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[SPL] SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster - 2014 Final - Page 17

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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 00:08:37
August 06 2014 00:03 GMT
#321
On August 06 2014 09:01 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 08:28 Crot4le wrote:
On August 06 2014 08:25 SniXSniPe wrote:
I hope KT smashes SKT since SKT isn't playing Fantasy


You can see why though, I do think that Dark is a little stronger than Fantasy.


fuk dat

SKT has Parting, Rain, Classic, Soo, Soulkey--- that's such a ridiculous line up. Three previous GSL champions, and two 2nd place finishers.


Fantasy should have been played for the fans


As you should know (if you watched BW which I'm assuming given that you're a Fantasy fan), you don't field a player for the fans in a Bo1 finals. Every map is crucial, giving one away as fan service won't fly. Imagine if SKT had fielded Paralyze instead of Sun in the '11-12 finals because people liked his hair more?
AdministratorBreak the chains
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 00:44:34
August 06 2014 00:44 GMT
#322
fantasy is undefeated all time in proleague grand finals though

beat the shit out of top tier players too (jaedong x2, flash, hoejja)

a little bit of a different case than paralyze vs sun or canata doing the worst cheese on heartbreak ridge. But i mean skt fielding all code s players so their upcoming 7-0 win is understandable.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19223 Posts
August 06 2014 00:52 GMT
#323
KT fans are still here?
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12081 Posts
August 06 2014 00:54 GMT
#324
SKT1 goes 4-1. Parting will murder Flash, and Zest will be the one scoring for KT. I'm pretty sure you didn't hear it here first =)
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19223 Posts
August 06 2014 01:00 GMT
#325
On August 06 2014 09:54 Nebuchad wrote:
SKT1 goes 4-1. Parting will murder Flash, and Zest will be the one scoring for KT. I'm pretty sure you didn't hear it here first =)

Flash's post match face?
[image loading]
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 06 2014 01:04 GMT
#326
On August 06 2014 09:52 BisuDagger wrote:
KT fans are still here?

We were busy being passionate
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
August 06 2014 01:04 GMT
#327
KT's got this.

Every SKT/KT final I would look at the line-ups and think SKT would crush, but KT somehow pulls some epic clutch shit and squeeze out a win.

So this year, my prediction is that KT's GOT THIS YO!!!!!!
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
August 06 2014 01:31 GMT
#328
SKT best KT GOGOGO
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 06 2014 01:33 GMT
#329
SKT fans actually showed up
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
August 06 2014 01:33 GMT
#330
On August 06 2014 10:33 GumBa wrote:
SKT fans actually showed up


They won't want to after Saturday.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 06 2014 01:34 GMT
#331
On August 06 2014 10:33 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 10:33 GumBa wrote:
SKT fans actually showed up


They won't want to after Saturday.

Word
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
August 06 2014 01:45 GMT
#332
Disappointed they're playing Sleep instead of Hitmotherfuckingman .
"Start yo" -FlaSh
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
August 06 2014 04:38 GMT
#333
On August 06 2014 00:24 quien wrote:
[image loading]

GO KT!


By.Sun?
More like by.gone
can i get my estro logo back pls
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 04:45:02
August 06 2014 04:44 GMT
#334
Might watch this to see what changes SCII went in the last year lol. KT fighting! ^^
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
August 06 2014 04:54 GMT
#335
Only two Terran and from KT? GO GO GO KT
@taefoxy
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
August 06 2014 05:12 GMT
#336
<3 Flash but he has no chance against PartinG right now.

Rain vs Zest and TY vs Classic are pretty much guaranteed to be the most entertaining games of the night, unless Soulkey decides to pull out some aggressive SH into lose strats again. I vaguely recall that being fun once upon a time.

I'd be a lot more excited if there were TvTs and TvZs going on, but SKT likes to win. :'( SKT ruining SPL.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
August 06 2014 05:13 GMT
#337
Well I meant to just briefly give my thoughts on the lineup, but this happened....

+ Show Spoiler +

Proleague Grand Finals Lineup Analysis


(Z)Soulkey > (P)Stats

Perhaps surprisingly, the stats might favour its namesake here. While Soulkey's only ZvP matches in the last 2 months contain losses to sOs and Zest, Stats has been tearing up the matchup, going 12-1 in his last thirteen games. Granted, his opponents in that timeframe haven't always been ZvP maestros (Effort, Hitman, Sniper), but in his recent Code A outing, he handily defeated Life and Rogue to top the group, and he hasn't dropped a PvZ match since April 28.

Still, despite this impressive record, I have to give the edge just slightly to Soulkey. While Stats is certainly an excellent player, Soulkey has consistently maintained championship level play over all of HotS, and has proven his skill time and time again.

(P)PartinG > (T)Flash

PartinG vs Flash has become something of a rivalry in Starcraft II, but unfortunately for Flash, a rather one sided one, with PartinG sporting a dominating 8-1 record since their MLG meeting in the first days of HotS. In Proleague and GSL, PartinG has simply had Flash's number. Of course, past results don't necessarily indicate a present equivalence, and with Flash currently on an 8 game winning streak in TvP, KT fans may have reason to hope for vengeance in this climactic rematch. But if PartinG beating Flash is the status quo, there's nothing in PartinG's recent form that would indicate the time for change has come. The SKT Protoss has quietly amassed a sterling PvT record of 21-3 in 2014 (that's an 87.5% winrate vs only Koreans), with a loss to Bbyong's Gangam Terran being his only match loss this year (amusingly, his last loss before that and only bo3+ loss since March 2013 was an 0-2 to Byun in December).

For those who remember PartinG's reign as the master of PvT in early 2012, nothing has changed since then; Flash has a daunting task in front of him to overcome the infamous Parting vT. He can do it, but I have to give the advantage again to the SKT player in this matchup.

(P)Rain = (P)Zest

Zest, the SKT slayer. Known for his run earlier in the year where he ruthlessly defeated every SKT player he came across, Zest looks to prove that title once more. Standing in his way though, is the player who finally broke Zest's streak of SKT dominance, the ever-solid Rain. With his victory over herO in the ace match vs. CJ Entus, SKT fans will hope that Rain's tendency to disappoint come playoff time is finally over and that he lives up to his status as SKT's ace (despite their roster continually becoming more stacked, he is still the player most often trusted with that role).

Simply put, both Protosses are masters of the PvP matchup and the game in general, and I find them too evenly matched to give one a distinct advantage. This one is, in traditional PvP fashion, a Toss up.

(Z)Dark > (Z)Action

Said to have attained the #1 position in SKT's in-house rankings in the past, and now with 3 consecutive Code S qualifications under his belt, Dark can no longer be said to be the darkhorse in SKT's roster. His role as the starter in each of SKT's playoff matches vs CJ Entus show that he has earned the respect of his coaches and should be considered as dangerous a threat as the rest of SKT's stacked lineup.

Comparatively, Action's accomplishments are a little...lackluster. Since the HotS release, the KT zerg has only qualified for Code A once and only recieving the occasional nod in Proleague over one of KT's main four. Action does have a saving grace though, that being that ZvZ has statistically been his best matchup, with a 63% winrate vs only Korean opponents (Coincidentally, Dark has the same 63% winrate). Add in the relative volatility of ZvZ, and Action's chance at pulling an upset here isn't unrealistic.

(Interesting fact: Dark technically has the highest winrate in Proleague at 75%, and Action is tied for second at 67%, although of course, they have only 9 and 8 games played respectively)

(Z)soO > (Z)Sleep

Imagine if I told you in 2012 that in 2 years, x6.Sleep would be playing in the Grand Finals of Proleague. Preposterous, but fast forward 2 years, and here we are. As a hipster Korean who joined a foreign team before it was cool, Sleep had rather underwhelming results in the foreign scene, never making a big finish in a major tournament. Thus, many fans were understandably surprised when Sleep came 1 map away from making the quarterfinals of Code S last year after returning to Korea. But it seems that training in a Korean teamhouse, first with Azubu and now with KT, has brought out his skills, and no one will be sleeping on him now.

Standing in his way though, is a 3 time GSL finalist, the king of all kongs, SKT_soO. Initially treated as a fluke, no one is denying soO's skill now. His achievement in SCII's most contested tournament is nothing short of incredible, especially in the modern Code S era. Considering this, it's impossible not to give soO the edge in this matchup. Dominating the world's hardest league for an entire year earns you that kind of respect. And yet...there is cause for concern for the GSL's perennial silver medalist. soO's wild success in individual leagues has not translated to teamleagues. A modest 12-11 record is not what one would expect from a player of soO's caliber, and he is currently on a 4 game Proleague losing streak, both in general and in ZvZ matches. If soO doesn't pull it together for the finals, we could Sleep give him a sharp wake up call and take the set for KT Rolster.

(P)Classic > (T)TY

When I first saw the lineups, I originally had this match pegged as being equal like Rain vs. Zest, but a little research now has me favouring Classic here. TY's TvP winrate in 2014 is only 40% compared to a 67% for Classic, and TY has lost 4 consecutive matches versus Protoss. Considering that Classic's record consists of wins over Maru in GSL, one has to credit the GSL champion with top class PvT. An important disclaimer with both players' statistics, however, is that neither have many recent games. Classic just has his 4-2 over Maru in the Code S semifinals and a loss to Bbyong's mech play, while TY likewise has only 2 matches played in the last 2 month (although an 0-2 loss to Hurricane doesn't exactly inspire confidence).

The point is that neither's current form is precisely clear (and Classic's terranless Code S group won't provide pus any additional clues). In spite of his poor TvP record, any avid Proleague viewer will tell you that TY is one of the most talented Terrans in the world. TY is known for bringing out innovative builds in Proleague's Bo1 format, so he'll undoubtedly have something cooked up for Classic.

Overall thoughts:

If KT can take it to the ace match, it's anyone's game, but it'll be quite difficult for them to make it there. I see SKT as being favoured in 5 of the 6 matches, and while I expect KT should take one of them, I predict SKT to close it out 4-2. KT has a significant drop off after their top 4, whereas the bo7 format only allows SKT to further flex their stacked roster (as they no longer need to keep GSL champions on the bench) Then again, this is Proleague where perceived skill gaps are constantly bridged by superior preparation.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
August 06 2014 05:26 GMT
#338
On August 06 2014 09:52 BisuDagger wrote:
KT fans are still here?


Winners don't need to crow. KT best KT.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
August 06 2014 06:05 GMT
#339
I´m actually sad we won´t get to see TY. Dude should go to a real team.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
August 06 2014 07:06 GMT
#340
On August 06 2014 15:05 Daswollvieh wrote:
I´m actually sad we won´t get to see TY. Dude should go to a real team.


Like SKT? Because SKT would have played TY over Classic, Parting, Rain, Dark, Soo, and Soulkey?

You joker.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
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