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Let's cut down on the excessive hashtagging in this thread. This isn't Twitter.

Please don't "500!" on page 500 (and similar comments)

non twitch stream: http://eu.battle.net/blizzcon/en/live-stream/
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
November 08 2013 08:06 GMT
#5921
Wow there hasn't been this much hype since early sc2. This is like boxer vs idra good. Or even breaking bad good. Can't wait to see how the final story of this year unfolds.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 08:08:13
November 08 2013 08:07 GMT
#5922
On November 08 2013 17:06 lannisport wrote:
Wow there hasn't been this much hype since early sc2. This is like boxer vs idra good. Or even breaking bad good. Can't wait to see how the final story of this year unfolds.


Well, Boxer vs Idra was mostly anticipated because of their names, the games themselves were rather terrible. Breaking Bad season 2 was bad.

There will be no "well, ..."s at Blizzcon. This is the 16 best players of the year.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Mintie
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia563 Posts
November 08 2013 08:09 GMT
#5923
Wow, things got dark in here. So much negativity!

As a fan, I honestly don't mind who wins out of HerO and sOs, both impeccably entertaining Toss players in different ways. HerO has shown an outrageous willingness to gamble in PvP, and combined with the unpredictability of sOs's strategies I think that this could actually be a tremendously entertaining series if you like mad-cap action and weird scenarios.

What I would love to see is sOs show us fresh builds, and for HerO to anticipate this to some extent and open super-safe, play really reactively into the midgame. Is HerO confident enough in macro games to do this? His defence (in all matchups!) as generally been a bit suspect, so I think that he'll go on the offensive and try and pick up some build-order wins.

I can't see sOs ever doing anything other than being sOs. This will probably be the "worst" series for the die-hards (decided more by build order advantages and spawn locations, scouting patterns, and other randomness that for some reason the more hardcore viewers hate), but I think it'll have a lot of great micro and be a lot of fun!

FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 08 2013 08:10 GMT
#5924
On November 08 2013 17:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 17:06 lannisport wrote:
Wow there hasn't been this much hype since early sc2. This is like boxer vs idra good. Or even breaking bad good. Can't wait to see how the final story of this year unfolds.


Well, Boxer vs Idra was mostly anticipated because of their names, the games themselves were rather terrible. Breaking Bad season 2 was bad.

There will be no "well, ..."s at Blizzcon. This is the 16 best players of the year.


:O

I agree it's the weakest season, but c'mon now
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 08 2013 08:14 GMT
#5925
I think the winner of Taeja and Dear makes the finals and wins it all. They are just both way to solid in all the match ups. Change up their game so they aren't very predictable and are basically unbeatable late game. And I think Taeja wins because unlike someone like Maru who has had issues with Dear because he just tries to beat his opponent down, Taeja wants to go late game because he is better than anyone else at that point.
QO Feasting
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 08:18:53
November 08 2013 08:14 GMT
#5926
Honestly, HerO's macro PvPs are really strong. In the games he won against Dear (and even the ones he lost) his decisionmaking in teching/scouting and reacting to Dear was superior to Dear. Game 3 (1st series) on Whirlwind he reacted to Dear's teching perfectly, did insane damage with warp prism harrass while having the correct transition ready at all times. Then he got timewarped out of position. Game 2 (series 2) on Belshir his army construction was far superior to Dear's. He had 6 tempests ready against a double robo colossus army - he won that game.

What kills him is his insanely aggressive mindset that makes him split up his army, looking to do damage to exploit his advantages instead of taking the safer route of perhaps taking earlier bases/denying his opponents' and then deathballing to victory. Instead he'll be warping in in 3 places at once, has his army threatening a place and then gets timewarped and loses his main army while none of his warpins are able to deal as much damage as his opponent does by killing his army.

If he gets that fixed he's got killer PvP.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 08:16:57
November 08 2013 08:16 GMT
#5927
On November 08 2013 17:14 bourne117 wrote:
I think the winner of Taeja and Dear makes the finals and wins it all. They are just both way to solid in all the match ups. Change up their game so they aren't very predictable and are basically unbeatable late game. And I think Taeja wins because unlike someone like Maru who has had issues with Dear because he just tries to beat his opponent down, Taeja wants to go late game because he is better than anyone else at that point.

I agree that the winner of Taeja and Dear is more likely to make it to the final, but if it's Taeja vs Soulkey i think soulkey stands a better chance.

E: Anyway Taeja and Dear're gonna get through each other first...
Startale forever.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
November 08 2013 08:18 GMT
#5928
Bloody hell. 300 pages before we even start.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
November 08 2013 08:18 GMT
#5929
10 more hours to GOGOGOG
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
November 08 2013 08:19 GMT
#5930
12hours untill the first games *.*
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
November 08 2013 08:22 GMT
#5931
On November 08 2013 17:18 Dinotramp wrote:
Bloody hell. 300 pages before we even start.

Let make it 500 pages before we start.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
November 08 2013 08:23 GMT
#5932
I was thinking earlier how much I enjoyed the IPL Fight Club tournament format. Wish we still had something like that.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 08 2013 08:24 GMT
#5933
On November 08 2013 17:16 lystier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 17:14 bourne117 wrote:
I think the winner of Taeja and Dear makes the finals and wins it all. They are just both way to solid in all the match ups. Change up their game so they aren't very predictable and are basically unbeatable late game. And I think Taeja wins because unlike someone like Maru who has had issues with Dear because he just tries to beat his opponent down, Taeja wants to go late game because he is better than anyone else at that point.

I agree that the winner of Taeja and Dear is more likely to make it to the final, but if it's Taeja vs Soulkey i think soulkey stands a better chance.

E: Anyway Taeja and Dear're gonna get through each other first...

Taeja vs Soulkey will be an epic match on the level of Soulkey Innovation which is why I really hope Taeja wins aside from being a huge fanboy. Aside from Taeja I honestly don't think anyone can beat him.
QO Feasting
lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
November 08 2013 08:26 GMT
#5934
On November 08 2013 17:24 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 17:16 lystier wrote:
On November 08 2013 17:14 bourne117 wrote:
I think the winner of Taeja and Dear makes the finals and wins it all. They are just both way to solid in all the match ups. Change up their game so they aren't very predictable and are basically unbeatable late game. And I think Taeja wins because unlike someone like Maru who has had issues with Dear because he just tries to beat his opponent down, Taeja wants to go late game because he is better than anyone else at that point.

I agree that the winner of Taeja and Dear is more likely to make it to the final, but if it's Taeja vs Soulkey i think soulkey stands a better chance.

E: Anyway Taeja and Dear're gonna get through each other first...

Taeja vs Soulkey will be an epic match on the level of Soulkey Innovation which is why I really hope Taeja wins aside from being a huge fanboy. Aside from Taeja I honestly don't think anyone can beat him.

Dear, possibly. Really looking forward Taeja vs Dear. I think both of them are capable to get to the semifinals if they didn't meet in the first round.
Startale forever.
HonorZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France858 Posts
November 08 2013 08:30 GMT
#5935
OMG ! I'm so excited ! I can't realize these actually are the ultimate top 16 of the year !
This guarantees a good good time and a really good tournament !

Besides, the corresponding event is a really nice buff.

I think Blizzard improved a lot the WCS system. Last years WCS finals weren't nearly as good in term of player potential. This is finally and ultimately the final phases of the SCII World Cup.

To all those events (WCG, ESWC) who pretended to showcase the worldcup, this is how you do it.
"If you don't drop sweat today you'll drop tears tomorrow"
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 08 2013 08:30 GMT
#5936
On November 08 2013 17:26 lystier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 17:24 bourne117 wrote:
On November 08 2013 17:16 lystier wrote:
On November 08 2013 17:14 bourne117 wrote:
I think the winner of Taeja and Dear makes the finals and wins it all. They are just both way to solid in all the match ups. Change up their game so they aren't very predictable and are basically unbeatable late game. And I think Taeja wins because unlike someone like Maru who has had issues with Dear because he just tries to beat his opponent down, Taeja wants to go late game because he is better than anyone else at that point.

I agree that the winner of Taeja and Dear is more likely to make it to the final, but if it's Taeja vs Soulkey i think soulkey stands a better chance.

E: Anyway Taeja and Dear're gonna get through each other first...

Taeja vs Soulkey will be an epic match on the level of Soulkey Innovation which is why I really hope Taeja wins aside from being a huge fanboy. Aside from Taeja I honestly don't think anyone can beat him.

Dear, possibly. Really looking forward Taeja vs Dear. I think both of them are capable to get to the semifinals if they didn't meet in the first round.

They really are. The brackets are honestly pretty lopsided. I would say the top 5 players are Maru Innovation Soulkey and Taeja in no particular order. One of them is out first round and another is out next round no matter what. Soulkey won't have to meet any of them till he gets to the finals.
QO Feasting
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
November 08 2013 08:31 GMT
#5937
Wow, we ARE gonna make 300 pages before Blizzcon

gj everyone /hats-off
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 08 2013 08:31 GMT
#5938
Yeah it's pretty hard to imagine Soulkey not making the finals with his bracket. the other side seems like a lot more of a toss up
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KingOfNoodles
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia379 Posts
November 08 2013 08:34 GMT
#5939
I really love that they are doing Bo5s in the brackets, but I'm kinda torn because I want to watch every single match individually. I want to feel fully invested in each match as its being played.

Will there be casters and analysts for both streams?
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
November 08 2013 08:34 GMT
#5940
As much as we all hated WCS when it was first announced and despite the HUGE issues it has had the past year You got to admit, we do have one of the most stacked tournaments in history now.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
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