs puCK 197 puCK hallucinating colossi. Slam fungals half of the army and runs in with blinding clouds. puCK cleans up the ultralisks. More ultra/ling on the way.
On August 14 2014 09:13 Shellshock wrote: no chitinous plating?
yea seems like it should be a priority as +2 extra armor for tanky ultras is going to go farther than +1 extra armor for lings that will still melt to zealots and colossus
+2 or +3 zealots will 2shot any level of armor for lings right?
I'm not sure about the zealot hits to kill lings but I guess he was just waiting for more gas before getting it.
yea but i meant chitinous should be researched first since its cheaper and i believe more useful
On August 14 2014 09:13 Shellshock wrote: no chitinous plating?
yea seems like it should be a priority as +2 extra armor for tanky ultras is going to go farther than +1 extra armor for lings that will still melt to zealots and colossus
+2 or +3 zealots will 2shot any level of armor for lings right?
I'm not sure about the zealot hits to kill lings but I guess he was just waiting for more gas before getting it.
yea but i meant chitinous should be researched first since its cheaper and i believe more useful
Slam spawns in the top left puCK spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Gateway and one assimilator for puCK. Slam getting a hatchery first and a spawning pool and extractor.
3:00 Extractor is cancelled. puCK expands and gets a mothership core. puCK getting a stalker and second assimilator.
4:00 Two gateways for puCK. Sentry for puCK. Two extractors for Slam.
5:00 Mothership core patrols in the upper area. Zergling speed and two spine crawlers for Slam.
6:00 Evolution chamber for Slam. Stalkers pick off a creep tumor.
7:00 Slam 60 vs puCK 62 Slam building a lot of zerglings. puCK kills a bunch of zerglings moving out and backs up. Slam taking a third base and moving out with queens and zerglings. Slam loses both queens. puCK goes for the natural and loses a bunch of units.
9:00 Slam 60 vs puCK 66 Warp prism and robotics bay for puCK. Lair and +1/1 for Slam. Slam gets through a hole in puCK's wall but puCK force fields a small area and completely traps the zerglings, killing them.
10:00 Slam 81 vs puCK 85 Slam has a spore crawler in his natural. Extended thermal lance for puCK. Zealots are dropping in the main of Slam. Twilight council for puCK. Pathogen glands for Slam.
12:00 Slam 96 vs puCK 95 Hive on the way. Templar archives for puCK. puCK drops four zealots on the queen in the main and kills it.
13:00 Slam 120 vs puCK 109 Fourth base for Slam. Storm for puCK. Spire on the way for Slam. puCK scouting with a hallucinated phoenix.
14:00 Slam 133 vs puCK 117 Warp prism is fungalled and zealots are picked off. 3 ultralisks and +3/3 for Slam. Immortals on the way for puCK.
15:00 Slam 154 vs puCK 135 puCK's immortal is dancing in the natural. 2 more ultralisks for puCK. Lots of spine crawlers on the way for Slam. Hallucinated phoenix sees an ultralisk. Fourth base for puCK which Slam cancels.
16:00 Slam 182 vs puCK 164 Zerglings continually delay the fourth of puCK. Fifth for Slam. More ultralisks and some queens on the way for puCK. puCK sending an archon to defend his fourth base.
17:00 Slam 197 vs puCK 181 Slam kills his back door rocks. Slam kills an archon and some zealots in the center. puCK sends his army to his fourth. Slam has to back off. Blink and +3 finishing for puCK. Ultralisk armor finishing for Slam.
18:00 Slam 187 vs puCK 172 Spine crawlers are protecting the infestation pit. A warp prism with 3 HTs is fungalled and the HTs are picked off. +1 flier attacks for Slam. Slam getting +1 ranged attacks. Second spire for Slam.
19:00 Slam 179 vs puCK 180 Slam is pretty much on queen/viper/ultralisk. More immortals for puCK, and he has about 6-8 of them. +3 shields for puCK.
20:00 Slam 197 vs puCK 197 puCK hallucinating colossi. Slam fungals half of the army and runs in with blinding clouds. puCK cleans up the ultralisks. More ultra/ling on the way.
22:00 Slam 195 vs puCK 97 Slam reinforces and saves his fifth. Queens kill a colossi. Slam going for the fifth of puCK which hasn't been built yet.
23:00 Slam 181 vs puCK 104 Zealots and immortals push Slam back. More infestors on the way. puCK still hasn't taken his fifth yet. puCK tries to catch Slam off guard with his army split up but fungals and blinding clouds combined with ultralisks clean up the army. Slam goes for the fourth of puCK. Archons and immortals are abducted into the meat grinder.
25:00 Slam 187 vs puCK 72 Greater spire for Slam. Slam getting a few more ultralisks. Slam has 3500 gas. puCK loses control of his 4th and GG's! Slam ties the series up, 1-1!
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That was really weird. I felt puCK was compositionally ahead and during the first fight he looked fairly even. But then he got caught out and was 100 supply down. I guess Slam was just too rich.
edit: Looking at the first fight again, he ended up 70 supply down, despite the fight looking ok. The zerg remax is just too scary, and he overextended.
On August 14 2014 09:16 Undead1993 wrote: i don't see slam winning, so many immortals, scary stuff
I guess if you're a really great micro-er it doesnt matter 0_0
they were highlighting one immortal after the first fight was over, puck was not maxed out on upgrades, maybe then it looks different? i don't know, but really didn't think slam would be able to do it. pleasantly surprised
On August 14 2014 09:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote: That was really weird. I felt puCK was compositionally ahead and during the first fight he looked fairly even. But then he got caught out and was 100 supply down. I guess Slam was just too rich.
if zerg has vipers you need to position well, immortal count isnt enough
also once he lost his colossus in that stupid overextension onto creep into a remax 3/3 lings became a lot more deadly
On August 14 2014 09:13 Shellshock wrote: no chitinous plating?
yea seems like it should be a priority as +2 extra armor for tanky ultras is going to go farther than +1 extra armor for lings that will still melt to zealots and colossus
+2 or +3 zealots will 2shot any level of armor for lings right?
I'm not sure about the zealot hits to kill lings but I guess he was just waiting for more gas before getting it.
max and banking 2k gas, he was waiting for more gas?
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On August 14 2014 09:13 Shellshock wrote: no chitinous plating?
yea seems like it should be a priority as +2 extra armor for tanky ultras is going to go farther than +1 extra armor for lings that will still melt to zealots and colossus
+2 or +3 zealots will 2shot any level of armor for lings right?
I'm not sure about the zealot hits to kill lings but I guess he was just waiting for more gas before getting it.
max and banking 2k gas, he was waiting for more gas?
He spent all his gas on ultras and was sitting sub 200 gas right after I posted it
On August 14 2014 09:13 Shellshock wrote: no chitinous plating?
yea seems like it should be a priority as +2 extra armor for tanky ultras is going to go farther than +1 extra armor for lings that will still melt to zealots and colossus
+2 or +3 zealots will 2shot any level of armor for lings right?
I'm not sure about the zealot hits to kill lings but I guess he was just waiting for more gas before getting it.
max and banking 2k gas, he was waiting for more gas?
He spent all his gas on ultras and was sitting sub 200 gas right after I posted it
well i guess he could have afforded it earlier, on the first max out
This was a surprising series in many ways. Definitely will make me reconsider the way I feel about those infestors ultras styles, with adequate micro and vipers it seemed amazingly able to take fights even against an army designed to slaughter it. I would have liked to see pucK have some more storms and to take other walled bases before engaging (if you wall them correctly the ultra player can't really do anything until he has brood lords), then try to kill the remaxes as they hatch.
On August 14 2014 09:26 [PkF] Wire wrote: This was a surprising series in many ways. Definitely will make me reconsider the way I feel about those infestors ultras styles, with adequate micro and vipers it seemed amazingly able to take fights even against an army designed to slaughter it. I would have liked to see pucK have some more storms and to take other walled bases before engaging (if you wall them correctly the ultra player can't really do anything until he has brood lords), then try to kill the remaxes as they hatch.
i dont see how he could have attacked any sooner to "kill the remax as it hatched", he went immediately after the fight and ran headlong into the remax which is what lost him his whole army + 3 colossus
as much as the immortals are important if you dont have colossus then ling/infestor suddenly wrecks protoss
Slam spawns in the top left puCK spawns in the top right
2:00 Gateway and assimilator for puCK. Slam goes hatchery first. Third hatchery before pool for Slam. Cybernetics core for puCK. puCK scouting the right way.
3:00 Extractor for Slam, followed by a spawning pool. puCK expands.
4:00 Slam getting a stalker. Stalker moving out to pressure the third base. Zergling speed for Slam.
5:00 Slam surrounds a stalker and kills it. Twilight council for puCK. puCK backs off. Overlord scouting the tech of puCK.
On August 14 2014 09:26 [PkF] Wire wrote: This was a surprising series in many ways. Definitely will make me reconsider the way I feel about those infestors ultras styles, with adequate micro and vipers it seemed amazingly able to take fights even against an army designed to slaughter it. I would have liked to see pucK have some more storms and to take other walled bases before engaging (if you wall them correctly the ultra player can't really do anything until he has brood lords), then try to kill the remaxes as they hatch.
i dont see how he could have attacked any sooner to "kill the remax as it hatched", he went immediately after the fight and ran headlong into the remax which is what lost him his whole army + 3 colossus
as much as the immortals are important if you dont have colossus then ling/infestor suddenly wrecks protoss
His army composition wasn't perfect. When you face ultra styles you aim for literally mass archons + immortals + templars for feedbacks and storms because it will literally kill any remax. He had a bit too many chargelots for my taste, he could have sacrificed some for harass while building up a gas heavy army behind his walls. And no armor upgrades definitely hurt. It was complicated anyway, don't get me wrong, infestor ling kinda make you need colossi but then vipers counter them so it becomes a micro war. Tricky style, good for Zergs who can micro 3-4 army groups without any problem I guess.
Slam spawns in the top left puCK spawns in the top right
2:00 Gateway and assimilator for puCK. Slam goes hatchery first. Third hatchery before pool for Slam. Cybernetics core for puCK. puCK scouting the right way.
3:00 Extractor for Slam, followed by a spawning pool. puCK expands.
4:00 Slam getting a stalker. Stalker moving out to pressure the third base. Zergling speed for Slam.
5:00 Slam surrounds a stalker and kills it. Twilight council for puCK. puCK backs off. Overlord scouting the tech of puCK.
6:00 Slam putting on pressure with zerglings. puCK getting blink. puCK adding on two more gateways. Roach warren for Slam.
7:00 Slam 59 vs puCK 53 Lair for Slam. Robotics facility and forge for puCK. Sentries for puCK. puCK trying to take a third base but zerglings are parked outside the main.
8:00 Slam 78 vs puCK 69 +1 attack for puCK. Observer on the way. puCK takes the third. +1/1 for Slam. puCK proxying a pylon.
9:00 Slam 93 vs puCK 81 Overseer scouts everything. Immortal for puCK.
10:00 Slam 99 vs puCK 93 Two more gateways for puCK. Infestation pit and fourth base for Slam. Roach speed for Slam.
On August 14 2014 09:26 [PkF] Wire wrote: This was a surprising series in many ways. Definitely will make me reconsider the way I feel about those infestors ultras styles, with adequate micro and vipers it seemed amazingly able to take fights even against an army designed to slaughter it. I would have liked to see pucK have some more storms and to take other walled bases before engaging (if you wall them correctly the ultra player can't really do anything until he has brood lords), then try to kill the remaxes as they hatch.
i dont see how he could have attacked any sooner to "kill the remax as it hatched", he went immediately after the fight and ran headlong into the remax which is what lost him his whole army + 3 colossus
as much as the immortals are important if you dont have colossus then ling/infestor suddenly wrecks protoss
His army composition wasn't perfect. When you face ultra styles you aim for literally mass archons + immortals + templars for feedbacks and storms because it will literally kill any remax. He had a bit too many chargelots for my taste, he could have sacrificed some for harass while building up a gas heavy army behind his walls. And no armor upgrades definitely hurt. It was complicated anyway, don't get me wrong.
yea you may be right but i honestly think the bigger problem for puck was how he positioned/took engagements and his decision making in when to counterattack. i dont think a top level protoss would have lost if you gave them control of what puck had
Slam spawns in the top left puCK spawns in the top right
2:00 Gateway and assimilator for puCK. Slam goes hatchery first. Third hatchery before pool for Slam. Cybernetics core for puCK. puCK scouting the right way.
3:00 Extractor for Slam, followed by a spawning pool. puCK expands.
4:00 Slam getting a stalker. Stalker moving out to pressure the third base. Zergling speed for Slam.
5:00 Slam surrounds a stalker and kills it. Twilight council for puCK. puCK backs off. Overlord scouting the tech of puCK.
6:00 Slam putting on pressure with zerglings. puCK getting blink. puCK adding on two more gateways. Roach warren for Slam.
7:00 Slam 59 vs puCK 53 Lair for Slam. Robotics facility and forge for puCK. Sentries for puCK. puCK trying to take a third base but zerglings are parked outside the main.
8:00 Slam 78 vs puCK 69 +1 attack for puCK. Observer on the way. puCK takes the third. +1/1 for Slam. puCK proxying a pylon.
9:00 Slam 93 vs puCK 81 Overseer scouts everything. Immortal for puCK.
10:00 Slam 99 vs puCK 93 Two more gateways for puCK. Infestation pit and fourth base for Slam. Roach speed for Slam.
11:00 Slam 118 vs puCK 119 Slam cancels his fourth base for zealots. Infestors on the way. Hive for Slam. Roach speed on the way.
12:00 Slam 138 vs puCK 121 Slam surrounds an immortal and kills it, and 1 zergling gets into the main. Slam's fourth is finally under construction again. Templar archives on the way. puCK building a cannon next to a proxy pylon. puCK forces a cancel on the fourth of Slam.
13:00 Slam 148 vs puCK 155 Slam attacks the third with zerglings and forces a recall. Slam nearly kills HTs but they morph into archons.
15:00 Slam 182 vs puCK 168 7 ultralisks on the way. puCK cancels the fourth of Slam. Slam's units are in the center. Three ultralisks are isolated but they don't get picked off. Slam attacks and lands amazing fungals and blinding clouds.
Slam spawns in the top left puCK spawns in the top right
2:00 Gateway and assimilator for puCK. Slam goes hatchery first. Third hatchery before pool for Slam. Cybernetics core for puCK. puCK scouting the right way.
3:00 Extractor for Slam, followed by a spawning pool. puCK expands.
4:00 Slam getting a stalker. Stalker moving out to pressure the third base. Zergling speed for Slam.
5:00 Slam surrounds a stalker and kills it. Twilight council for puCK. puCK backs off. Overlord scouting the tech of puCK.
6:00 Slam putting on pressure with zerglings. puCK getting blink. puCK adding on two more gateways. Roach warren for Slam.
7:00 Slam 59 vs puCK 53 Lair for Slam. Robotics facility and forge for puCK. Sentries for puCK. puCK trying to take a third base but zerglings are parked outside the main.
8:00 Slam 78 vs puCK 69 +1 attack for puCK. Observer on the way. puCK takes the third. +1/1 for Slam. puCK proxying a pylon.
9:00 Slam 93 vs puCK 81 Overseer scouts everything. Immortal for puCK.
10:00 Slam 99 vs puCK 93 Two more gateways for puCK. Infestation pit and fourth base for Slam. Roach speed for Slam.
11:00 Slam 118 vs puCK 119 Slam cancels his fourth base for zealots. Infestors on the way. Hive for Slam. Roach speed on the way.
12:00 Slam 138 vs puCK 121 Slam surrounds an immortal and kills it, and 1 zergling gets into the main. Slam's fourth is finally under construction again. Templar archives on the way. puCK building a cannon next to a proxy pylon. puCK forces a cancel on the fourth of Slam.
13:00 Slam 148 vs puCK 155 Slam attacks the third with zerglings and forces a recall. Slam nearly kills HTs but they morph into archons.
15:00 Slam 182 vs puCK 168 7 ultralisks on the way. puCK cancels the fourth of Slam. Slam's units are in the center. Three ultralisks are isolated but they don't get picked off. Slam attacks and lands amazing fungals and blinding clouds.
17:00 Slam 160 vs puCK 124 Slam kills off most of the army but puCK retains some blink stalkers. puCK taking a fourth base. puCK reinforcing with 3 immortals and zealots. More vipers on the way for Slam. Slam's fourth base is cancelled again.
18:00 Slam 197 vs puCK 159 Slam sending zerglings to cancel the fourth base. Sentries and zealots are warped in to defend, but they all die and the nexus falls after completing.
19:00 Slam 196 vs puCK 157 Slam taking a forward fourth base. Fungal on a mothership core and it recalls. Pylons used to block ultralisks but Slam goes in anyway. Blinding clouds but a lot of the ultralisks are blocked off. Two immortals survive. Slam reinforces with two ultralisks + queens.
20:00 Slam 167 vs puCK 83 Slam going into the fourth base of puCK which just completed again. puCK has nothing to defend. puCK loses his fourth base.
On August 14 2014 09:36 [PkF] Wire wrote: God this army cost efficiency is insane. I think this style has to get some love, it seems really rock solid.
yea i remember seeing one of the top zergs (roro or true? idk) use it on sejong in proleague and wreck face with it in a really extended macro game. its map dependent i think, on huge maps like deadwing i think it would be awful
On August 14 2014 09:39 [PkF] Wire wrote: Fully upgraded zerglings really rock... I'm literally blown out by this style. I absolutely love it.
did puck skip colossus in this game or did they get killed again? i really think you need at least 1-2 to fight ling/infestor, you cant just counter the ultras against a player who goes for a complete composition like slam is
Slam spawns in the top left puCK spawns in the top right
2:00 Gateway and assimilator for puCK. Slam goes hatchery first. Third hatchery before pool for Slam. Cybernetics core for puCK. puCK scouting the right way.
3:00 Extractor for Slam, followed by a spawning pool. puCK expands.
4:00 Slam getting a stalker. Stalker moving out to pressure the third base. Zergling speed for Slam.
5:00 Slam surrounds a stalker and kills it. Twilight council for puCK. puCK backs off. Overlord scouting the tech of puCK.
6:00 Slam putting on pressure with zerglings. puCK getting blink. puCK adding on two more gateways. Roach warren for Slam.
7:00 Slam 59 vs puCK 53 Lair for Slam. Robotics facility and forge for puCK. Sentries for puCK. puCK trying to take a third base but zerglings are parked outside the main.
8:00 Slam 78 vs puCK 69 +1 attack for puCK. Observer on the way. puCK takes the third. +1/1 for Slam. puCK proxying a pylon.
9:00 Slam 93 vs puCK 81 Overseer scouts everything. Immortal for puCK.
10:00 Slam 99 vs puCK 93 Two more gateways for puCK. Infestation pit and fourth base for Slam. Roach speed for Slam.
11:00 Slam 118 vs puCK 119 Slam cancels his fourth base for zealots. Infestors on the way. Hive for Slam. Roach speed on the way.
12:00 Slam 138 vs puCK 121 Slam surrounds an immortal and kills it, and 1 zergling gets into the main. Slam's fourth is finally under construction again. Templar archives on the way. puCK building a cannon next to a proxy pylon. puCK forces a cancel on the fourth of Slam.
13:00 Slam 148 vs puCK 155 Slam attacks the third with zerglings and forces a recall. Slam nearly kills HTs but they morph into archons.
15:00 Slam 182 vs puCK 168 7 ultralisks on the way. puCK cancels the fourth of Slam. Slam's units are in the center. Three ultralisks are isolated but they don't get picked off. Slam attacks and lands amazing fungals and blinding clouds.
17:00 Slam 160 vs puCK 124 Slam kills off most of the army but puCK retains some blink stalkers. puCK taking a fourth base. puCK reinforcing with 3 immortals and zealots. More vipers on the way for Slam. Slam's fourth base is cancelled again.
18:00 Slam 197 vs puCK 159 Slam sending zerglings to cancel the fourth base. Sentries and zealots are warped in to defend, but they all die and the nexus falls after completing.
19:00 Slam 196 vs puCK 157 Slam taking a forward fourth base. Fungal on a mothership core and it recalls. Pylons used to block ultralisks but Slam goes in anyway. Blinding clouds but a lot of the ultralisks are blocked off. Two immortals survive. Slam reinforces with two ultralisks + queens.
20:00 Slam 167 vs puCK 83 Slam going into the fourth base of puCK which just completed again. puCK has nothing to defend. puCK loses his fourth base.
22:00 Slam 163 vs puCK 89 Slam going after the third base of puCK. puCK has a few immortals and archons to defend.
23:00 Slam 162 vs puCK 90 puCK kiting with archons and immortals. Vipers abduct all of the heavy units and Slam kills them off. puCK loses the probes in his third. Zealots are warped in and killed. The third of puCK falls. Slam cleans up more zealots and the last archon.
24:00 Slam 178 vs puCK 44 Slam runs into the main of puCK. puCK GG's! Slam wins 2-1!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
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★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
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9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 14 2014 09:39 [PkF] Wire wrote: Fully upgraded zerglings really rock... I'm literally blown out by this style. I absolutely love it.
did puck skip colossus in this game or did they get killed again? i really think you need at least 1-2 to fight ling/infestor, you cant just counter the ultras against a player who goes for a complete composition like slam is
On August 14 2014 09:39 [PkF] Wire wrote: Fully upgraded zerglings really rock... I'm literally blown out by this style. I absolutely love it.
did puck skip colossus in this game or did they get killed again? i really think you need at least 1-2 to fight ling/infestor, you cant just counter the ultras against a player who goes for a complete composition like slam is
On August 14 2014 09:39 [PkF] Wire wrote: Fully upgraded zerglings really rock... I'm literally blown out by this style. I absolutely love it.
did puck skip colossus in this game or did they get killed again? i really think you need at least 1-2 to fight ling/infestor, you cant just counter the ultras against a player who goes for a complete composition like slam is
Well the things that makes it tricky is how fast Slam gets full energy vipers, which really makes the Protoss reluctant to produce colossi (though perhaps needed, I have no idea). I'm however really convinced you need storm to fight this composition, and, more importantly, feedbacks. It should then boil down to a control battle which is great.
Really cool PvZ from Slam. It looks really strong in large engagements against the Protoss deathball. I think that a better upgraded protoss that takes lots of small engagements can deal with it though.
On August 14 2014 09:42 Dwayn wrote: definitely more fun to watch than swarnhosts
This. I need this replay NAO ! :D I mean, infestors in case of stalkers blink, transfuse on ultras and blinding cloud on ranged units ? What more do you want ?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
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★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
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9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 14 2014 09:42 Dwayn wrote: definitely more fun to watch than swarnhosts
Though similar in the idea (calmly staying on equal bases while building an army that can fight cost effectively) this style is indeed infinitely more entertaining.
On August 14 2014 09:39 [PkF] Wire wrote: Fully upgraded zerglings really rock... I'm literally blown out by this style. I absolutely love it.
did puck skip colossus in this game or did they get killed again? i really think you need at least 1-2 to fight ling/infestor, you cant just counter the ultras against a player who goes for a complete composition like slam is
Well the things that makes it tricky is how fast Slam gets full energy vipers, which really makes the Protoss reluctant to produce colossi (though perhaps needed, I have no idea). I'm however really convinced you need storm to fight this composition, and, more importantly, feedbacks. It should then boil down to a control battle which is great.
yea, needs better use of templar for sure. the reason i like to see colossus is because even with abducts they can usually roast a few groups of lings/target down some infestors before dying even with vipers out, and it prevents the zerg from moving around as confidently before the engagement goes full out
On August 14 2014 09:42 Dwayn wrote: definitely more fun to watch than swarnhosts
Though similar in the idea (calmly staying on equal bases while building an army that can fight cost effectively) this style is indeed infinitely more entertaining.
I mean, when the idea behind building SH is 'let's mine out our half of the map each and i'll try to be more cost efficient overall' it is boring
On August 14 2014 09:42 Dwayn wrote: definitely more fun to watch than swarnhosts
Though similar in the idea (calmly staying on equal bases while building an army that can fight cost effectively) this style is indeed infinitely more entertaining.
I mean, when the idea behind building SH is 'let's mine out our half of the map each and i'll try to be more cost efficient overall' it is boring
I think we were talking about mass swarmhost styles (into vipers + infestors later on) the -horrible- idea of which you gave a good summary ^^. Light swarmhost styles are entertaining but alas not as succesful so far. I remember Revival and Soulkey playing around with some really cool 10/12 (10 for Revival, 12 for Soulkey) swarm hosts styles with whom they were very mobile and adapted the rest of their army to the Protoss reaction, but it seems they gave up on it.
TvT is probably the mu I understand the less, having never played it seriously even when I played around with random. This one should be entertaining though.
Bomber spawns in the top left Major spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Barracks and refinery for Major. Barracks for Bomber. Marine for Bomber. Refinery for Bomber. Factory for Major.
3:00 Reaper for Major. Bomber also getting a factory. Starport on the way for both players.
4:00 Major scouting with a reaper and he sees everything but the reaper dies. Raven for Major. Bomber expanding. Major getting a widow mine. Bomber is also getting a widow mine.
5:00 Reactor for Major. Major expands. Major is getting a tank and viking. Third CC for Bomber.
Bomber spawns in the top left Major spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Barracks and refinery for Major. Barracks for Bomber. Marine for Bomber. Refinery for Bomber. Factory for Major.
3:00 Reaper for Major. Bomber also getting a factory. Starport on the way for both players.
4:00 Major scouting with a reaper and he sees everything but the reaper dies. Raven for Major. Bomber expanding. Major getting a widow mine. Bomber is also getting a widow mine.
5:00 Reactor for Major. Major expands. Major is getting a tank and viking. Third CC for Bomber.
6:00 Bomber hasn't scouted yet. Viking for both players. Tanks for both players.
7:00 Bomber 48 vs MajOr 54 Engineering bay and barracks for Bomber. Major getting hellions. Second factory for Major. Major moving out with two tanks and a medivac full of marines. Bomber doesn't see the attack until Major is practical in the main.
9:00 Bomber 68 vs MajOr 65 Bomber kills a medivac full of marines. Major backs off but kills a bunch of workers with hellions in the natural.
10:00 Bomber 70 vs MajOr 75 Infernal pre-igniters for Major. Combat shields for Bomber. Bomber scanning. Major going for a hellion drop.
Bomber spawns in the top left Major spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Barracks and refinery for Major. Barracks for Bomber. Marine for Bomber. Refinery for Bomber. Factory for Major.
3:00 Reaper for Major. Bomber also getting a factory. Starport on the way for both players.
4:00 Major scouting with a reaper and he sees everything but the reaper dies. Raven for Major. Bomber expanding. Major getting a widow mine. Bomber is also getting a widow mine.
5:00 Reactor for Major. Major expands. Major is getting a tank and viking. Third CC for Bomber.
6:00 Bomber hasn't scouted yet. Viking for both players. Tanks for both players.
7:00 Bomber 48 vs MajOr 54 Engineering bay and barracks for Bomber. Major getting hellions. Second factory for Major. Major moving out with two tanks and a medivac full of marines. Bomber doesn't see the attack until Major is practical in the main.
9:00 Bomber 68 vs MajOr 65 Bomber kills a medivac full of marines. Major backs off but kills a bunch of workers with hellions in the natural.
10:00 Bomber 70 vs MajOr 75 Infernal pre-igniters for Major. Combat shields for Bomber. Bomber scanning. Major going for a hellion drop.
12:00 Bomber 102 vs MajOr 93 Bomber sieging outside the natural of Major. Hellion drop and hellion runby in Bomber's main and natural.
13:00 Bomber 113 vs MajOr 95 Bomber killing SCVs with tanks. Major takes air control and prevents Bomber from killing any more. Concussive shells for Bomber. Major getting an armory.
14:00 Bomber 121 vs MajOr 103 Bomber moving out. Major taking a third base. Bomber taking a third base as well. Bomber sieging up outside the third base of Major.
15:00 Bomber 160 vs MajOr 137 Bomber stims forwards and loses his entire supply lead immediately. Bomber retreats.
Bomber spawns in the top left Major spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Barracks and refinery for Major. Barracks for Bomber. Marine for Bomber. Refinery for Bomber. Factory for Major.
3:00 Reaper for Major. Bomber also getting a factory. Starport on the way for both players.
4:00 Major scouting with a reaper and he sees everything but the reaper dies. Raven for Major. Bomber expanding. Major getting a widow mine. Bomber is also getting a widow mine.
5:00 Reactor for Major. Major expands. Major is getting a tank and viking. Third CC for Bomber.
6:00 Bomber hasn't scouted yet. Viking for both players. Tanks for both players.
7:00 Bomber 48 vs MajOr 54 Engineering bay and barracks for Bomber. Major getting hellions. Second factory for Major. Major moving out with two tanks and a medivac full of marines. Bomber doesn't see the attack until Major is practical in the main.
9:00 Bomber 68 vs MajOr 65 Bomber kills a medivac full of marines. Major backs off but kills a bunch of workers with hellions in the natural.
10:00 Bomber 70 vs MajOr 75 Infernal pre-igniters for Major. Combat shields for Bomber. Bomber scanning. Major going for a hellion drop.
12:00 Bomber 102 vs MajOr 93 Bomber sieging outside the natural of Major. Hellion drop and hellion runby in Bomber's main and natural.
13:00 Bomber 113 vs MajOr 95 Bomber killing SCVs with tanks. Major takes air control and prevents Bomber from killing any more. Concussive shells for Bomber. Major getting an armory.
14:00 Bomber 121 vs MajOr 103 Bomber moving out. Major taking a third base. Bomber taking a third base as well. Bomber sieging up outside the third base of Major.
15:00 Bomber 160 vs MajOr 137 Bomber stims forwards and loses his entire supply lead immediately. Bomber retreats.
17:00 Bomber 157 vs MajOr 143 Bomber going for the backdoor of Major's natural expansion again. Major loses all of his vikings to marines. Tanks shred part of the worker line.
18:00 Bomber 183 vs MajOr 148 A banshee gets out for Major and kills a few tanks outside Major's natural Bomber going for the third base. Major sieging up. Major sees Bomber take a fourth base. Bomber drops the main and gets 2 medivacs in.
19:00 Bomber 196 vs MajOr 182 Bomber kills a bunch of supply depots, a banshee, and some SCVs. Bomber sieges up outside Major's natural again.
20:00 Bomber 172 vs MajOr 112 Bomber getting +3/3. Bomber breaks the backdoor rocks. Bomber going for the natural and third base at the same time.
Bomber spawns in the top left Major spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Barracks and refinery for Major. Barracks for Bomber. Marine for Bomber. Refinery for Bomber. Factory for Major.
3:00 Reaper for Major. Bomber also getting a factory. Starport on the way for both players.
4:00 Major scouting with a reaper and he sees everything but the reaper dies. Raven for Major. Bomber expanding. Major getting a widow mine. Bomber is also getting a widow mine.
5:00 Reactor for Major. Major expands. Major is getting a tank and viking. Third CC for Bomber.
6:00 Bomber hasn't scouted yet. Viking for both players. Tanks for both players.
7:00 Bomber 48 vs MajOr 54 Engineering bay and barracks for Bomber. Major getting hellions. Second factory for Major. Major moving out with two tanks and a medivac full of marines. Bomber doesn't see the attack until Major is practical in the main.
9:00 Bomber 68 vs MajOr 65 Bomber kills a medivac full of marines. Major backs off but kills a bunch of workers with hellions in the natural.
10:00 Bomber 70 vs MajOr 75 Infernal pre-igniters for Major. Combat shields for Bomber. Bomber scanning. Major going for a hellion drop.
12:00 Bomber 102 vs MajOr 93 Bomber sieging outside the natural of Major. Hellion drop and hellion runby in Bomber's main and natural.
13:00 Bomber 113 vs MajOr 95 Bomber killing SCVs with tanks. Major takes air control and prevents Bomber from killing any more. Concussive shells for Bomber. Major getting an armory.
14:00 Bomber 121 vs MajOr 103 Bomber moving out. Major taking a third base. Bomber taking a third base as well. Bomber sieging up outside the third base of Major.
15:00 Bomber 160 vs MajOr 137 Bomber stims forwards and loses his entire supply lead immediately. Bomber retreats.
17:00 Bomber 157 vs MajOr 143 Bomber going for the backdoor of Major's natural expansion again. Major loses all of his vikings to marines. Tanks shred part of the worker line.
18:00 Bomber 183 vs MajOr 148 A banshee gets out for Major and kills a few tanks outside Major's natural Bomber going for the third base. Major sieging up. Major sees Bomber take a fourth base. Bomber drops the main and gets 2 medivacs in.
19:00 Bomber 196 vs MajOr 182 Bomber kills a bunch of supply depots, a banshee, and some SCVs. Bomber sieges up outside Major's natural again.
20:00 Bomber 172 vs MajOr 112 Bomber getting +3/3. Bomber breaks the backdoor rocks. Bomber going for the natural and third base at the same time.
21:00 Bomber 187 vs MajOr 137 Banshee for Major. Major getting a 4th CC.
22:00 Bomber 187 vs MajOr 153 A Major banshee kills a tank and backs off. Bomber swinging back around from the natural backdoor towards the center. Major taking the high ground near the center. Bomber loses some bio units to tanks. Hellbats kill some SCVs in the third of Bomber.
24:00 Bomber 196 vs MajOr 175 Bomber running into the natural with all of his units and kills all of the tanks parked there. Major kills the fourth of Bomber and tries to go into the natural. Bomber has plenty of units in his natural.
25:00 Bomber 143 vs MajOr 113 Major backing off. Bomber attacking the third base of Major. Major can't get back in time and goes for the third instead.
27:00 Bomber 125 vs MajOr 81 Bomber trying to re-take a third base. One Major hellbat kills 40 workers in the third of Bomber.
What he did is really clever. On a low eco scenario he knows Bomber will mule like a madman and is very unlikely to have a scan. The banshee cloak was some nice move (edit : unfortunately Bomber has so many orbitals it doesn't matter).
Bomber spawns in the top left Major spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Barracks and refinery for Major. Barracks for Bomber. Marine for Bomber. Refinery for Bomber. Factory for Major.
3:00 Reaper for Major. Bomber also getting a factory. Starport on the way for both players.
4:00 Major scouting with a reaper and he sees everything but the reaper dies. Raven for Major. Bomber expanding. Major getting a widow mine. Bomber is also getting a widow mine.
5:00 Reactor for Major. Major expands. Major is getting a tank and viking. Third CC for Bomber.
6:00 Bomber hasn't scouted yet. Viking for both players. Tanks for both players.
7:00 Bomber 48 vs MajOr 54 Engineering bay and barracks for Bomber. Major getting hellions. Second factory for Major. Major moving out with two tanks and a medivac full of marines. Bomber doesn't see the attack until Major is practical in the main.
9:00 Bomber 68 vs MajOr 65 Bomber kills a medivac full of marines. Major backs off but kills a bunch of workers with hellions in the natural.
10:00 Bomber 70 vs MajOr 75 Infernal pre-igniters for Major. Combat shields for Bomber. Bomber scanning. Major going for a hellion drop.
12:00 Bomber 102 vs MajOr 93 Bomber sieging outside the natural of Major. Hellion drop and hellion runby in Bomber's main and natural.
13:00 Bomber 113 vs MajOr 95 Bomber killing SCVs with tanks. Major takes air control and prevents Bomber from killing any more. Concussive shells for Bomber. Major getting an armory.
14:00 Bomber 121 vs MajOr 103 Bomber moving out. Major taking a third base. Bomber taking a third base as well. Bomber sieging up outside the third base of Major.
15:00 Bomber 160 vs MajOr 137 Bomber stims forwards and loses his entire supply lead immediately. Bomber retreats.
17:00 Bomber 157 vs MajOr 143 Bomber going for the backdoor of Major's natural expansion again. Major loses all of his vikings to marines. Tanks shred part of the worker line.
18:00 Bomber 183 vs MajOr 148 A banshee gets out for Major and kills a few tanks outside Major's natural Bomber going for the third base. Major sieging up. Major sees Bomber take a fourth base. Bomber drops the main and gets 2 medivacs in.
19:00 Bomber 196 vs MajOr 182 Bomber kills a bunch of supply depots, a banshee, and some SCVs. Bomber sieges up outside Major's natural again.
20:00 Bomber 172 vs MajOr 112 Bomber getting +3/3. Bomber breaks the backdoor rocks. Bomber going for the natural and third base at the same time.
21:00 Bomber 187 vs MajOr 137 Banshee for Major. Major getting a 4th CC.
22:00 Bomber 187 vs MajOr 153 A Major banshee kills a tank and backs off. Bomber swinging back around from the natural backdoor towards the center. Major taking the high ground near the center. Bomber loses some bio units to tanks. Hellbats kill some SCVs in the third of Bomber.
24:00 Bomber 196 vs MajOr 175 Bomber running into the natural with all of his units and kills all of the tanks parked there. Major kills the fourth of Bomber and tries to go into the natural. Bomber has plenty of units in his natural.
25:00 Bomber 143 vs MajOr 113 Major backing off. Bomber attacking the third base of Major. Major can't get back in time and goes for the third instead.
27:00 Bomber 125 vs MajOr 81 Bomber trying to re-take a third base. One Major hellbat kills 40 workers in the third of Bomber.
28:00 Bomber 104 vs MajOr 84 Banshees + cloak for Major. Major re-took his third base. Bomber took Major's fourth base. Bomber has a bunch of hidden CCs in the bottom left actually. Major pushing forwards.
29:00 Bomber 147 vs MajOr 97 A banshee kills off a tank of Bomber. Scan allows the thor to damage the tank. Second banshee gets there. One banshee is picked off.
30:00 Bomber 162 vs MajOr 104 A few tanks are picked off by banshees but the banshees die. Major still hasn't seen Bomber's hidden base.
Bomber spawns in the top left Major spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Barracks and refinery for Major. Barracks for Bomber. Marine for Bomber. Refinery for Bomber. Factory for Major.
3:00 Reaper for Major. Bomber also getting a factory. Starport on the way for both players.
4:00 Major scouting with a reaper and he sees everything but the reaper dies. Raven for Major. Bomber expanding. Major getting a widow mine. Bomber is also getting a widow mine.
5:00 Reactor for Major. Major expands. Major is getting a tank and viking. Third CC for Bomber.
6:00 Bomber hasn't scouted yet. Viking for both players. Tanks for both players.
7:00 Bomber 48 vs MajOr 54 Engineering bay and barracks for Bomber. Major getting hellions. Second factory for Major. Major moving out with two tanks and a medivac full of marines. Bomber doesn't see the attack until Major is practical in the main.
9:00 Bomber 68 vs MajOr 65 Bomber kills a medivac full of marines. Major backs off but kills a bunch of workers with hellions in the natural.
10:00 Bomber 70 vs MajOr 75 Infernal pre-igniters for Major. Combat shields for Bomber. Bomber scanning. Major going for a hellion drop.
12:00 Bomber 102 vs MajOr 93 Bomber sieging outside the natural of Major. Hellion drop and hellion runby in Bomber's main and natural.
13:00 Bomber 113 vs MajOr 95 Bomber killing SCVs with tanks. Major takes air control and prevents Bomber from killing any more. Concussive shells for Bomber. Major getting an armory.
14:00 Bomber 121 vs MajOr 103 Bomber moving out. Major taking a third base. Bomber taking a third base as well. Bomber sieging up outside the third base of Major.
15:00 Bomber 160 vs MajOr 137 Bomber stims forwards and loses his entire supply lead immediately. Bomber retreats.
17:00 Bomber 157 vs MajOr 143 Bomber going for the backdoor of Major's natural expansion again. Major loses all of his vikings to marines. Tanks shred part of the worker line.
18:00 Bomber 183 vs MajOr 148 A banshee gets out for Major and kills a few tanks outside Major's natural Bomber going for the third base. Major sieging up. Major sees Bomber take a fourth base. Bomber drops the main and gets 2 medivacs in.
19:00 Bomber 196 vs MajOr 182 Bomber kills a bunch of supply depots, a banshee, and some SCVs. Bomber sieges up outside Major's natural again.
20:00 Bomber 172 vs MajOr 112 Bomber getting +3/3. Bomber breaks the backdoor rocks. Bomber going for the natural and third base at the same time.
21:00 Bomber 187 vs MajOr 137 Banshee for Major. Major getting a 4th CC.
22:00 Bomber 187 vs MajOr 153 A Major banshee kills a tank and backs off. Bomber swinging back around from the natural backdoor towards the center. Major taking the high ground near the center. Bomber loses some bio units to tanks. Hellbats kill some SCVs in the third of Bomber.
24:00 Bomber 196 vs MajOr 175 Bomber running into the natural with all of his units and kills all of the tanks parked there. Major kills the fourth of Bomber and tries to go into the natural. Bomber has plenty of units in his natural.
25:00 Bomber 143 vs MajOr 113 Major backing off. Bomber attacking the third base of Major. Major can't get back in time and goes for the third instead.
27:00 Bomber 125 vs MajOr 81 Bomber trying to re-take a third base. One Major hellbat kills 40 workers in the third of Bomber.
28:00 Bomber 104 vs MajOr 84 Banshees + cloak for Major. Major re-took his third base. Bomber took Major's fourth base. Bomber has a bunch of hidden CCs in the bottom left actually. Major pushing forwards.
29:00 Bomber 147 vs MajOr 97 A banshee kills off a tank of Bomber. Scan allows the thor to damage the tank. Second banshee gets there. One banshee is picked off.
30:00 Bomber 162 vs MajOr 104 A few tanks are picked off by banshees but the banshees die. Major still hasn't seen Bomber's hidden base.
32:00 Bomber 171 vs MajOr 101 Bomber going for the third of Major with a small bio force. Major unsieging and backing off. The last CC of Major falls and he only has 66 minerals. Major GG's! Bomber takes the first game!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
22%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
11%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Bomber spawns in the top right Major spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Gas first for Bomber. Barracks for Major. Major getting his own refinery.
3:00 Factory for Bomber. Major scouts. Starport for Bomber.
4:00 Bomber lifting his barracks and factory to wall. Banshee for Bomber, off one gas. CC for Bomber. Major getting a starport.
5:00 Widow mine for Bomber. Cloak banshee for Major. Engineering bay for Bomber.
6:00 Major getting his own CC in his main. Viking for Bomber. Raven for Major. Widow mine nearly gets the banshee. Bomber kiting marines with a banshee.
7:00 Bomber 46 vs MajOr 46 Raven for Bomber. Bomber adding 2 barracks. Major loses his banshee to a turret. Widow mine kills a widow mine but a different widow mine dies to a banshee.
8:00 Bomber 58 vs MajOr 58 Stim for Bomber. Major getting another banshee. Both players getting tanks.
9:00 Bomber 61 vs MajOr 62 Bomber has a banshee leftover. +1 attack for Bomber. Two more barracks for Bomber.
10:00 Bomber 77 vs MajOr 76 Major's banshee flies into a viking. Banshee is chased and dies due to a scan.
On August 14 2014 10:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: I'm no TvT specialist, but isn't there any way MajOr could abuse the fact Bomber never scouts ?
Some kind of proxy cheese.
Gas-first proxy Factory->Starport for Marine/Hellion/Medivac elevator right next to his base. Alternatively, gas first proxy Factory/Banshee into 1 base Marine/Tank/Banshee allin.
On August 14 2014 10:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: I'm no TvT specialist, but isn't there any way MajOr could abuse the fact Bomber never scouts ?
Some kind of proxy cheese.
Gas-first proxy Factory->Starport for Marine/Hellion/Medivac elevator right next to his base. Alternatively, gas first proxy Factory/Banshee into 1 base Marine/Tank/Banshee allin.
Thanks guys. I wonder why people don't try that kind of stuff more often against him, he loves money so much he never (am I wrong) scv scouts, at least on 2 players map.
Bomber spawns in the top right Major spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Gas first for Bomber. Barracks for Major. Major getting his own refinery.
3:00 Factory for Bomber. Major scouts. Starport for Bomber.
4:00 Bomber lifting his barracks and factory to wall. Banshee for Bomber, off one gas. CC for Bomber. Major getting a starport.
5:00 Widow mine for Bomber. Cloak banshee for Major. Engineering bay for Bomber.
6:00 Major getting his own CC in his main. Viking for Bomber. Raven for Major. Widow mine nearly gets the banshee. Bomber kiting marines with a banshee.
7:00 Bomber 46 vs MajOr 46 Raven for Bomber. Bomber adding 2 barracks. Major loses his banshee to a turret. Widow mine kills a widow mine but a different widow mine dies to a banshee.
8:00 Bomber 58 vs MajOr 58 Stim for Bomber. Major getting another banshee. Both players getting tanks.
9:00 Bomber 61 vs MajOr 62 Bomber has a banshee leftover. +1 attack for Bomber. Two more barracks for Bomber.
10:00 Bomber 77 vs MajOr 76 Major's banshee flies into a viking. Banshee is chased and dies due to a scan.
11:00 Bomber 92 vs MajOr 91 Combat shields for both players. Major only has 3 barracks. Major going for the space behind the natural of Bomber. Bomber catches the army and sieges up there. Seeker missile cleans up a tank.
12:00 Bomber 119 vs MajOr 106 Bomber slowly forcing a retreat. Major getting +1 attack. Major picks off a medivac.
13:00 Bomber 135 vs MajOr 117 Bomber moves out. Engagement in the center. Seeker missile on a marine which kills a lot of Bomber's army.
14:00 Bomber 139 vs MajOr 113 Major taking his third base. Bomber moving out with a doom drop. Bomber successfully gets into the main.
15:00 Bomber 149 vs MajOr 102 Marines get into the mineral. Tons of workers fall for Major. Major GG's! Bomber wins 2-0!
... MajOr saw the drop, right ? I think he was trying to make Bomber think he didn't know and snipe the army, but he failed hard and he found himself dead before he could even regret his decision.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?
★★★- Good game (2)
40%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
40%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
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Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?
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On August 14 2014 10:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: I'm no TvT specialist, but isn't there any way MajOr could abuse the fact Bomber never scouts ?
Some kind of proxy cheese.
Gas-first proxy Factory->Starport for Marine/Hellion/Medivac elevator right next to his base. Alternatively, gas first proxy Factory/Banshee into 1 base Marine/Tank/Banshee allin.
Thanks guys. I wonder why people don't try that kind of stuff more often against him, he loves money so much he never (am I wrong) scv scouts, at least on 2 players map.
Unless I'm missing sarcasm, probably because it's not a guaranteed thing even with a blind player on the defense. I mean, Bomber ALWAYS gets some combination of Marines/Tanks plus probably a Raven, which so happens to be exactly the composition you need to defend most 1-base cheese play. There are certain ways you can array your forces so that even if a blind attack comes that you don't scout, you're already in a position that enables you to have the best possible chances on the defense.
On August 14 2014 10:27 [PkF] Wire wrote: ... MajOr saw the drop, right ? I think he was trying to make Bomber think he didn't know and snipe the army, but he failed hard and he found himself dead before he could even regret his decision.
Yeah he was trying to bait him in, but Bomber took the bait and then stabbed him with it.
On August 14 2014 10:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: I'm no TvT specialist, but isn't there any way MajOr could abuse the fact Bomber never scouts ?
Some kind of proxy cheese.
Gas-first proxy Factory->Starport for Marine/Hellion/Medivac elevator right next to his base. Alternatively, gas first proxy Factory/Banshee into 1 base Marine/Tank/Banshee allin.
Thanks guys. I wonder why people don't try that kind of stuff more often against him, he loves money so much he never (am I wrong) scv scouts, at least on 2 players map.
Unless I'm missing sarcasm, probably because it's not a guaranteed thing even with a blind player on the defense. I mean, Bomber ALWAYS gets some combination of Marines/Tanks plus probably a Raven, which so happens to be exactly the composition you need to defend most 1-base cheese play. There are certain ways you can array your forces so that even if a blind attack comes that you don't scout, you're already in a position that enables you to have the best possible chances on the defense.
No you're not missing sarcasm man, I really know nothing about TvT. But then isn't there a way people could play really greedy to compensate for Bomber lack of information ? Maybe the problem would be your teching up to raven too slowly in case Bomber goes banshee ?
On August 14 2014 10:30 Ace Frehley wrote: Just noticed this new sponsor for WCS AM, Newegg I don't live in the US, is this company any big, small? (honest question, totally ignorant here)
On August 14 2014 10:30 Ace Frehley wrote: Just noticed this new sponsor for WCS AM, Newegg I don't live in the US, is this company any big, small? (honest question, totally ignorant here)
i dont know about right now but ~5 yrs ago it was a major online electronics retailer
On August 14 2014 10:30 Ace Frehley wrote: Just noticed this new sponsor for WCS AM, Newegg I don't live in the US, is this company any big, small? (honest question, totally ignorant here)
It is one of the larger online computer parts stores in the US and is in Canada so it is a fairly large sponsor.
Slam spawns in the bottom left Major spawns in the bottom right 2:00 Hatchery first for Slam. Major getting a barracks and gas. Slam getting a spawning pool and extractor.
3:00 Reaper for Major. Reaper going the wrong way for Major. Zergling speed and two queens for Slam. Major expanding, gettting a factory and a reactor.
4:00 Reaper goes the wrong way twice before Major realizes he's horizontal. Starport for Major. Refinery for Major. Two hellions on the way.
On August 14 2014 10:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: I'm no TvT specialist, but isn't there any way MajOr could abuse the fact Bomber never scouts ?
Some kind of proxy cheese.
Gas-first proxy Factory->Starport for Marine/Hellion/Medivac elevator right next to his base. Alternatively, gas first proxy Factory/Banshee into 1 base Marine/Tank/Banshee allin.
Thanks guys. I wonder why people don't try that kind of stuff more often against him, he loves money so much he never (am I wrong) scv scouts, at least on 2 players map.
Unless I'm missing sarcasm, probably because it's not a guaranteed thing even with a blind player on the defense. I mean, Bomber ALWAYS gets some combination of Marines/Tanks plus probably a Raven, which so happens to be exactly the composition you need to defend most 1-base cheese play. There are certain ways you can array your forces so that even if a blind attack comes that you don't scout, you're already in a position that enables you to have the best possible chances on the defense.
No you're not missing sarcasm man, I really know nothing about TvT. But then isn't there a way people could play really greedy to compensate for Bomber lack of information ? Maybe the problem would be your teching up to raven too slowly in case Bomber goes banshee ?
Sure, you can go defensive 1-1-1 into 3 CC double E-bay, and just do like Bomber likes to do and smash face with a 14:00 max 2-2 Marine/Tank army. Only problem is if Bomber also does that you then have to out-Bomber Bomber.
I actually liked the way Major approached Game 1 of the series, with Mech versus Bio, but he made some execution errors that allowed Bomber to gain an edge, as well as Bio being REALLY good versus Mech on Sejong with all that airspace and multiple attack angles.
Slam spawns in the bottom left Major spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Hatchery first for Slam. Major getting a barracks and gas. Slam getting a spawning pool and extractor.
3:00 Reaper for Major. Reaper going the wrong way for Major. Zergling speed and two queens for Slam. Major expanding, gettting a factory and a reactor.
4:00 Reaper goes the wrong way twice before Major realizes he's horizontal. Starport for Major. Refinery for Major. Two hellions on the way.
5:00 Barracks lifting off. Major moving out.
6:00 Medivac for Major. Two widow mines on the way. Slam getting a baneling nest and a third base. More hellions for Major.
7:00 Slam 59 vs MajOr 61 Cloaked banshee for Major. Spine crawler for Slam. Slam pushing back hellions with zerglings.
8:00 Slam 71 vs MajOr 68 Widow mines are dropped in the natural of Slam and hellions are attacking the third. Lots of zerglings and some drones fall. Widow mines get a second shot. Spine crawler at the third of Slam. Two armories for Major.
9:00 Slam 65 vs MajOr 64 Two more factories for Major. Major gets 3 hellions and a reaper out of the third of Slam alive. +1/1 for Slam.
10:00 Slam 72 vs MajOr 74 +1 mech weapons for Major. Viking on the way. Viking killing a scouting overlord. Major getting an engineering bay. Spire on the way for Slam. Major going for the main of Slam with 11 hellbats.
On August 14 2014 10:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: I'm no TvT specialist, but isn't there any way MajOr could abuse the fact Bomber never scouts ?
Some kind of proxy cheese.
Gas-first proxy Factory->Starport for Marine/Hellion/Medivac elevator right next to his base. Alternatively, gas first proxy Factory/Banshee into 1 base Marine/Tank/Banshee allin.
Thanks guys. I wonder why people don't try that kind of stuff more often against him, he loves money so much he never (am I wrong) scv scouts, at least on 2 players map.
Unless I'm missing sarcasm, probably because it's not a guaranteed thing even with a blind player on the defense. I mean, Bomber ALWAYS gets some combination of Marines/Tanks plus probably a Raven, which so happens to be exactly the composition you need to defend most 1-base cheese play. There are certain ways you can array your forces so that even if a blind attack comes that you don't scout, you're already in a position that enables you to have the best possible chances on the defense.
No you're not missing sarcasm man, I really know nothing about TvT. But then isn't there a way people could play really greedy to compensate for Bomber lack of information ? Maybe the problem would be your teching up to raven too slowly in case Bomber goes banshee ?
Sure, you can go defensive 1-1-1 into 3 CC double E-bay, and just do like Bomber likes to do and smash face with a 14:00 max 2-2 Marine/Tank army. Only problem is if Bomber also does that you then have to out-Bomber Bomber.
I actually liked the way Major approached Game 1 of the series, with Mech versus Bio, but he made some execution errors that allowed Bomber to gain an edge, as well as Bio being REALLY good versus Mech on Sejong with all that airspace and multiple attack angles.
Ah ah I think I understand, trying to outgreed Bomber would actually take the game in a type of game Bomber enjoys. It's really a win-win scenario for him.
Slam spawns in the bottom left Major spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Hatchery first for Slam. Major getting a barracks and gas. Slam getting a spawning pool and extractor.
3:00 Reaper for Major. Reaper going the wrong way for Major. Zergling speed and two queens for Slam. Major expanding, gettting a factory and a reactor.
4:00 Reaper goes the wrong way twice before Major realizes he's horizontal. Starport for Major. Refinery for Major. Two hellions on the way.
5:00 Barracks lifting off. Major moving out.
6:00 Medivac for Major. Two widow mines on the way. Slam getting a baneling nest and a third base. More hellions for Major.
7:00 Slam 59 vs MajOr 61 Cloaked banshee for Major. Spine crawler for Slam. Slam pushing back hellions with zerglings.
8:00 Slam 71 vs MajOr 68 Widow mines are dropped in the natural of Slam and hellions are attacking the third. Lots of zerglings and some drones fall. Widow mines get a second shot. Spine crawler at the third of Slam. Two armories for Major.
9:00 Slam 65 vs MajOr 64 Two more factories for Major. Major gets 3 hellions and a reaper out of the third of Slam alive. +1/1 for Slam.
10:00 Slam 72 vs MajOr 74 +1 mech weapons for Major. Viking on the way. Viking killing a scouting overlord. Major getting an engineering bay. Spire on the way for Slam. Major going for the main of Slam with 11 hellbats.
12:00 Slam 91 vs MajOr 101 Banelings are in the main and Major kills off most of them before they finish. Hellbats split. Major gets into the main mineral line. Two thors on the way for Major. Major kills the spire and only 4 mutalisks are begun.
13:00 Slam 80 vs MajOr 123 Banelings are picked off by banshees. Mutalisks finally clean up the units of Slam. Major is on three bases and 3 factories and is getting 2 more.
14:00 Slam 93 vs MajOr 126 Major moving out again. Slam GGs! Major takes a 1-0 lead!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
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★★★- Good game (1)
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★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
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★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
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★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
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4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?
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On August 14 2014 10:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: I'm no TvT specialist, but isn't there any way MajOr could abuse the fact Bomber never scouts ?
Some kind of proxy cheese.
Gas-first proxy Factory->Starport for Marine/Hellion/Medivac elevator right next to his base. Alternatively, gas first proxy Factory/Banshee into 1 base Marine/Tank/Banshee allin.
Thanks guys. I wonder why people don't try that kind of stuff more often against him, he loves money so much he never (am I wrong) scv scouts, at least on 2 players map.
Unless I'm missing sarcasm, probably because it's not a guaranteed thing even with a blind player on the defense. I mean, Bomber ALWAYS gets some combination of Marines/Tanks plus probably a Raven, which so happens to be exactly the composition you need to defend most 1-base cheese play. There are certain ways you can array your forces so that even if a blind attack comes that you don't scout, you're already in a position that enables you to have the best possible chances on the defense.
No you're not missing sarcasm man, I really know nothing about TvT. But then isn't there a way people could play really greedy to compensate for Bomber lack of information ? Maybe the problem would be your teching up to raven too slowly in case Bomber goes banshee ?
Sure, you can go defensive 1-1-1 into 3 CC double E-bay, and just do like Bomber likes to do and smash face with a 14:00 max 2-2 Marine/Tank army. Only problem is if Bomber also does that you then have to out-Bomber Bomber.
I actually liked the way Major approached Game 1 of the series, with Mech versus Bio, but he made some execution errors that allowed Bomber to gain an edge, as well as Bio being REALLY good versus Mech on Sejong with all that airspace and multiple attack angles.
Ah ah I think I understand, trying to outgreed Bomber would actually take the game in a type of game Bomber enjoys. It's really a win-win scenario for him.
Precisely. I'm of the school of thought that playing outside your personal style is almost always a bad idea. It's that kind of reflex that causes people to play weird things versus Taeja because Taeja's fucking gosu, and then they die because they aren't playing THEIR kind of game anymore.
On August 14 2014 10:45 Circumstance wrote: Taiwan is good, but they don't know enough about how to handle Terrans.
It's tough when there are like 3-4 good Terrans from CN/TW/SEA.
It's tough when there's literally zero terrans, I'm not even kidding there's been one terran in the last 3 TeSL's and it was some random Korean on wayi spider called Nado. Since ball retired Taiwan terran is dead.
On August 14 2014 10:45 Circumstance wrote: Taiwan is good, but they don't know enough about how to handle Terrans.
It's tough when there are like 3-4 good Terrans from CN/TW/SEA.
It's tough when there's literally zero terrans, I'm not even kidding there's been one terran in the last 3 TeSL's and it was some random Korean on wayi spider called Nado. Since ball retired Taiwan terran is dead.
Slam spawns in the top right Major spawns in the bottom left
1:00 Proxy 2 rax from MajOr. Spawning pool first for Slam.
2:00 Slam getting a hatchery. Major scouting with an SCV.
3:00 Major scouts but loses the scouting SCV. Major pulls SCVs.
4:00 3 marines start attacking the natural hatchery, which finishes. Zerglings on the way. Spine crawler in the main of Slam. Double bunker in the natural of Slam. Drone pull. Marines are kiting zerglings.
5:00 Spine crawler is planted but it dies. Marines are in the bunkers. Slam pulling workers and kills the bunkers but the marines survive. Spine crawler is uprooted.
On August 14 2014 10:45 Circumstance wrote: Taiwan is good, but they don't know enough about how to handle Terrans.
It's tough when there are like 3-4 good Terrans from CN/TW/SEA.
It's tough when there's literally zero terrans, I'm not even kidding there's been one terran in the last 3 TeSL's and it was some random Korean on wayi spider called Nado. Since ball retired Taiwan terran is dead.
Slam spawns in the top right Major spawns in the bottom left
1:00 Proxy 2 rax from MajOr. Spawning pool first for Slam.
2:00 Slam getting a hatchery. Major scouting with an SCV.
3:00 Major scouts but loses the scouting SCV. Major pulls SCVs.
4:00 3 marines start attacking the natural hatchery, which finishes. Zerglings on the way. Spine crawler in the main of Slam. Double bunker in the natural of Slam. Drone pull. Marines are kiting zerglings.
5:00 Spine crawler is planted but it dies. Marines are in the bunkers. Slam pulling workers and kills the bunkers but the marines survive. Spine crawler is uprooted.
6:00 Slam pulling the rest of his workers. Major kills the spine crawler and the workers and Slam GG's! Major wins 2-0!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
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★★★- Good game (0)
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5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
★★★- Good game (3)
60%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
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5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Incredible marine control there. So many of them were in the red, but MajOr's control was immaculate. Very Korean series from MajOr, both in build orders and execution.
On August 14 2014 10:53 Dwayn wrote: 2 rax just never fails
This. In pro games it seems like it fails 1 time out of 10. I wonder why terran players don't do it more often, until they force zerg players to open with pool every single game (and even then...)
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★★★- Good game (0)
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5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
★★★- Good game (3)
60%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
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5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 14 2014 10:53 Dwayn wrote: 2 rax just never fails
This. In pro games it seems like it fails 1 time out of 10. I wonder why terran players don't do it more often, until they force zerg players to open with pool every single game (and even then...)
Because they inevitably compare themselves to Mvp and find themselves lacking.
On August 14 2014 10:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: Terrans scored a 7/8 in this ro32, 5 of them even topping their group. They have always done well in this region, but this is impressive anyway.
Yup. And they are doing well in Korea. The Times They Are a-Changin'.
On August 14 2014 10:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: Terrans scored a 7/8 in this ro32, 5 of them even topping their group. They have always done well in this region, but this is impressive anyway.
This is actually the first premier tournament in 2014 where Terran is the most represented race in the Ro16.
On August 14 2014 10:56 vult wrote: Calling right now, there will be a group with JD, Polt, and Bomber.
Ro16 rules prevent any 2 players who advanced from the same group to meet again in the next group.
Polt, Bomber, TaeJa, Scarlett group pls
The fanboy tears would flow. And the next group would probably be iaguz, Neeb, HuK and Check, and people would bitterly lament about how uneven the groups are.
On August 14 2014 10:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: Terrans scored a 7/8 in this ro32, 5 of them even topping their group. They have always done well in this region, but this is impressive anyway.
Yup. And they are doing well in Korea. The Times They Are a-Changin'.
The other races will adapt. I'm not worried at all, in fact the game is in a great state. Can't remember one game since the widow mine buff / time warp nerf where I thought "God, if this/that wasn't in the game, no way this player wins against this player". I hope this meta and balance state will be given some time to grow and evolve.
On August 14 2014 10:56 vult wrote: Calling right now, there will be a group with JD, Polt, and Bomber.
Ro16 rules prevent any 2 players who advanced from the same group to meet again in the next group.
Polt, Bomber, TaeJa, Scarlett group pls
The fanboy tears would flow. And the next group would probably be iaguz, Neeb, HuK and Check, and people would bitterly lament about how uneven the groups are.
And then we have 4 terrans advance, and then the RO4 is all terran.
On August 14 2014 10:56 vult wrote: Calling right now, there will be a group with JD, Polt, and Bomber.
Ro16 rules prevent any 2 players who advanced from the same group to meet again in the next group.
Polt, Bomber, TaeJa, Scarlett group pls
The fanboy tears would flow. And the next group would probably be iaguz, Neeb, HuK and Check, and people would bitterly lament about how uneven the groups are.
And then we have 4 terrans advance, and then the RO4 is all terran.
-Everyone who went 2-0 is seeded and put into the hat.
viOLet is seeded into Group A. iaguz is seeded into group A. HyuN is seeded into Group B. TaeJa is seeded into Group B. Check is seeded into Group C. Bomber is seeded into Group C. Polt is seeded into group D. Heart is seeded into group D.
-Everyone who went 2-0 is seeded and put into the hat.
viOLet is seeded into Group A. iaguz is seeded into group A. HyuN is seeded into Group B. TaeJa is seeded into Group B. Check is seeded into Group C. Bomber is seeded into Group C. Polt is seeded into group D. Heart is seeded into group D.
Now the second place finishers are seeded into the groups.
-Everyone who went 2-0 is seeded and put into the hat.
viOLet is seeded into Group A. iaguz is seeded into group A. HyuN is seeded into Group B. TaeJa is seeded into Group B. Check is seeded into Group C. Bomber is seeded into Group C. Polt is seeded into group D. Heart is seeded into group D.
Now the second place finishers are seeded into the groups.
Scarlett is seeded into Group A. HerO is seeded into Group A.
-Everyone who went 2-0 is seeded and put into the hat.
viOLet is seeded into Group A. iaguz is seeded into group A. HyuN is seeded into Group B. TaeJa is seeded into Group B. Check is seeded into Group C. Bomber is seeded into Group C. Polt is seeded into group D. Heart is seeded into group D.
Now the second place finishers are seeded into the groups.
Scarlett is seeded into Group A. HerO is seeded into Group A.
Jaedong is seeded into Group B. Pigbaby is seeded into Group B.
On August 14 2014 11:22 mikumegurine wrote: the draw could be rigged, all the cards seems like they are never mixed, so he could simply be drawing in order
anything could be rigged. all the matches could be fixed. nathanias could actually be a lizard man
-Everyone who went 2-0 is seeded and put into the hat.
viOLet is seeded into Group A. iaguz is seeded into group A. HyuN is seeded into Group B. TaeJa is seeded into Group B. Check is seeded into Group C. Bomber is seeded into Group C. Polt is seeded into group D. Heart is seeded into group D.
Now the second place finishers are seeded into the groups.
Scarlett is seeded into Group A. HerO is seeded into Group A.
Jaedong is seeded into Group B. Pigbaby is seeded into Group B.
Jim is seeded into Group C. HuK is seeded into Group C.
This group all depends on which Jaedong shows up that day. If it's "looking like God until the finals" Jaedong, then he's getting out, if not, it'll be Taeja and Pigbaby.
-Everyone who went 2-0 is seeded and put into the hat.
viOLet is seeded into Group A. iaguz is seeded into group A. HyuN is seeded into Group B. TaeJa is seeded into Group B. Check is seeded into Group C. Bomber is seeded into Group C. Polt is seeded into group D. Heart is seeded into group D.
Now the second place finishers are seeded into the groups.
Scarlett is seeded into Group A. HerO is seeded into Group A.
Jaedong is seeded into Group B. Pigbaby is seeded into Group B.
Jim is seeded into Group C. HuK is seeded into Group C.
(Vote): Group A: viOLet, Scarlett, Iaguz, HerO (Vote): Group B: HyuN, Jaedong, TaeJa, Pigbaby (Vote): Group C: Check, Jim, Bomber, HuK (Vote): Group D: Polt, Neeb, Heart, MajOr (Vote): All of the groups are equally difficult.
On August 14 2014 11:25 Packawana wrote: This group all depends on which Jaedong shows up that day. If it's "looking like God until the finals" Jaedong, then he's getting out, if not, it'll be Taeja and Pigbaby.
The full KR group and the full T group are definitely the more interesting. Group A and C seem a bit less strong, but I'm very happy with the drawings overall, we'll have some exciting games for sure.
Scarlett/HerO or Scarlett/viOlet Jaedong/TaeJa Bomber/Jim Some random two Terrans, Polt/Heart, let's go with Koreans.
On the other hand, this Ro8 have big chance to have 0 Protosses if Check doesn't mess up and HerO will blow in PvZ. And Pigbaby will either win whole season again to show power of KeSPA or just crash.
(Vote): Group A: viOLet, Scarlett, Iaguz, HerO (Vote): Group B: HyuN, Jaedong, TaeJa, Pigbaby (Vote): Group C: Check, Jim, Bomber, HuK (Vote): Group D: Polt, Neeb, Heart, MajOr (Vote): All of the groups are equally difficult.
I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
On August 14 2014 11:30 asongdotnet wrote: Will anyone else be going to the Ro16 in Burbank? Sept 2/3 and Sept 9/10 for A/B and C/D
If that's actually the schedule, I'll do the best I can to head back. I got hooked after showing up for Observer Weekend.
I believe Rotti said that group of Terrans was September 10th... and judging by how they went last season (Tues/Wed) I think it's safe to assume those will be the dates for the Ro16
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
Agreed. A lot of interesting stuff was potentially lost here. But they would have to make all the players fly in early or they would not let the players have enough practice time.
On August 14 2014 11:32 mikumegurine wrote: going to be an all korean top 8 again? or something different this time
Well, we have much better chances than last season with twice as many nonkoreans at this stage in the tournament. I think we have pretty good chances of getting at least one foreigner.
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
They are entertaining, but they don't really work for WCS America since everyone is all over the world.
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
Agreed. A lot of interesting stuff was potentially lost here. But they would have to make all the players fly in early or they would not let the players have enough practice time.
On August 14 2014 11:32 mikumegurine wrote: going to be an all korean top 8 again? or something different this time
Well, we have much better chances than last season with twice as many nonkoreans at this stage in the tournament. I think we have pretty good chances of getting at least one foreigner.
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
They are entertaining, but they don't really work for WCS America since everyone is all over the world.
Probably could of just Skyped or IM or something. The GSL has no excuse though, bring back the group selections. Why were they replaced with random draws anyways.
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
Agreed. A lot of interesting stuff was potentially lost here. But they would have to make all the players fly in early or they would not let the players have enough practice time.
On August 14 2014 11:32 mikumegurine wrote: going to be an all korean top 8 again? or something different this time
Well, we have much better chances than last season with twice as many nonkoreans at this stage in the tournament. I think we have pretty good chances of getting at least one foreigner.
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
They are entertaining, but they don't really work for WCS America since everyone is all over the world.
Probably could of just Skyped or IM or something. The GSL has no excuse though, bring back the group selections. Why were they replaced with random draws anyways.
I guess it's because the players don't want to bother with that anymore Maybe something to do with Kespa having the vast majority of players in Code S, compared to before? I don't even remember the last time it was done...
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
Agreed. A lot of interesting stuff was potentially lost here. But they would have to make all the players fly in early or they would not let the players have enough practice time.
On August 14 2014 11:32 mikumegurine wrote: going to be an all korean top 8 again? or something different this time
Well, we have much better chances than last season with twice as many nonkoreans at this stage in the tournament. I think we have pretty good chances of getting at least one foreigner.
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
They are entertaining, but they don't really work for WCS America since everyone is all over the world.
Probably could of just Skyped or IM or something. The GSL has no excuse though, bring back the group selections. Why were they replaced with random draws anyways.
The GSL cancelled group selections because Mr. Chae thought that letting PartinG cause all the fan favourites to commit mutual suicide was a bad idea. I agree with you that from a viewer perspective tey are overwhelmingly superior. As to WCS America, I just don't think its feasible. With all the different time zones and the difficulty in arranging so many connections without technological problems. I honestly don't think the banter and the fun would be there through Skype. You really need everyone in one room, which WCS America cannot do.
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
Agreed. A lot of interesting stuff was potentially lost here. But they would have to make all the players fly in early or they would not let the players have enough practice time.
On August 14 2014 11:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2014 11:32 mikumegurine wrote: going to be an all korean top 8 again? or something different this time
Well, we have much better chances than last season with twice as many nonkoreans at this stage in the tournament. I think we have pretty good chances of getting at least one foreigner.
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
They are entertaining, but they don't really work for WCS America since everyone is all over the world.
Probably could of just Skyped or IM or something. The GSL has no excuse though, bring back the group selections. Why were they replaced with random draws anyways.
I guess it's because the players don't want to bother with that anymore Maybe something to do with Kespa having the vast majority of players in Code S, compared to before? I don't even remember the last time it was done...
But that doesn't make sense really, group selections existed since BW and has been a staple.
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
Agreed. A lot of interesting stuff was potentially lost here. But they would have to make all the players fly in early or they would not let the players have enough practice time.
On August 14 2014 11:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2014 11:32 mikumegurine wrote: going to be an all korean top 8 again? or something different this time
Well, we have much better chances than last season with twice as many nonkoreans at this stage in the tournament. I think we have pretty good chances of getting at least one foreigner.
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
They are entertaining, but they don't really work for WCS America since everyone is all over the world.
Probably could of just Skyped or IM or something. The GSL has no excuse though, bring back the group selections. Why were they replaced with random draws anyways.
The GSL cancelled group selections because Mr. Chae thought that letting PartinG cause all the fan favourites to commit mutual suicide was a bad idea. I agree with you that from a viewer perspective tey are overwhelmingly superior. As to WCS America, I just don't think its feasible. With all the different time zones and the difficulty in arranging so many connections without technological problems. I honestly don't think the banter and the fun would be there through Skype. You really need everyone in one room, which WCS America cannot do.
That's kind of a ridiculous reason for no group selections in the GSL if true lol
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
Agreed. A lot of interesting stuff was potentially lost here. But they would have to make all the players fly in early or they would not let the players have enough practice time.
On August 14 2014 11:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2014 11:32 mikumegurine wrote: going to be an all korean top 8 again? or something different this time
Well, we have much better chances than last season with twice as many nonkoreans at this stage in the tournament. I think we have pretty good chances of getting at least one foreigner.
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
They are entertaining, but they don't really work for WCS America since everyone is all over the world.
Probably could of just Skyped or IM or something. The GSL has no excuse though, bring back the group selections. Why were they replaced with random draws anyways.
I guess it's because the players don't want to bother with that anymore Maybe something to do with Kespa having the vast majority of players in Code S, compared to before? I don't even remember the last time it was done...
But that doesn't make sense really, group selections existed since BW and has been a staple.
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
Agreed. A lot of interesting stuff was potentially lost here. But they would have to make all the players fly in early or they would not let the players have enough practice time.
On August 14 2014 11:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2014 11:32 mikumegurine wrote: going to be an all korean top 8 again? or something different this time
Well, we have much better chances than last season with twice as many nonkoreans at this stage in the tournament. I think we have pretty good chances of getting at least one foreigner.
On August 14 2014 11:32 Thrillz wrote: I'd rather just have group selections. At least the players have some control over it, and makes some interesting callouts, and if there's a group of death it's at least some of their own making.
They are entertaining, but they don't really work for WCS America since everyone is all over the world.
Probably could of just Skyped or IM or something. The GSL has no excuse though, bring back the group selections. Why were they replaced with random draws anyways.
The GSL cancelled group selections because Mr. Chae thought that letting PartinG cause all the fan favourites to commit mutual suicide was a bad idea. I agree with you that from a viewer perspective tey are overwhelmingly superior. As to WCS America, I just don't think its feasible. With all the different time zones and the difficulty in arranging so many connections without technological problems. I honestly don't think the banter and the fun would be there through Skype. You really need everyone in one room, which WCS America cannot do.
That's kind of a ridiculous reason for no group selections in the GSL if true lol
Pretty sure group selections are back this season actually.
I don't know how he does it but huk always has amazing group luck drawing the easiest group again. The guy is blessed somehow. His nickname of Luk is well deserved.
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