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Whining about Protoss or balance will be more harshly moderated from page 90 onwards.

Before making comments on race picking, refer to MLG's rules
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 22 2014 20:41 GMT
#2121
Poll: Recommend Losers Round 5 Set 2 Game 1?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
15%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (14)
 
70%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
 
15%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Round 5 Set 2 Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
June 22 2014 20:41 GMT
#2122
sickkkk micro last battle gg scarlett
IMMVP // HIKARU NAKAMURA // DEREK JETER // GARETH BALE
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
June 22 2014 20:41 GMT
#2123
Is the next map frost? TIME TO PROTOSS IT UP
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
June 22 2014 20:41 GMT
#2124
On June 23 2014 05:40 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:40 Xinzoe wrote:
SCARLETT PLEASE RACE SWITCH GAME 2. i missed it, plz make it happen again

She's not going to, that was a 1 time thing. It wouldn't work again.

yeah, she made it sound like she only had one protoss build.
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 22 2014 20:41 GMT
#2125
On June 23 2014 05:40 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:40 Xinzoe wrote:
SCARLETT PLEASE RACE SWITCH GAME 2. i missed it, plz make it happen again

She's not going to, that was a 1 time thing. It wouldn't work again.

no one knew she practiced 7gate until it happened so for all we know she has a sick immo/sentry too :D
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 22 2014 20:42 GMT
#2126
On June 23 2014 05:41 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:40 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:40 Xinzoe wrote:
SCARLETT PLEASE RACE SWITCH GAME 2. i missed it, plz make it happen again

She's not going to, that was a 1 time thing. It wouldn't work again.

The_Templar taunting Scarlett once again

He just wants to be on stream again. He got a big head after he was the true star of HSC IX
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Storm-Giant
Profile Joined March 2012
Spain416 Posts
June 22 2014 20:42 GMT
#2127
Cmon Scarlett, one more!! :D
<3 Rain
Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
June 22 2014 20:42 GMT
#2128
On June 23 2014 05:41 THELEHGOTERRAN wrote:
sickkkk micro last battle gg scarlett


lol
Emerson_H
Profile Joined March 2014
United States460 Posts
June 22 2014 20:42 GMT
#2129
Holy damn. Scarlett why so good
ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
June 22 2014 20:42 GMT
#2130
I werent too impressed with that game by Ragnarok. Scarlett played it very solidly though
ThorZaIN | NaNiwa | SaSe | PartinG | sOs | Jaedong | sOs restored passion!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 22 2014 20:42 GMT
#2131
"can I play protoss now too?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 22 2014 20:42 GMT
#2132
Scarlett could just 2gate
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 22 2014 20:42 GMT
#2133
On June 23 2014 05:41 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:39 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:38 ssxsilver wrote:
Anyone watching the PvP series? It's a ToD/Rotti cast in case people were wondering.


If Olli isn't watching, no one is watching.

I'm watching too, I have to support my boy Trap.


And you make 5.
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 20:44:39
June 22 2014 20:42 GMT
#2134
Cmon Trap, don't be so patient >_>

Literally let a 50 supply advatnage go to waste, in pvp
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 22 2014 20:42 GMT
#2135
On June 23 2014 05:40 templar rage wrote:
Please just go kill him now Scarlett

maxing was the right move, scarlett understands larva timings
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 22 2014 20:42 GMT
#2136
Sup Korean zergs? Having a rough day there?
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
June 22 2014 20:42 GMT
#2137
On June 23 2014 05:41 jakethesnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:40 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:40 Xinzoe wrote:
SCARLETT PLEASE RACE SWITCH GAME 2. i missed it, plz make it happen again

She's not going to, that was a 1 time thing. It wouldn't work again.

yeah, she made it sound like she only had one protoss build.


Sounds like Parting.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 22 2014 20:42 GMT
#2138
On June 23 2014 05:42 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:41 Ej_ wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:40 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:40 Xinzoe wrote:
SCARLETT PLEASE RACE SWITCH GAME 2. i missed it, plz make it happen again

She's not going to, that was a 1 time thing. It wouldn't work again.

The_Templar taunting Scarlett once again

He just wants to be on stream again. He got a big head after he was the true star of HSC IX

I always had a big head.

No, I meant physically a big head.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 22 2014 20:42 GMT
#2139
On June 23 2014 05:40 Foreverkul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:32 Zealously wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:29 Foreverkul wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:25 Konranjyoutai wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:21 radscorpion9 wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:20 sacrilegious wrote:
Aside from what she did whether it was truly legal or not (guessing the MLG rule books say it was ok), that was a history in itself BO3 series there... to race switch with the stakes on the line... holy crap that was insane she took out DRG


I feel like people don't realize how important it was that DRG did three expansions so quickly. He put himself in the riskiest of positions. I mean as someone who is facing an opponent who rarely plays protoss (you would think), what's the first thing you would expect? Probably an all-in of some type, because its the easiest to execute. Yet he does the riskiest build against that.

I'm not sure its so much Scarlett's victory as it was DRG's loss


As Day9 stated when casting the game and DRG sacked an overlord to scout, this is how DRG holds that pressure. He mass produced queens and slow lings as that is usually all that DRG needs to hold it (you can watch his older games vs this 7 gate pressure and see the same thing). Scarlett just memorized the build order and executed it properly with stutter micro. I'm not saying that its right, but that is what happened and DRG thought he could hold. Realistically you should have to do more than just memorize a build to win a game.


In general you shouldn't be able to play a whole other race at a competitive level just by practicing it a few weeks. It devalues the players of that race. This seems like a big deal for a game that is already jokingly quoted as "dead game" and the race in question is already under fire for being considered OP. u_u


In general, forum-goers shouldn't assume that they know how much a player has practised or how good said player is at various things. Your assumption that Scarlett has "only practised a few weeks" is based on the faulty idea that she does not already have monstrously good base skills applicable to all three races. Mvp used to be able to beat European pros with all three races without breaking sweat. It's not unheard of, but you're letting your bias against Protoss convince you that she really only won because she picked Protoss, disregarding skill.

Scarlett is good, no doubt about that. The issue is that most people of a race practice years with that race to reach the levels of progaming that are in. When a progamer can switch to another race without the years of experience in it (I assume Scarlett practices Protoss less than Zerg) and still performs at the level of someone who has used a race their whole life, there are a few things to think about such as: Is the race switcher just that much better than their opponent? Is the race easier to use than other races? (Scarlett herself said it, perhaps as a joke but the race is already under fire) Is there some other flaw in the game that makes it appear this way?

Obviously though, 1 game doesn't PROVE anything, but its definitely got peoples attention and could be a concern.


What do you think about Mvp and MC winning with all three races both in Korea and abroad? Design flaws inherent to Terran, Protoss and Zerg?
Listen, I understand that you feel Protoss is currently favored. But if that is the case, the difference is so negligable that Scarlett's win can and should be credited to her skill and the surprise element rather than any imbalance.
AdministratorBreak the chains
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 22 2014 20:43 GMT
#2140
Hmm maybe the high collosi count can win it for Stardust
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