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Whining about Protoss or balance will be more harshly moderated from page 90 onwards.

Before making comments on race picking, refer to MLG's rules
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 22 2014 20:39 GMT
#2101
Come on Stardust keep it together
Neosteel Enthusiast
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 22 2014 20:39 GMT
#2102
On June 23 2014 05:38 ssxsilver wrote:
Anyone watching the PvP series? It's a ToD/Rotti cast in case people were wondering.


If Olli isn't watching, no one is watching.
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 20:40:28
June 22 2014 20:40 GMT
#2103
I think Trap's got this! IM hwaitinguu
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 22 2014 20:40 GMT
#2104
I think Scarlett should attack with +2.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 20:40:25
June 22 2014 20:40 GMT
#2105
SCARLETT PLEASE RACE SWITCH GAME 2. i missed it, plz make it happen again
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 22 2014 20:40 GMT
#2106
On June 23 2014 05:38 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:38 Incognoto wrote:
Maybe scarlett is actually legitimately good? not sure


When in doubt, blame race rather than skill. Chances are that people who practise 40+ hours a week aren't really that good at the game.


This is a mirror though, which race to I blame?
maru lover forever
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
June 22 2014 20:40 GMT
#2107
On June 23 2014 05:39 Mozdk wrote:
Scarlett is eating Korean Zergs for dinner.

Beat HyuN, Life, DRG and possibly RagnaroK.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 22 2014 20:40 GMT
#2108
Probably because JD is a member of EG and he hasn't played in the KeSPA leagues in ages. Not only that, but DRG hasn't really been performing that well recently either so I don't get the fuss; whereas, Scarlett just continues to get decent results internationally. #Alliswell.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
June 22 2014 20:40 GMT
#2109
On June 23 2014 05:39 Darkhorse wrote:
"Switch to Protoss Ragnarok. Do it." - Scarlett in private chat right now. Guaranteed


one of us. one of us.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
June 22 2014 20:40 GMT
#2110
On June 23 2014 05:40 Xinzoe wrote:
SCARLETT PLEASE RACE SWITCH GAME 2

WE ALREADY HAD THAT WE HAVE TO DO EVEN BETTER. RACE SWITCH MID GAME PLEASE SCARLETT
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
June 22 2014 20:40 GMT
#2111
On June 23 2014 05:32 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:29 Foreverkul wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:25 Konranjyoutai wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:21 radscorpion9 wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:20 sacrilegious wrote:
Aside from what she did whether it was truly legal or not (guessing the MLG rule books say it was ok), that was a history in itself BO3 series there... to race switch with the stakes on the line... holy crap that was insane she took out DRG


I feel like people don't realize how important it was that DRG did three expansions so quickly. He put himself in the riskiest of positions. I mean as someone who is facing an opponent who rarely plays protoss (you would think), what's the first thing you would expect? Probably an all-in of some type, because its the easiest to execute. Yet he does the riskiest build against that.

I'm not sure its so much Scarlett's victory as it was DRG's loss


As Day9 stated when casting the game and DRG sacked an overlord to scout, this is how DRG holds that pressure. He mass produced queens and slow lings as that is usually all that DRG needs to hold it (you can watch his older games vs this 7 gate pressure and see the same thing). Scarlett just memorized the build order and executed it properly with stutter micro. I'm not saying that its right, but that is what happened and DRG thought he could hold. Realistically you should have to do more than just memorize a build to win a game.


In general you shouldn't be able to play a whole other race at a competitive level just by practicing it a few weeks. It devalues the players of that race. This seems like a big deal for a game that is already jokingly quoted as "dead game" and the race in question is already under fire for being considered OP. u_u


In general, forum-goers shouldn't assume that they know how much a player has practised or how good said player is at various things. Your assumption that Scarlett has "only practised a few weeks" is based on the faulty idea that she does not already have monstrously good base skills applicable to all three races. Mvp used to be able to beat European pros with all three races without breaking sweat. It's not unheard of, but you're letting your bias against Protoss convince you that she really only won because she picked Protoss, disregarding skill.

Scarlett is good, no doubt about that. The issue is that most people of a race practice years with that race to reach the levels of progaming that are in. When a progamer can switch to another race without the years of experience in it (I assume Scarlett practices Protoss less than Zerg) and still performs at the level of someone who has used a race their whole life, there are a few things to think about such as: Is the race switcher just that much better than their opponent? Is the race easier to use than other races? (Scarlett herself said it, perhaps as a joke but the race is already under fire) Is there some other flaw in the game that makes it appear this way?

Obviously though, 1 game doesn't PROVE anything, but its definitely got peoples attention and could be a concern.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 22 2014 20:40 GMT
#2112
On June 23 2014 05:40 Xinzoe wrote:
SCARLETT PLEASE RACE SWITCH GAME 2. i missed it, plz make it happen again

She's not going to, that was a 1 time thing. It wouldn't work again.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
June 22 2014 20:40 GMT
#2113
Please just go kill him now Scarlett
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 22 2014 20:40 GMT
#2114
On June 23 2014 05:39 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:38 ssxsilver wrote:
Anyone watching the PvP series? It's a ToD/Rotti cast in case people were wondering.


If Olli isn't watching, no one is watching.

i have it opened on different tab, Trap has more supply and bases so i assume hes winning
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
June 22 2014 20:41 GMT
#2115
end this
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
June 22 2014 20:41 GMT
#2116
On June 23 2014 05:40 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:40 Xinzoe wrote:
SCARLETT PLEASE RACE SWITCH GAME 2. i missed it, plz make it happen again

She's not going to, that was a 1 time thing. It wouldn't work again.


Terran
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 22 2014 20:41 GMT
#2117
Uh oh Stardust looks screwed.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
June 22 2014 20:41 GMT
#2118
wow - great 3 roach attack. super successful
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 22 2014 20:41 GMT
#2119
On June 23 2014 05:40 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:40 Xinzoe wrote:
SCARLETT PLEASE RACE SWITCH GAME 2. i missed it, plz make it happen again

She's not going to, that was a 1 time thing. It wouldn't work again.

The_Templar taunting Scarlett once again
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
June 22 2014 20:41 GMT
#2120
On June 23 2014 05:39 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:38 ssxsilver wrote:
Anyone watching the PvP series? It's a ToD/Rotti cast in case people were wondering.


If Olli isn't watching, no one is watching.

I'm watching too, I have to support my boy Trap.
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