• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 03:55
CET 09:55
KST 17:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1833
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs?
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Urbania on Rent in Delhi Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
Innova Crysta on Hire
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1387 users

[WCS AM] Premier Ro32 Group H Season 3 2014 - Page 33

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 31 32 33 34 35 40 Next All
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
August 14 2014 01:45 GMT
#641
Taiwan is good, but they don't know enough about how to handle Terrans.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 14 2014 01:46 GMT
#642
Nevermind just tuned in and see that Slam is down. Maybe Major's mech too strong.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
August 14 2014 01:46 GMT
#643
On August 14 2014 10:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:37 Jazzman88 wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:30 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:28 Jazzman88 wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:22 Jazzman88 wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'm no TvT specialist, but isn't there any way MajOr could abuse the fact Bomber never scouts ?

Some kind of proxy cheese.


Gas-first proxy Factory->Starport for Marine/Hellion/Medivac elevator right next to his base. Alternatively, gas first proxy Factory/Banshee into 1 base Marine/Tank/Banshee allin.


Thanks guys. I wonder why people don't try that kind of stuff more often against him, he loves money so much he never (am I wrong) scv scouts, at least on 2 players map.


Unless I'm missing sarcasm, probably because it's not a guaranteed thing even with a blind player on the defense. I mean, Bomber ALWAYS gets some combination of Marines/Tanks plus probably a Raven, which so happens to be exactly the composition you need to defend most 1-base cheese play. There are certain ways you can array your forces so that even if a blind attack comes that you don't scout, you're already in a position that enables you to have the best possible chances on the defense.


No you're not missing sarcasm man, I really know nothing about TvT. But then isn't there a way people could play really greedy to compensate for Bomber lack of information ? Maybe the problem would be your teching up to raven too slowly in case Bomber goes banshee ?


Sure, you can go defensive 1-1-1 into 3 CC double E-bay, and just do like Bomber likes to do and smash face with a 14:00 max 2-2 Marine/Tank army. Only problem is if Bomber also does that you then have to out-Bomber Bomber.

I actually liked the way Major approached Game 1 of the series, with Mech versus Bio, but he made some execution errors that allowed Bomber to gain an edge, as well as Bio being REALLY good versus Mech on Sejong with all that airspace and multiple attack angles.


Ah ah I think I understand, trying to outgreed Bomber would actually take the game in a type of game Bomber enjoys. It's really a win-win scenario for him.


Precisely. I'm of the school of thought that playing outside your personal style is almost always a bad idea. It's that kind of reflex that causes people to play weird things versus Taeja because Taeja's fucking gosu, and then they die because they aren't playing THEIR kind of game anymore.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 14 2014 01:47 GMT
#644
On August 14 2014 10:45 Circumstance wrote:
Taiwan is good, but they don't know enough about how to handle Terrans.


It's tough when there are like 3-4 good Terrans from CN/TW/SEA.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 14 2014 01:48 GMT
#645
[image loading]

[image loading]
[image loading][image loading][image loading]
(Z)Slam              (T)MajOr

Score
0-1


Map: Overgrowth

Slam spawns in the top right
Major spawns in the bottom left
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 14 2014 01:48 GMT
#646
On August 14 2014 10:47 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:45 Circumstance wrote:
Taiwan is good, but they don't know enough about how to handle Terrans.


It's tough when there are like 3-4 good Terrans from CN/TW/SEA.

are there even that many?
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 01:49:55
August 14 2014 01:49 GMT
#647
On August 14 2014 10:47 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:45 Circumstance wrote:
Taiwan is good, but they don't know enough about how to handle Terrans.


It's tough when there are like 3-4 good Terrans from CN/TW/SEA.

It's tough when there's literally zero terrans, I'm not even kidding there's been one terran in the last 3 TeSL's and it was some random Korean on wayi spider called Nado. Since ball retired Taiwan terran is dead.

On August 14 2014 10:48 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:47 vult wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:45 Circumstance wrote:
Taiwan is good, but they don't know enough about how to handle Terrans.


It's tough when there are like 3-4 good Terrans from CN/TW/SEA.

are there even that many?

XY/Iaguz and uuuuh
Glorious SEA doto
resfirestar
Profile Joined January 2012
United States109 Posts
August 14 2014 01:51 GMT
#648
Unfortunate opening for Major
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 14 2014 01:51 GMT
#649
On August 14 2014 10:48 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:47 vult wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:45 Circumstance wrote:
Taiwan is good, but they don't know enough about how to handle Terrans.


It's tough when there are like 3-4 good Terrans from CN/TW/SEA.

are there even that many?


Haha I was being generous. Glad you caught on.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
August 14 2014 01:52 GMT
#650
On August 14 2014 10:49 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:47 vult wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:45 Circumstance wrote:
Taiwan is good, but they don't know enough about how to handle Terrans.


It's tough when there are like 3-4 good Terrans from CN/TW/SEA.

It's tough when there's literally zero terrans, I'm not even kidding there's been one terran in the last 3 TeSL's and it was some random Korean on wayi spider called Nado. Since ball retired Taiwan terran is dead.

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:48 Shellshock wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:47 vult wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:45 Circumstance wrote:
Taiwan is good, but they don't know enough about how to handle Terrans.


It's tough when there are like 3-4 good Terrans from CN/TW/SEA.

are there even that many?

XY/Iaguz and uuuuh


That "some random Korean" knocked Maru out of the Taiwan Open qualifiers and showed AWESOME games in the WCS AM wildcard.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 14 2014 01:52 GMT
#651
On August 14 2014 10:48 The_Templar wrote:
[image loading]

[image loading]
[image loading][image loading][image loading]
(Z)Slam              (T)MajOr

Score
0-1


Map: Overgrowth

Slam spawns in the top right
Major spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Proxy 2 rax from MajOr.
Spawning pool first for Slam.

2:00
Slam getting a hatchery.
Major scouting with an SCV.

3:00
Major scouts but loses the scouting SCV.
Major pulls SCVs.

4:00
3 marines start attacking the natural hatchery, which finishes.
Zerglings on the way.
Spine crawler in the main of Slam.
Double bunker in the natural of Slam.
Drone pull.
Marines are kiting zerglings.

5:00
Spine crawler is planted but it dies.
Marines are in the bunkers.
Slam pulling workers and kills the bunkers but the marines survive.
Spine crawler is uprooted.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 14 2014 01:52 GMT
#652
On August 14 2014 10:49 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:47 vult wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:45 Circumstance wrote:
Taiwan is good, but they don't know enough about how to handle Terrans.


It's tough when there are like 3-4 good Terrans from CN/TW/SEA.

It's tough when there's literally zero terrans, I'm not even kidding there's been one terran in the last 3 TeSL's and it was some random Korean on wayi spider called Nado. Since ball retired Taiwan terran is dead.

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:48 Shellshock wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:47 vult wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:45 Circumstance wrote:
Taiwan is good, but they don't know enough about how to handle Terrans.


It's tough when there are like 3-4 good Terrans from CN/TW/SEA.

are there even that many?

XY/Iaguz and uuuuh


#BringBackLoner!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 14 2014 01:53 GMT
#653
On August 14 2014 10:52 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:48 The_Templar wrote:
[image loading]

[image loading]
[image loading][image loading][image loading]
(Z)Slam              (T)MajOr

Score
0-1


Map: Overgrowth

Slam spawns in the top right
Major spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Proxy 2 rax from MajOr.
Spawning pool first for Slam.

2:00
Slam getting a hatchery.
Major scouting with an SCV.

3:00
Major scouts but loses the scouting SCV.
Major pulls SCVs.

4:00
3 marines start attacking the natural hatchery, which finishes.
Zerglings on the way.
Spine crawler in the main of Slam.
Double bunker in the natural of Slam.
Drone pull.
Marines are kiting zerglings.

5:00
Spine crawler is planted but it dies.
Marines are in the bunkers.
Slam pulling workers and kills the bunkers but the marines survive.
Spine crawler is uprooted.

6:00
Slam pulling the rest of his workers.
Major kills the spine crawler and the workers and Slam GG's!
Major wins 2-0!
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
August 14 2014 01:53 GMT
#654
What a finisher!

Now onto the Group Drawing! :D
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
August 14 2014 01:53 GMT
#655
2 rax just never fails
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
August 14 2014 01:53 GMT
#656
Awesome series by Major.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 14 2014 01:53 GMT
#657
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
 
40%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
 
40%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
20%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (0)
 
0%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?

★★★- Good game (3)
 
60%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
20%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
20%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 14 2014 01:53 GMT
#658
Congrats Major, Slam played some cool games, hoping to see him in the future!
Moderatorlickypiddy
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
August 14 2014 01:53 GMT
#659
Major that was gorgeous. You should stream tonight ^_^;
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 14 2014 01:53 GMT
#660
Haha game two is over!? That was QUICK.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Prev 1 31 32 33 34 35 40 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 6m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 2
StarCraft: Brood War
actioN 575
Zeus 291
Larva 269
BeSt 216
Soma 172
Bale 119
Leta 110
Sharp 100
Shuttle 99
EffOrt 74
[ Show more ]
ZergMaN 49
Mong 35
JulyZerg 33
Light 21
NotJumperer 18
Rush 18
GoRush 18
Sacsri 15
sorry 7
yabsab 5
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm57
League of Legends
C9.Mang0491
JimRising 477
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss477
Other Games
summit1g3854
ceh9451
Happy250
Livibee91
Mew2King80
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1380
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 58
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 21
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV265
League of Legends
• Stunt1006
• Jankos951
• Lourlo868
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 6m
SKillous vs ArT
ArT vs Babymarine
NightMare vs TriGGeR
YoungYakov vs TBD
All-Star Invitational
17h 21m
INnoVation vs soO
Serral vs herO
Cure vs Solar
sOs vs Scarlett
Classic vs Clem
Reynor vs Maru
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 3h
AI Arena Tournament
1d 11h
All-Star Invitational
1d 17h
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-14
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.