EPT[SPL] KT vs SKT T1 Round 4 2014 - Page 9
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rotta
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Musicus
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djraphi23
France2262 Posts
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TheDwf
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On June 23 2014 21:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Poll: Recommend Zest vs Soulkey? ★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) ★★★- Good game (3) ★★★★- Highly recommended game (9) ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 18 total votes Your vote: Recommend Zest vs Soulkey? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On June 23 2014 21:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote: What happened that game, I totally fell asleep at my chair? The first part of the all-in failed pretty hard against lings and roaches. SK managed to clean up all Zests pylons. Zest falls back and then comes back harder with more pylons. By then SK had burrow (No robo for Zest) but skipped lings. Zest just overran him with too many stalkers and zealots despite the burrow. | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
On June 23 2014 21:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote: Parting played quite well, almost no one denies scouting this hard. it was still an awful match, flash just insta-died. i never watch SC2 hoping for games like these. | ||
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Ramiz1989
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On June 23 2014 21:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote: What happened that game, I totally fell asleep at my chair? Soulkey overextended for no reason at all, and lost majority of his army because of Time Warp and Force Fields, while Zest was just snowballing with his Blink Stalkers even though he basically lost the game since his first few attacks didn't do much. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
On June 23 2014 21:18 Squat wrote: Zest was never actually behind, even being down on supply. Roaches off creep just can't trade with blink stalkers if timewarp is available, all Zest needed to do was keep the creep back and wait for critical mass of stalkers. SK needed creep spread, static def at the third. Zest was winning almost the whole game. ever since he started researching blink | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On June 23 2014 21:18 Squat wrote: Zest was never actually behind, even being down on supply. Roaches off creep just can't trade with blink stalkers if timewarp is available, all Zest needed to do was keep the creep back and wait for critical mass of stalkers. SK needed creep spread, static def at the third. Zest was winning almost the whole game. I'm rather ignorant when it comes to ZvP but I don't understand either where all those "throw!" claims come from. Soulkey never had more than 40 drones, so even with the gold it's not enough to be significantly ahead against 2-bases Protoss. | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
On June 23 2014 21:18 Ramiz1989 wrote: Soulkey overextended for no reason at all, and lost majority of his army because of Time Warp and Force Fields, while Zest was just snowballing with his Blink Stalkers even though he basically lost the game since his first few attacks didn't do much. Isnt staying back even more risky b/c of ramp FFs and then blink into the 3rd? | ||
Destructicon
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
PvP though. Who knows! | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
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Ramiz1989
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On June 23 2014 21:20 gingerfluffmuff wrote: Isnt staying back even more risky b/c of ramp FFs and then blink into the 3rd? Well, he traded a lot better when he was on creep and when he did let Zest to attack him instead of other way around. He also attacked like 5-10 seconds before Burrow had finished, and he could've traded a lot better with Burrow. I don't know, it was just a bunch of bad decisions from Soulkey in the last few minutes, mass Roaches against Blink Stalkers, attack off Creep, attack without Burrow, not making any lings. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24593 Posts
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On June 23 2014 21:20 TheDwf wrote: I'm rather ignorant when it comes to ZvP but I don't understand either where all those "throw!" claims come from. Soulkey never had more than 40 drones, so even with the gold it's not enough to be significantly ahead against 2-bases Protoss. That's also important to note, Zest was ahead on workers the whole time, even with a gold that is just no sufficient income to win a battle of attrition. It's a protoss strat that works well on maps like this, set up camp outside the zerg third, keep warping in units, poke and prod until you have sufficient army size and your MSC has banked up energy. Zerg cannot drone because he has to make units non-stop as not to die. Eventually as you get enough stuff, your greater efficiency wins out. | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
On June 23 2014 21:23 Ramiz1989 wrote: Well, he traded a lot better when he was on creep and when he did let Zest to attack him instead of other way around. He also attacked like 5-10 seconds before Burrow had finished, and he could trade a lot better with Burrow. I don't know, it was just a bunch of bad decisions from Soulkey in the last few minutes, mass Roaches against Blink Stalkers, attack off Creep, attack without Burrow, not making any lings. Good points. I didnt realized that he didnt wait for Burrow to finish, thats kinda weird. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
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