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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 13:33:28
September 15 2013 13:30 GMT
#1601
On September 15 2013 22:27 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:25 ZenithM wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:25 Undead1993 wrote:
everytime i see ultras and bls in a mu i assume the zerg is going to get destroyed

Oh boy have the times changed.

aaaaaaand i was right

Well, sorry for not shedding tears at the thought of Zerg being destroyed because they made broodlords.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 15 2013 13:30 GMT
#1602
Oh here we go. This music
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Buff345
Profile Joined October 2010
United States323 Posts
September 15 2013 13:31 GMT
#1603
On September 15 2013 22:29 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:24 dreamseller wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:23 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:20 dreamseller wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:19 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:12 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:
[quote]

Maybe people enjoy both.


Well you are obviously getting one of them.

On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:
[quote]

this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise.


Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...

Audience, that watches LoL? Apollo and Artosis will enable you-are-newbs-mode at finals, as they are TV'd


Didn't stop the Koreans from offering up high level analysis of the gameplay.

On September 15 2013 22:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:
[quote]

Maybe people enjoy both.


Well you are obviously getting one of them.

On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:
[quote]

this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise.


Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...


One of the things Day9 talked about in his dailies is trying to cater to everyone, the people who know only the basics of SC2 should find some sort of information to glean from the casts without boring the guys like us who know what's going on from the production tab. You can't get 100% and each caster finds his own way of catering to as many as they can.

But what everyone can relate to is shitty jokes ^_^


Is that what he is trying nowadays? I remember that dailies were used to be him going into extreme nuances of the game in terms of build, timing, and decisions.


Even in the dailies he would say things like "X player is messing up, he hasn't produced enough drones" in a way that implies to people who might not understand everything in the commentary that you should constantly produce drones.


Not exactly, its a tradeoff. If you constantly try to produce drones, you won't have enough army for that huge lategame engagement. You might not even survive a push by opponent OR you may not even have enough resources to do so even. Zerg are played upon economical risks and awards. So no you shouldn't be CONSTANTLY producing drones but rather choose to so at appropriate pace.


haha yes please do teach us more strategy, we can all learn from you it seems


Thought that this was pretty rudimentary stuff but whateves...


this whole thread is going completely over your head matey, please stop with the inane drivel


Its not stupid or a drivel. Just casual observation of the game.

Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:23 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:19 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:12 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
[quote]

+1


This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


Maybe people enjoy both.


Well you are obviously getting one of them.

On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
[quote]

+1


This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise.


Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...

Audience, that watches LoL? Apollo and Artosis will enable you-are-newbs-mode at finals, as they are TV'd


Didn't stop the Koreans from offering up high level analysis of the gameplay.

On September 15 2013 22:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
[quote]

+1


This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


Maybe people enjoy both.


Well you are obviously getting one of them.

On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
[quote]

+1


This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise.


Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...


One of the things Day9 talked about in his dailies is trying to cater to everyone, the people who know only the basics of SC2 should find some sort of information to glean from the casts without boring the guys like us who know what's going on from the production tab. You can't get 100% and each caster finds his own way of catering to as many as they can.

But what everyone can relate to is shitty jokes ^_^


Is that what he is trying nowadays? I remember that dailies were used to be him going into extreme nuances of the game in terms of build, timing, and decisions.


Even in the dailies he would say things like "X player is messing up, he hasn't produced enough drones" in a way that implies to people who might not understand everything in the commentary that you should constantly produce drones.


Not exactly, its a tradeoff. If you constantly try to produce drones, you won't have enough army for that huge lategame engagement. You might not even survive a push by opponent OR you may not even have enough resources to do so even. Zerg are played upon economical risks and awards. So no you shouldn't be CONSTANTLY producing drones but rather choose to so at appropriate pace.

If that's truly what the dailies are saying, then lulz to that.


Or probes. My point isn't the validity of the statement, my point is trying to get everyone to walk away with something extra, whether it's information from an educational daily or entertainment from an SC2 cast.


I just feel that the casts could drastically ameliorate. In the TI3, pretty much all the casters stayed on focus the majority of the time instead insert tiny fluffs there and there. And do you not think that they aren't trying to cater to new audiences? No they absolutely are!


It's all about personal preference. if the majority prefers this type of cast then it's in their best interest to provide it. and it seems like the majority prefers it.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
September 15 2013 13:31 GMT
#1604
On September 15 2013 22:26 JacobShock wrote:
Guys I am calling it now, Going out on a limb here.. + Show Spoiler +
a terran will win this.

Cant. The God plays protoss.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
September 15 2013 13:32 GMT
#1605
Awesome song!
Not so awesome downtime
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
September 15 2013 13:32 GMT
#1606
CAAARRRRY OOOOOONNNNN
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
September 15 2013 13:32 GMT
#1607
On September 15 2013 22:30 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:27 Undead1993 wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:25 ZenithM wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:25 Undead1993 wrote:
everytime i see ultras and bls in a mu i assume the zerg is going to get destroyed

Oh boy have the times changed.

aaaaaaand i was right

Well, sorry for not shedding tears to the thought of Zerg being destroyed because they made broodlords.

no forgiveness for you
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
September 15 2013 13:33 GMT
#1608
On September 15 2013 22:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:26 JacobShock wrote:
Guys I am calling it now, Going out on a limb here.. + Show Spoiler +
a terran will win this.

Cant. The God plays protoss.

Hmm so that's why God lets children starve around the world? Can't be everywhere at once with his 80 APM :/
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 15 2013 13:33 GMT
#1609
Did he just try to remix Gangnam style into Carry on My Wayward Son? Not approved DH DJ. Get your shit together man.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 15 2013 13:33 GMT
#1610
On September 15 2013 22:29 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:24 dreamseller wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:23 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:20 dreamseller wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:19 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:12 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:
[quote]

Maybe people enjoy both.


Well you are obviously getting one of them.

On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:
[quote]

this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise.


Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...

Audience, that watches LoL? Apollo and Artosis will enable you-are-newbs-mode at finals, as they are TV'd


Didn't stop the Koreans from offering up high level analysis of the gameplay.

On September 15 2013 22:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:
[quote]

Maybe people enjoy both.


Well you are obviously getting one of them.

On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:
[quote]

this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise.


Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...


One of the things Day9 talked about in his dailies is trying to cater to everyone, the people who know only the basics of SC2 should find some sort of information to glean from the casts without boring the guys like us who know what's going on from the production tab. You can't get 100% and each caster finds his own way of catering to as many as they can.

But what everyone can relate to is shitty jokes ^_^


Is that what he is trying nowadays? I remember that dailies were used to be him going into extreme nuances of the game in terms of build, timing, and decisions.


Even in the dailies he would say things like "X player is messing up, he hasn't produced enough drones" in a way that implies to people who might not understand everything in the commentary that you should constantly produce drones.


Not exactly, its a tradeoff. If you constantly try to produce drones, you won't have enough army for that huge lategame engagement. You might not even survive a push by opponent OR you may not even have enough resources to do so even. Zerg are played upon economical risks and awards. So no you shouldn't be CONSTANTLY producing drones but rather choose to so at appropriate pace.


haha yes please do teach us more strategy, we can all learn from you it seems


Thought that this was pretty rudimentary stuff but whateves...


this whole thread is going completely over your head matey, please stop with the inane drivel


Its not stupid or a drivel. Just casual observation of the game.

Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:23 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:19 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:12 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
[quote]

+1


This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


Maybe people enjoy both.


Well you are obviously getting one of them.

On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
[quote]

+1


This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise.


Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...

Audience, that watches LoL? Apollo and Artosis will enable you-are-newbs-mode at finals, as they are TV'd


Didn't stop the Koreans from offering up high level analysis of the gameplay.

On September 15 2013 22:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
[quote]

+1


This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


Maybe people enjoy both.


Well you are obviously getting one of them.

On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
[quote]

+1


This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise.


Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...


One of the things Day9 talked about in his dailies is trying to cater to everyone, the people who know only the basics of SC2 should find some sort of information to glean from the casts without boring the guys like us who know what's going on from the production tab. You can't get 100% and each caster finds his own way of catering to as many as they can.

But what everyone can relate to is shitty jokes ^_^


Is that what he is trying nowadays? I remember that dailies were used to be him going into extreme nuances of the game in terms of build, timing, and decisions.


Even in the dailies he would say things like "X player is messing up, he hasn't produced enough drones" in a way that implies to people who might not understand everything in the commentary that you should constantly produce drones.


Not exactly, its a tradeoff. If you constantly try to produce drones, you won't have enough army for that huge lategame engagement. You might not even survive a push by opponent OR you may not even have enough resources to do so even. Zerg are played upon economical risks and awards. So no you shouldn't be CONSTANTLY producing drones but rather choose to so at appropriate pace.

If that's truly what the dailies are saying, then lulz to that.


Or probes. My point isn't the validity of the statement, my point is trying to get everyone to walk away with something extra, whether it's information from an educational daily or entertainment from an SC2 cast.


I just feel that the casts could drastically ameliorate. In the TI3, pretty much all the casters stayed on focus the majority of the time instead insert tiny fluffs there and there. And do you not think that they aren't trying to cater to new audiences? No they absolutely are!

And here i am thinking, that complete analysis mode is irrelevant since absolute majority of ppl watching have a clue of what's up. In korean cast there is a person, who's job is to entertain the viewers afaik, right? Sadly we do not have 3rd caster in casting desk for that, so casters are jacks of all.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
September 15 2013 13:33 GMT
#1611
what song is this
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
September 15 2013 13:34 GMT
#1612
On September 15 2013 22:33 Foxxan wrote:
what song is this


Kansas - Carry on my wayward son
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 15 2013 13:34 GMT
#1613
On September 15 2013 22:33 Foxxan wrote:
what song is this

Carry on My Wayward Son by Kansas
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 13:36:30
September 15 2013 13:35 GMT
#1614
On September 15 2013 22:33 Foxxan wrote:
what song is this

Carry on my wayward son



Edit: Sniped by sr3p and Darkhoarse whilst I was finding the youtube link
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
September 15 2013 13:35 GMT
#1615
Wasn't it supposed to resume 5 minutes ago?
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 15 2013 13:36 GMT
#1616
On September 15 2013 22:33 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:29 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:24 dreamseller wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:23 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:20 dreamseller wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:19 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:12 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:
[quote]

Well you are obviously getting one of them.

[quote]

Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...

Audience, that watches LoL? Apollo and Artosis will enable you-are-newbs-mode at finals, as they are TV'd


Didn't stop the Koreans from offering up high level analysis of the gameplay.

On September 15 2013 22:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:
[quote]

Well you are obviously getting one of them.

[quote]

Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...


One of the things Day9 talked about in his dailies is trying to cater to everyone, the people who know only the basics of SC2 should find some sort of information to glean from the casts without boring the guys like us who know what's going on from the production tab. You can't get 100% and each caster finds his own way of catering to as many as they can.

But what everyone can relate to is shitty jokes ^_^


Is that what he is trying nowadays? I remember that dailies were used to be him going into extreme nuances of the game in terms of build, timing, and decisions.


Even in the dailies he would say things like "X player is messing up, he hasn't produced enough drones" in a way that implies to people who might not understand everything in the commentary that you should constantly produce drones.


Not exactly, its a tradeoff. If you constantly try to produce drones, you won't have enough army for that huge lategame engagement. You might not even survive a push by opponent OR you may not even have enough resources to do so even. Zerg are played upon economical risks and awards. So no you shouldn't be CONSTANTLY producing drones but rather choose to so at appropriate pace.


haha yes please do teach us more strategy, we can all learn from you it seems


Thought that this was pretty rudimentary stuff but whateves...


this whole thread is going completely over your head matey, please stop with the inane drivel


Its not stupid or a drivel. Just casual observation of the game.

On September 15 2013 22:23 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:19 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:12 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
[quote]

This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


Maybe people enjoy both.


Well you are obviously getting one of them.

On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
[quote]

This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise.


Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...

Audience, that watches LoL? Apollo and Artosis will enable you-are-newbs-mode at finals, as they are TV'd


Didn't stop the Koreans from offering up high level analysis of the gameplay.

On September 15 2013 22:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
[quote]

This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


Maybe people enjoy both.


Well you are obviously getting one of them.

On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
[quote]

This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise.


Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...


One of the things Day9 talked about in his dailies is trying to cater to everyone, the people who know only the basics of SC2 should find some sort of information to glean from the casts without boring the guys like us who know what's going on from the production tab. You can't get 100% and each caster finds his own way of catering to as many as they can.

But what everyone can relate to is shitty jokes ^_^


Is that what he is trying nowadays? I remember that dailies were used to be him going into extreme nuances of the game in terms of build, timing, and decisions.


Even in the dailies he would say things like "X player is messing up, he hasn't produced enough drones" in a way that implies to people who might not understand everything in the commentary that you should constantly produce drones.


Not exactly, its a tradeoff. If you constantly try to produce drones, you won't have enough army for that huge lategame engagement. You might not even survive a push by opponent OR you may not even have enough resources to do so even. Zerg are played upon economical risks and awards. So no you shouldn't be CONSTANTLY producing drones but rather choose to so at appropriate pace.

If that's truly what the dailies are saying, then lulz to that.


Or probes. My point isn't the validity of the statement, my point is trying to get everyone to walk away with something extra, whether it's information from an educational daily or entertainment from an SC2 cast.


I just feel that the casts could drastically ameliorate. In the TI3, pretty much all the casters stayed on focus the majority of the time instead insert tiny fluffs there and there. And do you not think that they aren't trying to cater to new audiences? No they absolutely are!

And here i am thinking, that complete analysis mode is irrelevant since absolute majority of ppl watching have a clue of what's up. In korean cast there is a person, who's job is to entertain the viewers afaik, right? Sadly we do not have 3rd caster in casting desk for that, so casters are jacks of all.


Yes we do, we got two actually. Since you said that complete analysis here is irrelevant thus not existing, what the contemporary caster are doing is basically providing the opposite of that (which is to serve to "entertain").
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On September 15 2013 22:35 Ghanburighan wrote:
Wasn't it supposed to resume 5 minutes ago?

It says right there on the screen: 16:36 EEST. Final 8 Show Starts at 17:00.
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On September 15 2013 22:35 Ghanburighan wrote:
Wasn't it supposed to resume 5 minutes ago?

I thought 5pm EEST, so in approx 23min?
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