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DinoToss
Profile Joined August 2013
Poland507 Posts
September 15 2013 13:07 GMT
#1501
Well ZvZ is one of the exceptions to almost all MU, where defenders can have quite big advantage (minus muta).
My wrist really started to flare up. My colossi number started to pile up and with the last of my concentration I prepared for a win.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 15 2013 13:07 GMT
#1502
On September 15 2013 22:05 Gamegene wrote:
lol that redbull hat

that's actually good advertisement, cause you can read it. small letters on those shirts are easily overlooked.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 15 2013 13:07 GMT
#1503
On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:44 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:42 NovemberstOrm wrote:
[quote]
Calm down, take a glass a water, and go exercise because you are too angry. Also have some fun in life.


I want professional cast from my viewership and I expect it from Sean and Dan. They aren't even trying.


Are you kidding? The nonsense is what makes things fun


But not professional.

Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best.

The korean casts are SCRIPTED.
Scripted=BORING


No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting.
This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting.


I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness


+1


This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


Maybe people enjoy both.


Well you are obviously getting one of them.

On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:44 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:42 NovemberstOrm wrote:
[quote]
Calm down, take a glass a water, and go exercise because you are too angry. Also have some fun in life.


I want professional cast from my viewership and I expect it from Sean and Dan. They aren't even trying.


Are you kidding? The nonsense is what makes things fun


But not professional.

Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best.

The korean casts are SCRIPTED.
Scripted=BORING


No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting.
This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting.


I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness


+1


This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise.


Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 15 2013 13:08 GMT
#1504
Why is Korean such a singsongy language
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ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
September 15 2013 13:08 GMT
#1505
On September 15 2013 22:06 Darkhoarse wrote:
Elfi playing spoiler here. He's not even in WCS EU at the moment but he's trying to take all the points


I'm liking it, helping ma NaNiwa a little
ThorZaIN | NaNiwa | SaSe | PartinG | sOs | Jaedong | sOs restored passion!
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
September 15 2013 13:08 GMT
#1506
On September 15 2013 22:06 Nomzter wrote:
Life taeja and sos all on the same side of the bracket

*+ Supernova.

Honestly it's a far stronger side than the other. By a mile imo.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
September 15 2013 13:08 GMT
#1507
Fuck I just woke up, how did Life vs. Nerchio go
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ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
September 15 2013 13:08 GMT
#1508
On September 15 2013 22:08 wozzot wrote:
Fuck I just woke up, how did Life vs. Nerchio go


2-1 Life
ThorZaIN | NaNiwa | SaSe | PartinG | sOs | Jaedong | sOs restored passion!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 15 2013 13:08 GMT
#1509
On September 15 2013 22:07 DinoToss wrote:
Well ZvZ is one of the exceptions to almost all MU, where defenders can have quite big advantage (minus muta).

TvT
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
September 15 2013 13:08 GMT
#1510
life not making any eye contact with smix haha
yo
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
September 15 2013 13:08 GMT
#1511
On September 15 2013 22:08 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:06 Nomzter wrote:
Life taeja and sos all on the same side of the bracket

*+ Supernova.

Honestly it's a far stronger side than the other. By a mile imo.

Yeah probably. I mean, there is elfi on the other side.
:D
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
September 15 2013 13:09 GMT
#1512
Excellent questions Smix!
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
September 15 2013 13:09 GMT
#1513
no english...again......
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 15 2013 13:09 GMT
#1514
On September 15 2013 22:07 DinoToss wrote:
Well ZvZ is one of the exceptions to almost all MU, where defenders can have quite big advantage (minus muta).


TvT as well.
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
September 15 2013 13:09 GMT
#1515
Ro16 - 5 Z, 5 T, 6 P.
Quarterfinals - 1 Z, 5 T, 2 P

At this rate, the semifinals becomes TvTreamHack.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 15 2013 13:09 GMT
#1516
On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:44 Xiphos wrote:
[quote]

I want professional cast from my viewership and I expect it from Sean and Dan. They aren't even trying.


Are you kidding? The nonsense is what makes things fun


But not professional.

Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best.

The korean casts are SCRIPTED.
Scripted=BORING


No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting.
This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting.


I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness


+1


This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


Maybe people enjoy both.


Well you are obviously getting one of them.

Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:44 Xiphos wrote:
[quote]

I want professional cast from my viewership and I expect it from Sean and Dan. They aren't even trying.


Are you kidding? The nonsense is what makes things fun


But not professional.

Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best.

The korean casts are SCRIPTED.
Scripted=BORING


No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting.
This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting.


I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness


+1


This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise.


Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...

Audience, that watches LoL? Apollo and Artosis will enable you-are-newbs-mode at finals, as they are TV'd
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
September 15 2013 13:09 GMT
#1517
Life, looking like a nascar driver and pulling it off.
Cogito, ergo toss.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
September 15 2013 13:09 GMT
#1518
On September 15 2013 22:09 Foxxan wrote:
no english...again......

Get out the pitchforks.

lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 15 2013 13:10 GMT
#1519
On September 15 2013 22:09 coverpunch wrote:
Ro16 - 5 Z, 5 T, 6 P.
Quarterfinals - 1 Z, 5 T, 2 P

At this rate, the semifinals becomes TvTreamHack.

More chances for ForGG to win.
Though it is likely to be TaeJa reverse sweeping ForGG again LOL
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 15 2013 13:10 GMT
#1520
On September 15 2013 22:07 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:03 JacobShock wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:44 Xiphos wrote:
[quote]

I want professional cast from my viewership and I expect it from Sean and Dan. They aren't even trying.


Are you kidding? The nonsense is what makes things fun


But not professional.

Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best.

The korean casts are SCRIPTED.
Scripted=BORING


No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting.
This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting.


I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness


+1


This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


Maybe people enjoy both.


Well you are obviously getting one of them.

Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 22:05 dreamseller wrote:
On September 15 2013 22:01 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:58 norterrible wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:55 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:49 Xiphos wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 15 2013 21:44 Xiphos wrote:
[quote]

I want professional cast from my viewership and I expect it from Sean and Dan. They aren't even trying.


Are you kidding? The nonsense is what makes things fun


But not professional.

Have you seen how the Koreans casts? Non stop storytelling about player's background, their past glory, dissecting the tiniest details of plays. Many players themselves even tune in to casters because they say that castor's game knowledge even exceed their's. This is amateur work at best.

The korean casts are SCRIPTED.
Scripted=BORING


No scripted = dedicated to make the game interesting.
This is just free styling, at least try to make it interesting.


I don't think anyone agrees with you and even if we did you are bringing a lot of unnecessary hate and anger into a fun thread. This is not a life or death situation. We are trying to enjoy some games on a weekend. Watch the news if you want scripted seriousness


+1


This make me think that most of people here are just watching to hear Sean and Dan's cheesy jokes rather than the actual game itself. Which is pretty disheartening.


this is an elite community of gamers. most of us know exactly what is going on at every point in the game simply by glancing at the production tab. there are very few surprises and the community really doesn't appreciate false hype as a result. most of us agree that the beauty of SC2 (and brood war) is the execution of extremely refined strategies (that we mostly know about) with what seems to be inhuman physical mechanics which comes from insane amounts of practice and sense of timings. the rest is just filler. you are just advocating more noise.


Well gee, I just hope that they would just try to explain these things to the audience...


One of the things Day9 talked about in his dailies is trying to cater to everyone, the people who know only the basics of SC2 should find some sort of information to glean from the casts without boring the guys like us who know what's going on from the production tab. You can't get 100% and each caster finds his own way of catering to as many as they can.

But what everyone can relate to is shitty jokes ^_^
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