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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
October 16 2013 01:57 GMT
#801
Life goes on, as it never ends. Eyes of stone observe the trends.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 16 2013 01:57 GMT
#802
On October 16 2013 10:55 isaachukfan wrote:
Wait someone explain how it is even possible for Naniwa to make Blizzcon, Soo will automatically overtake him regardless of what happens in the GSL finals or at the Season 3 finals, as he will get a minimum of 1500 points even if he loses in the worst possible fashion in both of those events. (1000 for WCS KR second place, 500 for 13th-16th at the season finals) This will give him 2300+1500, which is 3800. Dear will also be getting a minimum of 1500 points from these two events taking him up to a total of 3250. Naniwa only has 3200, and no further opportunities to earn points. As Naniwa is currently ranked 14th, when these two players automatically overtake him he will be bumped down to 17th with no further opportunities to earn points....

I can't see how he makes it, could someone enlighten me?

IDK ask Die4Ever
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 16 2013 01:57 GMT
#803
On October 16 2013 10:54 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 10:52 felisconcolori wrote:
Surprise! Arthur vs. Nestea.


why is this game being played now?


Because Nestea has to beat someone tonight.

+ Show Spoiler +
Probably to keep schedule on target, is my guess.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
October 16 2013 01:57 GMT
#804
On October 16 2013 10:45 TAMinator wrote:
if we have 0 foreigners in Blizzcon we'll lose half the viewership


The GSL finals were great at BlizzCon along with the Blizzcon invitational. While it was nice to see foreigners they were outplayed in the first rounds.

Good mix of races and fan favorites, it will be a great tournament.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25477 Posts
October 16 2013 01:58 GMT
#805
On October 16 2013 10:56 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 10:54 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:52 doffe wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...



I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.

Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.

i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?

i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot

It's a simple distinction between being a fan of the game itself, and being a fan/supporter of a player/team, with maybe only a passing interest in the scene as a whole.

I mean, if I stop watching a tennis tournament because say, Roger Federer is out, versus a guy who watches all the way to completion regardless, it's not to say you're not a 'real' fan perhaps, but he'd definitely be considered a more dedicated/neutral one to me.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8541 Posts
October 16 2013 01:58 GMT
#806
On October 16 2013 10:57 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 10:55 isaachukfan wrote:
Wait someone explain how it is even possible for Naniwa to make Blizzcon, Soo will automatically overtake him regardless of what happens in the GSL finals or at the Season 3 finals, as he will get a minimum of 1500 points even if he loses in the worst possible fashion in both of those events. (1000 for WCS KR second place, 500 for 13th-16th at the season finals) This will give him 2300+1500, which is 3800. Dear will also be getting a minimum of 1500 points from these two events taking him up to a total of 3250. Naniwa only has 3200, and no further opportunities to earn points. As Naniwa is currently ranked 14th, when these two players automatically overtake him he will be bumped down to 17th with no further opportunities to earn points....

I can't see how he makes it, could someone enlighten me?

IDK ask Die4Ever


I did!

That's what he had to say.

For Naniwa
-------------------------------------------Scarlett gets 16th place in America Premier
This happens 38.156% of the time. When it does, it increases NaNiwa's chances to 44.123%.

Running the new stats now which will be more accurate with current results.
edit: that's up from 30.2%

Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 16 2013 01:58 GMT
#807
On October 16 2013 10:57 Sufinsil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 10:45 TAMinator wrote:
if we have 0 foreigners in Blizzcon we'll lose half the viewership


The GSL finals were great at BlizzCon along with the Blizzcon invitational. While it was nice to see foreigners they were outplayed in the first rounds.

Good mix of races and fan favorites, it will be a great tournament.

Select just BARELY didn't beat Mvp. Was a pretty good tourney. I count him as a foreigner.
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 16 2013 01:58 GMT
#808
On October 16 2013 10:49 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 10:48 geokilla wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:46 Waise wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...

if you don't watch every single sc2 game streamed on the internet, you're not a fan of sc2. watch all the games or you don't have ESPORTS PASSION

There's so much SC2 content it's not even funny... WAY too much.


I respectfully disagree. This is not 2012.


2012 was tough. Really tough. But this year is impossible.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 16 2013 01:59 GMT
#809
On October 16 2013 10:56 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 10:50 Waise wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:49 Wombat_NI wrote:
Stop fucking bitching, christ.

If you don't want to watch, or only care for foreigner/Korean showdowns, go ahead, by my guest. Stop polluting LR threads with poisonous negativity and let the people who care watch and discuss the games together.

this is more negative than anything else i've seen in the thread though??? other than the guy who posted the middle finger and "bye fangirls" about scarlett losing

there's one dude who posted the same thing about how he hates naniwa like 5 times. who else is "fucking bitching"? i think you need to relax

Its directed at the good ole "I wont watch WCS now because blablabla!" and "Viewership will drop because nagnagnag." comments.

yea but those were all just individual people posting their opinions, which they're entitled to. i don't think that amounts to "bitching" or "negativity," it's people who were watching the games sharing their feelings about the tournament. as long as it's not like one person or the same couple of people starting arguments for pages and pages, i don't see the problem with it
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33403 Posts
October 16 2013 01:59 GMT
#810
On October 16 2013 10:55 isaachukfan wrote:
Wait someone explain how it is even possible for Naniwa to make Blizzcon, Soo will automatically overtake him regardless of what happens in the GSL finals or at the Season 3 finals, as he will get a minimum of 1500 points even if he loses in the worst possible fashion in both of those events. (1000 for WCS KR second place, 500 for 13th-16th at the season finals) This will give him 2300+1500, which is 3800. Dear will also be getting a minimum of 1500 points from these two events taking him up to a total of 3250. Naniwa only has 3200, and no further opportunities to earn points. As Naniwa is currently ranked 14th, when these two players automatically overtake him he will be bumped down to 17th with no further opportunities to earn points....

Vortix could also knock him out with a good showing at WCS Toronto...

I can't see how he makes it, could someone enlighten me?


soo's 2300 already INCLUDES the minimum he woudl get for gsl finals and season 3 finals
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25477 Posts
October 16 2013 02:00 GMT
#811
On October 16 2013 10:59 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 10:56 Bowzar wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:50 Waise wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:49 Wombat_NI wrote:
Stop fucking bitching, christ.

If you don't want to watch, or only care for foreigner/Korean showdowns, go ahead, by my guest. Stop polluting LR threads with poisonous negativity and let the people who care watch and discuss the games together.

this is more negative than anything else i've seen in the thread though??? other than the guy who posted the middle finger and "bye fangirls" about scarlett losing

there's one dude who posted the same thing about how he hates naniwa like 5 times. who else is "fucking bitching"? i think you need to relax

Its directed at the good ole "I wont watch WCS now because blablabla!" and "Viewership will drop because nagnagnag." comments.

yea but those were all just individual people posting their opinions, which they're entitled to. i don't think that amounts to "bitching" or "negativity," it's people who were watching the games sharing their feelings about the tournament. as long as it's not like one person or the same couple of people starting arguments for pages and pages, i don't see the problem with it

And we're stating our opinion on their opinion, which we're entitled to do.

Tis a vicious circle if you adopt that mentality y'know, may as well make arbitrary cutoffs as to what is acceptable/not in an LR thread.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
October 16 2013 02:00 GMT
#812
On October 16 2013 10:58 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 10:56 Waise wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:54 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:52 doffe wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...



I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.

Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.

i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?

i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot

It's a simple distinction between being a fan of the game itself, and being a fan/supporter of a player/team, with maybe only a passing interest in the scene as a whole.

I mean, if I stop watching a tennis tournament because say, Roger Federer is out, versus a guy who watches all the way to completion regardless, it's not to say you're not a 'real' fan perhaps, but he'd definitely be considered a more dedicated/neutral one to me.


How can it be, you're asking me to feel the things you never show?
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
October 16 2013 02:00 GMT
#813
On October 16 2013 10:55 isaachukfan wrote:
Wait someone explain how it is even possible for Naniwa to make Blizzcon, Soo will automatically overtake him regardless of what happens in the GSL finals or at the Season 3 finals, as he will get a minimum of 1500 points even if he loses in the worst possible fashion in both of those events. (1000 for WCS KR second place, 500 for 13th-16th at the season finals) This will give him 2300+1500, which is 3800. Dear will also be getting a minimum of 1500 points from these two events taking him up to a total of 3250. Naniwa only has 3200, and no further opportunities to earn points. As Naniwa is currently ranked 14th, when these two players automatically overtake him he will be bumped down to 17th with no further opportunities to earn points....

I can't see how he makes it, could someone enlighten me?


You're forgetting that Dear and soO's points are already calculated into TL. For example, soO have 2300 points after 2nd place and 16th place in S3 Finals. If soO made 1st at blizzcon he'd be at 2800 points. If he then made Ro8 at S3 he'd be at 3050. He needs to make at least Ro4 to knock out naniwa.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Applesmack
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada680 Posts
October 16 2013 02:00 GMT
#814
On October 16 2013 10:58 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 10:56 Waise wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:54 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:52 doffe wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...



I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.

Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.

i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?

i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot

It's a simple distinction between being a fan of the game itself, and being a fan/supporter of a player/team, with maybe only a passing interest in the scene as a whole.

I mean, if I stop watching a tennis tournament because say, Roger Federer is out, versus a guy who watches all the way to completion regardless, it's not to say you're not a 'real' fan perhaps, but he'd definitely be considered a more dedicated/neutral one to me.


Haha you realize that's how the vast majority of people think right? Why would I watch sports if my favourite team is not there? Sure I may watch the Superbowl or the Stanley Cup because it is a major once per year event, but there is no way I'm watching games that my favorite team or player isn't playing in. And I DEFINATELY wont watch games where I have to watch a player I hate (in this case Naniwa). If I only cared about Starcraft scene for the games, I would just go and play myself.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 16 2013 02:00 GMT
#815
On October 16 2013 10:56 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 10:54 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:52 doffe wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...



I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.

Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.

i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?

i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot

I feel like you aren't a fan of the game itself if you only watch when one specific player plays. I don't think you are a cooler person or part of some club if you are a bigger fan . Idk not trying to start some big thing.
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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 16 2013 02:00 GMT
#816
On October 16 2013 10:58 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 10:56 Waise wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:54 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:52 doffe wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...



I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.

Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.

i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?

i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot

It's a simple distinction between being a fan of the game itself, and being a fan/supporter of a player/team, with maybe only a passing interest in the scene as a whole.

I mean, if I stop watching a tennis tournament because say, Roger Federer is out, versus a guy who watches all the way to completion regardless, it's not to say you're not a 'real' fan perhaps, but he'd definitely be considered a more dedicated/neutral one to me.

my question was what is the point of the distinction? i always see the "real" fans talking about who is or isn't a "real fan", and i'm talking about real sports too where i've seen the same thing (baseball football etc.). i'm honestly just at a loss for why you would say to someone "you're not a real fan!" like, what are they supposed to do? apologize?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33403 Posts
October 16 2013 02:01 GMT
#817
guys MacSed is a foreigner too!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 16 2013 02:02 GMT
#818
On October 16 2013 11:00 Applesmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 10:58 Wombat_NI wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:56 Waise wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:54 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:52 doffe wrote:
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...



I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.

Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.

i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?

i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot

It's a simple distinction between being a fan of the game itself, and being a fan/supporter of a player/team, with maybe only a passing interest in the scene as a whole.

I mean, if I stop watching a tennis tournament because say, Roger Federer is out, versus a guy who watches all the way to completion regardless, it's not to say you're not a 'real' fan perhaps, but he'd definitely be considered a more dedicated/neutral one to me.


Haha you realize that's how the vast majority of people think right? Why would I watch sports if my favourite team is not there? Sure I may watch the Superbowl or the Stanley Cup because it is a major once per year event, but there is no way I'm watching games that my favorite team or player isn't playing in. And I DEFINATELY wont watch games where I have to watch a player I hate (in this case Naniwa). If I only cared about Starcraft scene for the games, I would just go and play myself.

Blizzcon is basically the superbowl or stanley cup though
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 16 2013 02:02 GMT
#819
On October 16 2013 11:01 Waxangel wrote:
guys MacSed is a foreigner too!

New best foreigner! HYPE!
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
October 16 2013 02:03 GMT
#820
While everyone was busy with the drama, I've been sneaking Backstreet Boys lyrics into this thread.

No need to thank me.
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