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On September 15 2013 22:16 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:13 Schnurres wrote:
The casters are calling out games way to fast. They often don't even wait for an attack to hit and already say "I don't see any way from him holding this. XX won this."
Game 3 between Jaedong and sOs was already called out by the caster as unwinnable for sOs after the baneling bust was about to hit unscouted. Casters talked like there is no way sOs can hold it with the stargate.
Game 1 between Nerchio and Life was so often called as win for Life. Pretty much every engage until the last one Nerchio won i just heard how good life does it in what excellent shape he is and that he will win.
Elfi vs Stardust where Elfi pulls the probes. Casters talked before the attack only about how it will fail and StarDust will win the game.
And there are more examples. I mean they just miss out on so much hype. It would be way better to stop calling out games before engagements and just saying it favours someone, but this constantly "there is no way he is gonna hold" "with this he will win the game" is annoying and takes away the hype :/
Just because one got the bigger or better army it is no autowin. It still depends on the last fight. They took a guess that they would play right from now on. In each of games you described soon enough after call there was some stupid blunder. They were correct (maybe overvaluing Life's lead in that game against Nerchio) but the guy with lead effectively threw it away.
Yeah but I think that's exactly what's wrong. Casters should not assume that players execute everything perfectly, that the micro is even between players, the engagement will be even etc.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 15 2013 22:18 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:16 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 15 2013 22:15 Tanzklaue wrote:On September 15 2013 22:15 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 15 2013 22:13 Swisslink wrote:
No more Zerg for Life to meet - he's gonna win this tournament :-P Summer is not over yet and SuperNova is on freaking fire. and on the other side are innovation and mma, who could really ruin life's day. I am not worried for top side of bracket, since ForGG is there Given how handily Taeja beat Inno and MMA yesterday, I wouldn't really be surprised to see ForGG beat them both and make the finals.
That's what i meant
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United States15275 Posts
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On September 15 2013 22:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:12 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 22:09 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
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The korean casts are SCRIPTED.
Scripted=BORING No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting. This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. Maybe people enjoy both. Well you are obviously getting one of them. On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
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The korean casts are SCRIPTED.
Scripted=BORING No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting. This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise. Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience... Audience, that watches LoL? Apollo and Artosis will enable you-are-newbs-mode at finals, as they are TV'd Didn't stop the Koreans from offering up high level analysis of the gameplay. On September 15 2013 22:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
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The korean casts are SCRIPTED.
Scripted=BORING No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting. This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. Maybe people enjoy both. Well you are obviously getting one of them. On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
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The korean casts are SCRIPTED.
Scripted=BORING No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting. This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise. Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience... One of the things Day9 talked about in his dailies is trying to cater to everyone, the people who know only the basics of SC2 should find some sort of information to glean from the casts without boring the guys like us who know what's going on from the production tab. You can't get 100% and each caster finds his own way of catering to as many as they can. But what everyone can relate to is shitty jokes ^_^ Is that what he is trying nowadays? I remember that dailies were used to be him going into extreme nuances of the game in terms of build, timing, and decisions. Even in the dailies he would say things like "X player is messing up, he hasn't produced enough drones" in a way that implies to people who might not understand everything in the commentary that you should constantly produce drones.
Not exactly, its a tradeoff. If you constantly try to produce drones, you won't have enough army for that huge lategame engagement. You might not even survive a push by opponent OR you may not even have enough resources to do so even. Zerg are played upon economical risks and awards. So no you shouldn't be CONSTANTLY producing drones but rather choose to so at appropriate pace.
If that's truly what the dailies are saying, then lulz to that.
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That guy must drown in pussy :D
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On September 15 2013 22:19 provrorsbarn wrote:
The audience looks like hostages
this is incorrect. i saw some foot tapping. they're clearly having a fun, but SAFE time.
ain't no fun like safe fun!
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terran op
User was temp banned for this post.
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On September 15 2013 22:19 NarutO wrote:
That guy must drown in pussy :D
Offcourse how else did he get such a beard.
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United States23455 Posts
On September 15 2013 22:19 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:18 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 15 2013 22:16 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 15 2013 22:15 Tanzklaue wrote:On September 15 2013 22:15 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 15 2013 22:13 Swisslink wrote:
No more Zerg for Life to meet - he's gonna win this tournament :-P Summer is not over yet and SuperNova is on freaking fire. and on the other side are innovation and mma, who could really ruin life's day. I am not worried for top side of bracket, since ForGG is there Given how handily Taeja beat Inno and MMA yesterday, I wouldn't really be surprised to see ForGG beat them both and make the finals. That's what i meant
That being said I still think Taeja or Supernova could beat him in the final.
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On September 15 2013 22:19 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 22:12 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 22:09 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:
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No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting.
This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. Maybe people enjoy both. Well you are obviously getting one of them. On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:
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No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting.
This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise. Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience... Audience, that watches LoL? Apollo and Artosis will enable you-are-newbs-mode at finals, as they are TV'd Didn't stop the Koreans from offering up high level analysis of the gameplay. On September 15 2013 22:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:
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No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting.
This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. Maybe people enjoy both. Well you are obviously getting one of them. On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:
[quote]
No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting.
This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise. Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience... One of the things Day9 talked about in his dailies is trying to cater to everyone, the people who know only the basics of SC2 should find some sort of information to glean from the casts without boring the guys like us who know what's going on from the production tab. You can't get 100% and each caster finds his own way of catering to as many as they can. But what everyone can relate to is shitty jokes ^_^ Is that what he is trying nowadays? I remember that dailies were used to be him going into extreme nuances of the game in terms of build, timing, and decisions. Even in the dailies he would say things like "X player is messing up, he hasn't produced enough drones" in a way that implies to people who might not understand everything in the commentary that you should constantly produce drones. Not exactly, its a tradeoff. If you constantly try to produce drones, you won't have enough army for that huge lategame engagement. You might not even survive a push by opponent OR you may not even have enough resources to do so even. Zerg are played upon economical risks and awards. So no you shouldn't be CONSTANTLY producing drones but rather choose to so at appropriate pace.
haha yes please do teach us more strategy, we can all learn from you it seems
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On September 15 2013 22:18 Lysanias wrote:
Dat audience o0 haha.
Them UK fangirls!
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Life, SoS, MMA and Innovation in semis
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Germany3192 Posts
On September 15 2013 22:19 dreamseller wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:19 provrorsbarn wrote:
The audience looks like hostages this is incorrect. i saw some foot tapping. they're clearly having a fun, but SAFE time. ain't no fun like safe fun!
Sounds like the right crow for the safety dance ^^
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On September 15 2013 22:21 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:19 dreamseller wrote:On September 15 2013 22:19 provrorsbarn wrote:
The audience looks like hostages this is incorrect. i saw some foot tapping. they're clearly having a fun, but SAFE time. ain't no fun like safe fun! Sounds like the right crow for the safety dance ^^
please provide a link to this dance you speak of
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