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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10135 Posts
August 24 2013 16:07 GMT
#4261
On August 25 2013 01:05 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:04 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
Hm... if TaeJa wins this, what'll happen to Scarlett?

Her ZvT is amazing, would we see her demolish him?

You're assuming she gets passed Bomber.

She won't.

We'll see. His TvZ's not as good has hers is. And it's Bomber's law.

Scarlett is a foreigner who is getting a lot of praise and her ZvT is actually pretty good

Remember rule number 2 of the Bomber's Law.
2stra
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands928 Posts
August 24 2013 16:07 GMT
#4262
On August 25 2013 01:05 samurai80 wrote:
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On August 25 2013 01:03 NarutO wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:02 samurai80 wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:01 NarutO wrote:
On August 25 2013 00:59 GhostOwl wrote:
Terran chose bad engagement and about to lose? Don't worry, just load up the medivac and turbo outta that fight

Protoss HT gets emp + sniped? Dead. I really dont see why ghosts snipe range is greater than HT's


TaeJa was ahead from the start, very ahead. The 3rd base of Rain was even more delayed than its usually so what do you expect. It would need a huge blunder to blow that lead. Rain usually puts himself behind in macro games to have safety early and midgame because he knows Protoss is strong in lategame and he is especially with his templars. But that also does mean that any advantage early/midgame and delay to his 3rd thats late to begin with hurts him.

Also if you play greedy you can have a lot more than him. On the other hand, what you say just shows you don't know stuff about TvP

He was quite ahead, but Rain was not that far and was closing it up. Now it doesn't change anything to his point anyway.


Can play that game as well. Having huge lead over Protoss, still forced to retreat from the engagement while Protoss would have stomped. QQ much? As said, he is wrong.

His point is that terran CAN do that. If protoss is in the same spot it's pretty hard to retreat like this.


But Terran is only getting in these positions because of the medivacs, without them he wouldn't even go there. So he is using his units for their intended purpose
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
August 24 2013 16:08 GMT
#4263
TaeJa is the bane of all Observers, killing all of them he sees.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Code
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada634 Posts
August 24 2013 16:08 GMT
#4264
Rain taking his 3rd almost 5 min earlier this game
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1415 Posts
August 24 2013 16:08 GMT
#4265
On August 25 2013 01:06 bo1b wrote:
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On August 25 2013 01:04 Schelim wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:01 shadymmj wrote:
i swear, sc2 is so dumb. champions come and go so fast, it's actually saying something that bogus held the top spot for the longest period of time.

anyway, all hopes on jaedong now. make me proud!

Innovation had the top spot for the longest period of time? more like one of the shortest times of a player everyone thought was gonna win everything. when did you start following sc2? 6 months ago?

the names Mvp, Nestea, MC ring a bell?

Innovations period of dominance involved looking invincible for about a month, during which he choked incredibly vs soulkey and almost again vs Mvp. He has nothing on the names you listed above or rain or drg.

or even taeja. taeja was invincible for 2 months, no choking involved.

and don't start me on life...
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 24 2013 16:08 GMT
#4266
On August 25 2013 01:06 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:05 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:04 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
Hm... if TaeJa wins this, what'll happen to Scarlett?

Her ZvT is amazing, would we see her demolish him?

You're assuming she gets passed Bomber.

She won't.

We'll see. His TvZ's not as good has hers is. And it's Bomber's law.

He already disappointed in WCS KR. Surely he won't disappoint here. Surely this is his tournament.

I'm channeling all my pessimism in Bomber's TvZ to him, maybe he will actually win.

It worked at MLG vs. DRG. ;(
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
August 24 2013 16:08 GMT
#4267
On August 25 2013 01:06 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:05 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:04 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
Hm... if TaeJa wins this, what'll happen to Scarlett?

Her ZvT is amazing, would we see her demolish him?

You're assuming she gets passed Bomber.

She won't.

We'll see. His TvZ's not as good has hers is. And it's Bomber's law.

He already disappointed in WCS KR. Surely he won't disappoint here. Surely this is his tournament.

when statements like this start to come out, the point when bombers law comes to effect is nearing.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 24 2013 16:08 GMT
#4268
I'd love to see two scv pulls in a row for a quick 3:0
norterrible
Profile Joined October 2009
United States618 Posts
August 24 2013 16:08 GMT
#4269
Wow, rain's nexus is 5 minutes faster than last game.
kekeke
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 24 2013 16:08 GMT
#4270
On August 25 2013 01:06 unigolyn wrote:
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On August 25 2013 01:03 Ragnarork wrote:

Seriously, TvP is still Bioball + Ghosts + Vikings vs Colossi + HT + some gate units since forever


Except for that mass tempest thing earlier. But I guess he was so far ahead he could have gone mass phoenix and lifted individual marines.

Mass tempest thing is standard in late game TvP in Korea since some time. They just add few tempests to death ball to force engagements, when terran does not want it. Or force terran to lose units for free.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 24 2013 16:08 GMT
#4271
On August 25 2013 01:05 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:03 Ragnarork wrote:
On August 25 2013 00:59 GhostOwl wrote:
Terran chose bad engagement and about to lose? Don't worry, just load up the medivac and turbo outta that fight

Protoss HT gets emp + sniped? Dead. I really dont see why ghosts snipe range is greater than HT's


Dem toss tears

Seriously, TvP is still Bioball + Ghosts + Vikings vs Colossi + HT + some gate units since forever, and it's not imbalanced in any way.


I agree. But it is really boring to watch. The matchup really hasn't changed from WOL, except that early aggression is riskier for both sides.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:05 TheDwf wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:01 NarutO wrote:
On August 25 2013 00:59 GhostOwl wrote:
Terran chose bad engagement and about to lose? Don't worry, just load up the medivac and turbo outta that fight

Protoss HT gets emp + sniped? Dead. I really dont see why ghosts snipe range is greater than HT's


TaeJa was ahead from the start, very ahead. The 3rd base of Rain was even more delayed than its usually so what do you expect. It would need a huge blunder to blow that lead. Rain usually puts himself behind in macro games to have safety early and midgame because he knows Protoss is strong in lategame and he is especially with his templars. But that also does mean that any advantage early/midgame and delay to his 3rd thats late to begin with hurts him.

Also if you play greedy you can have a lot more than him. On the other hand, what you say just shows you don't know stuff about TvP

Indeed: income graph, army value graph. Blue = TaeJa, red = Rain.

Rain's account is a 40-4 Gold by the way. He left two games, lost a Cannon rush and apparently failed a proxy 10/10 vs Zerg.


You can't look at income or army graphs to show who is ahead in a non-mirror.

Lol, ofc you can. It doesn't tell you everything but here it's pretty clear TaeJa was ahead on everything (eco, army, ups).
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 24 2013 16:08 GMT
#4272
On August 25 2013 01:08 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:06 bo1b wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:04 Schelim wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:01 shadymmj wrote:
i swear, sc2 is so dumb. champions come and go so fast, it's actually saying something that bogus held the top spot for the longest period of time.

anyway, all hopes on jaedong now. make me proud!

Innovation had the top spot for the longest period of time? more like one of the shortest times of a player everyone thought was gonna win everything. when did you start following sc2? 6 months ago?

the names Mvp, Nestea, MC ring a bell?

Innovations period of dominance involved looking invincible for about a month, during which he choked incredibly vs soulkey and almost again vs Mvp. He has nothing on the names you listed above or rain or drg.

or even taeja. taeja was invincible for 2 months, no choking involved.

and don't start me on life...

I actually meant to type life instead of rain lol.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 24 2013 16:08 GMT
#4273
"there's no tourette there" haahah
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 24 2013 16:09 GMT
#4274
NICE FLANK FROM TAEJA. Siiiiiick!
Long live the King of Wings
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
August 24 2013 16:09 GMT
#4275
OMG taeja fighting!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10135 Posts
August 24 2013 16:09 GMT
#4276
BOOM. Manner mule him, son.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 24 2013 16:09 GMT
#4277
Goddamn it Rain. FUCK
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
August 24 2013 16:09 GMT
#4278
2-0 incoming
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
August 24 2013 16:09 GMT
#4279
woowwwwwwwwwwwwww
byah!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 24 2013 16:09 GMT
#4280
what the hell was that Rain? He completely screwed that up.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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