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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
October 11 2013 22:34 GMT
#2581
On October 12 2013 07:29 NovemberstOrm wrote:
so much whine it's quite pathetic tbh.


Well when someone wins a game that they really wouldn't have if Mech wasn't so freaking awful in SC2 then maybe I wouldn't be complaining. He couldn't split up his army to defend his bases due to the fact tanks are god damned terrible and it means the zerg can just run around you for free all game long just killing bases you can't defend with anything. They then force it to a low econ game despite being hugely behind and just win with vipers. Without the vipers Curios was down and dead long before.

He played whack-a-mole thanks to the immobility of mech and completely abused the fact you can't defend your bases with anything or your army gets rolled over. I'm not sure what's so great about that. It's like winning a kick-boxing match against a man with no legs and claiming an amazing victory.
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Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
October 11 2013 22:34 GMT
#2582
Serious question. I watched some of HTO Marios stuff lately and I cant help but wonder if that style wouldnt have faired heaps better in this game. Thoughts?
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45070 Posts
October 11 2013 22:34 GMT
#2583
San is trying really hard to overcommit after killing Revival's third base, but Revival is countering that by pushing out off creep into an arc of stalkers.
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Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
October 11 2013 22:34 GMT
#2584
On October 12 2013 07:29 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:28 Prog455 wrote:
On October 12 2013 07:26 ptbl wrote:
Flash never got a critical amount of vikings to deal with the vipers. He should have stop making so many thors when the muta switch was over.


This pretty much. I am surprised that so many people blame Vipers, when in fact Flash played quite poorly.


There's the same reaction every single time a favored terran player loses, how can you be surprised^^

Often time, especially against Protoss, it is actually painful to watch a Terran play almost perfect all game long, and lose because of a single mistake.

This game however was terrible. As someone already mentioned Flash did not manage to keep his army together at critical times. Also he lost almost half of his army killing Curious' natural when it was basicly already mined out. I would actually like to see a "resume-from-replay" of this game, because there seems to be countless of times where Flash could have turned the game in his favor, but dropped the ball big time.
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
October 11 2013 22:34 GMT
#2585
On October 12 2013 07:32 looken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:22 b0rt_ wrote:
terran tears are the best

User was warned for this post

funny how this got a warning but all the "sc is sooo shit" "zerg is so fucking OP" "this game is shit, kill david kim" stuff is left untouched... sometimes i really wonder :D


Who's a worse offender, the user who is temporarily upset, or the user who's quite calm and just stirring up more shit for fun?
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
Latto
Profile Joined April 2011
235 Posts
October 11 2013 22:34 GMT
#2586
On October 12 2013 07:25 Ammanas wrote:
If people would stop balance whining pls, the real question is - did Flash at all have an option, throughout the game, to get ghosts? If so, there is no balance problem. If not, there may be.

Well Flash definitely did not play that game to max potential but that doesn't nullify the fact that vipers abduct ability makes getting ANY unit of value in the matchup absolutely pointless and just a money dump.
Vs Protoss, what is the point of ever getting collosi when your opponent has vipers out? They will be instantly abducted and killed off without doing anything.

And the fact that the consume ability makes for mass back to back abducts like we saw in the last game.
It would at least be somewhat understandable if the viper functioned more like the Queen did back in BW where you could use that parasite skill that insta killed and spawned 2 broodlings but then the Queen had to wait for energy to pile back up again which took quite some time.
instead they infused the defiler with it's skill that gathers energy making the unit just seem broken.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 22:34 GMT
#2587
Revival what was that?
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wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
October 11 2013 22:35 GMT
#2588
Almost forgot
On October 12 2013 06:09 Paljas wrote:
i have to go now :/
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 22:35 GMT
#2589
San did it. He just Mc'd Revival out of a game where Revival was up 60 supply and 4 bases to 2.
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MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
October 11 2013 22:35 GMT
#2590
San takes game one!
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Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 11 2013 22:35 GMT
#2591
On October 12 2013 07:32 looken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:22 b0rt_ wrote:
terran tears are the best

User was warned for this post

funny how this got a warning but all the "sc is sooo shit" "zerg is so fucking OP" "this game is shit, kill david kim" stuff is left untouched... sometimes i really wonder :D

probably a warning from a flash fanboy
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Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
October 11 2013 22:35 GMT
#2592
you can't really mech in this matchup, it's not the designers fault that flash doesn't know that
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 11 2013 22:35 GMT
#2593
On October 12 2013 07:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
San is trying really hard to overcommit after killing Revival's third base, but Revival is countering that by pushing out off creep into an arc of stalkers.

San is just too much MAN to not overcommit a little bit.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 11 2013 22:35 GMT
#2594
On October 12 2013 07:32 Jerom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:28 PoP wrote:
On October 12 2013 07:23 Jerom wrote:
Yes, that was definitely very lame. I don't think curious deserved the win here. Maybe this wil open he eyes of blizzard.


I think he played extremely well.

I think Flash shouldn't have lost in that position, even with mech vs vipers (ravens are an extremely good later game option).

I came in later in the game. I saw a 120 supply 3 base mech player vs a 120 supply 3 base zerg player, with the mech player pushing into the zergs main. Even in WoL (where zergs were pretty OP) that'd have been gg 100% of the time. I didn't see flash make huuuuge mistakes, so I don't think how it can be justified for him to have lost. Just a (in my eyes) pretty logical deduction. It's being supported by the fact that almost nobody plays mech anyways in pro matches. The fun part is that he started falling more and more behind the second vipers came onto the field aswell..

he started falling behind because he kept losing his 4th base while his entire army was busy not doing much but blowing up a dead hive. At that time curious had almost 1k minerals while flash was constantly at 0. He then lost two separate fleets of vikings to abducts while carelessly flying them around.
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
October 11 2013 22:36 GMT
#2595
Who's the girl on the mlg stream?
We know nothing.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
October 11 2013 22:36 GMT
#2596
On October 12 2013 07:35 Vari wrote:
you can't really mech in this matchup, it's not the designers fault that flash doesn't know that

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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 22:36 GMT
#2597
On October 12 2013 07:29 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:28 Prog455 wrote:
On October 12 2013 07:26 ptbl wrote:
Flash never got a critical amount of vikings to deal with the vipers. He should have stop making so many thors when the muta switch was over.


This pretty much. I am surprised that so many people blame Vipers, when in fact Flash played quite poorly.


There's the same reaction every single time a favored terran player loses, how can you be surprised^^

It's not just when fan favorite terran players lose, it's from all races. You were trying to point out people crying IMBA and then you basically cried IMBA
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 22:36 GMT
#2598
On October 12 2013 07:34 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:29 NovemberstOrm wrote:
so much whine it's quite pathetic tbh.


Well when someone wins a game that they really wouldn't have if Mech wasn't so freaking awful in SC2 then maybe I wouldn't be complaining. He couldn't split up his army to defend his bases due to the fact tanks are god damned terrible and it means the zerg can just run around you for free all game long just killing bases you can't defend with anything. They then force it to a low econ game despite being hugely behind and just win with vipers. Without the vipers Curios was down and dead long before.

He played whack-a-mole thanks to the immobility of mech and completely abused the fact you can't defend your bases with anything or your army gets rolled over. I'm not sure what's so great about that. It's like winning a kick-boxing match against a man with no legs and claiming an amazing victory.


It was pretty amazing.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 22:36 GMT
#2599
On October 12 2013 07:36 Amestir wrote:
Who's the girl on the mlg stream?

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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 11 2013 22:36 GMT
#2600
I love Zombiegrub's jacket.
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