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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 14 2014 01:15 GMT
#601
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(T)Bomber              (T)MajOr

Score
1-0


Map: Overgrowth

Bomber spawns in the top right
Major spawns in the bottom left
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 14 2014 01:18 GMT
#602
I'm no TvT specialist, but isn't there any way MajOr could abuse the fact Bomber never scouts ?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 14 2014 01:18 GMT
#603
On August 14 2014 10:15 The_Templar wrote:
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[image loading]
[image loading][image loading][image loading]
(T)Bomber              (T)MajOr

Score
1-0


Map: Overgrowth

Bomber spawns in the top right
Major spawns in the bottom left

2:00
Gas first for Bomber.
Barracks for Major.
Major getting his own refinery.

3:00
Factory for Bomber.
Major scouts.
Starport for Bomber.

4:00
Bomber lifting his barracks and factory to wall.
Banshee for Bomber, off one gas.
CC for Bomber.
Major getting a starport.

5:00
Widow mine for Bomber.
Cloak banshee for Major.
Engineering bay for Bomber.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
August 14 2014 01:19 GMT
#604
On August 14 2014 10:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'm no TvT specialist, but isn't there any way MajOr could abuse the fact Bomber never scouts ?

Some kind of proxy cheese.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
August 14 2014 01:20 GMT
#605
Well, you don't see that in every TvT.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
August 14 2014 01:21 GMT
#606
On August 14 2014 10:20 Circumstance wrote:
Well, you don't see that in every TvT.

Like seeing Swarm Hosts kill Swarm Hosts.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 14 2014 01:22 GMT
#607
On August 14 2014 10:18 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:15 The_Templar wrote:
[image loading]

[image loading]
[image loading][image loading][image loading]
(T)Bomber              (T)MajOr

Score
1-0


Map: Overgrowth

Bomber spawns in the top right
Major spawns in the bottom left

2:00
Gas first for Bomber.
Barracks for Major.
Major getting his own refinery.

3:00
Factory for Bomber.
Major scouts.
Starport for Bomber.

4:00
Bomber lifting his barracks and factory to wall.
Banshee for Bomber, off one gas.
CC for Bomber.
Major getting a starport.

5:00
Widow mine for Bomber.
Cloak banshee for Major.
Engineering bay for Bomber.

6:00
Major getting his own CC in his main.
Viking for Bomber.
Raven for Major.
Widow mine nearly gets the banshee.
Bomber kiting marines with a banshee.

7:00 (T)Bomber 46 vs (T)MajOr 46
Raven for Bomber.
Bomber adding 2 barracks.
Major loses his banshee to a turret.
Widow mine kills a widow mine but a different widow mine dies to a banshee.

8:00 (T)Bomber 58 vs (T)MajOr 58
Stim for Bomber.
Major getting another banshee.
Both players getting tanks.

9:00 (T)Bomber 61 vs (T)MajOr 62
Bomber has a banshee leftover.
+1 attack for Bomber.
Two more barracks for Bomber.

10:00 (T)Bomber 77 vs (T)MajOr 76
Major's banshee flies into a viking.
Banshee is chased and dies due to a scan.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
August 14 2014 01:22 GMT
#608
On August 14 2014 10:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'm no TvT specialist, but isn't there any way MajOr could abuse the fact Bomber never scouts ?

Some kind of proxy cheese.


Gas-first proxy Factory->Starport for Marine/Hellion/Medivac elevator right next to his base. Alternatively, gas first proxy Factory/Banshee into 1 base Marine/Tank/Banshee allin.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 14 2014 01:22 GMT
#609
On August 14 2014 10:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'm no TvT specialist, but isn't there any way MajOr could abuse the fact Bomber never scouts ?

Some kind of proxy cheese.


thanks inno
Moderator
resfirestar
Profile Joined January 2012
United States109 Posts
August 14 2014 01:23 GMT
#610
I guess one way to criticize Bomber's play is all the marines he runs into tank fire.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 14 2014 01:24 GMT
#611
On August 14 2014 10:22 Jazzman88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'm no TvT specialist, but isn't there any way MajOr could abuse the fact Bomber never scouts ?

Some kind of proxy cheese.


Gas-first proxy Factory->Starport for Marine/Hellion/Medivac elevator right next to his base. Alternatively, gas first proxy Factory/Banshee into 1 base Marine/Tank/Banshee allin.


Thanks guys. I wonder why people don't try that kind of stuff more often against him, he loves money so much he never (am I wrong) scv scouts, at least on 2 players map.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 14 2014 01:26 GMT
#612
On August 14 2014 10:22 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:18 The_Templar wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:15 The_Templar wrote:
[image loading]

[image loading]
[image loading][image loading][image loading]
(T)Bomber              (T)MajOr

Score
1-0


Map: Overgrowth

Bomber spawns in the top right
Major spawns in the bottom left

2:00
Gas first for Bomber.
Barracks for Major.
Major getting his own refinery.

3:00
Factory for Bomber.
Major scouts.
Starport for Bomber.

4:00
Bomber lifting his barracks and factory to wall.
Banshee for Bomber, off one gas.
CC for Bomber.
Major getting a starport.

5:00
Widow mine for Bomber.
Cloak banshee for Major.
Engineering bay for Bomber.

6:00
Major getting his own CC in his main.
Viking for Bomber.
Raven for Major.
Widow mine nearly gets the banshee.
Bomber kiting marines with a banshee.

7:00 (T)Bomber 46 vs (T)MajOr 46
Raven for Bomber.
Bomber adding 2 barracks.
Major loses his banshee to a turret.
Widow mine kills a widow mine but a different widow mine dies to a banshee.

8:00 (T)Bomber 58 vs (T)MajOr 58
Stim for Bomber.
Major getting another banshee.
Both players getting tanks.

9:00 (T)Bomber 61 vs (T)MajOr 62
Bomber has a banshee leftover.
+1 attack for Bomber.
Two more barracks for Bomber.

10:00 (T)Bomber 77 vs (T)MajOr 76
Major's banshee flies into a viking.
Banshee is chased and dies due to a scan.

11:00 (T)Bomber 92 vs (T)MajOr 91
Combat shields for both players.
Major only has 3 barracks.
Major going for the space behind the natural of Bomber.
Bomber catches the army and sieges up there.
Seeker missile cleans up a tank.

12:00 (T)Bomber 119 vs (T)MajOr 106
Bomber slowly forcing a retreat.
Major getting +1 attack.
Major picks off a medivac.

13:00 (T)Bomber 135 vs (T)MajOr 117
Bomber moves out.
Engagement in the center.
Seeker missile on a marine which kills a lot of Bomber's army.

14:00 (T)Bomber 139 vs (T)MajOr 113
Major taking his third base.
Bomber moving out with a doom drop.
Bomber successfully gets into the main.

15:00 (T)Bomber 149 vs (T)MajOr 102
Marines get into the mineral.
Tons of workers fall for Major.
Major GG's!
Bomber wins 2-0!
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 14 2014 01:26 GMT
#613
yes bummer victory
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 14 2014 01:26 GMT
#614
this was a pretty one sided tvt. bomber macro too gosu
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
August 14 2014 01:26 GMT
#615
Wp bomber !
That was 2 good games
ForGG. 29/11/2014
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 14 2014 01:27 GMT
#616
... MajOr saw the drop, right ? I think he was trying to make Bomber think he didn't know and snipe the army, but he failed hard and he found himself dead before he could even regret his decision.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 14 2014 01:27 GMT
#617
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?

★★★- Good game (4)
 
67%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
33%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?

★★★- Good game (2)
 
40%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
40%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
20%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
August 14 2014 01:27 GMT
#618
Major went full foreigner. He sees the drop coming, but he doesn't deal with it.
Don't mind me
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 14 2014 01:28 GMT
#619
On August 14 2014 10:26 Faefae wrote:
Wp bomber !
That was 2 good games


Bomber definitely showed some good TvT but overall I'm a bit disappointed with the series, there was no suspense at all.
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
August 14 2014 01:28 GMT
#620
On August 14 2014 10:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 10:22 Jazzman88 wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 14 2014 10:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'm no TvT specialist, but isn't there any way MajOr could abuse the fact Bomber never scouts ?

Some kind of proxy cheese.


Gas-first proxy Factory->Starport for Marine/Hellion/Medivac elevator right next to his base. Alternatively, gas first proxy Factory/Banshee into 1 base Marine/Tank/Banshee allin.


Thanks guys. I wonder why people don't try that kind of stuff more often against him, he loves money so much he never (am I wrong) scv scouts, at least on 2 players map.


Unless I'm missing sarcasm, probably because it's not a guaranteed thing even with a blind player on the defense. I mean, Bomber ALWAYS gets some combination of Marines/Tanks plus probably a Raven, which so happens to be exactly the composition you need to defend most 1-base cheese play. There are certain ways you can array your forces so that even if a blind attack comes that you don't scout, you're already in a position that enables you to have the best possible chances on the defense.
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