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Just got here. Break until 16?
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So it's like hour break now?
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On September 15 2013 22:10 Heartland wrote:
Just got here. Break until 16?
16:30
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On September 15 2013 22:07 DinoToss wrote:
Well ZvZ is one of the exceptions to almost all MU, where defenders can have quite big advantage (minus muta).
You're saying muta doesn't have defenders advantage? The faster reinforcements is still there plus you have queens and spores.
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On September 15 2013 22:10 Boucot wrote:16:30
Thanks!
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I say winner of Taeja-sOs takes it all.
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United States23455 Posts
Pretty bummed about HerO  . I guess I'm happy about the other advancements though.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 15 2013 22:11 ZenithM wrote:
I say winner of Taeja-sOs takes it all.
ForGG may as well play TvT from now on. Bear that in mind.
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On September 15 2013 22:10 Boucot wrote:16:30
Is that in 18 minutes or 78?
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On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:44 Xiphos wrote:
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I want professional cast from my viewership and I expect it from Sean and Dan. They aren't even trying. Are you kidding? The nonsense is what makes things fun But not professional. Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best. The korean casts are SCRIPTED. Scripted=BORING No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting. This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. Maybe people enjoy both. Well you are obviously getting one of them. Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:44 Xiphos wrote:
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I want professional cast from my viewership and I expect it from Sean and Dan. They aren't even trying. Are you kidding? The nonsense is what makes things fun But not professional. Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best. The korean casts are SCRIPTED. Scripted=BORING No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting. This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise. Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...
they often do and i'm sure people can reply to this and point out examples of this in every game that has been cast. it's not the focus of any caster (except maybe tasteless, who is the most noob friendly in GSL, you might like him, although he does joke around a TON, so maybe he would raise your ire too).
the thing is, you're whinging for more explanations on an elite gaming website in a niche live report thread which has the most die hard fans of the game posting in it who generally participate in the highest level of meta-discussion of the finals of the most stacked international open tournament we've perhaps ever seen. can you see where i'm going with this?
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On September 15 2013 22:09 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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Are you kidding? The nonsense is what makes things fun But not professional. Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best. The korean casts are SCRIPTED. Scripted=BORING No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting. This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. Maybe people enjoy both. Well you are obviously getting one of them. On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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Are you kidding? The nonsense is what makes things fun But not professional. Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best. The korean casts are SCRIPTED. Scripted=BORING No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting. This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise. Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience... Audience, that watches LoL? Apollo and Artosis will enable you-are-newbs-mode at finals, as they are TV'd
Didn't stop the Koreans from offering up high level analysis of the gameplay.
On September 15 2013 22:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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Are you kidding? The nonsense is what makes things fun But not professional. Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best. The korean casts are SCRIPTED. Scripted=BORING No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting. This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. Maybe people enjoy both. Well you are obviously getting one of them. On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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Are you kidding? The nonsense is what makes things fun But not professional. Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best. The korean casts are SCRIPTED. Scripted=BORING No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting. This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise. Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience... One of the things Day9 talked about in his dailies is trying to cater to everyone, the people who know only the basics of SC2 should find some sort of information to glean from the casts without boring the guys like us who know what's going on from the production tab. You can't get 100% and each caster finds his own way of catering to as many as they can. But what everyone can relate to is shitty jokes ^_^
Is that what he is trying nowadays? I remember that dailies were used to be him going into extreme nuances of the game in terms of build, timing, and decisions.
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Surprised ForGG beat Hyun with his TvZ. Wish Avenge had pulled through and beaten MMA, but I also like to see MMA coming back.
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The casters are calling out games way to fast. They often don't even wait for an attack to hit and already say "I don't see any way from him holding this. XX won this."
Game 3 between Jaedong and sOs was already called out by the caster as unwinnable for sOs after the baneling bust was about to hit unscouted. Casters talked like there is no way sOs can hold it with the stargate.
Game 1 between Nerchio and Life was so often called as win for Life. Pretty much every engage until the last one Nerchio won i just heard how good life does it in what excellent shape he is and that he will win.
Elfi vs Stardust where Elfi pulls the probes. Casters talked before the attack only about how it will fail and StarDust will win the game.
And there are more examples. I mean they just miss out on so much hype. It would be way better to stop calling out games before engagements and just saying it favours someone, but this constantly "there is no way he is gonna hold" "with this he will win the game" is annoying and takes away the hype :/
Just because one got the bigger or better army it is no autowin. It still depends on the last fight.
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No more Zerg for Life to meet - he's gonna win this tournament :-P
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Oh HuK... How I've missed results from you.
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On September 15 2013 22:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:10 Boucot wrote:On September 15 2013 22:10 Heartland wrote:
Just got here. Break until 16? 16:30 Is that in 18 minutes or 78?
Depends on where you're from. But 78 minutes from where the dude that posted it is from.
18 minutes if it's Dreamhack time.
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On September 15 2013 22:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:10 Boucot wrote:On September 15 2013 22:10 Heartland wrote:
Just got here. Break until 16? 16:30 Is that in 18 minutes or 78?
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On September 15 2013 22:13 Swisslink wrote:
No more Zerg for Life to meet - he's gonna win this tournament :-P
Summer is not over yet and SuperNova is on freaking fire.
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On September 15 2013 22:12 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:09 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:
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But not professional.
Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best. The korean casts are SCRIPTED. Scripted=BORING No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting. This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. Maybe people enjoy both. Well you are obviously getting one of them. On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:
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But not professional.
Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best. The korean casts are SCRIPTED. Scripted=BORING No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting. This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise. Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience... Audience, that watches LoL? Apollo and Artosis will enable you-are-newbs-mode at finals, as they are TV'd Didn't stop the Koreans from offering up high level analysis of the gameplay. Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 22:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:
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But not professional.
Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best. The korean casts are SCRIPTED. Scripted=BORING No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting. This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. Maybe people enjoy both. Well you are obviously getting one of them. On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:
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But not professional.
Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best. The korean casts are SCRIPTED. Scripted=BORING No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting. This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting. I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness +1 This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening. this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise. Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience... One of the things Day9 talked about in his dailies is trying to cater to everyone, the people who know only the basics of SC2 should find some sort of information to glean from the casts without boring the guys like us who know what's going on from the production tab. You can't get 100% and each caster finds his own way of catering to as many as they can. But what everyone can relate to is shitty jokes ^_^ Is that what he is trying nowadays? I remember that dailies were used to be him going into extreme nuances of the game in terms of build, timing, and decisions.
Even in the dailies he would say things like "X player is messing up, he hasn't produced enough drones" in a way that implies to people who might not understand everything in the commentary that you should constantly produce drones.
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