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On August 25 2013 01:01 mythandier wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 00:59 Misca wrote:Rain his play is so boring, the only thing that makes it fun to watch him are his awesome storms. That's about it sadly  "awesome storms"...never gets old hearing that phrase...right up there with "amazing fungals" Spoken like somebody who has never played a real Templar vs Ghost fight :D.
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On August 25 2013 01:03 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:02 IntoTheheart wrote: Hm... if TaeJa wins this, what'll happen to Scarlett?
Her ZvT is amazing, would we see her demolish him? no. taeja wins this, if he goes through here I was talking about the next round, since I'm banking that Scarlett's ZvT will be enough to make quick work out of her opponent.
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On August 25 2013 01:02 IntoTheheart wrote: Hm... if TaeJa wins this, what'll happen to Scarlett?
Her ZvT is amazing, would we see her demolish him? You're assuming she gets passed Bomber.
She won't.
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On August 25 2013 01:01 shadymmj wrote: i swear, sc2 is so dumb. champions come and go so fast, it's actually saying something that bogus held the top spot for the longest period of time.
anyway, all hopes on jaedong now. make me proud!
It's not dumb. It's not figured enough by somebody in a consistent manner yet.
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On August 25 2013 01:01 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 00:59 GhostOwl wrote: Terran chose bad engagement and about to lose? Don't worry, just load up the medivac and turbo outta that fight
Protoss HT gets emp + sniped? Dead. I really dont see why ghosts snipe range is greater than HT's TaeJa was ahead from the start, very ahead. The 3rd base of Rain was even more delayed than its usually so what do you expect. It would need a huge blunder to blow that lead. Rain usually puts himself behind in macro games to have safety early and midgame because he knows Protoss is strong in lategame and he is especially with his templars. But that also does mean that any advantage early/midgame and delay to his 3rd thats late to begin with hurts him. Also if you play greedy you can have a lot more than him. On the other hand, what you say just shows you don't know stuff about TvP Indeed: income graph, army value graph. Blue = TaeJa, red = Rain.
Rain's account is a 40-4 Gold by the way. He left two games, lost a Cannon rush and apparently failed a proxy 10/10 vs Zerg.
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On August 25 2013 01:03 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 00:59 GhostOwl wrote: Terran chose bad engagement and about to lose? Don't worry, just load up the medivac and turbo outta that fight
Protoss HT gets emp + sniped? Dead. I really dont see why ghosts snipe range is greater than HT's Dem toss tears  Seriously, TvP is still Bioball + Ghosts + Vikings vs Colossi + HT + some gate units since forever, and it's not imbalanced in any way.
I agree. But it is really boring to watch. The matchup really hasn't changed from WOL, except that early aggression is riskier for both sides.
On August 25 2013 01:05 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:01 NarutO wrote:On August 25 2013 00:59 GhostOwl wrote: Terran chose bad engagement and about to lose? Don't worry, just load up the medivac and turbo outta that fight
Protoss HT gets emp + sniped? Dead. I really dont see why ghosts snipe range is greater than HT's TaeJa was ahead from the start, very ahead. The 3rd base of Rain was even more delayed than its usually so what do you expect. It would need a huge blunder to blow that lead. Rain usually puts himself behind in macro games to have safety early and midgame because he knows Protoss is strong in lategame and he is especially with his templars. But that also does mean that any advantage early/midgame and delay to his 3rd thats late to begin with hurts him. Also if you play greedy you can have a lot more than him. On the other hand, what you say just shows you don't know stuff about TvP Indeed: income graph, army value graph. Blue = TaeJa, red = Rain. Rain's account is a 40-4 Gold by the way. He left two games, lost a Cannon rush and apparently failed a proxy 10/10 vs Zerg.
You can't look at income or army graphs to show who is ahead in a non-mirror.
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On August 25 2013 01:03 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:02 samurai80 wrote:On August 25 2013 01:01 NarutO wrote:On August 25 2013 00:59 GhostOwl wrote: Terran chose bad engagement and about to lose? Don't worry, just load up the medivac and turbo outta that fight
Protoss HT gets emp + sniped? Dead. I really dont see why ghosts snipe range is greater than HT's TaeJa was ahead from the start, very ahead. The 3rd base of Rain was even more delayed than its usually so what do you expect. It would need a huge blunder to blow that lead. Rain usually puts himself behind in macro games to have safety early and midgame because he knows Protoss is strong in lategame and he is especially with his templars. But that also does mean that any advantage early/midgame and delay to his 3rd thats late to begin with hurts him. Also if you play greedy you can have a lot more than him. On the other hand, what you say just shows you don't know stuff about TvP He was quite ahead, but Rain was not that far and was closing it up. Now it doesn't change anything to his point anyway. Can play that game as well. Having huge lead over Protoss, still forced to retreat from the engagement while Protoss would have stomped. QQ much? As said, he is wrong. His point is that terran CAN do that. If protoss is in the same spot it's pretty hard to retreat like this.
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On August 25 2013 01:04 LimitSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:02 IntoTheheart wrote: Hm... if TaeJa wins this, what'll happen to Scarlett?
Her ZvT is amazing, would we see her demolish him? You're assuming she gets passed Bomber. She won't. Scarlett wins by default.
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On August 25 2013 01:04 LimitSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:02 IntoTheheart wrote: Hm... if TaeJa wins this, what'll happen to Scarlett?
Her ZvT is amazing, would we see her demolish him? You're assuming she gets passed Bomber. She won't. We'll see. His TvZ's not as good has hers is. And it's Bomber's law.
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i meant hots, of course, it's quite redundant talking about wol now when we know the game was left broken for over a year :/
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On August 25 2013 01:03 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:02 samurai80 wrote:On August 25 2013 01:01 NarutO wrote:On August 25 2013 00:59 GhostOwl wrote: Terran chose bad engagement and about to lose? Don't worry, just load up the medivac and turbo outta that fight
Protoss HT gets emp + sniped? Dead. I really dont see why ghosts snipe range is greater than HT's TaeJa was ahead from the start, very ahead. The 3rd base of Rain was even more delayed than its usually so what do you expect. It would need a huge blunder to blow that lead. Rain usually puts himself behind in macro games to have safety early and midgame because he knows Protoss is strong in lategame and he is especially with his templars. But that also does mean that any advantage early/midgame and delay to his 3rd thats late to begin with hurts him. Also if you play greedy you can have a lot more than him. On the other hand, what you say just shows you don't know stuff about TvP He was quite ahead, but Rain was not that far and was closing it up. Now it doesn't change anything to his point anyway. Can play that game as well. Having huge lead over Protoss, still forced to retreat from the engagement while Protoss would have stomped. QQ much? As said, he is wrong. it's also no secret that neither zealots nor colossi can't shoot up. build next to no AA and wonder why the enemy can elevator away? protoss logic whine.
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On August 25 2013 01:04 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:03 Undead1993 wrote:On August 25 2013 01:02 IntoTheheart wrote: Hm... if TaeJa wins this, what'll happen to Scarlett?
Her ZvT is amazing, would we see her demolish him? no. taeja wins this, if he goes through here I was talking about the next round, since I'm banking that Scarlett's ZvT will be enough to make quick work out of her opponent. with wins "THIS" i mean he wins the tournament if he can beat rain, therefore he also wins against scarlett
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On August 25 2013 01:05 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:03 NarutO wrote:On August 25 2013 01:02 samurai80 wrote:On August 25 2013 01:01 NarutO wrote:On August 25 2013 00:59 GhostOwl wrote: Terran chose bad engagement and about to lose? Don't worry, just load up the medivac and turbo outta that fight
Protoss HT gets emp + sniped? Dead. I really dont see why ghosts snipe range is greater than HT's TaeJa was ahead from the start, very ahead. The 3rd base of Rain was even more delayed than its usually so what do you expect. It would need a huge blunder to blow that lead. Rain usually puts himself behind in macro games to have safety early and midgame because he knows Protoss is strong in lategame and he is especially with his templars. But that also does mean that any advantage early/midgame and delay to his 3rd thats late to begin with hurts him. Also if you play greedy you can have a lot more than him. On the other hand, what you say just shows you don't know stuff about TvP He was quite ahead, but Rain was not that far and was closing it up. Now it doesn't change anything to his point anyway. Can play that game as well. Having huge lead over Protoss, still forced to retreat from the engagement while Protoss would have stomped. QQ much? As said, he is wrong. His point is that terran CAN do that. If protoss is in the same spot it's pretty hard to retreat like this.
Recall-_-? Next to no anti-air, no blink. As said, he was way behind that allows Terran to "retreat easily"
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On August 25 2013 01:05 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:01 NarutO wrote:On August 25 2013 00:59 GhostOwl wrote: Terran chose bad engagement and about to lose? Don't worry, just load up the medivac and turbo outta that fight
Protoss HT gets emp + sniped? Dead. I really dont see why ghosts snipe range is greater than HT's TaeJa was ahead from the start, very ahead. The 3rd base of Rain was even more delayed than its usually so what do you expect. It would need a huge blunder to blow that lead. Rain usually puts himself behind in macro games to have safety early and midgame because he knows Protoss is strong in lategame and he is especially with his templars. But that also does mean that any advantage early/midgame and delay to his 3rd thats late to begin with hurts him. Also if you play greedy you can have a lot more than him. On the other hand, what you say just shows you don't know stuff about TvP Indeed: income graph, army value graph. Blue = TaeJa, red = Rain. Rain's account is a 40-4 Gold by the way. He left two games, lost a Cannon rush and apparently failed a proxy 10/10 vs Zerg. I wonder why their accounts get placed in gold. To my knowledge winning all placements places you in platinum, not gold. Maybe they leave games in placements or smth?
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On August 25 2013 01:03 Ragnarork wrote:
Seriously, TvP is still Bioball + Ghosts + Vikings vs Colossi + HT + some gate units since forever
Except for that mass tempest thing earlier. But I guess he was so far ahead he could have gone mass phoenix and lifted individual marines.
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On August 25 2013 01:04 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:01 shadymmj wrote: i swear, sc2 is so dumb. champions come and go so fast, it's actually saying something that bogus held the top spot for the longest period of time.
anyway, all hopes on jaedong now. make me proud! Innovation had the top spot for the longest period of time? more like one of the shortest times of a player everyone thought was gonna win everything. when did you start following sc2? 6 months ago? the names Mvp, Nestea, MC ring a bell? Innovations period of dominance involved looking invincible for about a month, during which he choked incredibly vs soulkey and almost again vs Mvp. He has nothing on the names you listed above or rain or drg.
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On August 25 2013 01:05 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:04 LimitSEA wrote:On August 25 2013 01:02 IntoTheheart wrote: Hm... if TaeJa wins this, what'll happen to Scarlett?
Her ZvT is amazing, would we see her demolish him? You're assuming she gets passed Bomber. She won't. We'll see. His TvZ's not as good has hers is. And it's Bomber's law.  He already disappointed in WCS KR. Surely he won't disappoint here. Surely this is his tournament.
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On August 25 2013 01:05 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:03 NarutO wrote:On August 25 2013 01:02 samurai80 wrote:On August 25 2013 01:01 NarutO wrote:On August 25 2013 00:59 GhostOwl wrote: Terran chose bad engagement and about to lose? Don't worry, just load up the medivac and turbo outta that fight
Protoss HT gets emp + sniped? Dead. I really dont see why ghosts snipe range is greater than HT's TaeJa was ahead from the start, very ahead. The 3rd base of Rain was even more delayed than its usually so what do you expect. It would need a huge blunder to blow that lead. Rain usually puts himself behind in macro games to have safety early and midgame because he knows Protoss is strong in lategame and he is especially with his templars. But that also does mean that any advantage early/midgame and delay to his 3rd thats late to begin with hurts him. Also if you play greedy you can have a lot more than him. On the other hand, what you say just shows you don't know stuff about TvP He was quite ahead, but Rain was not that far and was closing it up. Now it doesn't change anything to his point anyway. Can play that game as well. Having huge lead over Protoss, still forced to retreat from the engagement while Protoss would have stomped. QQ much? As said, he is wrong. His point is that terran CAN do that. If protoss is in the same spot it's pretty hard to retreat like this. are we at the point of "asymmetric race design"-whine now?
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