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On July 23 2013 21:13 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:13 Thrillz wrote: How many mines went off?
How many mutas did they kill?
Did anyone get the idea of the count?? I think it takes 3 Widow Mine hits to kill Mutas with splash damage.
Mutas were still damaged, I only saw two Widow mines go off and the Marines having fun with the rest that were above 80 hp.
And Mutas have 120 hp, so unless 3 Widow mines hit instantly you need 4.
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On July 23 2013 21:15 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:13 DeCoder wrote: Well that was fun. One widow mine hit decides the outcome of the games 3 and 1. Stupid as hell. One mine hit doesn't do enough damage to kill over a dozen mutas with splash. That was at least 3 simultaneously.
Yeah, and in game one SK should not have amoved his clump on banelings up a ramp lol. The better player won today.
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On July 23 2013 21:17 nimdil wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:14 TeeTS wrote:On July 23 2013 21:12 FeyFey wrote:On July 23 2013 21:11 Makro wrote:On July 23 2013 21:10 Yonnua wrote: OH MY GOD NO ZERGS IN THE SEMIFINALS! I always dreamed that this day would come! :') you know what it means ? a terran nerf Nah Terran nerfs gets applied if a Zerg beats up a mass of Terrans and wins GSL or if Thorzain wins a tournament using one unit a bit to much. widow mine nerf inc! Could totally see that happen after those games. Blizzard likes to react in panic mode, if terran does well over a short period of time. Unexpected beatdown though. I believed in Soulkey, but Innovation made him look really bad. That was WoL Blizzard. HotS Blizzard keeps calm and lets INnoVation earn $$ / get WCS Points / win ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/common/gold.png) s Incomming the controversy about Innovation bribing Blizzard balance team?
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On July 23 2013 21:17 DidYuhim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:15 TheDwf wrote:On July 23 2013 21:14 Kommander wrote:On July 23 2013 21:13 DeCoder wrote: Well that was fun. One widow mine hit decides the outcome of the games 3 and 1. Stupid as hell. No, Innovation and his skill decided the outcome of all of the games. Seriously, stop with that crap. Bogus has special Mines which auto-burrow in the best positions and automatically target in such a way they maximize damage. I wish I had the same Mines. I'm not even sure if you're whining that Terran is OP, or if you're whining that Terran is too weak, or you're just whining just because.
Are you a Romanian living in Ukraine? :p
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On July 23 2013 21:17 Lock0n wrote:Innovation with the never ending push of doom Dunno why Zergs mass so many mutas anyway, if they had sense they would just keep about 10 and just use them to deny drops, whilst massing banelings,. Innovation just has better control, knew it was gonna be 3-0 all along.
Mass muta counter attack style is really potent, but with innovation it's just not possible to get 2 seconds to breath.
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On July 23 2013 21:17 DidYuhim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:15 TheDwf wrote:On July 23 2013 21:14 Kommander wrote:On July 23 2013 21:13 DeCoder wrote: Well that was fun. One widow mine hit decides the outcome of the games 3 and 1. Stupid as hell. No, Innovation and his skill decided the outcome of all of the games. Seriously, stop with that crap. Bogus has special Mines which auto-burrow in the best positions and automatically target in such a way they maximize damage. I wish I had the same Mines. I'm not even sure if you're whining that Terran is OP, or if you're whining that Terran is too weak, or you're just whining just because. I'm not whining at all, I'm mocking people who think Mine usage takes "no skill" and whatnot.
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INnoVation vs Bomber would be a sick finals.
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On July 23 2013 21:17 DidYuhim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:15 TheDwf wrote:On July 23 2013 21:14 Kommander wrote:On July 23 2013 21:13 DeCoder wrote: Well that was fun. One widow mine hit decides the outcome of the games 3 and 1. Stupid as hell. No, Innovation and his skill decided the outcome of all of the games. Seriously, stop with that crap. Bogus has special Mines which auto-burrow in the best positions and automatically target in such a way they maximize damage. I wish I had the same Mines. I'm not even sure if you're whining that Terran is OP, or if you're whining that Terran is too weak, or you're just whining just because. He is whining that INnoVation is OP and should be nerfed. They should cut his right thumb or something.
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On July 23 2013 21:16 Prevolved wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:15 dainbramage wrote:On July 23 2013 21:14 Makro wrote: good night ? americans aren't the only one to watch lol It's night-time in Korea... Haha yes night time in korea and as for myself an american, good morning would be more appropriate since its 7am lol
Korean Starcraft events make for fantastic breakfast entertainment, and make me horribly unproductive in the morning.
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On July 23 2013 21:15 sneirac wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:11 TheDwf wrote:On July 23 2013 21:06 Douillos wrote: It's a risk reward thing, 3 CC double UP gives you such a powerful midgame, it seems logical that it should be difficult to hold early game. But it is difficult to hold certain things. And why don't you ask the same thing for the other side? 70 drones 7'30 dual evo gives a powerful midgame, and the only thing Terran can do to prevent that is to commit to 2-bases timings into third, i. e. a fragile build relying on Zerg not scouting and/or misreacting. And still, it's not "greed" from the Zerg since May 2012. So to summarize this OSL's TvZ 15:6 maps in favor of Terran, with only two macro map wins for Zerg, both coming after a failed 8/8/8. I think your estimation of fast three base Zergs being able to keep up with fast 3 OCs is outdated.
Before you blame it on balance perhaps the maps need to be looked at, remember that maps can affect the makeup of MUs as much as strategies and stats can.
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Would this give blizz an incentive to nerf the widow mines?
Ive always felt that zerg in SC2 needs a solid AOE damage dealing unit that doesn't a) suicide - bling and b) ability - infestor based.
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On July 23 2013 21:18 Kommander wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:17 DidYuhim wrote:On July 23 2013 21:15 TheDwf wrote:On July 23 2013 21:14 Kommander wrote:On July 23 2013 21:13 DeCoder wrote: Well that was fun. One widow mine hit decides the outcome of the games 3 and 1. Stupid as hell. No, Innovation and his skill decided the outcome of all of the games. Seriously, stop with that crap. Bogus has special Mines which auto-burrow in the best positions and automatically target in such a way they maximize damage. I wish I had the same Mines. I'm not even sure if you're whining that Terran is OP, or if you're whining that Terran is too weak, or you're just whining just because. Are you a Romanian living in Ukraine? :p I don't get this
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On July 23 2013 21:18 DidYuhim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:17 nimdil wrote:On July 23 2013 21:14 TeeTS wrote:On July 23 2013 21:12 FeyFey wrote:On July 23 2013 21:11 Makro wrote:On July 23 2013 21:10 Yonnua wrote: OH MY GOD NO ZERGS IN THE SEMIFINALS! I always dreamed that this day would come! :') you know what it means ? a terran nerf Nah Terran nerfs gets applied if a Zerg beats up a mass of Terrans and wins GSL or if Thorzain wins a tournament using one unit a bit to much. widow mine nerf inc! Could totally see that happen after those games. Blizzard likes to react in panic mode, if terran does well over a short period of time. Unexpected beatdown though. I believed in Soulkey, but Innovation made him look really bad. That was WoL Blizzard. HotS Blizzard keeps calm and lets INnoVation earn $$ / get WCS Points / win ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/common/gold.png) s Incomming the controversy about Innovation bribing Blizzard balance team?
They already took his hellbats. Leave him alone.
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On July 23 2013 21:15 bo1b wrote: I reallly want to see a jaedong vs innovation tvz series. The whole balance of the game hinges so much on who can micro better in the midgame, which is absolutely what jaedongs good at.
That would be so one-sided...
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Unstoppable Bogus vs in-form resurgent title defense legend of the fall Rain is my ideal, most skillful OSL final
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On July 23 2013 21:19 YyapSsap wrote: Would this give blizz an incentive to nerf the widow mines?
Ive always felt that zerg in SC2 needs a solid AOE damage dealing unit that doesn't a) suicide - bling and b) ability - infestor based.
I've felt that as well. Especially in 2012 Zerg clearly had not enough Aoe.
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was maru interviewed? i missed it
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On July 23 2013 21:18 GTR wrote: man, he looks so dopey. Doesn't quite have the swagger of a Flash or Jaedong yet. Hopefully he'll get there with even more success.
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On July 23 2013 21:19 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:15 bo1b wrote: I reallly want to see a jaedong vs innovation tvz series. The whole balance of the game hinges so much on who can micro better in the midgame, which is absolutely what jaedongs good at. That would be so one-sided... I think it would be pretty good tbh, jaedong annihilated innovation pre hellbat nerf.
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On July 23 2013 21:20 Killmouse wrote: was maru interviewed? i missed it yah he was
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