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Whining about Protoss or balance will be more harshly moderated from page 90 onwards.

Before making comments on race picking, refer to MLG's rules
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 22 2014 20:43 GMT
#2141
scarlett queen of the mindgames (:
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16084 Posts
June 22 2014 20:43 GMT
#2142
On June 23 2014 05:42 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:41 Kasaraki wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:39 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:38 ssxsilver wrote:
Anyone watching the PvP series? It's a ToD/Rotti cast in case people were wondering.


If Olli isn't watching, no one is watching.

I'm watching too, I have to support my boy Trap.


And you make 5.


I'm sure there's actually quite a few. I have it minimized on a separate tab.

It is a ZvZ vs a PvP, thats gonna split the views quite nicely. Only reason the main stage has more is because of Scarlett.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 22 2014 20:43 GMT
#2143
On June 23 2014 05:41 jakethesnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:40 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:40 Xinzoe wrote:
SCARLETT PLEASE RACE SWITCH GAME 2. i missed it, plz make it happen again

She's not going to, that was a 1 time thing. It wouldn't work again.

yeah, she made it sound like she only had one protoss build.

I mean it does work for HuK?

Oh wait...
why even
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 22 2014 20:43 GMT
#2144
Oh hey LP's new album is really good
AdministratorBreak the chains
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
June 22 2014 20:43 GMT
#2145
On June 23 2014 05:42 Muffloe wrote:
Cmon Trap, don't be so patient >_>

It's that classic IM protoss patience, it always kills me. D:
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 22 2014 20:43 GMT
#2146
On June 23 2014 05:42 Heinsenzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:41 THELEHGOTERRAN wrote:
sickkkk micro last battle gg scarlett


lol

zvz is awesome when it's even, but if one player gets ahead by more than ~10 supply in roach vs roach it's basically just waiting for the engagement and it's really boring
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
June 22 2014 20:43 GMT
#2147
Dangit I was hoping for Stardust. He looks pretty much dead here.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 22 2014 20:43 GMT
#2148
Good hold into good Contaminate into Roach slaughter. Solid ZvZ. Nothing crazy, just solid.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 22 2014 20:43 GMT
#2149
On June 23 2014 05:43 Zealously wrote:
Oh hey LP's new album is really good

oh yes it is
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
mathieu026
Profile Joined July 2013
14 Posts
June 22 2014 20:43 GMT
#2150
Are there VOD's available for MLG? Due to timezones I might not be able to catch the last rounds. WIll I be able to watch them tomorrow on VOD?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 22 2014 20:43 GMT
#2151
On June 23 2014 05:42 Squat wrote:
Sup Korean zergs? Having a rough day there?


DRG's been having a rough time for the last few months.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
June 22 2014 20:44 GMT
#2152
Man scarlett, lone foreign hope. What a fucking bracket she has to go through.

Life>DRG>Ragnarok> (trap/stardust)>(violet/polt)>(violet/polt)

Man stressful
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
June 22 2014 20:44 GMT
#2153
On June 23 2014 05:42 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:40 Foreverkul wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:32 Zealously wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:29 Foreverkul wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:25 Konranjyoutai wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:21 radscorpion9 wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:20 sacrilegious wrote:
Aside from what she did whether it was truly legal or not (guessing the MLG rule books say it was ok), that was a history in itself BO3 series there... to race switch with the stakes on the line... holy crap that was insane she took out DRG


I feel like people don't realize how important it was that DRG did three expansions so quickly. He put himself in the riskiest of positions. I mean as someone who is facing an opponent who rarely plays protoss (you would think), what's the first thing you would expect? Probably an all-in of some type, because its the easiest to execute. Yet he does the riskiest build against that.

I'm not sure its so much Scarlett's victory as it was DRG's loss


As Day9 stated when casting the game and DRG sacked an overlord to scout, this is how DRG holds that pressure. He mass produced queens and slow lings as that is usually all that DRG needs to hold it (you can watch his older games vs this 7 gate pressure and see the same thing). Scarlett just memorized the build order and executed it properly with stutter micro. I'm not saying that its right, but that is what happened and DRG thought he could hold. Realistically you should have to do more than just memorize a build to win a game.


In general you shouldn't be able to play a whole other race at a competitive level just by practicing it a few weeks. It devalues the players of that race. This seems like a big deal for a game that is already jokingly quoted as "dead game" and the race in question is already under fire for being considered OP. u_u


In general, forum-goers shouldn't assume that they know how much a player has practised or how good said player is at various things. Your assumption that Scarlett has "only practised a few weeks" is based on the faulty idea that she does not already have monstrously good base skills applicable to all three races. Mvp used to be able to beat European pros with all three races without breaking sweat. It's not unheard of, but you're letting your bias against Protoss convince you that she really only won because she picked Protoss, disregarding skill.

Scarlett is good, no doubt about that. The issue is that most people of a race practice years with that race to reach the levels of progaming that are in. When a progamer can switch to another race without the years of experience in it (I assume Scarlett practices Protoss less than Zerg) and still performs at the level of someone who has used a race their whole life, there are a few things to think about such as: Is the race switcher just that much better than their opponent? Is the race easier to use than other races? (Scarlett herself said it, perhaps as a joke but the race is already under fire) Is there some other flaw in the game that makes it appear this way?

Obviously though, 1 game doesn't PROVE anything, but its definitely got peoples attention and could be a concern.


What do you think about Mvp and MC winning with all three races both in Korea and abroad? Design flaws inherent to Terran, Protoss and Zerg?
Listen, I understand that you feel Protoss is currently favored. But if that is the case, the difference is so negligable that Scarlett's win can and should be credited to her skill and the surprise element rather than any imbalance.


The whine is strong with this one; don't feed it....
Cogito, ergo toss.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 22 2014 20:44 GMT
#2154
On June 23 2014 05:43 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:42 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:41 Kasaraki wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:39 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:38 ssxsilver wrote:
Anyone watching the PvP series? It's a ToD/Rotti cast in case people were wondering.


If Olli isn't watching, no one is watching.

I'm watching too, I have to support my boy Trap.


And you make 5.


I'm sure there's actually quite a few. I have it minimized on a separate tab.

It is a ZvZ vs a PvP, thats gonna split the views quite nicely. Only reason the main stage has more is because of Scarlett.


No I mean 5 fans of Trap. Not ppl watching the stream.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 22 2014 20:44 GMT
#2155
Damn trap is just building every protoss unit
Neosteel Enthusiast
mario1996
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany20 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 20:44:51
June 22 2014 20:44 GMT
#2156
!!Breaking News!!! DAVID KIM statement after the Game!!!
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
June 22 2014 20:44 GMT
#2157
I would love to see Trap go far.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 22 2014 20:44 GMT
#2158
On June 23 2014 05:41 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Poll: Recommend Losers Round 5 Set 2 Game 1?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
15%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (14)
 
70%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
 
15%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Round 5 Set 2 Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 22 2014 20:44 GMT
#2159
On June 23 2014 05:43 Zealously wrote:
Oh hey LP's new album is really good

Quite meh actually.
why even
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 22 2014 20:44 GMT
#2160
On June 23 2014 05:44 mario1996 wrote:
!!Breaking News!!! DAVID KIM

breaking news: scarlett
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