★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
67%
★★★ - Good game (2)
22%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
11%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Oz vs Macsed: Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Oz vs Macsed: Game 2
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
40%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
40%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
20%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Oz vs Macsed: Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Oz vs Macsed: Game 3
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
50%
★★★ - Good game (2)
20%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
10%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
10%
10 total votes
Your vote: Oz vs Macsed: Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
18%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
14%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
9%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
5%
22 total votes
Your vote: Scarlett vs Nestea: Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Scarlett vs Nestea: Game 2
★★★ - Good game (13)
52%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
20%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (5)
20%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
4%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
4%
25 total votes
Your vote: Scarlett vs Nestea: Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Scarlett vs Nestea: Game 3
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (5)
38%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (4)
31%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
15%
★★★ - Good game (2)
15%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Scarlett vs Nestea: Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
14%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Group B Winners' Match: Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Group B Winners' Match: Game 2
★★★ - Good game (5)
50%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
20%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
10%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
10%
10 total votes
Your vote: Group B Winners' Match: Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Group B Winners' Match: Game 3
★★★ - Good game (6)
67%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
22%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Group B Winners' Match: Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
100%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Group B Losers' Match: Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Group B Losers' Match: Game 2
★★★ - Good game (2)
33%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
33%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
17%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Group B Losers' Match: Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Group B Losers' Match: Game 3
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
50%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
50%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
2 total votes
Your vote: Group B Losers' Match: Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
60%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
30%
★★★ - Good game (1)
10%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Group B Decider Match: Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Group B Decider Match: Game 2
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (7)
39%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (6)
33%
★★★ - Good game (2)
11%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
11%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
6%
18 total votes
Your vote: Group B Decider Match: Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Group B Decider Match: Game 3
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (5)
45%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
27%
★★★ - Good game (2)
18%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
9%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Group B Decider Match: Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Who will advance to Ro8?
Scarlett & Nestea (22)
28%
Scarlett & Oz (22)
28%
Scarlett & Macsed (17)
22%
Nestea & Oz (10)
13%
Oz & Macsed (5)
6%
Nestea & Macsed (3)
4%
79 total votes
Your vote: Who will advance to Ro8?
(Vote): Scarlett & Nestea (Vote): Scarlett & Oz (Vote): Scarlett & Macsed (Vote): Nestea & Oz (Vote): Nestea & Macsed (Vote): Oz & Macsed
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On October 15 2013 22:08 Darkhoarse wrote: Oz time for real. Then someone else can get through too. Probably Scarlett.
I'm not so sure. Macsed plays an interesting style, and may catch an early advantage against Oz's traditional style. If Oz does beat Macsed (meh, 70% prob), he has to play the winner of Nestea vs. Scarlett. The last time I watched Scarlett vs. a Korean Zerg, she took JD to the last game where he yolo 6pooled. Her ZvZ is freaking good. That would put Oz against Scarlett, and she generally wins when they meet. Then Oz is relying on beating Nestea in a ZvP for his tourney life.
I'm still betting on Scarlett and Oz to make it through, but it's not the easiest group for Oz.
On October 15 2013 19:36 A Wild Sosd wrote: Nervous for Scarlett. I wonder how much she's practiced after her break. Anyone know if she's back in Korea?
One assumes she is in NA, since this is live in NA.
Now we lost Taeja, we can't afford to lost scarlett. And it would be so so awesome to see nestea in s3 final. And i am chinese, i wanna see macsed as well. And I always like Oz. What a group.
Scarlett starts in the round of 16 in America Premier facing Oz, NesTea, MacSed Scarlett loses this match 38.156% of the time, which decreases Scarlett's chances to 0.000%. Scarlett wins this match 61.844% of the time, which increases Scarlett's chances to 66.486%.
-------------------------------------------Scarlett gets 1st place in America Premier This happens 6.351% of the time. When it does, it increases Scarlett's chances to 100.000%.
-------------------------------------------Scarlett gets 4th place in America Premier This happens 17.139% of the time. When it does, it increases Scarlett's chances to 90.516%.
-------------------------------------------Scarlett gets 2nd place in America Premier This happens 9.192% of the time. When it does, it increases Scarlett's chances to 96.765%.
Oz starts in the round of 16 in America Premier facing Scarlett, NesTea, MacSed Oz loses this match 55.751% of the time, which decreases Oz's chances to 0.000%. Oz wins this match 44.249% of the time, which increases Oz's chances to 7.941%.
-------------------------------------------Oz gets 1st place in America Premier This happens 1.417% of the time. When it does, it increases Oz's chances to 63.949%.
-------------------------------------------Oz gets 4th place in America Premier This happens 12.082% of the time. When it does, it increases Oz's chances to 11.850%.
NesTea starts in the round of 16 in America Premier facing Oz, Scarlett, MacSed NesTea loses this match 50.005% of the time, which decreases NesTea's chances to 0.000%. NesTea wins this match 49.995% of the time, which increases NesTea's chances to 8.983%.
-------------------------------------------NesTea gets 1st place in America Premier This happens 6.249% of the time. When it does, it increases NesTea's chances to 24.830%.
-------------------------------------------NesTea gets 4th place in America Premier This happens 12.490% of the time. When it does, it increases NesTea's chances to 11.072%.
MacSed starts in the round of 16 in America Premier facing Oz, Scarlett, NesTea MacSed loses this match 52.612% of the time, which decreases MacSed's chances to 0.000%. MacSed wins this match 47.388% of the time, which increases MacSed's chances to 1.900%.
-------------------------------------------MacSed gets 1st place in America Premier This happens 0.901% of the time. When it does, it increases MacSed's chances to 19.192%.
-------------------------------------------MacSed gets 4th place in America Premier This happens 12.205% of the time. When it does, it increases MacSed's chances to 2.769%.
-------------------------------------------MacSed gets 8th place in America Premier This happens 30.895% of the time. When it does, it decreases MacSed's chances to 0.613%.
On October 15 2013 22:08 Darkhoarse wrote: Oz time for real. Then someone else can get through too. Probably Scarlett.
I'm not so sure. Macsed plays an interesting style, and may catch an early advantage against Oz's traditional style. If Oz does beat Macsed (meh, 70% prob), he has to play the winner of Nestea vs. Scarlett. The last time I watched Scarlett vs. a Korean Zerg, she took JD to the last game where he yolo 6pooled. Her ZvZ is freaking good. That would put Oz against Scarlett, and she generally wins when they meet. Then Oz is relying on beating Nestea in a ZvP for his tourney life.
I'm still betting on Scarlett and Oz to make it through, but it's not the easiest group for Oz.
You make good points and my statement about Oz was more of a heart pick I think Scarlett will win with hopefully Oz second.
On October 16 2013 03:19 ffadicted wrote: In the name of the great nani, I will be cheering as hard as possible against Scarlett today. Sorry...
Struggling to make sense of this.
guessing he's a naniwa fan who wants naniwa to be the "best foreigner" since most people think it's either naniwa or scarlett
but if you like foreigners wouldn't you rather they both be really good? i dunno
Or he's just a Naniwa fan who wants to see Nani at blizzcon. Scarlett doing good in WCS hurts Naniwa's chances. It doesn't have to be because of any "best foreigner sillyness".
Personally I really like both Scarlett AND Naniwa. If I had to choose who I want to see at blizzcon, it would probably be Naniwa though. However, if someone has to knock Naniwa out of top 16, I'd rather it be Scarlett than anyone else. Worst case scenario, neither Scarlett nor Naniwa makes it there, which is a pretty big possibility. Not sure what I'm rooting for or against tonight. I suppose it's best to just let whatever happens happen. It's out of our control anyway.
On October 16 2013 03:19 ffadicted wrote: In the name of the great nani, I will be cheering as hard as possible against Scarlett today. Sorry...
Struggling to make sense of this.
guessing he's a naniwa fan who wants naniwa to be the "best foreigner" since most people think it's either naniwa or scarlett
but if you like foreigners wouldn't you rather they both be really good? i dunno
Or he's just a Naniwa fan who wants to see Nani at blizzcon. Scarlett doing good in WCS hurts Naniwa's chances. It doesn't have to be because of any "best foreigner sillyness".
Personally I really like both Scarlett AND Naniwa. If I had to choose who I want to see at blizzcon, it would probably be Naniwa though. However, if someone has to knock Naniwa out of top 16, I'd rather it be Scarlett than anyone else. Worst case scenario, neither Scarlett nor Naniwa makes it there, which is a pretty big possibility. Not sure what I'm rooting for or against tonight. I suppose it's best to just let whatever happens happen. It's out of our control anyway.
Well this makes some kind of sense I suppose. I'd rather just see the foreigners who have a better chance than a snowball in a microwave against koreans do well period, they don't exactly grow on trees.
On October 16 2013 07:04 stuchiu wrote: I lost to Nestea on ladder yesterday. He crushed me. But then I won my next 5 ZvZs. Thank you for destroying me Nestea.
On October 16 2013 07:04 stuchiu wrote: I lost to Nestea on ladder yesterday. He crushed me. But then I won my next 5 ZvZs. Thank you for destroying me Nestea.
On October 16 2013 07:04 stuchiu wrote: I lost to Nestea on ladder yesterday. He crushed me. But then I won my next 5 ZvZs. Thank you for destroying me Nestea.
Nestea ladders on NA?
When he was in NA for this I think so. I could tell it was him because I begged for mercy and he smiled at me.
On October 16 2013 07:06 asongdotnet wrote: there's about 40 seats only so its going to be a bit small no matter what. and yes it's still freezing cold in here
WCS America is filmed live in front a frozen studio audience
Aight, I've had a grand total of 3 and half hours of sleep in the last 48 or so hours, sat through a 3 hour exam earlier today, haven't eaten anything apart from a banana, 4 muffins and about 5 liters of coke, I'm sitting here loaded with caffeine pills and a metric fuckton of hockey pictures and I am ready to fucking do this!
Any incoherence in previous statement is entirely due to rapid deterioration of higher brain functions.
On October 16 2013 07:08 Squat wrote: Aight, I've had a grand total of 3 and half hours of sleep in the last 48 or so hours, sat through a 3 hour exam earlier today, haven't eaten anything apart from a banana, 4 muffins and about 5 liters of coke, I'm sitting here loaded with caffeine pills and a metric fuckton of hockey pictures and I am ready to fucking do this!
Any incoherence in previous statement is entirely due to rapid deterioration of higher brain functions.
Seriously? The player booths are right behind the caster's desktops? I think it's quite obvious that Oz can see Rotterdam's screen, is it? They really need to fix it...
On October 16 2013 07:08 Squat wrote: Aight, I've had a grand total of 3 and half hours of sleep in the last 48 or so hours, sat through a 3 hour exam earlier today, haven't eaten anything apart from a banana, 4 muffins and about 5 liters of coke, I'm sitting here loaded with caffeine pills and a metric fuckton of hockey pictures and I am ready to fucking do this!
Any incoherence in previous statement is entirely due to rapid deterioration of higher brain functions.
dont die pls^^
I cannot allow myself to expire until Scarlett goes through in first place. Then, I can die in peace.
On October 16 2013 07:08 Squat wrote: Aight, I've had a grand total of 3 and half hours of sleep in the last 48 or so hours, sat through a 3 hour exam earlier today, haven't eaten anything apart from a banana, 4 muffins and about 5 liters of coke, I'm sitting here loaded with caffeine pills and a metric fuckton of hockey pictures and I am ready to fucking do this!
Any incoherence in previous statement is entirely due to rapid deterioration of higher brain functions.
dont die pls^^
I cannot allow myself to expire until Scarlett goes through in first place. Then, I can die in peace.
similar situation here, minus the exam and terrible diet!
On October 16 2013 07:08 Squat wrote: Aight, I've had a grand total of 3 and half hours of sleep in the last 48 or so hours, sat through a 3 hour exam earlier today, haven't eaten anything apart from a banana, 4 muffins and about 5 liters of coke, I'm sitting here loaded with caffeine pills and a metric fuckton of hockey pictures and I am ready to fucking do this!
Any incoherence in previous statement is entirely due to rapid deterioration of higher brain functions.
My story is pretty similar, only replace "exam" with "conscription summons".
Oh, and I don't have muffins. Mind sending some over to your neighbours across the sea?
On October 16 2013 07:08 Squat wrote: Aight, I've had a grand total of 3 and half hours of sleep in the last 48 or so hours, sat through a 3 hour exam earlier today, haven't eaten anything apart from a banana, 4 muffins and about 5 liters of coke, I'm sitting here loaded with caffeine pills and a metric fuckton of hockey pictures and I am ready to fucking do this!
Any incoherence in previous statement is entirely due to rapid deterioration of higher brain functions.
dont die pls^^
I cannot allow myself to expire until Scarlett goes through in first place. Then, I can die in peace.
similar situation here, minus the exam and terrible diet!
I am not sure it qualifies as an actual diet. It was pretty much "need blood sugar, naow".
On October 16 2013 07:08 Squat wrote: Aight, I've had a grand total of 3 and half hours of sleep in the last 48 or so hours, sat through a 3 hour exam earlier today, haven't eaten anything apart from a banana, 4 muffins and about 5 liters of coke, I'm sitting here loaded with caffeine pills and a metric fuckton of hockey pictures and I am ready to fucking do this!
Any incoherence in previous statement is entirely due to rapid deterioration of higher brain functions.
My story is pretty similar, only replace "exam" with "conscription summons".
Oh, and I don't have muffins. Mind sending some over to your neighbours across the sea?
I shall arrange for muffins and complimentary hockey pics.
Oz spawns in the top left MacSed spawns in the bottom right
1:00 Both players getting a 13 gateway -> 15 assimilator
2:00 MacSed building a second assimilator before gateway is finished. Both players start a cybernetics core. Oz starts a second assimilator after the cybernetics core.
3:00 Oz getting a stalker before a zealot. MacSed building a second gateway.
4:00 Oz making a mothership core. Both players getting warp gate research. Oz building a nexus at his natural. Oz starts a sentry.
5:00 MacSed building a twilight council. Oz building a robotics facility. Both players building another gateway. MacSed researching blink.
Oh what the hell. Why did I keep thinking it was Revival and not Oz?? I thought he looked radically different, but still insisted it was Revival. I kept thinking it was Revival, even when they repeatedly said it was PvP. Pretty sure they explicitly called him by his name Oz a few times, but my mind apparently managed to ignore those. I don't understand...
Maybe I should just give up, sleep, and retain my sanity.
Oz spawns in the top left MacSed spawns in the bottom right
1:00 Both players getting a 13 gateway -> 15 assimilator
2:00 MacSed building a second assimilator before gateway is finished. Both players start a cybernetics core. Oz starts a second assimilator after the cybernetics core.
3:00 Oz getting a stalker before a zealot. MacSed building a second gateway.
4:00 Oz making a mothership core. Both players getting warp gate research. Oz building a nexus at his natural. Oz starts a sentry.
5:00 MacSed building a twilight council. Oz building a robotics facility. Both players building another gateway. MacSed researching blink.
6:00 Oz 42 vs MacSed 38 MacSed putting on aggression with stalkers. Oz building an immortal. Oz retreats his probes to his main.
7:00 Oz 54 vs MacSed 46 MacSed moving his stalkers to blink into the main. MacSed blinks in but loses a lot of stalkers to great FF's and immortals. MacSed trying again.
8:00 Oz 56 vs MacSed 48 MacSed blinks in and kills a sentry then retreats. MacSed trying an attack with zealot support into the natural. Oz puts a photon overcharge on the natural nexus. Oz loses an immortal.
9:00 Oz 69 vs MacSed 44 Oz killing the rocks outside his natural. Oz splitting his forces to deal with MacSed blinking into the main. MacSed blinks into the natural and kills two immortals and a sentry.
10:00 Oz 66 vs MacSed 47 Oz moves his units into the third base where MacSed is. MacSed blinks into the main but Oz sends units back. MacSed retreats into waiting units of Oz. MacSed GGs! Oz takes a 1-0 lead.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
67%
★★★ - Good game (2)
22%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
11%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Oz vs Macsed: Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On October 16 2013 07:20 andilaama wrote: Oh what the hell. Why did I keep thinking it was Revival and not Oz?? I thought he looked radically different, but still insisted it was Revival. I kept thinking it was Revival, even when they repeatedly said it was PvP. Pretty sure they explicitly called him by his name Oz a few times, but my mind apparently managed to ignore those. I don't understand...
Maybe I should just give up, sleep, and retain my sanity.
On October 16 2013 07:13 The_Templar wrote: The casters are aware that every player in this group could potentially go to blizzcon right?
if oz wins AM his chances go up to 63%, nestea and macsed would only have like a 20% chance if they win AM
if any of them win the season finals they're clinched for blizzcon I think
yeah but bitter was focusing on oz and how he has the most to gain from winning AM (well obviously it's important for scarlett, but out of the three dark horses this bracket is most important for oz)
On October 16 2013 07:20 andilaama wrote: Oh what the hell. Why did I keep thinking it was Revival and not Oz?? I thought he looked radically different, but still insisted it was Revival. I kept thinking it was Revival, even when they repeatedly said it was PvP. Pretty sure they explicitly called him by his name Oz a few times, but my mind apparently managed to ignore those. I don't understand...
Maybe I should just give up, sleep, and retain my sanity.
I really like that Rotti says "I'm not sure what triggered it" instead of "that was a mistake". Shows respect to the players, and makes him look good in that he's not all-knowing.
On October 16 2013 07:08 Squat wrote: Aight, I've had a grand total of 3 and half hours of sleep in the last 48 or so hours, sat through a 3 hour exam earlier today, haven't eaten anything apart from a banana, 4 muffins and about 5 liters of coke, I'm sitting here loaded with caffeine pills and a metric fuckton of hockey pictures and I am ready to fucking do this!
Any incoherence in previous statement is entirely due to rapid deterioration of higher brain functions.
My story is pretty similar, only replace "exam" with "conscription summons".
Oh, and I don't have muffins. Mind sending some over to your neighbours across the sea?
I shall arrange for muffins and complimentary hockey pics.
WCS NA feels so slow paced compared to the other regions. Talk about the games, into a single game, into some videos, into break (and even the countdown is removed), into some more talk and then game 2.
Having the entire bo3 without breaks is so much better imo, this isn't enjoyable unless I do something meanwhile (like whine on TL :D)
On October 16 2013 07:25 DJHelium wrote: I really like that Rotti says "I'm not sure what triggered it" instead of "that was a mistake". Shows respect to the players, and makes him look good in that he's not all-knowing.
I agree. One of the things that bugs me about Day9's casting (for example) is that he always says "that was a huge mistake" "x just made a really bad play" "horrible, fateful error" etc.
On October 16 2013 07:28 DJHelium wrote: WCS NA feels so slow paced compared to the other regions. Talk about the games, into a single game, into some videos, into break (and even the countdown is removed), into some more talk and then game 2.
Having the entire bo3 without breaks is so much better imo, this isn't enjoyable unless I do something meanwhile (like whine on TL :D)
On October 16 2013 07:28 DJHelium wrote: WCS NA feels so slow paced compared to the other regions. Talk about the games, into a single game, into some videos, into break (and even the countdown is removed), into some more talk and then game 2.
Having the entire bo3 without breaks is so much better imo, this isn't enjoyable unless I do something meanwhile (like whine on TL :D)
I agree.
I agree with you agreeing; as I also agree. Agreed.
On October 16 2013 07:08 Squat wrote: Aight, I've had a grand total of 3 and half hours of sleep in the last 48 or so hours, sat through a 3 hour exam earlier today, haven't eaten anything apart from a banana, 4 muffins and about 5 liters of coke, I'm sitting here loaded with caffeine pills and a metric fuckton of hockey pictures and I am ready to fucking do this!
Any incoherence in previous statement is entirely due to rapid deterioration of higher brain functions.
My story is pretty similar, only replace "exam" with "conscription summons".
Oh, and I don't have muffins. Mind sending some over to your neighbours across the sea?
I shall arrange for muffins and complimentary hockey pics.
On October 16 2013 07:28 DJHelium wrote: WCS NA feels so slow paced compared to the other regions. Talk about the games, into a single game, into some videos, into break (and even the countdown is removed), into some more talk and then game 2.
Having the entire bo3 without breaks is so much better imo, this isn't enjoyable unless I do something meanwhile (like whine on TL :D)
I agree.
I agree with you agreeing; as I also agree. Agreed.
Affirmative!
What's kinda bumming me out is that it sounds like there are only like 3 people in the audience clapping...
Oz spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:00 Both players getting a 13 gateway. MacSed scouting after gateway.
2:00 MacSed building 2 assimilators. Oz only making one assimilator initially. Both players building a cybernetics core.
3:00 MacSed building a second gateway. Oz chronoboosting a stalker. Both players researching warp gate.
4:00 Both players building a mothership core. Oz expanding. MacSed building 2 stalkers. Oz building a robotics facility.
5:00 MacSed pressuring with a stalker. MacSed proxying a stargate. MacSed sending his mothership core. Two more stalkers arrive in Oz's natural.
6:00 Oz 44 vs MacSed 37 Oz moves his units into his natural expansion to chase off the pressure. MacSed making an oracle. MacSed lands a time warp. Oz moving his stalker back to intercept MacSed's oracle.
7:00 Oz 52 vs MacSed 45 MacSed escapes with the oracle. Oz still producing immortals. MacSed switching to voidrays. MacSed still camping outside Oz's natural
8:00 Oz 64 vs MacSed 57 Oz has 4 sentries. Oz hallucinating a phoenix but not seeing much. MacSed attacking with void rays but Oz manages to hold it off with force fields and photon overcharge.
9:00 Oz 62 vs MacSed 62 Oz producing more stalkers, MacSed making zealots. MacSed still producing void rays. MacSed still has no expansion, Oz still on two bases.
10:00 Oz 74 vs MacSed 72 MacSed attacking Oz's natural expansion. Oz attacking zealots with immortals. Void rays kill all the stalkers. Oz pulls probes.
11:00 Oz 37 vs MacSed 44 Oz loses all his immortals. Oz attempting to kill individual units with stalkers and probes. MacSed has free rein of Oz's natural expansion.
Oz spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:00 Both players getting a 13 gateway. MacSed scouting after gateway.
2:00 MacSed building 2 assimilators. Oz only making one assimilator initially. Both players building a cybernetics core.
3:00 MacSed building a second gateway. Oz chronoboosting a stalker. Both players researching warp gate.
4:00 Both players building a mothership core. Oz expanding. MacSed building 2 stalkers. Oz building a robotics facility.
5:00 MacSed pressuring with a stalker. MacSed proxying a stargate. MacSed sending his mothership core. Two more stalkers arrive in Oz's natural.
6:00 Oz 44 vs MacSed 37 Oz moves his units into his natural expansion to chase off the pressure. MacSed making an oracle. MacSed lands a time warp. Oz moving his stalker back to intercept MacSed's oracle.
7:00 Oz 52 vs MacSed 45 MacSed escapes with the oracle. Oz still producing immortals. MacSed switching to voidrays. MacSed still camping outside Oz's natural
8:00 Oz 64 vs MacSed 57 Oz has 4 sentries. Oz hallucinating a phoenix but not seeing much. MacSed attacking with void rays but Oz manages to hold it off with force fields and photon overcharge.
9:00 Oz 62 vs MacSed 62 Oz producing more stalkers, MacSed making zealots. MacSed still producing void rays. MacSed still has no expansion, Oz still on two bases.
10:00 Oz 74 vs MacSed 72 MacSed attacking Oz's natural expansion. Oz attacking zealots with immortals. Void rays kill all the stalkers. Oz pulls probes.
11:00 Oz 37 vs MacSed 44 Oz loses all his immortals. Oz attempting to kill individual units with stalkers and probes. MacSed has free rein of Oz's natural expansion.
12:00 Oz 36 vs MacSed 47 Oz producing more stalkers. MacSed losing more units to Oz.
13:00 Oz 38 vs MacSed 51 MacSed finally expands. MacSed kills the natural of Oz. Oz still warping in units in his main base.
14:00 Oz vs MacSed Oz moves down to the natural and kills the void ray. Oz attempts to retreat but MacSed force fields his main ramp. Oz GG's. MacSed ties it up 1-1.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Scarlett vs Nestea: Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Scarlett vs Nestea: Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
40%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
20%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Oz vs Macsed: Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
50%
★★★ - Good game (2)
20%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
10%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
10%
10 total votes
Your vote: Oz vs Macsed: Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Oz spawns in the bottom left MacSed spawns in the top right
1:00 MacSed getting a 10 gate followed by one gas. Oz going for a normal 13 gateway.
2:00 Oz getting 2 assimilators. MacSed building a zealot. Both players making cybernetics core.
3:00 MacSed building a stalker. MacSed researching warp gate. MacSed getting 2 more gateways still on one gas.
4:00 Oz getting a mothership core. Oz building 2 more gateways for his own. MacSed proxying a pylon outside Oz's natural while pressuring.
5:00 Oz getting a 4th defensive gateway. MacSed marches into Oz's main and kills the mothership core and some probes before warpgate finishes.
6:00 Oz 29 vs MacSed 40 MacSed nearly kills an artosis pylon but doesn't. Oz pulls all his probes and attacks the stalkers of MacSed. Oz losing everything. Oz GG's! MacSed wins 2-1!
On October 16 2013 07:47 Ygritte wrote: how do you lose against 3 gate when you are doing a 4 gate? sadly the casters were too busy talking about something else
You don't chrono your warp gate when your opponent does. Macsed's was done much earlier.
On October 16 2013 07:47 Ygritte wrote: how do you lose against 3 gate when you are doing a 4 gate? sadly the casters were too busy talking about something else
what are you talking about? they mentioned the defensive 4gate before the engagement
On October 16 2013 07:48 Fjodorov wrote: Is it MacSed who plays odd style of PvT with phoenix and colossus?
Jim also plays that style. It's kind of a Chinese adaptation of having lag on the KR server and not being able to employ storms effectively. Isn't that something?
Hey everyone sorry for my noobieness, but I'm kind of confused and i couldn't find a good article on the structure of wcs this year.
So if you come in top 6 of your region do you go to Toronto? I thought it was the top 4 originally but i heard one of these casters say something else now im confused.. Who exactly gets to go Toronto? Also, what point is the point of no return because i thought i heard them say that you could lose but still go to Toronto and get like 1500 points or something, or was that the whole having to be top 6 in the region?
Also how exactly did these players qualify for this? Was it like an invitation from Blizzard or qualify from last year or something? Say you're a new player on the scene how do they get into these if they're not really heard of, also is there no limit to the amount of Koreans in a region, because like you're playing WCS EU or AM and its like 70% Koreans so do the players just get to choose at the start of the year?
Again sorry for being a noob lol, fairly new in the SC scene. Thanks in advance ^.^
Maced vs Oz I thought was actually pretty good. Exciting at least for the cheese. I mean PvP stuff happens early game, I thought it was kind of expected.
On October 16 2013 07:47 Ygritte wrote: how do you lose against 3 gate when you are doing a 4 gate? sadly the casters were too busy talking about something else
what are you talking about? they mentioned the defensive 4gate before the engagement
i am talking about that they did not mention warpgate reasearch timings and anticipating what is going to happen while warpgate was researching.
On October 16 2013 07:50 Fhiz wrote: Hey everyone sorry for my noobieness, but I'm kind of confused and i couldn't find a good article on the structure of wcs this year.
So if you come in top 6 of your region do you go to Toronto? I thought it was the top 4 originally but i heard one of these casters say something else now im confused.. Who exactly gets to go Toronto? Also, what point is the point of no return because i thought i heard them say that you could lose but still go to Toronto and get like 1500 points or something, or was that the whole having to be top 6 in the region?
Also how exactly did these players qualify for this? Was it like an invitation from Blizzard or qualify from last year or something? Say you're a new player on the scene how do they get into these if they're not really heard of, also is there no limit to the amount of Koreans in a region, because like you're playing WCS EU or AM and its like 70% Koreans so do the players just get to choose at the start of the year?
Again sorry for being a noob lol, fairly new in the SC scene. Thanks in advance ^.^
5 from EU, 5 from KR and 6 from AM. The host region got 1 extra spot.
On October 16 2013 07:50 Fhiz wrote: Hey everyone sorry for my noobieness, but I'm kind of confused and i couldn't find a good article on the structure of wcs this year.
So if you come in top 6 of your region do you go to Toronto? I thought it was the top 4 originally but i heard one of these casters say something else now im confused.. Who exactly gets to go Toronto? Also, what point is the point of no return because i thought i heard them say that you could lose but still go to Toronto and get like 1500 points or something, or was that the whole having to be top 6 in the region?
Also how exactly did these players qualify for this? Was it like an invitation from Blizzard or qualify from last year or something? Say you're a new player on the scene how do they get into these if they're not really heard of, also is there no limit to the amount of Koreans in a region, because like you're playing WCS EU or AM and its like 70% Koreans so do the players just get to choose at the start of the year?
Again sorry for being a noob lol, fairly new in the SC scene. Thanks in advance ^.^
Since Toronto is in the Americas, WCS AM is the host region this season. As such, they get 6 of the 16 spots at the season finals.
WCS Korea and WCS EU get only 5 spots each. Making the top 4 of each region gets a player a spot to the Season finals, but the Ro8 losers still play for that final spot (or 2, for WCS AM).
On October 16 2013 07:50 Fhiz wrote: Hey everyone sorry for my noobieness, but I'm kind of confused and i couldn't find a good article on the structure of wcs this year.
So if you come in top 6 of your region do you go to Toronto? I thought it was the top 4 originally but i heard one of these casters say something else now im confused.. Who exactly gets to go Toronto? Also, what point is the point of no return because i thought i heard them say that you could lose but still go to Toronto and get like 1500 points or something, or was that the whole having to be top 6 in the region?
Also how exactly did these players qualify for this? Was it like an invitation from Blizzard or qualify from last year or something? Say you're a new player on the scene how do they get into these if they're not really heard of, also is there no limit to the amount of Koreans in a region, because like you're playing WCS EU or AM and its like 70% Koreans so do the players just get to choose at the start of the year?
Again sorry for being a noob lol, fairly new in the SC scene. Thanks in advance ^.^
-Top 5 of each region go to season finals. -Top 6 of whichever region is hosting the season finals goes. -There are qualifiers into challenger league, where you play several series against either people from premier league or other qualifiers, if you lose this there's a group stage as well. You can get knocked out of challenger league.
On October 16 2013 07:50 Fhiz wrote: Hey everyone sorry for my noobieness, but I'm kind of confused and i couldn't find a good article on the structure of wcs this year.
So if you come in top 6 of your region do you go to Toronto? I thought it was the top 4 originally but i heard one of these casters say something else now im confused.. Who exactly gets to go Toronto? Also, what point is the point of no return because i thought i heard them say that you could lose but still go to Toronto and get like 1500 points or something, or was that the whole having to be top 6 in the region?
Also how exactly did these players qualify for this? Was it like an invitation from Blizzard or qualify from last year or something? Say you're a new player on the scene how do they get into these if they're not really heard of, also is there no limit to the amount of Koreans in a region, because like you're playing WCS EU or AM and its like 70% Koreans so do the players just get to choose at the start of the year?
Again sorry for being a noob lol, fairly new in the SC scene. Thanks in advance ^.^
Hey man. Top 6 from the American region go to Toronto because it is the host region. In EU and Korea, top 5 go. You get points from playing in this and the season finals in Toronto. The players in this qualified through various means, except for a select few that were invited by Blizzard.
On October 16 2013 07:50 Fhiz wrote: Hey everyone sorry for my noobieness, but I'm kind of confused and i couldn't find a good article on the structure of wcs this year.
So if you come in top 6 of your region do you go to Toronto? I thought it was the top 4 originally but i heard one of these casters say something else now im confused.. Who exactly gets to go Toronto? Also, what point is the point of no return because i thought i heard them say that you could lose but still go to Toronto and get like 1500 points or something, or was that the whole having to be top 6 in the region?
Also how exactly did these players qualify for this? Was it like an invitation from Blizzard or qualify from last year or something? Say you're a new player on the scene how do they get into these if they're not really heard of, also is there no limit to the amount of Koreans in a region, because like you're playing WCS EU or AM and its like 70% Koreans so do the players just get to choose at the start of the year?
Again sorry for being a noob lol, fairly new in the SC scene. Thanks in advance ^.^
each region that holds the seasonal finals(this time it's AM) gets an extra player at the season final(top 6, placement matches are played out which determine this) for every other region its top 5 There were invites for premier and then qualifiers for premier and challenger league. After these 3 seasons is Blizzcon which is the players with the top 16 most points
Time for Scarlett Vs Nestea!!! I kind of hope Scarlett loses this, because I feel if Nestea loses this one he won't make it through but then... I don't want Scarlett to lose either? AHHHHHH
On October 16 2013 07:50 Fhiz wrote: Hey everyone sorry for my noobieness, but I'm kind of confused and i couldn't find a good article on the structure of wcs this year.
So if you come in top 6 of your region do you go to Toronto? I thought it was the top 4 originally but i heard one of these casters say something else now im confused.. Who exactly gets to go Toronto? Also, what point is the point of no return because i thought i heard them say that you could lose but still go to Toronto and get like 1500 points or something, or was that the whole having to be top 6 in the region?
Also how exactly did these players qualify for this? Was it like an invitation from Blizzard or qualify from last year or something? Say you're a new player on the scene how do they get into these if they're not really heard of, also is there no limit to the amount of Koreans in a region, because like you're playing WCS EU or AM and its like 70% Koreans so do the players just get to choose at the start of the year?
Again sorry for being a noob lol, fairly new in the SC scene. Thanks in advance ^.^
16 players qualify for season finals. 6 from the hosting region (AM this season!) and 5 from each of the others.
There are qualifiers for challenger league, and then you'll be able to qualify from there into premier league. There were some invites for season 1.
There is no limit to the amount of koreans. However, you can't freely change regions between each season. Players could change one time this year, probably because it was the first year.
So no one really has any use for WCS points in this group but Scarlett? I mean Oz if he wins AM finals/and season finals could make it but really they're all just playing spoiler
Well that blizzcon spot is easy pickings if Scarlett keeps on matching with old relics and new up and comers. God I wish Taeja and JD were in this group. Then it would actually be watchable.
On October 16 2013 08:05 MrLightning wrote: Well that blizzcon spot is easy pickings if Scarlett keeps on matching with old relics and new up and comers. God I wish Taeja and JD were in this group. Then it would actually be watchable.
On October 16 2013 08:02 The_Templar wrote: How dare they suggest Nestea is even close to MC in presidential ability.
Nestea more of a dictator he isn't in to the MC democracy
Think about this very carefully. When did we vote for MC? When was the election? Who was he running against? He was a president the same way Vlad Putin is President. We just woke up one day and he declared himself the president of Protoss and we just bought it.
On October 16 2013 08:02 The_Templar wrote: How dare they suggest Nestea is even close to MC in presidential ability.
Nestea more of a dictator he isn't in to the MC democracy
Think about this very carefully. When did we vote for MC? When was the election? Who was he running against? He was a president the same way Vlad Putin is President. We just woke up one day and he declared himself the president of Protoss and we just bought it.
We elect MC back into office every few months though
On October 16 2013 08:05 MrLightning wrote: Well that blizzcon spot is easy pickings if Scarlett keeps on matching with old relics and new up and comers. God I wish Taeja and JD were in this group. Then it would actually be watchable.
Oz and Macsed not good enough now? Why would you want the best players to eliminate one anther in the Ro32?
On October 16 2013 08:05 MrLightning wrote: Well that blizzcon spot is easy pickings if Scarlett keeps on matching with old relics and new up and comers. God I wish Taeja and JD were in this group. Then it would actually be watchable.
i would rather see the best matchups at the end of the tournament... that's typically how tournaments work as i understand it
On October 16 2013 08:02 The_Templar wrote: How dare they suggest Nestea is even close to MC in presidential ability.
Nestea more of a dictator he isn't in to the MC democracy
Think about this very carefully. When did we vote for MC? When was the election? Who was he running against? He was a president the same way Vlad Putin is President. We just woke up one day and he declared himself the president of Protoss and we just bought it.
Genius tried to run against him and there was a bad smear campaign launched by MC . I think there was some election fraud.
On October 16 2013 08:02 The_Templar wrote: How dare they suggest Nestea is even close to MC in presidential ability.
Nestea more of a dictator he isn't in to the MC democracy
Think about this very carefully. When did we vote for MC? When was the election? Who was he running against? He was a president the same way Vlad Putin is President. We just woke up one day and he declared himself the president of Protoss and we just bought it.
We elect MC back into office every few months though
Look at his opponents. Seed? Parting? Creator? All dead. The only reason Rain can't win anything is because MC will cripple him if he gets above his station.
On October 16 2013 08:02 The_Templar wrote: How dare they suggest Nestea is even close to MC in presidential ability.
Nestea more of a dictator he isn't in to the MC democracy
Think about this very carefully. When did we vote for MC? When was the election? Who was he running against? He was a president the same way Vlad Putin is President. We just woke up one day and he declared himself the president of Protoss and we just bought it.
We elect MC back into office every few months though
Look at his opponents. Seed? Parting? Creator? All dead. The only reason Rain can't win anything is because MC will cripple him if he gets above his station.
Nonsense. Look at Huk. His chances vs Scarletts. This group is simply the most tilted towards one player. I have actually never seen such an unfair group.
On October 16 2013 08:02 The_Templar wrote: How dare they suggest Nestea is even close to MC in presidential ability.
Nestea more of a dictator he isn't in to the MC democracy
Think about this very carefully. When did we vote for MC? When was the election? Who was he running against? He was a president the same way Vlad Putin is President. We just woke up one day and he declared himself the president of Protoss and we just bought it.
We elect MC back into office every few months though
Look at his opponents. Seed? Parting? Creator? All dead. The only reason Rain can't win anything is because MC will cripple him if he gets above his station.
HerO and the Swedish challenger.
Hero is allowed 1 month each year to come out of hell. Naniwa has been given the kingdom of a small European nation.
On October 16 2013 08:09 MrLightning wrote: Nonsense. Look at Huk. His chances vs Scarletts. This group is simply the most tilted towards one player. I have actually never seen such an unfair group.
scarlett is far better than huk
edit: so what are you saying? the best players should always eliminate each other? so PUNISH the best players for being good instead of rewarding them?
On October 16 2013 08:09 MrLightning wrote: Nonsense. Look at Huk. His chances vs Scarletts. This group is simply the most tilted towards one player. I have actually never seen such an unfair group.
What the hell are you talking about? Scarlett is the favorite but you're acting like Oz, Nestea, and Macsed are scrubs. When did you start watching SC2?
On October 16 2013 08:09 MrLightning wrote: Nonsense. Look at Huk. His chances vs Scarletts. This group is simply the most tilted towards one player. I have actually never seen such an unfair group.
What the hell are you talking about? Scarlett is the favorite but you're acting like Oz, Nestea, and Macsed are scrubs. When did you start watching SC2?
On October 16 2013 08:02 The_Templar wrote: How dare they suggest Nestea is even close to MC in presidential ability.
Nestea more of a dictator he isn't in to the MC democracy
Think about this very carefully. When did we vote for MC? When was the election? Who was he running against? He was a president the same way Vlad Putin is President. We just woke up one day and he declared himself the president of Protoss and we just bought it.
We elect MC back into office every few months though
Look at his opponents. Seed? Parting? Creator? All dead. The only reason Rain can't win anything is because MC will cripple him if he gets above his station.
HerO and the Swedish challenger.
Hero is allowed 1 month each year to come out of hell. Naniwa has been given the kingdom of a small European nation.
HerO will eventually escape MC's reign and become his successor
On October 16 2013 08:09 MrLightning wrote: Nonsense. Look at Huk. His chances vs Scarletts. This group is simply the most tilted towards one player. I have actually never seen such an unfair group.
What the hell are you talking about? Scarlett is the favorite but you're acting like Oz, Nestea, and Macsed are scrubs. When did you start watching SC2?
Are you watching the stream right now?!?!?!!?
Congrats one game! Good job! The part where Oz 2-0d Scarlett LAST SEASON is one of the many reasons that you're wrong.
On October 16 2013 08:09 MrLightning wrote: Nonsense. Look at Huk. His chances vs Scarletts. This group is simply the most tilted towards one player. I have actually never seen such an unfair group.
What the hell are you talking about? Scarlett is the favorite but you're acting like Oz, Nestea, and Macsed are scrubs. When did you start watching SC2?
Are you watching the stream right now?!?!?!!?
Congrats one game! Good job! The part where Oz 2-0d Scarlett LAST SEASON is one of the many reasons that you're wrong.
Right, the same Oz who will probably lose to NesTea now and never even get to see Scarlett, good point.
Scarlett spawns in the bottom right Nestea spawns in the top left
1:00 Nestea 9 pools. Scarlett making a normally timed spawning pool before gas or a hatchery.
2:00 Nestea making 6 zerglings. Scarlett building a hatchery. Nestea getting an extractor and more zerglings.
3:00 Scarlett building zerglings. Nestea attacking the hatchery of Scarlett. Nestea cancels the natural of scarlett. Nestea building more zerglings.
4:00 Nestea building a baneling nest! Scarlett making more drones and getting zergling speed.
5:00 Nestea making his banelings. Nestea moves banelings and zerglings into the main but kills nearly nothing.
6:00 Scarlett 32 vs NesTea 30 Nestea has one zergling. Nestea researching zergling speed. Scarlett has zergling speed and banelings.
7:00 Scarlett 42 vs NesTea 32 Scarlett sending banelings clear across the map and loses 2 of them immediately. Scarlett expanding.
8:00 Scarlett 42 vs NesTea 40 Scarlett moving into Nestea's main and doing damage. Nestea loses both queens but pushes Scarlett back.
9:00 Scarlett 42 vs NesTea 33 Scarlett moving in for another attack but Nestea controls perfectly and minimizes his losses. Scarlett getting a lair. Scarlett moving a baneling around Nestea's main base.
10:00 Scarlett 52 vs NesTea 39 Scarlett making a spire. Nestea has taken his expansion.
On October 16 2013 08:14 Aunvilgod wrote: Is Mr Bitter trying to hit on Scarlett or whats up with the compliments. I mean she is playing well and all but this is getting out of control. o.O
he's a zerg player, all zergs are in love with scarlett
On October 16 2013 08:14 Aunvilgod wrote: Is Mr Bitter trying to hit on Scarlett or whats up with the compliments. I mean she is playing well and all but this is getting out of control. o.O
You never hear him cast Elfi before? He always casts like this for foreigners he is biased to.
On October 16 2013 08:09 MrLightning wrote: Nonsense. Look at Huk. His chances vs Scarletts. This group is simply the most tilted towards one player. I have actually never seen such an unfair group.
What the hell are you talking about? Scarlett is the favorite but you're acting like Oz, Nestea, and Macsed are scrubs. When did you start watching SC2?
Are you watching the stream right now?!?!?!!?
Congrats one game! Good job! The part where Oz 2-0d Scarlett LAST SEASON is one of the many reasons that you're wrong.
Right, the same Oz who will probably lose to NesTea now and never even get to see Scarlett, good point.
Alright man whatever Scarlett is going to win this group but it is not nearly as unbalanced as you think. The other players in this group are good.
On October 16 2013 08:14 Aunvilgod wrote: Is Mr Bitter trying to hit on Scarlett or whats up with the compliments. I mean she is playing well and all but this is getting out of control. o.O
Bitter is known for his bias of foreign zergs, meh I don't mind it so much
feel like i'm the only one in the world who doesn't care about casters being "biased"
same way in real sports when someone complains an announcer is biased for the home team, i just don't care. people are people and they like who they like! as long as their casting is good it doesn't matter
Scarlett spawns in the bottom right Nestea spawns in the top left
1:00 Nestea 9 pools. Scarlett making a normally timed spawning pool before gas or a hatchery.
2:00 Nestea making 6 zerglings. Scarlett building a hatchery. Nestea getting an extractor and more zerglings.
3:00 Scarlett building zerglings. Nestea attacking the hatchery of Scarlett. Nestea cancels the natural of scarlett. Nestea building more zerglings.
4:00 Nestea building a baneling nest! Scarlett making more drones and getting zergling speed.
5:00 Nestea making his banelings. Nestea moves banelings and zerglings into the main but kills nearly nothing.
6:00 Scarlett 32 vs NesTea 30 Nestea has one zergling. Nestea researching zergling speed. Scarlett has zergling speed and banelings.
7:00 Scarlett 42 vs NesTea 32 Scarlett sending banelings clear across the map and loses 2 of them immediately. Scarlett expanding.
8:00 Scarlett 42 vs NesTea 40 Scarlett moving into Nestea's main and doing damage. Nestea loses both queens but pushes Scarlett back.
9:00 Scarlett 42 vs NesTea 33 Scarlett moving in for another attack but Nestea controls perfectly and minimizes his losses. Scarlett getting a lair. Scarlett moving a baneling around Nestea's main base.
10:00 Scarlett 52 vs NesTea 39 Scarlett making a spire. Nestea has taken his expansion.
11:00 Scarlett 60 vs NesTea 46 Nestea getting a lair. Nestea sees Scarlett moving towards her third base.
12:00 Scarlett 71 vs NesTea 57 Nestea getting a spire. Nestea sees Scarlett's third base. Scarlett looking to be aggressive but Nestea controls super well.
13:00 Scarlett 89 vs NesTea 59 Scarlett kills banelings with mutalisks. Nestea is reduced to one queen. Nestea producing 10 mutalisks. Scarlett cancels the third base of Nestea.
14:00 Scarlett 102 vs NesTea 75 Nestea gets mutalisks out and starts killing zerglings but taps out. Scarlett takes a 1-0 lead.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
18%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
14%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
9%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
5%
22 total votes
Your vote: Scarlett vs Nestea: Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On October 16 2013 08:17 Waise wrote: feel like i'm the only one in the world who doesn't care about casters being "biased"
same way in real sports when someone complains an announcer is biased for the home team, i just don't care. people are people and they like who they like! as long as their casting is good it doesn't matter
I agree. I saw that clip of MonteCristo cheering for SKT1 at LoL worlds, and think it's hilarious. As long as the bias doesn't go negatively towards the other player.
That game 2 vs TheSTC was sick, I don't think many players would be so decisive as Nestea in that situation, showing some brilliance.
On October 16 2013 08:17 Waise wrote: feel like i'm the only one in the world who doesn't care about casters being "biased"
same way in real sports when someone complains an announcer is biased for the home team, i just don't care. people are people and they like who they like! as long as their casting is good it doesn't matter
I agree. I saw that clip of MonteCristo cheering for SKT1 at LoL worlds, and think it's hilarious. As long as the bias doesn't go negatively towards the other player.
That game 2 vs TheSTC was sick, I don't think many players would be so decisive as Nestea in that situation, showing some brilliance.
On October 16 2013 08:17 Waise wrote: feel like i'm the only one in the world who doesn't care about casters being "biased"
same way in real sports when someone complains an announcer is biased for the home team, i just don't care. people are people and they like who they like! as long as their casting is good it doesn't matter
I agree. I saw that clip of MonteCristo cheering for SKT1 at LoL worlds, and think it's hilarious. As long as the bias doesn't go negatively towards the other player.
That game 2 vs TheSTC was sick, I don't think many players would be so decisive as Nestea in that situation, showing some brilliance.
faker-senpai pls stop~~
Everyone can't resist cheering for Faker. How can you stay neutral?
On October 16 2013 08:17 Waise wrote: feel like i'm the only one in the world who doesn't care about casters being "biased"
same way in real sports when someone complains an announcer is biased for the home team, i just don't care. people are people and they like who they like! as long as their casting is good it doesn't matter
it can go way overboard
there are some people in german football commentary i just hate because they're biased as fuck
Scarlett spawns in the top right Nestea spawns in the top left
1:00 Nestea going 9 pool with one extractor. Scarlett not making a spawning pool.
2:00 Scarlett expanding. Nestea making zerglings. Scarlett starts a spawning pool. Nestea getting zergling speed.
3:00 Scarlett getting 6 zerglings. Nestea has a queen. Nestea building 10 zerglings.
4:00 Nestea moving out with 20+ zerglings before speed starts. Scarlett making a third queen and blocking her ramp. Nestea moving into the natural.
5:00 Nestea attacks the natural expansion but it's protected. Scarlett loses a spine crawler after transfusing it twice.
6:00 Scarlett 39 vs NesTea 28 Nestea still making zerglings. Scarlett well prepared for any more pressure with extra zerglings. Nestea expanding and getting drones.
7:00 Scarlett 52 vs NesTea 34 Scarlett making lots of drones. Scarlett getting +1 missile attack.
8:00 Scarlett 52 vs NesTea 40 Scarlett getting a lair. Nestea making only drones and an extractor. Nestea poking at the natural but Scarlett is well prepared with queens and zerglings behind.
9:00 Scarlett 68 vs NesTea 49 Nestea getting a baneling nest and a roach warren. Scarlett researching zergling speed. Scarlett taking a third base.
10:00 Scarlett 83 vs NesTea 69 Scarlett sends in an overseer but sees not very much. Nestea producing roaches. Scarlett getting roach speed and +2 roach attack.
Scarlett spawns in the top right Nestea spawns in the top left
1:00 Nestea going 9 pool with one extractor. Scarlett not making a spawning pool.
2:00 Scarlett expanding. Nestea making zerglings. Scarlett starts a spawning pool. Nestea getting zergling speed.
3:00 Scarlett getting 6 zerglings. Nestea has a queen. Nestea building 10 zerglings.
4:00 Nestea moving out with 20+ zerglings before speed starts. Scarlett making a third queen and blocking her ramp. Nestea moving into the natural.
5:00 Nestea attacks the natural expansion but it's protected. Scarlett loses a spine crawler after transfusing it twice.
6:00 Scarlett 39 vs NesTea 28 Nestea still making zerglings. Scarlett well prepared for any more pressure with extra zerglings. Nestea expanding and getting drones.
7:00 Scarlett 52 vs NesTea 34 Scarlett making lots of drones. Scarlett getting +1 missile attack.
8:00 Scarlett 52 vs NesTea 40 Scarlett getting a lair. Nestea making only drones and an extractor. Nestea poking at the natural but Scarlett is well prepared with queens and zerglings behind.
9:00 Scarlett 68 vs NesTea 49 Nestea getting a baneling nest and a roach warren. Scarlett researching zergling speed. Scarlett taking a third base.
10:00 Scarlett 83 vs NesTea 69 Scarlett sends in an overseer but sees not very much. Nestea producing roaches. Scarlett getting roach speed and +2 roach attack.
11:00 Scarlett 105 vs NesTea 87 Nestea moving in for an attack with banelings and roaches. Scarlett transfuses well enough to easily hold off the attack. Nestea GG's. Scarlett wins 2-0!
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
20%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (5)
20%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
4%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
4%
25 total votes
Your vote: Scarlett vs Nestea: Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
20%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (5)
20%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
4%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
4%
25 total votes
Your vote: Scarlett vs Nestea: Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
15%
★★★ - Good game (2)
15%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Scarlett vs Nestea: Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
If it was not for this other guy, looks kinda BM and is from Sweden, one would be able to agree.
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Maybe because : NaNiwa ?
Even though I root for Scarlett way more than NaNiwa.
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
I watched IEM and although NaNiwa is good, he is not quite in the same class as Scarlett.
On October 16 2013 08:40 Squat wrote: It's kind of stupid how top heavy the NA talent pool is, there Scarlett, then there's ???? and then everyone else.
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
I watched IEM and although NaNiwa is good, he is not quite in the same class as Scarlett.
On October 16 2013 08:40 Squat wrote: It's kind of stupid how top heavy the NA talent pool is, there Scarlett, then there's ???? and then everyone else.
actually who even is the "everyone else"? like... after scarlett, who has the best legit results from NA in heart of the swarm? goswser?
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
As a Canadian, I love Scarlett, but as a Protoss, I can't say no to Naniwa's no-Colossus style...
On October 16 2013 08:40 Squat wrote: It's kind of stupid how top heavy the NA talent pool is, there Scarlett, then there's ???? and then everyone else.
Jaedong, Polt, Taeja () ?
NA talent pool, not WCS NA players. As in domestic talent
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
I watched IEM and although NaNiwa is good, he is not quite in the same class as Scarlett.
Naniwa and Scarlett both have their moments of beating top Koreans, not sure how you can be so sure that Scarlett is better. Not to mention that beating Nestea isn't exactly a noteworthy achievement anymore (and this is coming from a Nestea fan T_T)
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
I watched IEM and although NaNiwa is good, he is not quite in the same class as Scarlett.
So you watched Naniwa beat Hackx2, San, Hyun, and perform well against Life but decided Scarlett beating Nestea 2-0 makes her better at this moment?
I think scarlett is better but I think it is certainly really close.
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
As a Canadian, I love Scarlett, but as a Protoss, I can't say no to Naniwa's no-Colossus style...
Stargate into storm seems pretty awesome in Nani's hands.
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
I watched IEM and although NaNiwa is good, he is not quite in the same class as Scarlett.
So you watched Naniwa beat Hackx2, San, Hyun, and perform well against Life but decided Scarlett beating Nestea 2-0 makes her better at this moment?
I think scarlett is better but I think it is certainly really close.
Even you with your a bit less biased view would be wrong if people asked ME!
On October 16 2013 08:40 Squat wrote: It's kind of stupid how top heavy the NA talent pool is, there Scarlett, then there's ???? and then everyone else.
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
I watched IEM and although NaNiwa is good, he is not quite in the same class as Scarlett.
So you watched Naniwa beat Hackx2, San, Hyun, and perform well against Life but decided Scarlett beating Nestea 2-0 makes her better at this moment?
I think scarlett is better but I think it is certainly really close.
Never underestimate the amount of Scarlett dickriding. And I don't mean that as a bad joke; she's like the Mang0 of SC2.
On October 16 2013 08:40 Squat wrote: It's kind of stupid how top heavy the NA talent pool is, there Scarlett, then there's ???? and then everyone else.
Jaedong, Polt, Taeja () ?
Those are korean players.
Polt lives in america and Jaedong is on an american team but I see what you mean.
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
I watched IEM and although NaNiwa is good, he is not quite in the same class as Scarlett.
So you watched Naniwa beat Hackx2, San, Hyun, and perform well against Life but decided Scarlett beating Nestea 2-0 makes her better at this moment?
I think scarlett is better but I think it is certainly really close.
Never underestimate the amount of Scarlett dickriding. And I don't mean that as a bad joke; she's like the Mang0 of SC2.
two very close talents, one is known for BM, other is humble and likeable. humble one is held up as better than the annoying one. big surprise?
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
I watched IEM and although NaNiwa is good, he is not quite in the same class as Scarlett.
So you watched Naniwa beat Hackx2, San, Hyun, and perform well against Life but decided Scarlett beating Nestea 2-0 makes her better at this moment?
I think scarlett is better but I think it is certainly really close.
Even you with your a bit less biased view would be wrong if people asked ME!
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
I watched IEM and although NaNiwa is good, he is not quite in the same class as Scarlett.
So you watched Naniwa beat Hackx2, San, Hyun, and perform well against Life but decided Scarlett beating Nestea 2-0 makes her better at this moment?
I think scarlett is better but I think it is certainly really close.
No, I've always maintained that Scarlett is the best foreigner. I even said as much in the IEM thread when everyone was overhyping NaNiwa only for Life to destroy him in the final. NaNiwa is a very good player and is definitely the sceond best foreigner. But I'm sorry but Scarlett is simply the better player of the two. If Scarlett was in the WCS EU I couldn't see her getting knocked out in the Ro32 like NaNiwa was.
In fact, in WCS AM Season 2 Scarlett only lost in the semi final to a Jaedong cheese in the final map, and also had a really good series against Bomber in the Season 2 Finals, again taking him to a deciding match.
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
I watched IEM and although NaNiwa is good, he is not quite in the same class as Scarlett.
So you watched Naniwa beat Hackx2, San, Hyun, and perform well against Life but decided Scarlett beating Nestea 2-0 makes her better at this moment?
I think scarlett is better but I think it is certainly really close.
Never underestimate the amount of Scarlett dickriding. And I don't mean that as a bad joke; she's like the Mang0 of SC2.
two very close talents, one is known for BM, other is humble and likeable. humble one is held up as better than the annoying one. big surprise?
Scarlett isn't exactly humble, she's actually quite confident of her skills. She just doesn't spount non-PC things when she loses.
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
I watched IEM and although NaNiwa is good, he is not quite in the same class as Scarlett.
So you watched Naniwa beat Hackx2, San, Hyun, and perform well against Life but decided Scarlett beating Nestea 2-0 makes her better at this moment?
I think scarlett is better but I think it is certainly really close.
Never underestimate the amount of Scarlett dickriding. And I don't mean that as a bad joke; she's like the Mang0 of SC2.
Imagine how would that be if she won high tier tournaments Stephano hype train all over again
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
I watched IEM and although NaNiwa is good, he is not quite in the same class as Scarlett.
So you watched Naniwa beat Hackx2, San, Hyun, and perform well against Life but decided Scarlett beating Nestea 2-0 makes her better at this moment?
I think scarlett is better but I think it is certainly really close.
Never underestimate the amount of Scarlett dickriding. And I don't mean that as a bad joke; she's like the Mang0 of SC2.
two very close talents, one is known for BM, other is humble and likeable. humble one is held up as better than the annoying one. big surprise?
Scarlett isn't exactly humble, she's actually quite confident of her skills. She just doesn't spount non-PC things when she loses.
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
I watched IEM and although NaNiwa is good, he is not quite in the same class as Scarlett.
So you watched Naniwa beat Hackx2, San, Hyun, and perform well against Life but decided Scarlett beating Nestea 2-0 makes her better at this moment?
I think scarlett is better but I think it is certainly really close.
No, I've always maintained that Scarlett is the best foreigner. I even said as much in the IEM thread when everyone was overhyping NaNiwa only for Life to destroy him in the final. NaNiwa is a very good player and is definitely the sceond best foreigner. But I'm sorry but Scarlett is simply the better player of the two. If Scarlett was in the WCS EU I couldn't see her getting knocked out in the Ro32 like NaNiwa was.
In fact, in WCS AM Season 2 Scarlett only lost in the semi final to a Jaedong cheese in the final map, and also had a really good series against Bomber in the Season 2 Finals, again taking him to a deciding match.
People always bring up JD's cheese like that was the only reason he beat her...
MacSed spawns in the bottom left Scarlett spawns in the top right.
2:00 Scarlett going a perfectly normal 15 pool MacSed going FFE with nexus first.
3:00 MacSed blocks the hatchery for a few seconds but Scarlett gets it down. MacSed getting a gateway and a cannon. Scarlett moving out with her first two zerglings. MacSed building an assimilator.
4:00 MacSed scouts the third base of Scarlett building as it goes down. MacSed getting a second assimilator. MacSed starts a cybernetics core.
5:00 MacSed completely walled off. Scarlett still not mining any gas. MacSed getting a stalker and warpgate.
On October 16 2013 08:46 The_Templar wrote: I really want scarlett to lose now, and for nestea, macsed to advance for some reason
Vile blasphemer, the Great Dong shall smite you for your insolence, his mighty limb shall crash across the side if thine cheek with an almighty thud
What does the great Dong have to do with either of the three?
The Great Dong sees all, knows all, and shall not lightly suffer disparagement to his fellow zerg champions.
Isn't Nestea more of a Zerg champion than Scarlett? Thereby making Templar's prediction that Nestea would advance favorable in The Great Dong's eyes? eye?
On October 16 2013 08:46 The_Templar wrote: I really want scarlett to lose now, and for nestea, macsed to advance for some reason
Vile blasphemer, the Great Dong shall smite you for your insolence, his mighty limb shall crash across the side if thine cheek with an almighty thud
What does the great Dong have to do with either of the three?
The Great Dong sees all, knows all, and shall not lightly suffer disparagement to his fellow zerg champions.
Isn't Nestea more of a Zerg champion than Scarlett? Thereby making Templar's prediction that Nestea would advance favorable in The Great Dong's eyes? eye?
The Great Dong works in mysterious ways. His divine intellect is not for mortals to question.
On October 16 2013 08:38 Crot4le wrote: How some people can claim that Scarlett isn't the best foreigner is beyond me. She is just so good at this game.
Some people watched IEM and think it may be closer than some might think
I watched IEM and although NaNiwa is good, he is not quite in the same class as Scarlett.
So you watched Naniwa beat Hackx2, San, Hyun, and perform well against Life but decided Scarlett beating Nestea 2-0 makes her better at this moment?
I think scarlett is better but I think it is certainly really close.
Never underestimate the amount of Scarlett dickriding. And I don't mean that as a bad joke; she's like the Mang0 of SC2.
Poor choice of words, especially when you know that it can be taken as a bad joke. Anyway, "dickriding" or not, she is a really strong player - one of the top foreigners, along with Naniwa. I hate that guy's guts, but his performance in IEM was strong.
On October 16 2013 08:46 The_Templar wrote: I really want scarlett to lose now, and for nestea, macsed to advance for some reason
Vile blasphemer, the Great Dong shall smite you for your insolence, his mighty limb shall crash across the side if thine cheek with an almighty thud
What does the great Dong have to do with either of the three?
The Great Dong sees all, knows all, and shall not lightly suffer disparagement to his fellow zerg champions.
Isn't Nestea more of a Zerg champion than Scarlett? Thereby making Templar's prediction that Nestea would advance favorable in The Great Dong's eyes? eye?
The Great Dong works in mysterious ways. His divine intellect is not for mortals to question.
But certainly his power is matched or close to that of the Creator?
MacSed spawns in the bottom left Scarlett spawns in the top right.
2:00 Scarlett going a perfectly normal 15 pool MacSed going FFE with nexus first.
3:00 MacSed blocks the hatchery for a few seconds but Scarlett gets it down. MacSed getting a gateway and a cannon. Scarlett moving out with her first two zerglings. MacSed building an assimilator.
4:00 MacSed scouts the third base of Scarlett building as it goes down. MacSed getting a second assimilator. MacSed starts a cybernetics core.
5:00 MacSed completely walled off. Scarlett still not mining any gas. MacSed getting a stalker and warpgate.
6:00 MacSed 41 vs Scarlett 49 Scarlett taking 2 extractors. MacSed building a sentry. MacSed chronoboosting probes but no tech. MacSed getting +1 weapons.
7:00 MacSed 52 vs Scarlett 62 MacSed taking a third base. Scarlett starts zergling speed. MacSed getting a stargate. Two evolution chambers for Scarlett. MacSed getting a second starport.
8:00 MacSed 62 vs Scarlett 82 Scarlett getting +1/1 with melee. Scarlett morphing a lair. Void ray on the way for MacSed. MacSed transfers probes to the third bas. Scarlett taking a fourth base.
9:00 MacSed 76 vs Scarlett 95 Scarlett sending lots of zerglings to the third base of MacSed and killing about 6-7 probes and nothing else. Scarlett getting an evolution chamber. 6 gateways on the way for MacSed.
10:00 MacSed 85 vs Scarlett 112 Scarlett getting 2/2 and infestor energy. Scarlett has 60 zerglings. MacSed pushing out with lots of sentries. 8 infestors on the way for Scarlett.
On October 16 2013 08:46 The_Templar wrote: I really want scarlett to lose now, and for nestea, macsed to advance for some reason
Vile blasphemer, the Great Dong shall smite you for your insolence, his mighty limb shall crash across the side if thine cheek with an almighty thud
What does the great Dong have to do with either of the three?
The Great Dong sees all, knows all, and shall not lightly suffer disparagement to his fellow zerg champions.
Isn't Nestea more of a Zerg champion than Scarlett? Thereby making Templar's prediction that Nestea would advance favorable in The Great Dong's eyes? eye?
The Great Dong works in mysterious ways. His divine intellect is not for mortals to question.
But certainly his power is matched or close to that of the Creator?
Unsure of this, power matrix malfunctions when simulation is attempted. It goes to bluescreen and screams something about over 9000
On October 16 2013 08:46 The_Templar wrote: I really want scarlett to lose now, and for nestea, macsed to advance for some reason
Vile blasphemer, the Great Dong shall smite you for your insolence, his mighty limb shall crash across the side if thine cheek with an almighty thud
What does the great Dong have to do with either of the three?
The Great Dong sees all, knows all, and shall not lightly suffer disparagement to his fellow zerg champions.
Isn't Nestea more of a Zerg champion than Scarlett? Thereby making Templar's prediction that Nestea would advance favorable in The Great Dong's eyes? eye?
The Great Dong works in mysterious ways. His divine intellect is not for mortals to question.
But certainly his power is matched or close to that of the Creator?
Unsure of this, power matrix malfunctions when simulation is attempted. It goes to bluescreen and screams something a out over 9000
We could have a DBZ power level thread but comparing the relative strengths of the Gods of Starcraft.
MacSed spawns in the bottom left Scarlett spawns in the top right.
2:00 Scarlett going a perfectly normal 15 pool MacSed going FFE with nexus first.
3:00 MacSed blocks the hatchery for a few seconds but Scarlett gets it down. MacSed getting a gateway and a cannon. Scarlett moving out with her first two zerglings. MacSed building an assimilator.
4:00 MacSed scouts the third base of Scarlett building as it goes down. MacSed getting a second assimilator. MacSed starts a cybernetics core.
5:00 MacSed completely walled off. Scarlett still not mining any gas. MacSed getting a stalker and warpgate.
6:00 MacSed 41 vs Scarlett 49 Scarlett taking 2 extractors. MacSed building a sentry. MacSed chronoboosting probes but no tech. MacSed getting +1 weapons.
7:00 MacSed 52 vs Scarlett 62 MacSed taking a third base. Scarlett starts zergling speed. MacSed getting a stargate. Two evolution chambers for Scarlett. MacSed getting a second starport.
8:00 MacSed 62 vs Scarlett 82 Scarlett getting +1/1 with melee. Scarlett morphing a lair. Void ray on the way for MacSed. MacSed transfers probes to the third bas. Scarlett taking a fourth base.
9:00 MacSed 76 vs Scarlett 95 Scarlett sending lots of zerglings to the third base of MacSed and killing about 6-7 probes and nothing else. Scarlett getting an evolution chamber. 6 gateways on the way for MacSed.
10:00 MacSed 85 vs Scarlett 112 Scarlett getting 2/2 and infestor energy. Scarlett has 60 zerglings. MacSed pushing out with lots of sentries. 8 infestors on the way for Scarlett.
11:00 MacSed 112 vs Scarlett 147 MacSed force fields lots of zerglings outside the natural. MacSed forcing his way into the natural. Fungal growth for scarlett.
12:00 MacSed 94 vs Scarlett 120 MacSed landing time warps. MacSed even gets into the drone line. More infestors/zerglings on the way for scarlett. MacSed killing overlords. Scarlett GG's! MacSed takes a 1-0 lead!
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
14%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
14 total votes
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does that go any differently if scarlett is aggressive with the first group of lings, tries to bait forcefields, then run behind macsed's army and flank when the FFs go down? lings are gonna die anyway, better that they die creating a flank and buying time than just rallying into an army?
It was just a timing push that hit before Scarlett's army was strong enough. If that had hit like 30 seconds later it fails horribly. As it happened Macsed got into a good position just before infestors popped.
On October 16 2013 08:59 Waise wrote: does that go any differently if scarlett is aggressive with the first group of lings, tries to bait forcefields, then run behind macsed's army and flank when the FFs go down? lings are gonna die anyway, better that they die creating a flank and buying time than just rallying into an army?
You always want to engage before protoss can reach your nat if possible, especially with infestors.
MacSed spawns in the bottom right Scarlett spawns in the top right.
2:00 Scarlett getting a 15 pool. MacSed going gateway first and a fast assimilator.
3:00 Scarlett taking an expansion. MacSed getting a mothership core.
4:00 MacSed getting an expansion. Scarlett scouts with a zergling. MacSed getting a twilight council.
5:00 MacSed getting a dark shrine. Scarlett still on 2 bases.
6:00 MacSed 37 vs Scarlett 51 Scarlett getting zergling speed. MacSed building a forge. Scarlett getting 2 evolution chambers. Scarlett getting 1/1.
7:00 MacSed 46 vs Scarlett 60 Scarlett starting a lair. MacSed warping in 2 DTs. Scarlett still hasn't seen the DTs and hasn't prepared. MacSed kills a queen in the main base.
9:00 MacSed 65 vs Scarlett 59 MacSed doesn't manage to kill the third base. MacSed getting 4 more gateways. MacSed researching charge. MacSed taking a third base. Scarlett making an infestation pit.
10:00 MacSed vs Scarlett 69 Scarlett moves into the third and forces a cancel. MacSed moves DTs into Scarlett's third base and kills it. Scarlett getting infestor energy and 2/2. MacSed taking a forward third and getting an immortal. MacSed has an archon.
On October 16 2013 09:09 purakushi wrote: Really poor play from MacSed =\ Should have done way more damage. On top of that, he was not macroing during that.
contrary to what the casters are saying, TLO has claimed banelings are good against immortals and he likes using them because they kill the shields quickly
On October 16 2013 09:09 purakushi wrote: Really poor play from MacSed =\ Should have done way more damage. On top of that, he was not macroing during that.
Doesn't matter considering the damage he's done.
The point is that he could have done so much more. I like MacSed, but that was poor play, regardless of how much damage he actually did.
On October 16 2013 09:12 Waise wrote: contrary to what the casters are saying, TLO has claimed banelings are good against immortals and he likes using them because they kill the shields quickly
i wonder who's right?
How clumped are the immortals? That's what matters.
MacSed spawns in the bottom right Scarlett spawns in the top right.
2:00 Scarlett getting a 15 pool. MacSed going gateway first and a fast assimilator.
3:00 Scarlett taking an expansion. MacSed getting a mothership core.
4:00 MacSed getting an expansion. Scarlett scouts with a zergling. MacSed getting a twilight council.
5:00 MacSed getting a dark shrine. Scarlett still on 2 bases.
6:00 MacSed 37 vs Scarlett 51 Scarlett getting zergling speed. MacSed building a forge. Scarlett getting 2 evolution chambers. Scarlett getting 1/1.
7:00 MacSed 46 vs Scarlett 60 Scarlett starting a lair. MacSed warping in 2 DTs. Scarlett still hasn't seen the DTs and hasn't prepared. MacSed kills a queen in the main base.
9:00 MacSed 65 vs Scarlett 59 MacSed doesn't manage to kill the third base. MacSed getting 4 more gateways. MacSed researching charge. MacSed taking a third base. Scarlett making an infestation pit.
10:00 MacSed vs Scarlett 69 Scarlett moves into the third and forces a cancel. MacSed moves DTs into Scarlett's third base and kills it. Scarlett getting infestor energy and 2/2. MacSed taking a forward third and getting an immortal. MacSed has an archon.
11:00 MacSed 92 vs Scarlett 86 Scarlett attempts a runby with zerglings but it's shut doesn. Scarlett moves into the third base of MacSed and loses nearlyall her zerglings.
12:00 MacSed 107 vs Scarlett 89 Robotics bay for MacSed. Scarlett getting infestors. MacSed getting another robotics facility. Both players on 3 bases.
13:00 MacSed 124 vs Scarlett 104 Scarlett attempting another run by. MacSed doing a zealots+1 dt drop. Scarlett finishes a hive. MacSed nearly kills some infestors but doesn't.
14:00 MacSed 138 vs Scarlett 125 Scarlett getting an ultralisk den but doesn't have gas. MacSed getting more colossi and archons. MacSed doing another zealot drop.
15:00 MacSed 166 vs Scarlett 147 MacSed killing tons of drones. MacSed moving into the third base of Scarlett with a 3 colossus army. Scarlett has lots of infestors. MacSed backs off.
On October 16 2013 09:07 Fanatic-Templar wrote: What happened to the Chinese Player who had the registration scandal at the beginning of WCS NA Season 1? Comm, I think it was?
He's still a progamer in China, hasn't done much though.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
10%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
10%
10 total votes
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Poll: Group B Winners' Match: Game 3
★★★ - Good game (6)
67%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
22%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
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0%
9 total votes
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(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
MacSed spawns in the bottom right Scarlett spawns in the top right.
2:00 Scarlett getting a 15 pool. MacSed going gateway first and a fast assimilator.
3:00 Scarlett taking an expansion. MacSed getting a mothership core.
4:00 MacSed getting an expansion. Scarlett scouts with a zergling. MacSed getting a twilight council.
5:00 MacSed getting a dark shrine. Scarlett still on 2 bases.
6:00 MacSed 37 vs Scarlett 51 Scarlett getting zergling speed. MacSed building a forge. Scarlett getting 2 evolution chambers. Scarlett getting 1/1.
7:00 MacSed 46 vs Scarlett 60 Scarlett starting a lair. MacSed warping in 2 DTs. Scarlett still hasn't seen the DTs and hasn't prepared. MacSed kills a queen in the main base.
9:00 MacSed 65 vs Scarlett 59 MacSed doesn't manage to kill the third base. MacSed getting 4 more gateways. MacSed researching charge. MacSed taking a third base. Scarlett making an infestation pit.
10:00 MacSed vs Scarlett 69 Scarlett moves into the third and forces a cancel. MacSed moves DTs into Scarlett's third base and kills it. Scarlett getting infestor energy and 2/2. MacSed taking a forward third and getting an immortal. MacSed has an archon.
11:00 MacSed 92 vs Scarlett 86 Scarlett attempts a runby with zerglings but it's shut doesn. Scarlett moves into the third base of MacSed and loses nearlyall her zerglings.
12:00 MacSed 107 vs Scarlett 89 Robotics bay for MacSed. Scarlett getting infestors. MacSed getting another robotics facility. Both players on 3 bases.
13:00 MacSed 124 vs Scarlett 104 Scarlett attempting another run by. MacSed doing a zealots+1 dt drop. Scarlett finishes a hive. MacSed nearly kills some infestors but doesn't.
14:00 MacSed 138 vs Scarlett 125 Scarlett getting an ultralisk den but doesn't have gas. MacSed getting more colossi and archons. MacSed doing another zealot drop.
15:00 MacSed 166 vs Scarlett 147 MacSed killing tons of drones. MacSed moving into the third base of Scarlett with a 3 colossus army. Scarlett has lots of infestors. MacSed backs off.
16:00 MacSed 174 vs Scarlett 145 Scarlett getting ultralisk armor and 2 ultralisks. MacSed attempts another zealot drop in the same spot but it's shut down. MacSed doing an attack on Scarlett's natural/third area.
17:00 MacSed 182vs Scarlett 173 Macsed intercepts Scarlett's units rushing to defend the third and kills tons. Scarlett backing up into her natural. Scarlett GG's! MacSed wins 2-0!
On October 16 2013 09:07 Fanatic-Templar wrote: What happened to the Chinese Player who had the registration scandal at the beginning of WCS NA Season 1? Comm, I think it was?
He's still a progamer in China, hasn't done much though.
On October 16 2013 09:07 Fanatic-Templar wrote: What happened to the Chinese Player who had the registration scandal at the beginning of WCS NA Season 1? Comm, I think it was?
He's still a progamer in China, hasn't done much though.
That's too bad, I recall him having an amazing run back then.
On October 16 2013 09:07 Fanatic-Templar wrote: What happened to the Chinese Player who had the registration scandal at the beginning of WCS NA Season 1? Comm, I think it was?
He's still a progamer in China, hasn't done much though.
On October 16 2013 09:07 Fanatic-Templar wrote: What happened to the Chinese Player who had the registration scandal at the beginning of WCS NA Season 1? Comm, I think it was?
He's still a progamer in China, hasn't done much though.
He retired just a month or two ago.
Comm is not retiring.
yeah, I was just gonna say, he just got Ro8 in WCG China a few days ago.
How funny would it have been if he said that he thanks the great nation of China for its superiority. And that it's going to destroy the degenerate western hegemony on the world with its superior discipline and hard work.
On October 16 2013 09:22 Doublemint wrote: How funny would it have been if he said that he thanks the great nation of China for its superiority. And that it's going to destroy the degenerate western hegemony on the world with its superior discipline and hard work.
On October 16 2013 09:22 Doublemint wrote: How funny would it have been if he said that he thanks the great nation of China for its superiority. And that it's going to destroy the degenerate western hegemony on the world with its superior discipline and hard work.
I missed the second game but the first was very good from MacSed. Scarlett should still be able to advance if she can keep her focus and not tilt, this series is more about MacSed than it is about her.
On October 16 2013 09:22 Doublemint wrote: How funny would it have been if he said that he thanks the great nation of China for its superiority. And that it's going to destroy the degenerate western hegemony on the world with its superior discipline and hard work.
It's ok, he didn't say that. Actually he said less than what Edison translated. I think Macsed isn't really used to interviews. Needs more experience. But congrats!!!
On October 16 2013 09:16 Snusmumriken wrote: Scarlett best foreigner? I think not
I couldn't believe that people claimed her as best foreigner in IEM thread when Naniwa took second place...
Scarlett is still the best foreigner. 1 bo3 loss doesn't change that.
Right. Did you watch IEM and this Bo3 ? These claims are ridiculous.
claims in both directions are ridiculous >_>
i cant believe this kind of shit comes up in every LR
*complains that there's not enough competitive foreigners and support for the foreign scene* what's this, only two competitive foreigners? i'd better hate one and love the other
On October 16 2013 09:22 Doublemint wrote: How funny would it have been if he said that he thanks the great nation of China for its superiority. And that it's going to destroy the degenerate western hegemony on the world with its superior discipline and hard work.
SC2 causes WWIII between China/KR and the rest of the world, all battles decided by sc2 imo
On October 16 2013 09:22 Doublemint wrote: How funny would it have been if he said that he thanks the great nation of China for its superiority. And that it's going to destroy the degenerate western hegemony on the world with its superior discipline and hard work.
I would've been more frightened then amused
But he could have smiled a sly chinese smile while saying it? Still frightened?
On October 16 2013 09:16 Snusmumriken wrote: Scarlett best foreigner? I think not
I couldn't believe that people claimed her as best foreigner in IEM thread when Naniwa took second place...
Scarlett is still the best foreigner. 1 bo3 loss doesn't change that.
Right. Did you watch IEM and this Bo3 ? These claims are ridiculous.
claims in both directions are ridiculous >_>
i cant believe this kind of shit comes up in every LR
*complains that there's not enough competitive foreigners and support for the foreign scene* what's this, only two competitive foreigners? i'd better hate one and love the other
Everyone has their off days. People probably doubted Naniwa when he fell out of WCS EU Ro32.
On October 16 2013 09:16 Snusmumriken wrote: Scarlett best foreigner? I think not
Lol look at you so smug after one Bo3 match. NaNiwa couldn't even make it out of his Ro32 group in WCS Europe, that didn't suddenly mean he is bad. Just like losing to MacSed doesn't suddenly mean Scarlett is bad. And Protoss is Scarlett's worst match up by the way.
On October 16 2013 09:22 Doublemint wrote: How funny would it have been if he said that he thanks the great nation of China for its superiority. And that it's going to destroy the degenerate western hegemony on the world with its superior discipline and hard work.
I would've been more frightened then amused
But he could have smiled a sly chinese smile while saying it? Still frightened?
On October 16 2013 09:16 Snusmumriken wrote: Scarlett best foreigner? I think not
I couldn't believe that people claimed her as best foreigner in IEM thread when Naniwa took second place...
Scarlett is still the best foreigner. 1 bo3 loss doesn't change that.
Right. Did you watch IEM and this Bo3 ? These claims are ridiculous.
Because one tournament means everything? Naniwa has always been WILDLY inconsistent with his results, mixing brilliant play with getting rolled by Targa. Scarlett was always very solid, she is clearly out of shape, she played a bad series and lost, BFD.
Seriously, I usually enjoy these WCS LR threads, but this one has become way too hateful and stupid for me, peace.
On October 16 2013 09:24 Darkhoarse wrote: LR THREAD VOW: I shall not compare Naniwa and Scarlett in an LR thread of a tourney that does not have both players participating.
On October 16 2013 09:22 Doublemint wrote: How funny would it have been if he said that he thanks the great nation of China for its superiority. And that it's going to destroy the degenerate western hegemony on the world with its superior discipline and hard work.
SC2 causes WWIII between China/KR and the rest of the world, all battles decided by sc2 imo
Poll: World War III
Death of StarCraft (3)
60%
Best World War (1)
20%
Greatest World War (1)
20%
5 total votes
Your vote: World War III
(Vote): Best World War (Vote): Greatest World War (Vote): Death of StarCraft
On October 16 2013 09:16 Snusmumriken wrote: Scarlett best foreigner? I think not
Lol look at you so smug after one Bo3 match. NaNiwa couldn't even make it out of his Ro32 group in WCS Europe, that didn't suddenly mean he is bad. Just like losing to MacSed doesn't suddenly mean Scarlett is bad. And Protoss is Scarlett's worst match up by the way.
Ah I knew this weekend was a dream. I mean come on, Hyun dressed as spider man? Foreigner vs Korea final with awesome games and cute plays, intense micro etc? Thanks for waking me up.
On October 16 2013 09:16 Snusmumriken wrote: Scarlett best foreigner? I think not
Lol look at you so smug after one Bo3 match. NaNiwa couldn't even make it out of his Ro32 group in WCS Europe, that didn't suddenly mean he is bad. Just like losing to MacSed doesn't suddenly mean Scarlett is bad. And Protoss is Scarlett's worst match up by the way.
It isn't her worst match-up, it's historically her best and it's her best in her current form according to aligulac. She just hates to play it cause she finds it boring.
Nestea spawns in the bottom right Oz spawns in the top left
2:00 Oz blocking the natural of Nestea with two pylons, one is cancelled. Oz starting with a gateway, Nestea builds a spawning pool.
3:00 Nestea takes his third base first before the natural. Oz getting warpgate. Oz on one assimilator.
4:00 Nestea getting zergling speed. Oz taking his natural expansion.
5:00 Oz building a stargate. Nestea taking his natural as his third base. Nestea building a roach warren.
6:00 NesTea 42 vs Oz 41 Oz building a phoenix. Nestea making a lair and an evolution chamber. Nestea sends an overlord into Oz's main.
7:00 NesTea 48 vs Oz 52 Oz proxying a pylon. Nestea building spore crawlers at each of his bases. Oz still building more phoenixes. Oz warping in zealots near Nestea's third base.
8:00 NesTea 60 vs Oz 70 Nestea losing lots of drones to zealots at the third base. Nestea making roaches.
9:00 NesTea 68 vs Oz 88 Oz killing the third and roaches coming out of the main. Nestea getting burrow and hydralisk range.
10:00 NesTea 69 vs Oz 94 Nestea getting an infestation pit. Nestea morphing a hive. Oz getting immortals and a robotics bay. Oz takes his third base.
Nestea spawns in the bottom right Oz spawns in the top left
2:00 Oz blocking the natural of Nestea with two pylons, one is cancelled. Oz starting with a gateway, Nestea builds a spawning pool.
3:00 Nestea takes his third base first before the natural. Oz getting warpgate. Oz on one assimilator.
4:00 Nestea getting zergling speed. Oz taking his natural expansion.
5:00 Oz building a stargate. Nestea taking his natural as his third base. Nestea building a roach warren.
6:00 NesTea 42 vs Oz 41 Oz building a phoenix. Nestea making a lair and an evolution chamber. Nestea sends an overlord into Oz's main.
7:00 NesTea 48 vs Oz 52 Oz proxying a pylon. Nestea building spore crawlers at each of his bases. Oz still building more phoenixes. Oz warping in zealots near Nestea's third base.
8:00 NesTea 60 vs Oz 70 Nestea losing lots of drones to zealots at the third base. Nestea making roaches.
9:00 NesTea 68 vs Oz 88 Oz killing the third and roaches coming out of the main. Nestea getting burrow and hydralisk range.
10:00 NesTea 69 vs Oz 94 Nestea getting an infestation pit. Nestea morphing a hive. Oz getting immortals and a robotics bay. Oz takes his third base.
11:00 NesTea 87 vs Oz 112 Oz getting extended thermal lance. Oz picks up hydralisks at Nestea's third base. Nestea does an attack at Oz's third base which kills a lot of sentries and zealots.
12:00 NesTea 92 vs Oz 132 Oz getting out an observer Oz cleans up the roach attack.
13:00 NesTea 112 vs Oz 139 Nestea getting hydralisk speed. Nestea getting a hive. Nestea making three vipers.
14:00 NesTea 119 vs Oz 139 Oz getting 2 more stargates. Three void rays on the way at a time for Oz. Nestea charging up his vipers. Both players on three bases.
15:00 NesTea 166 vs Oz 173 Nestea taking a 4th base. Oz still harassing with phoenixes. Nestea going very heavy roaches. Templar Archives on the way.
Nestea spawns in the bottom right Oz spawns in the top left
2:00 Oz blocking the natural of Nestea with two pylons, one is cancelled. Oz starting with a gateway, Nestea builds a spawning pool.
3:00 Nestea takes his third base first before the natural. Oz getting warpgate. Oz on one assimilator.
4:00 Nestea getting zergling speed. Oz taking his natural expansion.
5:00 Oz building a stargate. Nestea taking his natural as his third base. Nestea building a roach warren.
6:00 NesTea 42 vs Oz 41 Oz building a phoenix. Nestea making a lair and an evolution chamber. Nestea sends an overlord into Oz's main.
7:00 NesTea 48 vs Oz 52 Oz proxying a pylon. Nestea building spore crawlers at each of his bases. Oz still building more phoenixes. Oz warping in zealots near Nestea's third base.
8:00 NesTea 60 vs Oz 70 Nestea losing lots of drones to zealots at the third base. Nestea making roaches.
9:00 NesTea 68 vs Oz 88 Oz killing the third and roaches coming out of the main. Nestea getting burrow and hydralisk range.
10:00 NesTea 69 vs Oz 94 Nestea getting an infestation pit. Nestea morphing a hive. Oz getting immortals and a robotics bay. Oz takes his third base.
11:00 NesTea 87 vs Oz 112 Oz getting extended thermal lance. Oz picks up hydralisks at Nestea's third base. Nestea does an attack at Oz's third base which kills a lot of sentries and zealots.
12:00 NesTea 92 vs Oz 132 Oz getting out an observer Oz cleans up the roach attack.
13:00 NesTea 112 vs Oz 139 Nestea getting hydralisk speed. Nestea getting a hive. Nestea making three vipers.
14:00 NesTea 119 vs Oz 139 Oz getting 2 more stargates. Three void rays on the way at a time for Oz. Nestea charging up his vipers. Both players on three bases.
15:00 NesTea 166 vs Oz 173 Nestea taking a 4th base. Oz still harassing with phoenixes. Nestea going very heavy roaches. Templar Archives on the way.
16:00 NesTea 200 vs Oz 193 Nestea attacking into the third base and is crushed by mass colossi. Oz giving chase to the remnants of Nestea's army.
17:00 NesTea 178 vs Oz 199 Nestea doing a roach counter attack. Oz moving into Nestea's main base. Nestea is FF'd out. Oz recalled a bunch of units.
19:00 NesTea 143 vs Oz 191 Nestea loses all his roaches and his hive. Nestea finally gets into his main and kills some immortals and zealots.
20:00 NesTea 139 vs Oz 185 Nestea is on pure hydralisks against colossi. Nestea gets a good concave but Oz lands time warps and has void ray/colossi. Nestea GG's. Oz takes a 1-0 lead!
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
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★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
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★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
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5 total votes
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(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Right, forgot about DRG. That's what you get for not doing better at IEM NY DRG!
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
hey i'll take gold league husband over grandmaster bachelor any day :D
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
DRG has a girlfriend and he's doing well again :D
He would've won that tournament had he not been wearing the girlfriend mandated headwear... naturally
Nestea spawns in the bottom left Oz spawns in the bottom right
1:00 Nestea going 10 pool. Oz going forge first FFE, sending out a probe.
2:00 Oz building a cannon at his natural. Nestea chasing probes with his zerglings.
3:00 Both players expanding. Oz walling off with a gateway.
4:00 Nestea pokes with zerglings and backs off. Nestea taking a third base. Oz getting a second gateway and two assimilators.
5:00 Nestea moving a queen to his third base. Oz getting a stargate.
6:00 NesTea 44 vs Oz 41 Nestea getting 3 extractors.
7:00 NesTea 61 vs Oz 50 Oz getting a robotics facility. Nestea morphing a lair. Void rays for Oz.
8:00 NesTea 69 vs Oz 59 Nestea getting an evolution chamber. Nestea researching zergling speed. Oz getting a robotics facility.
9:00 NesTea 76 vs Oz 65 Nestea getting a spire. Oz going void ray. Nestea scouts with an overseer and sees everything in the natural.
10:00 NesTea 75 vs Oz 91 Nestea taking a 4th base. Oz getting extended thermal lance. Nestea making 13 mutalisks.
11:00 NesTea 107 vs Oz 114 Nestea moving in with mutalisks and killing photon cannons and phoenixes. Oz attacking Nestea's third and losing zealots to zerglings.
12:00 NesTea 120 vs Oz 107 Nestea laying waste to the natural of Oz. Oz kills the third base of Nestea and backs off.
13:00 NesTea 132 vs Oz 66 Nestea reinforces with lots of mutalisks and kills all the phoenixes. Oz backs off his entire army to his natural.
14:00 NesTea 148 vs Oz 62 Nestea backs off. Oz down to 22 workers. Oz hallucinates 5 phoenixes but they all die.
15:00 NesTea 146 vs Oz 70 Oz is wandering around with his army and losing everything. Oz GG's! Nestea ties it up, 1-1!
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
DRG has a girlfriend and he's doing well again :D
Actually gfs increase your power level (see Hasuobs, DRG), while wives lower your power level (Whitera, dimaga, nestea)
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
DRG has a girlfriend and he's doing well again :D
Actually gfs increase your power level (see Hasuobs, DRG), while wives lower your power level (Whitera, dimaga, nestea)
Whitera's power level will never decrease. Not even holy matrimony can do that.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
17%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Group B Losers' Match: Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
DRG has a girlfriend and he's doing well again :D
Actually gfs increase your power level (see Hasuobs, DRG), while wives lower your power level (Whitera, dimaga, nestea)
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
DRG has a girlfriend and he's doing well again :D
Actually gfs increase your power level (see Hasuobs, DRG), while wives lower your power level (Whitera, dimaga, nestea)
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
DRG has a girlfriend and he's doing well again :D
Actually gfs increase your power level (see Hasuobs, DRG), while wives lower your power level (Whitera, dimaga, nestea)
Where does Grubby fit in there?
Grubby is immune to matrimonial influences. He makes his own power level
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
DRG has a girlfriend and he's doing well again :D
Actually gfs increase your power level (see Hasuobs, DRG), while wives lower your power level (Whitera, dimaga, nestea)
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
DRG has a girlfriend and he's doing well again :D
Actually gfs increase your power level (see Hasuobs, DRG), while wives lower your power level (Whitera, dimaga, nestea)
On October 16 2013 09:40 ssxsilver wrote: Nestea T.T.
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
DRG has a girlfriend and he's doing well again :D
Actually gfs increase your power level (see Hasuobs, DRG), while wives lower your power level (Whitera, dimaga, nestea)
Where does Grubby fit in there?
Grubby broke the scale.
True. By landing Cassandra he reached max level.
Cassandra is not your ordinary wife, and Grubby is not your ordinary man
On October 16 2013 09:42 Doublemint wrote: [quote]
yeah kind of sad. So out of all the legends we only have like MC and MMA left right? And most probably MVP of course once he bounces back.
Though this is some very cute play by Nestea, still not enough I fear.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
DRG has a girlfriend and he's doing well again :D
Actually gfs increase your power level (see Hasuobs, DRG), while wives lower your power level (Whitera, dimaga, nestea)
Where does Grubby fit in there?
Grubby broke the scale.
True. By landing Cassandra he reached max level.
Cassandra is not your ordinary wife, and Grubby is not your ordinary man
Indeed, she is a smart ex miss singapore and he is the king of orcs
Nestea spawns in the bottom. Oz spawns in the top.
2:00 Nestea getting a hatchery down. Oz going FFE, nexus first.
3:00 Oz getting a gateway and an assimilator. Nestea getting a roach warren.
4:00 Nestea taking a third hatchery. Oz scouts the third hatchery of Nestea.
5:00 Nestea cancels his third base and starts 5 roaches. Oz scouts the probes. Oz starts more cannons.
6:00 NesTea 44 vs Oz 41 Nestea gets nothing done with the roaches and starts making drones. Nestea backs up. Oz starts +1 attack and 2 more gateways. Oz getting a robotics facility.
7:00 NesTea 53 vs Oz 49 Oz scouts the natural of Nestea with a mothership core. Nestea getting zergling speed. Oz making a twilight council.
8:00 NesTea 60 vs Oz 58 Oz researching blink. Nestea taking the backdoor third base.
9:00 NesTea 67 vs Oz 67 Oz getting a robotics facility. Nestea morphing a lair and an evolution chamber. Nestea taking more gas.
10:00 NesTea 69 vs Oz 83 Nestea getting roach speed and 30 more zerglings. Oz has 7 gateways and lots of sentry/stalker.
11:00 NesTea 93 vs Oz 93 Oz attacking Nestea's natural expansion and killing all the zerglings and spine crawlers. Nestea pulls drones.
12:00 NesTea 55 vs Oz 94 Nestea tries microing roaches but it's ineffective. Oz blinking his hurt stalkers back.
13:00 NesTea 37 vs Oz 98 Nestea taps out. Oz wins 2-1.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
50%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
2 total votes
Your vote: Group B Losers' Match: Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On October 16 2013 10:08 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Well that's that. Sad Nestea doesn't have his old brilliance anymore. His play is just so uninspired now.
On October 16 2013 10:02 Waise wrote: did rotti just say he thought he was "the white eminem"
hahaha I wanted to say that but then I realized............ i don't think I said eminem though, could have been 2pac either way its safe to say I shouldn't be a rapper.
On October 16 2013 10:02 Waise wrote: did rotti just say he thought he was "the white eminem"
hahaha I wanted to say that but then I realized............ i don't think I said eminem though, could have been 2pac either way its safe to say I shouldn't be a rapper.
On October 16 2013 10:02 Waise wrote: did rotti just say he thought he was "the white eminem"
hahaha I wanted to say that but then I realized............ i don't think I said eminem though, could have been 2pac either way its safe to say I shouldn't be a rapper.
Oz spawns in the top right Scarlett spawns in the top left
2:00 Scarlett going hatchery first. Oz going nexus first FFE. Scarlett building a spawning pool
3:00 Oz getting a forge and a second pylon. Scarlett taking a third base. Oz taking an assimilator and building a cannon.
4:00 Oz getting a cybernetics core. Scarlett getting a queen.
5:00 Scarlett scouts Oz. Oz getting a robotics facility. Oz attempts to scout Scarlett and sees very little.
6:00 Oz 45 vs Scarlett 53 Oz getting an immortal. Scarlett getting one assimilator. Oz building 3 more gateways.
7:00 Oz 52 vs Scarlett 67 Scarlett getting a lair. Scarlett scouting the entire main base of Oz. Oz getting 2 more gateways. Scarlett researching zergling speed.
8:00 Oz 64 vs Scarlett 77 Oz getting a mothership core. Oz starts conducting a train towards Scarlett's base.
9:00 Oz 78 vs Scarlett 104 Scarlett building a spire in the corner of the map. Scarlett attempts to break in with lots of zerglings but fails. Oz knocking at Scarlett's front door.
10:00 Oz 108 vs Scarlett 100 Oz attacks Scarlett's third base and kills it. Oz force fields out a lot of zerglings and kills the natural expansion. Scarlett squeezes out some mutalisks.
On October 16 2013 10:28 Sabu113 wrote: Oz is definitely not in the running for blizzcon right? Not exactly All star material though it didn't need to be.
If Oz wins WCS NA and wins season finals, he's in.
DRG is kind of back too, and we know that legends are legends because they can bounce back. But yeah I agree that Nestea's time is probably over, he's going to marry (has married?) and probably become less and less involved.
Nestea is married yes.
Once again it is confirmed that Girls ruin your game.
DRG has a girlfriend and he's doing well again :D
Actually gfs increase your power level (see Hasuobs, DRG), while wives lower your power level (Whitera, dimaga, nestea)
Where does Grubby fit in there?
Grubby broke the scale.
True. By landing Cassandra he reached max level.
Cassandra is not your ordinary wife, and Grubby is not your ordinary man
Indeed, she is a smart ex miss singapore and he is the king of orcs
On October 16 2013 10:28 Sabu113 wrote: Oz is definitely not in the running for blizzcon right? Not exactly All star material though it didn't need to be.
If Oz wins WCS NA and wins season finals, he's in.
it doesn't ahve to be that extreme, he can go for some combination of top four in both
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
60%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
30%
★★★ - Good game (1)
10%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Group B Decider Match: Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Oz spawns in the top right Scarlett spawns in the top left
2:00 Scarlett going hatchery first. Oz going nexus first FFE. Scarlett building a spawning pool
3:00 Oz getting a forge and a second pylon. Scarlett taking a third base. Oz taking an assimilator and building a cannon.
4:00 Oz getting a cybernetics core. Scarlett getting a queen.
5:00 Scarlett scouts Oz. Oz getting a robotics facility. Oz attempts to scout Scarlett and sees very little.
6:00 Oz 45 vs Scarlett 53 Oz getting an immortal. Scarlett getting one assimilator. Oz building 3 more gateways.
7:00 Oz 52 vs Scarlett 67 Scarlett getting a lair. Scarlett scouting the entire main base of Oz. Oz getting 2 more gateways. Scarlett researching zergling speed.
8:00 Oz 64 vs Scarlett 77 Oz getting a mothership core. Oz starts conducting a train towards Scarlett's base.
9:00 Oz 78 vs Scarlett 104 Scarlett building a spire in the corner of the map. Scarlett attempts to break in with lots of zerglings but fails. Oz knocking at Scarlett's front door.
10:00 Oz 108 vs Scarlett 100 Oz attacks Scarlett's third base and kills it. Oz force fields out a lot of zerglings and kills the natural expansion. Scarlett squeezes out some mutalisks.
11:00 Oz 121 vs Scarlett 63 Oz killing the main of Scarlett. Scarlett moving in for a base race but Oz already has stalkers is his main base.
12:00 Oz 123 vs Scarlett 49 Oz kills the third again. Scarlett building hatcheries at the bottom right corner of the map.
13:00 Oz 124 vs Scarlett 50 Oz hallucinating phoenixes to scout the hidden bases. Scarlett trying to make something happen with the mutalisks.
14:00 Oz 126 vs Scarlett 52 Scarlett kills some sentries but loses mutalisks. Scarlett attacks the army of Oz but fails to do much. Scarlett GG's! Oz takes a 1-0 lead.
On October 16 2013 10:32 Applesmack wrote: Well looks like there is no point watching WCS American if Scarlett is out. Maybe I"ll tune in for Jaedong and that is about it.
scarlett taking two games in a row off oz is not exactly some kind of miraculous longshot
On October 16 2013 10:32 Applesmack wrote: Well looks like there is no point watching WCS American if Scarlett is out. Maybe I"ll tune in for Jaedong and that is about it.
On October 16 2013 10:32 Applesmack wrote: Well looks like there is no point watching WCS American if Scarlett is out. Maybe I"ll tune in for Jaedong and that is about it.
On October 16 2013 10:34 Fjodorov wrote: Hate that it has to be this way :/ Would be so great to see scarlett at the season finals in toronto but I Naniwa comes first for me. Damn this world!
Oz spawns in the top left Scarlett spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Scarlett going spawning pool first. Oz going nexus first FFE. Scarlett expands.
3:00 Scarlett taking a third base. Oz getting a gateway and an assimilator.
4:00 Scarlett droning up. Oz scouting Scarlett for the first time.
5:00 Oz getting a robotics facility. Oz getting +1 weapons and warpgate.
6:00 Oz 47 vs Scarlett 57 Oz building an immortal. Oz building more gateways. Scarlett building a lair.
7:00 Oz 59 vs Scarlett 62 Scarlett getting a roach warren. Scarlett going all the way to 70 drones. Oz is getting a mothership core.
8:00 Oz 71 vs Scarlett 85 Scarlett making a hydralisk den. Scarlett researching roach speed. Oz making a warp prism and lots of sentries. Oz begins his conducting career.
9:00 Oz 86 vs Scarlett 114 Scarlett scouts Oz pushing. Scarlett starts 7 hydralisks and has lots of roaches. Oz destroying rocks.
10:00 Oz 108 vs Scarlett 137 Oz landing perfect force fields and killing units. Scarlett loses her third base.
11:00 Oz 118 vs Scarlett 122 Scarlett losing lots of hydralisks and spine crawlers in the high ground above her natural. Scarlett GG's! Oz wins 2-0!
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
6%
18 total votes
Your vote: Group B Decider Match: Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Group B Decider Match: Game 3
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (5)
45%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
27%
★★★ - Good game (2)
18%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
9%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Group B Decider Match: Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On October 16 2013 10:43 Fanatic-Templar wrote: Deep within my soul, I feel that nothing's like it used to be. Sometimes I wish I could turn back time, impossible as it may seem.
On October 16 2013 10:42 ShowTheLights wrote: Can someone please explain how this affected Naniwa's position?
Scarlett was the most likely person in this group to make it far enough to pass naniwa, this makes it more likely that nobody from WCS NA will manage to get enough points.
On October 16 2013 10:42 ShowTheLights wrote: Can someone please explain how this affected Naniwa's position?
WCS Finals @ Blizzon are decided on total points accumulated over the last 3 seasons. Naniwa and Scarlett were pretty close, but now she didn't get the points required to outrank him.
On October 16 2013 10:42 ShowTheLights wrote: Can someone please explain how this affected Naniwa's position?
Scarlett was one of the people who had the best chance to pass him. Anyway as a person who doesn't care whether a foreigner makes it or not, I fail even more to see how it matters that this foreigner is Naniwa or Scarlett.
God, so much whine. Albeit it is a pity about Scarlett, but there are many sexy nerd ballers to observe in WCS NA. If you can't root for any of HerO, Polt, Jaedong, Spiderman/Hyun, or at least appreciate and enjoy their games then I don't really get what drew you to Starcraft in the first place.
On October 16 2013 10:41 TeslasPigeon wrote: Welp, no point in watching Blizzcon or the rest of WCS.NA.
I might watch blizzcon assuming Naniwa qualifies, but I'm definitely done with WCS NA.
Cmon everyone loves Code A!
Hyun, Polt and HerO aren't bad guys to root for. Though yeah now I think we're all just waiting for Blizzcon if Nani makes it! :D
naw, the only thing I find interesting about SC2 right now is the Foreigner vs korean storyline. Korean vs Korean is a snooze. But then again so is foreigner vs foreigner if its not the absolute cream of the crop.
On October 16 2013 10:41 TeslasPigeon wrote: Welp, no point in watching Blizzcon or the rest of WCS.NA.
I might watch blizzcon assuming Naniwa qualifies, but I'm definitely done with WCS NA.
Cmon everyone loves Code A!
Hyun, Polt and HerO aren't bad guys to root for. Though yeah now I think we're all just waiting for Blizzcon if Nani makes it! :D
naw, the only thing I find interesting about SC2 right now is the Foreigner vs korean storyline. Korean vs Korean is a snooze. But then again so is foreigner vs foreigner if its not the absolute cream of the crop.
maybe im just too picky haha
dont know how you watch sc2 then. cause everything is basically what you hate
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote: If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...
Its not so much scarlett, although I am a fan, its foreigners in general.
I've been watching weekly since 2010, and ive seen thousands of korean vs korean matchups in the finals of nearly all the tournaments. Im just kind of bored of watching it. That doesnt mean Im not a fan.
If you don't want to watch, or only care for foreigner/Korean showdowns, go ahead, by my guest. Stop polluting LR threads with poisonous negativity and let the people who care watch and discuss the games together.
On October 16 2013 10:49 Wombat_NI wrote: Stop fucking bitching, christ.
If you don't want to watch, or only care for foreigner/Korean showdowns, go ahead, by my guest. Stop polluting LR threads with poisonous negativity and let the people who care watch and discuss the games together.
this is more negative than anything else i've seen in the thread though??? other than the guy who posted the middle finger and "bye fangirls" about scarlett losing
there's one dude who posted the same thing about how he hates naniwa like 5 times. who else is "fucking bitching"? i think you need to relax
On October 16 2013 10:49 Wombat_NI wrote: Stop fucking bitching, christ.
If you don't want to watch, or only care for foreigner/Korean showdowns, go ahead, by my guest. Stop polluting LR threads with poisonous negativity and let the people who care watch and discuss the games together.
On October 16 2013 10:49 Wombat_NI wrote: Stop fucking bitching, christ.
If you don't want to watch, or only care for foreigner/Korean showdowns, go ahead, by my guest. Stop polluting LR threads with poisonous negativity and let the people who care watch and discuss the games together.
this is more negative than anything else i've seen in the thread though??? other than the guy who posted the middle finger and "bye fangirls" about scarlett losing
there's one dude who posted the same thing about how he hates naniwa like 5 times. who else is "fucking bitching"? i think you need to relax
lmao. you know that was my first time looking through the smilies ---^ up there. dont hate me for using it when TL is the one who put it in. meant it as more of a joking middle finger since everyone is riding the scarlett train these days.
My point is more a general statement of irritation, wasn't specifically directed at anyone.
My relatively unnoticed 'hiatus' from posting is solely due to being sick of reading countless, negative, whining posts day in, day out. 'LoL vs SC2' 'SC2 is dead' yadda yadda yadda.
Came back to watching the other day and went through the latest IEM and MMA's WCS EU run (spoiler-free somehow!) and had a good time.
You know, hell I got sick of SC2 too, but you know what, go take a break, do something else and come back. It's like getting laid after a big hiatus, it can be more satisfying than your average lay with a 5-a-day nympomaniac.
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote: If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...
I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.
Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.
Wait someone explain how it is even possible for Naniwa to make Blizzcon, Soo will automatically overtake him regardless of what happens in the GSL finals or at the Season 3 finals, as he will get a minimum of 1500 points even if he loses in the worst possible fashion in both of those events. (1000 for WCS KR second place, 500 for 13th-16th at the season finals) This will give him 2300+1500, which is 3800. Dear will also be getting a minimum of 1500 points from these two events taking him up to a total of 3250. Naniwa only has 3200, and no further opportunities to earn points. As Naniwa is currently ranked 14th, when these two players automatically overtake him he will be bumped down to 17th with no further opportunities to earn points....
Vortix could also knock him out with a good showing at WCS Toronto...
I can't see how he makes it, could someone enlighten me?
On October 16 2013 10:52 felisconcolori wrote: Surprise! Arthur vs. Nestea.
why is this game being played now?
Because challenger league is played right after premier group, scarlett might be playing as well (not sure) also someone make a thread for this, I can't
On October 16 2013 10:55 isaachukfan wrote: Wait someone explain how it is even possible for Naniwa to make Blizzcon, Soo will automatically overtake him regardless of what happens in the GSL finals or at the Season 3 finals, as he will get a minimum of 1500 points even if he loses in the worst possible fashion in both of those events. (1000 for WCS KR second place, 500 for 13th-16th at the season finals)
Those points are already counted in his current standing.
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote: If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...
I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.
Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.
i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?
i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot
On October 16 2013 10:55 isaachukfan wrote: Wait someone explain how it is even possible for Naniwa to make Blizzcon, Soo will automatically overtake him regardless of what happens in the GSL finals or at the Season 3 finals, as he will get a minimum of 1500 points even if he loses in the worst possible fashion in both of those events. (1000 for WCS KR second place, 500 for 13th-16th at the season finals) This will give him 2300+1500, which is 3800. Dear will also be getting a minimum of 1500 points from these two events taking him up to a total of 3250. Naniwa only has 3200, and no further opportunities to earn points. As Naniwa is currently ranked 14th, when these two players automatically overtake him he will be bumped down to 17th with no further opportunities to earn points....
I can't see how he makes it, could someone enlighten me?
On October 16 2013 10:49 Wombat_NI wrote: Stop fucking bitching, christ.
If you don't want to watch, or only care for foreigner/Korean showdowns, go ahead, by my guest. Stop polluting LR threads with poisonous negativity and let the people who care watch and discuss the games together.
this is more negative than anything else i've seen in the thread though??? other than the guy who posted the middle finger and "bye fangirls" about scarlett losing
there's one dude who posted the same thing about how he hates naniwa like 5 times. who else is "fucking bitching"? i think you need to relax
Its directed at the good ole "I wont watch WCS now because blablabla!" and "Viewership will drop because nagnagnag." comments.
On October 16 2013 10:55 isaachukfan wrote: Wait someone explain how it is even possible for Naniwa to make Blizzcon, Soo will automatically overtake him regardless of what happens in the GSL finals or at the Season 3 finals, as he will get a minimum of 1500 points even if he loses in the worst possible fashion in both of those events. (1000 for WCS KR second place, 500 for 13th-16th at the season finals) This will give him 2300+1500, which is 3800. Dear will also be getting a minimum of 1500 points from these two events taking him up to a total of 3250. Naniwa only has 3200, and no further opportunities to earn points. As Naniwa is currently ranked 14th, when these two players automatically overtake him he will be bumped down to 17th with no further opportunities to earn points....
I can't see how he makes it, could someone enlighten me?
On October 16 2013 10:45 TAMinator wrote: if we have 0 foreigners in Blizzcon we'll lose half the viewership
The GSL finals were great at BlizzCon along with the Blizzcon invitational. While it was nice to see foreigners they were outplayed in the first rounds.
Good mix of races and fan favorites, it will be a great tournament.
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote: If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...
I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.
Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.
i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?
i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot
It's a simple distinction between being a fan of the game itself, and being a fan/supporter of a player/team, with maybe only a passing interest in the scene as a whole.
I mean, if I stop watching a tennis tournament because say, Roger Federer is out, versus a guy who watches all the way to completion regardless, it's not to say you're not a 'real' fan perhaps, but he'd definitely be considered a more dedicated/neutral one to me.
On October 16 2013 10:55 isaachukfan wrote: Wait someone explain how it is even possible for Naniwa to make Blizzcon, Soo will automatically overtake him regardless of what happens in the GSL finals or at the Season 3 finals, as he will get a minimum of 1500 points even if he loses in the worst possible fashion in both of those events. (1000 for WCS KR second place, 500 for 13th-16th at the season finals) This will give him 2300+1500, which is 3800. Dear will also be getting a minimum of 1500 points from these two events taking him up to a total of 3250. Naniwa only has 3200, and no further opportunities to earn points. As Naniwa is currently ranked 14th, when these two players automatically overtake him he will be bumped down to 17th with no further opportunities to earn points....
I can't see how he makes it, could someone enlighten me?
IDK ask Die4Ever
I did!
That's what he had to say.
For Naniwa -------------------------------------------Scarlett gets 16th place in America Premier This happens 38.156% of the time. When it does, it increases NaNiwa's chances to 44.123%.
Running the new stats now which will be more accurate with current results. edit: that's up from 30.2%
On October 16 2013 10:45 TAMinator wrote: if we have 0 foreigners in Blizzcon we'll lose half the viewership
The GSL finals were great at BlizzCon along with the Blizzcon invitational. While it was nice to see foreigners they were outplayed in the first rounds.
Good mix of races and fan favorites, it will be a great tournament.
Select just BARELY didn't beat Mvp. Was a pretty good tourney. I count him as a foreigner.
On October 16 2013 10:49 Wombat_NI wrote: Stop fucking bitching, christ.
If you don't want to watch, or only care for foreigner/Korean showdowns, go ahead, by my guest. Stop polluting LR threads with poisonous negativity and let the people who care watch and discuss the games together.
this is more negative than anything else i've seen in the thread though??? other than the guy who posted the middle finger and "bye fangirls" about scarlett losing
there's one dude who posted the same thing about how he hates naniwa like 5 times. who else is "fucking bitching"? i think you need to relax
Its directed at the good ole "I wont watch WCS now because blablabla!" and "Viewership will drop because nagnagnag." comments.
yea but those were all just individual people posting their opinions, which they're entitled to. i don't think that amounts to "bitching" or "negativity," it's people who were watching the games sharing their feelings about the tournament. as long as it's not like one person or the same couple of people starting arguments for pages and pages, i don't see the problem with it
On October 16 2013 10:55 isaachukfan wrote: Wait someone explain how it is even possible for Naniwa to make Blizzcon, Soo will automatically overtake him regardless of what happens in the GSL finals or at the Season 3 finals, as he will get a minimum of 1500 points even if he loses in the worst possible fashion in both of those events. (1000 for WCS KR second place, 500 for 13th-16th at the season finals) This will give him 2300+1500, which is 3800. Dear will also be getting a minimum of 1500 points from these two events taking him up to a total of 3250. Naniwa only has 3200, and no further opportunities to earn points. As Naniwa is currently ranked 14th, when these two players automatically overtake him he will be bumped down to 17th with no further opportunities to earn points....
Vortix could also knock him out with a good showing at WCS Toronto...
I can't see how he makes it, could someone enlighten me?
soo's 2300 already INCLUDES the minimum he woudl get for gsl finals and season 3 finals
On October 16 2013 10:49 Wombat_NI wrote: Stop fucking bitching, christ.
If you don't want to watch, or only care for foreigner/Korean showdowns, go ahead, by my guest. Stop polluting LR threads with poisonous negativity and let the people who care watch and discuss the games together.
this is more negative than anything else i've seen in the thread though??? other than the guy who posted the middle finger and "bye fangirls" about scarlett losing
there's one dude who posted the same thing about how he hates naniwa like 5 times. who else is "fucking bitching"? i think you need to relax
Its directed at the good ole "I wont watch WCS now because blablabla!" and "Viewership will drop because nagnagnag." comments.
yea but those were all just individual people posting their opinions, which they're entitled to. i don't think that amounts to "bitching" or "negativity," it's people who were watching the games sharing their feelings about the tournament. as long as it's not like one person or the same couple of people starting arguments for pages and pages, i don't see the problem with it
And we're stating our opinion on their opinion, which we're entitled to do.
Tis a vicious circle if you adopt that mentality y'know, may as well make arbitrary cutoffs as to what is acceptable/not in an LR thread.
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote: If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...
I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.
Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.
i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?
i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot
It's a simple distinction between being a fan of the game itself, and being a fan/supporter of a player/team, with maybe only a passing interest in the scene as a whole.
I mean, if I stop watching a tennis tournament because say, Roger Federer is out, versus a guy who watches all the way to completion regardless, it's not to say you're not a 'real' fan perhaps, but he'd definitely be considered a more dedicated/neutral one to me.
How can it be, you're asking me to feel the things you never show?
On October 16 2013 10:55 isaachukfan wrote: Wait someone explain how it is even possible for Naniwa to make Blizzcon, Soo will automatically overtake him regardless of what happens in the GSL finals or at the Season 3 finals, as he will get a minimum of 1500 points even if he loses in the worst possible fashion in both of those events. (1000 for WCS KR second place, 500 for 13th-16th at the season finals) This will give him 2300+1500, which is 3800. Dear will also be getting a minimum of 1500 points from these two events taking him up to a total of 3250. Naniwa only has 3200, and no further opportunities to earn points. As Naniwa is currently ranked 14th, when these two players automatically overtake him he will be bumped down to 17th with no further opportunities to earn points....
I can't see how he makes it, could someone enlighten me?
You're forgetting that Dear and soO's points are already calculated into TL. For example, soO have 2300 points after 2nd place and 16th place in S3 Finals. If soO made 1st at blizzcon he'd be at 2800 points. If he then made Ro8 at S3 he'd be at 3050. He needs to make at least Ro4 to knock out naniwa.
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote: If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...
I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.
Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.
i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?
i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot
It's a simple distinction between being a fan of the game itself, and being a fan/supporter of a player/team, with maybe only a passing interest in the scene as a whole.
I mean, if I stop watching a tennis tournament because say, Roger Federer is out, versus a guy who watches all the way to completion regardless, it's not to say you're not a 'real' fan perhaps, but he'd definitely be considered a more dedicated/neutral one to me.
Haha you realize that's how the vast majority of people think right? Why would I watch sports if my favourite team is not there? Sure I may watch the Superbowl or the Stanley Cup because it is a major once per year event, but there is no way I'm watching games that my favorite team or player isn't playing in. And I DEFINATELY wont watch games where I have to watch a player I hate (in this case Naniwa). If I only cared about Starcraft scene for the games, I would just go and play myself.
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote: If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...
I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.
Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.
i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?
i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot
I feel like you aren't a fan of the game itself if you only watch when one specific player plays. I don't think you are a cooler person or part of some club if you are a bigger fan . Idk not trying to start some big thing.
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote: If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...
I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.
Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.
i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?
i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot
It's a simple distinction between being a fan of the game itself, and being a fan/supporter of a player/team, with maybe only a passing interest in the scene as a whole.
I mean, if I stop watching a tennis tournament because say, Roger Federer is out, versus a guy who watches all the way to completion regardless, it's not to say you're not a 'real' fan perhaps, but he'd definitely be considered a more dedicated/neutral one to me.
my question was what is the point of the distinction? i always see the "real" fans talking about who is or isn't a "real fan", and i'm talking about real sports too where i've seen the same thing (baseball football etc.). i'm honestly just at a loss for why you would say to someone "you're not a real fan!" like, what are they supposed to do? apologize?
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote: If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...
I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.
Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.
i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?
i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot
It's a simple distinction between being a fan of the game itself, and being a fan/supporter of a player/team, with maybe only a passing interest in the scene as a whole.
I mean, if I stop watching a tennis tournament because say, Roger Federer is out, versus a guy who watches all the way to completion regardless, it's not to say you're not a 'real' fan perhaps, but he'd definitely be considered a more dedicated/neutral one to me.
Haha you realize that's how the vast majority of people think right? Why would I watch sports if my favourite team is not there? Sure I may watch the Superbowl or the Stanley Cup because it is a major once per year event, but there is no way I'm watching games that my favorite team or player isn't playing in. And I DEFINATELY wont watch games where I have to watch a player I hate (in this case Naniwa). If I only cared about Starcraft scene for the games, I would just go and play myself.
Blizzcon is basically the superbowl or stanley cup though
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote: If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...
if you don't watch every single sc2 game streamed on the internet, you're not a fan of sc2. watch all the games or you don't have ESPORTS PASSION
There's so much SC2 content it's not even funny... WAY too much.
I respectfully disagree. This is not 2012.
2012 was tough. Really tough. But this year is impossible.
I'm not seeing it, sorry. In 2012, I never had a problem watching a tournament of some kind going on at any time. I'm finding times where I look at the Live Streams and Events listing, and I just can't find anything.
On October 16 2013 11:00 Wombat_NI wrote: And we're stating our opinion on their opinion, which we're entitled to do.
Tis a vicious circle if you adopt that mentality y'know, may as well make arbitrary cutoffs as to what is acceptable/not in an LR thread.
of course, but up until your post i didn't see anyone really being rude or negative in my opinion, then you came along and made a (seemingly angry) post saying "STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE!!!" it just seemed odd to me. but it's all a matter of interpretations, so it's obviously not a big deal. i just think if you want to discourage people from being negative, yelling at them might not be the best deterrent not trying to insult or criticize though
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote: If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...
I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.
Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.
i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?
i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot
It's a simple distinction between being a fan of the game itself, and being a fan/supporter of a player/team, with maybe only a passing interest in the scene as a whole.
I mean, if I stop watching a tennis tournament because say, Roger Federer is out, versus a guy who watches all the way to completion regardless, it's not to say you're not a 'real' fan perhaps, but he'd definitely be considered a more dedicated/neutral one to me.
my question was what is the point of the distinction? i always see the "real" fans talking about who is or isn't a "real fan", and i'm talking about real sports too where i've seen the same thing (baseball football etc.). i'm honestly just at a loss for why you would say to someone "you're not a real fan!" like, what are they supposed to do? apologize?
No I guess they are supposed to just not watch? Idk. I dunno maybe my statement was dumb
Either way I'm not sure what I care about more. With Naniwa, Blizzcon gets viewers and Starcraft prospers, but I have to watch him. If he isn't there, I will feel better inside but we will have less viewers. It is a tough decision which side to take.
On October 16 2013 11:04 Applesmack wrote: Either way I'm not sure what I care about more. With Naniwa, Blizzcon gets viewers and Starcraft prospers, but I have to watch him. If he isn't there, I will feel better inside but we will have less viewers. It is a tough decision which side to take.
On October 16 2013 11:04 Applesmack wrote: Either way I'm not sure what I care about more. With Naniwa, Blizzcon gets viewers and Starcraft prospers, but I have to watch him. If he isn't there, I will feel better inside but we will have less viewers. It is a tough decision which side to take.
Sc will prosper fine with or without Naniwa being at Blizzcon.
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote: If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...
I hope it's a joke cause if it's not it's pretty stupid. I think alot of people stop watching tournaments in any sport once their favourite is out.
Yeah but I don't skip the playoffs if the Patriots miss them. (American football reference) If you can't bring yourself to watch the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS because Scarlett isn't there, then you aren't a fan of SC2. I stand by it.
i never understood this. what does it mean that you aren't a fan/real fan? and so what if you aren't? does that mean i don't get to sit at the real fans table?
i'm not trying to start an argument, i just don't get the point of saying it. to me a fan is someone who follows the game at all. it's not a competition of who likes the game more. some people are into it a little bit and some people are into it a lot
It's a simple distinction between being a fan of the game itself, and being a fan/supporter of a player/team, with maybe only a passing interest in the scene as a whole.
I mean, if I stop watching a tennis tournament because say, Roger Federer is out, versus a guy who watches all the way to completion regardless, it's not to say you're not a 'real' fan perhaps, but he'd definitely be considered a more dedicated/neutral one to me.
Haha you realize that's how the vast majority of people think right? Why would I watch sports if my favourite team is not there? Sure I may watch the Superbowl or the Stanley Cup because it is a major once per year event, but there is no way I'm watching games that my favorite team or player isn't playing in. And I DEFINATELY wont watch games where I have to watch a player I hate (in this case Naniwa). If I only cared about Starcraft scene for the games, I would just go and play myself.
Most people might be more likely to watch if their favourites are involved sure, but major sporting events have viewing figures that absolutely dwarf the entire populations of the competing nations/teams oftenplace.
Why would you not watch a player you hate, and root against him?
WCS Finals are meant to be the equivalent of the aforementioned events, the World Championship after all?
Watching the competitive scene for quality of games and going to play the game yourself are different. I mean I can go and pass a football around, it's not the same thing as watching the pros doing it from the comfort of my own home, with the fans and the atmosphere and the excitement around it.
On October 16 2013 11:04 Applesmack wrote: Either way I'm not sure what I care about more. With Naniwa, Blizzcon gets viewers and Starcraft prospers, but I have to watch him. If he isn't there, I will feel better inside but we will have less viewers. It is a tough decision which side to take.
Sc will prosper fine with or without Naniwa being at Blizzcon.
Shh, you're disrupting the storyline.
Although Naniwa even being in contention for the spot, alongside Scarlett until she lost tonight, might say something to the wider community as a whole. They both have spent an awful lot of time in Korea, even if Naniwa hasn't been there in 6 months.
On October 16 2013 11:00 Wombat_NI wrote: And we're stating our opinion on their opinion, which we're entitled to do.
Tis a vicious circle if you adopt that mentality y'know, may as well make arbitrary cutoffs as to what is acceptable/not in an LR thread.
of course, but up until your post i didn't see anyone really being rude or negative in my opinion, then you came along and made a (seemingly angry) post saying "STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE!!!" it just seemed odd to me. but it's all a matter of interpretations, so it's obviously not a big deal. i just think if you want to discourage people from being negative, yelling at them might not be the best deterrent not trying to insult or criticize though
On October 16 2013 10:45 Darkhoarse wrote: If you stop watching WCS/Blizzcon because Scarlett is out, you're not a fan of SC2...
if you don't watch every single sc2 game streamed on the internet, you're not a fan of sc2. watch all the games or you don't have ESPORTS PASSION
There's so much SC2 content it's not even funny... WAY too much.
I respectfully disagree. This is not 2012.
2012 was tough. Really tough. But this year is impossible.
I'm not seeing it, sorry. In 2012, I never had a problem watching a tournament of some kind going on at any time. I'm finding times where I look at the Live Streams and Events listing, and I just can't find anything.
I am hoping that Naniwa makes it because we really need a foreigner at Blizzcon to increase interest in the tournament/ I am not optimistic though. I understand the percentages above but my guess is that it is highly unlikely that players such as Soo, Dear, Hyun or even Trap don't earn enough points in Season 3 finals to pass him in the standings. Which of course means Blizzcon simply becomes WCS Korea 2.0 and I think that will really hurt the interest in Blizzcon.
When WCS is fully running you can have a good 6 hours a day of quality tournament content on weekdays plus streams. So I think 2013 content level is pretty cool.
On October 16 2013 11:15 Wombat_NI wrote: I haven't gotten those ads, that said I did sneak ad-block onto my gf's computer.
Alas I can't watch Twitch AT ALL at my place atm, fucking mandatory flash upgrades :@
Once upon a time, Flash was a great thing. It enabled so much wonderful things on the web.
Now it's a bloody pox on computer performance and I can't wait until it is enshrined in the dark depths of web technologies superceded. Like the blink and marquee tags. (I blame Adobe.)
Okay, I'm going back on-topic now. Nestea gonna Nestea.
To be honest, as someone who wasn't a big follower when he was at his peak I never really worshipped at his altar, but still sad to see him in his current shape.
On October 16 2013 11:15 Wombat_NI wrote: I haven't gotten those ads, that said I did sneak ad-block onto my gf's computer.
Alas I can't watch Twitch AT ALL at my place atm, fucking mandatory flash upgrades :@
Once upon a time, Flash was a great thing. It enabled so much wonderful things on the web.
Now it's a bloody pox on computer performance and I can't wait until it is enshrined in the dark depths of web technologies superceded. Like the blink and marquee tags. (I blame Adobe.)
Okay, I'm going back on-topic now. Nestea gonna Nestea.
You seem to know more than me. I've noticed my PC is getting slow as fuck of late, regardless of my upkeeping it seems every new update to software just makes them more processor intensive.
Not an issue, but there seems a trend now that devs simply do not let you use older versions of shit, and demand you upgrade. Bastards
To be honest, as someone who wasn't a big follower when he was at his peak I never really worshipped at his altar, but still sad to see him in his current shape.
I think, where he's at right now, it's "I've made my money. I still play better than just about everyone else my age. I'm good."
On October 16 2013 11:15 Wombat_NI wrote: I haven't gotten those ads, that said I did sneak ad-block onto my gf's computer.
Alas I can't watch Twitch AT ALL at my place atm, fucking mandatory flash upgrades :@
Once upon a time, Flash was a great thing. It enabled so much wonderful things on the web.
Now it's a bloody pox on computer performance and I can't wait until it is enshrined in the dark depths of web technologies superceded. Like the blink and marquee tags. (I blame Adobe.)
Okay, I'm going back on-topic now. Nestea gonna Nestea.
You seem to know more than me. I've noticed my PC is getting slow as fuck of late, regardless of my upkeeping it seems every new update to software just makes them more processor intensive.
Not an issue, but there seems a trend now that devs simply do not let you use older versions of shit, and demand you upgrade. Bastards
I've watched it happen over time. And yeah, software is being written with less emphasis on efficient use of resources - then again when I was in college (~ 1995 - 2000 and some more recently) my professors repeated the following phrase: "Memory is cheap, don't be afraid to use it." I'm guessing that lack of optimization culture has only grown. (Oblig - Get off my lawn.)
Wang chung sounds vaguely obscene, I misread initially as 'wang chug' which is even more filthy.
I don't really see him being at that stage, as a non-devotee I'd always felt mechanics were his relative weakpoint, and his game understanding and starsense etc were where he excelled. The problem with being a player so reliant on shaping the strategic handbook, is that when others with better mechanics catch up in that regard, you have to continually revolutionise to keep up; if you're that kind of player.
On October 16 2013 11:28 Wombat_NI wrote: Wang chung sounds vaguely obscene, I misread initially as 'wang chug' which is even more filthy.
I don't really see him being at that stage, as a non-devotee I'd always felt mechanics were his relative weakpoint, and his game understanding and starsense etc were where he excelled. The problem with being a player so reliant on shaping the strategic handbook, is that when others with better mechanics catch up in that regard, you have to continually revolutionise to keep up; if you're that kind of player.
80s song playing to a Borderlands 2 commercial. Not a bad song, for the 80s, actually.
Honestly, far worse than foreigners being out is that I'm sick of seeing what amount to the same exact games say, 75% of the time. Even when their play is incredible and precise and meticulous and well controlled, I just don't care seeing those perfect surrounds or forcefields of stuttersteps for the 1000th time.
Now that I think about it in retrospect I should have been more scared for scarlett in this group. MacSed has definitely been playing well lately in other tournaments and Oz beat her last season. Oh well. Hopefully she can win a WCS AM season in 2014. I think she has the talent.
On October 16 2013 11:03 Fanatic-Templar wrote: While everyone was busy with the drama, I've been sneaking Backstreet Boys lyrics into this thread.
No need to thank me.
Backstreet's back, alright!
Thank you, thank you.
It makes the fact that I now have searches for Backstreet Boys music videos and lyrics enshrined in both my Google and Youtube history completely worth it .
On October 16 2013 11:28 Wombat_NI wrote: Wang chung sounds vaguely obscene, I misread initially as 'wang chug' which is even more filthy.
I don't really see him being at that stage, as a non-devotee I'd always felt mechanics were his relative weakpoint, and his game understanding and starsense etc were where he excelled. The problem with being a player so reliant on shaping the strategic handbook, is that when others with better mechanics catch up in that regard, you have to continually revolutionise to keep up; if you're that kind of player.
80s song playing to a Borderlands 2 commercial. Not a bad song, for the 80s, actually.
On October 16 2013 11:28 Wombat_NI wrote: Wang chung sounds vaguely obscene, I misread initially as 'wang chug' which is even more filthy.
I don't really see him being at that stage, as a non-devotee I'd always felt mechanics were his relative weakpoint, and his game understanding and starsense etc were where he excelled. The problem with being a player so reliant on shaping the strategic handbook, is that when others with better mechanics catch up in that regard, you have to continually revolutionise to keep up; if you're that kind of player.
80s song playing to a Borderlands 2 commercial. Not a bad song, for the 80s, actually.
1. you post wang chung song 2. you imply 80s music sucks 3. you choose the worst song ever made in the 80s and say its not bad for the 80s.
so by your backwards logic, U2 the Joshua Tree and Michael Jackson's Thriller suck ballz... but at least the 80s produced Wang Chung.
I lived the 80s. Don't tell me what it was like. There was no logic there, it was empirical. And for the 80s, yes, that wasn't bad. Would you rather I come up with something worse? "Not bad" does not mean "oh my god this sucks".
On October 16 2013 11:28 Wombat_NI wrote: Wang chung sounds vaguely obscene, I misread initially as 'wang chug' which is even more filthy.
I don't really see him being at that stage, as a non-devotee I'd always felt mechanics were his relative weakpoint, and his game understanding and starsense etc were where he excelled. The problem with being a player so reliant on shaping the strategic handbook, is that when others with better mechanics catch up in that regard, you have to continually revolutionise to keep up; if you're that kind of player.
80s song playing to a Borderlands 2 commercial. Not a bad song, for the 80s, actually.
1. you post wang chung song 2. you imply 80s music sucks 3. you choose the worst song ever made in the 80s and say its not bad for the 80s.
so by your backwards logic, U2 the Joshua Tree and Michael Jackson's Thriller suck ballz... but at least the 80s produced Wang Chung.
I lived the 80s. Don't tell me what it was like. There was no logic there, it was empirical. And for the 80s, yes, that wasn't bad. Would you rather I come up with something worse? "Not bad" does not mean "oh my god this sucks".
You may have lived in the 80's but you were the guy sitting in the corner on the dancefloor refusing to do blow with the club owner and his entourage only to go home and collect pogs.
Scarlett only lost because she took a break due to fucked up wrists. Same reason why taeja lost to jd yesterday. Fucked up wrists. Scarlett is a much much better player than oz will ever be. Looks like another off day for her. She and taeja needs to stop this break thing. Or go get wrist surgery or something so they won't stop losing to Korean players who they would normally outplay in every single way and sense.
On October 16 2013 16:14 ladysman09 wrote: Scarlett only lost because she took a break due to fucked up wrists. Same reason why taeja lost to jd yesterday. Fucked up wrists. Scarlett is a much much better player than oz will ever be. Looks like another off day for her. She and taeja needs to stop this break thing. Or go get wrist surgery or something so they won't stop losing to Korean players who they would normally outplay in every single way and sense.
Progamers would appreciate if you didn't try to find exucses for them.
On October 16 2013 11:04 Applesmack wrote: Either way I'm not sure what I care about more. With Naniwa, Blizzcon gets viewers and Starcraft prospers, but I have to watch him. If he isn't there, I will feel better inside but we will have less viewers. It is a tough decision which side to take.
Sc will prosper fine with or without Naniwa being at Blizzcon.
Just like Sc1 did, but is it the same as Sc2 in terms of the reach? I don't think so!
I have heard about many people who tuned in for IEM NYC just because of Naniwa... I mean, just because of one foreigner. People in TL don't get this, because most of them are hardcore Sc fans, and for them it doesn't matter. But if you care for a wider spread of Sc then it should matter for you.
Too bad, Scarlett at Toronto and Blizzcon would've done a lot for the hype. Well Jaedong wins both anyways, so whatever. I'm sure Scarlett will come back stronger next year and there are still team leagues.
Very sad Scarlett didn't make it. I have said this on many posts. But all korean finals is boring................I am not as invested in them at all. AT least an EG player is advancing, so I can root for that even though I don't care for OZ.
On October 16 2013 16:14 ladysman09 wrote: Scarlett only lost because she took a break due to fucked up wrists. Same reason why taeja lost to jd yesterday. Fucked up wrists. Scarlett is a much much better player than oz will ever be. Looks like another off day for her. She and taeja needs to stop this break thing. Or go get wrist surgery or something so they won't stop losing to Korean players who they would normally outplay in every single way and sense.
You clearly haven't followed Oz's career have you ?
On October 16 2013 16:14 ladysman09 wrote: Scarlett only lost because she took a break due to fucked up wrists. Same reason why taeja lost to jd yesterday. Fucked up wrists. Scarlett is a much much better player than oz will ever be. Looks like another off day for her. She and taeja needs to stop this break thing. Or go get wrist surgery or something so they won't stop losing to Korean players who they would normally outplay in every single way and sense.
Probably just a troll but Oz has much better results across his career than Scarlett.
EPT![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/shiroiusagi/wcs/wcs_na_lr.jpg)
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WCS America![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SBw9V.png)
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Oz vs 
Scarlett vs ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mg8TA.png)
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Again, we need more volunteers. Anyone who watches games regularly and types really, really fast has qualifications to become an LRer.
I think Scarlett will win with hopefully Oz second.
i dunno
either way its safe to say I shouldn't be a rapper.![[image loading]](http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/choo-choo-motherfucker.jpg)
bye fan girls
