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There is always something dying in lategame PvZ, true that.
Locusts, for example.
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On May 15 2013 19:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:48 Wintex wrote:On May 15 2013 19:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 15 2013 19:46 Daralii wrote:On May 15 2013 19:45 Maasked wrote:On May 15 2013 19:43 Waxangel wrote:
if this happened in a big live tournament, we'd see a balance patch from d-kim in like 2 days -_~ What would be rebalanced? Swarm Hosts have been removed Oracles have been removed Vipers have been removed Tempests have been removed Mothership Core has been removed added hydraroach. The guy that made the thread would get a TL star. yeah...baller doesn't need a star.
lolollollolloll
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Austria24417 Posts
On May 15 2013 19:47 imallinson wrote:
That was a lot more interesting than WoL PvZ because it wasn't decided by one vortex or neural.
I'd have given money to see a vortex or neural decide this game instead of watching it continue for an hour while Trap has absolutely no chance to win.
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On May 15 2013 19:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:47 Kal_rA wrote:Goddam efforts so smart  Love how he took his time to decide what units to make. No panic. Cold calculated kills. so cold he froze and could not make any units and had to use his APM to increase internal heat.
Lol. stop being so good. I liked the time he took too. It gave us better decisions than we have seen a lot of times.
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On May 15 2013 19:48 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:43 Maasked wrote:Abuse that lack of mobility Trap could technically win Heh heh heh...  I am enjoying this Remember that Bomber(iirc) game on Newkirk where he boosted his MedVacs for about 15 minutes killing small amounts of Z with like 4 marines and a few marauders.
Goswser asked him to leave and he asked for one more hour
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Effort vs Trap Game 2 - DF Atlas
0:00-5:00
Trap starts with gate first
Effort pools before hatch
Effort has sent his overlord in the correct direction and finds the gateway expand
Effort takes a gas
Trap takes a second gas, starts his natural nexus and a msc
4 lings are in Trap's base preventing a natural wall from being built
Effort just drones up and starts ling speed
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On May 15 2013 19:47 Kommander wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:46 Salteador Neo wrote:On May 15 2013 19:44 Exarl25 wrote:On May 15 2013 19:43 Waxangel wrote:
if this happened in a big live tournament, we'd see a balance patch from d-kim in like 2 days -_~ Just a couple of months ago everyone was saying that Skytoss was completely unstoppable... 2-3 weeks ago Swarmhosts were useless and people were joking how bad they are It was the infestor useless QQ all over again. Zergs always complain and then eventually find out that X unit is actually useful or viable, then shit gets real. :p
IIRC everybody said that swarmhosts are useless until you get enough of them. Nothing in that game went against that theory. The zerg player just happened to have enough.
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I think the most significant change there's been between BW and SC2 is the fact that 70% of the community has turned into a spoiled professional whining sqad :/
Go see the twitch chat for illustration.
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On May 15 2013 19:48 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 15 2013 19:46 Daralii wrote:On May 15 2013 19:45 Maasked wrote:On May 15 2013 19:43 Waxangel wrote:
if this happened in a big live tournament, we'd see a balance patch from d-kim in like 2 days -_~ What would be rebalanced? Swarm Hosts have been removed Oracles have been removed Vipers have been removed Tempests have been removed Mothership Core has been removed added hydraroach. The guy that made the thread would get a TL star.
link: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=153275
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United Kingdom12022 Posts
I think one way of really stopping that sort of situation is reduce the duration of locusts meaning the swarmhosts need to be in danger for even a little while.
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On May 15 2013 19:50 ChApFoU wrote:
I think the most significant change there's been between BW and SC2 is the fact that 70% of the community has turned into a spoiled professional whining sqad :/
Go see the twitch chat for illustration.
o_o
don't do it!
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On May 15 2013 19:50 iamthedave wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:47 Kommander wrote:On May 15 2013 19:46 Salteador Neo wrote:On May 15 2013 19:44 Exarl25 wrote:On May 15 2013 19:43 Waxangel wrote:
if this happened in a big live tournament, we'd see a balance patch from d-kim in like 2 days -_~ Just a couple of months ago everyone was saying that Skytoss was completely unstoppable... 2-3 weeks ago Swarmhosts were useless and people were joking how bad they are It was the infestor useless QQ all over again. Zergs always complain and then eventually find out that X unit is actually useful or viable, then shit gets real. :p IIRC everybody said that swarmhosts are useless until you get enough of them.
Woooo stalkers are useless.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50143 Posts
On May 15 2013 19:50 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:48 Wintex wrote:On May 15 2013 19:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 15 2013 19:46 Daralii wrote:On May 15 2013 19:45 Maasked wrote:On May 15 2013 19:43 Waxangel wrote:
if this happened in a big live tournament, we'd see a balance patch from d-kim in like 2 days -_~ What would be rebalanced? Swarm Hosts have been removed Oracles have been removed Vipers have been removed Tempests have been removed Mothership Core has been removed added hydraroach. The guy that made the thread would get a TL star. link: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=153275
I'll ask hot_bid to unlock that thread...
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On May 15 2013 19:51 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:50 iamthedave wrote:On May 15 2013 19:47 Kommander wrote:On May 15 2013 19:46 Salteador Neo wrote:On May 15 2013 19:44 Exarl25 wrote:On May 15 2013 19:43 Waxangel wrote:
if this happened in a big live tournament, we'd see a balance patch from d-kim in like 2 days -_~ Just a couple of months ago everyone was saying that Skytoss was completely unstoppable... 2-3 weeks ago Swarmhosts were useless and people were joking how bad they are It was the infestor useless QQ all over again. Zergs always complain and then eventually find out that X unit is actually useful or viable, then shit gets real. :p IIRC everybody said that swarmhosts are useless until you get enough of them. Woooo zealots are useless.
Just like zerglings!
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United Kingdom3482 Posts
On May 15 2013 19:48 Insoleet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:47 imallinson wrote:
That was a lot more interesting than WoL PvZ because it wasn't decided by one vortex or neural. I agree, and there was a lot going on everywhere. A bit like TvT tankfest.
Yeah it reminds me alot of 2011 TvT. Around that time there was that >1hr boxer game at MLG, I forget who it was against.
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On May 15 2013 19:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:48 Wintex wrote:On May 15 2013 19:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 15 2013 19:46 Daralii wrote:On May 15 2013 19:45 Maasked wrote:On May 15 2013 19:43 Waxangel wrote:
if this happened in a big live tournament, we'd see a balance patch from d-kim in like 2 days -_~ What would be rebalanced? Swarm Hosts have been removed Oracles have been removed Vipers have been removed Tempests have been removed Mothership Core has been removed added hydraroach. The guy that made the thread would get a TL star. yeah...baller doesn't need a star.
Am I missing something ^_^?
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On May 15 2013 19:49 Conut wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:46 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:On May 15 2013 19:43 Waxangel wrote:
if this happened in a big live tournament, we'd see a balance patch from d-kim in like 2 days -_~ Except Trap played the entire lategame completely wrong... Just sat there dying to locusts for 20 minutes yea no idea why people are complaining
so what could Trap specifically have done to not lose like that once it reached the stage of max armies?
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Austria24417 Posts
On May 15 2013 19:51 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:50 iamthedave wrote:On May 15 2013 19:47 Kommander wrote:On May 15 2013 19:46 Salteador Neo wrote:On May 15 2013 19:44 Exarl25 wrote:On May 15 2013 19:43 Waxangel wrote:
if this happened in a big live tournament, we'd see a balance patch from d-kim in like 2 days -_~ Just a couple of months ago everyone was saying that Skytoss was completely unstoppable... 2-3 weeks ago Swarmhosts were useless and people were joking how bad they are It was the infestor useless QQ all over again. Zergs always complain and then eventually find out that X unit is actually useful or viable, then shit gets real. :p IIRC everybody said that swarmhosts are useless until you get enough of them. Woooo stalkers are useless.
The difference is that stalkers actually are useless.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50143 Posts
On May 15 2013 19:52 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 15 2013 19:48 Wintex wrote:On May 15 2013 19:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 15 2013 19:46 Daralii wrote:On May 15 2013 19:45 Maasked wrote:On May 15 2013 19:43 Waxangel wrote:
if this happened in a big live tournament, we'd see a balance patch from d-kim in like 2 days -_~ What would be rebalanced? Swarm Hosts have been removed Oracles have been removed Vipers have been removed Tempests have been removed Mothership Core has been removed added hydraroach. The guy that made the thread would get a TL star. yeah...baller doesn't need a star. Am I missing something ^_^?
nothing I've not already told you.
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On May 15 2013 19:52 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 19:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 15 2013 19:48 Wintex wrote:On May 15 2013 19:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 15 2013 19:46 Daralii wrote:On May 15 2013 19:45 Maasked wrote:On May 15 2013 19:43 Waxangel wrote:
if this happened in a big live tournament, we'd see a balance patch from d-kim in like 2 days -_~ What would be rebalanced? Swarm Hosts have been removed Oracles have been removed Vipers have been removed Tempests have been removed Mothership Core has been removed added hydraroach. The guy that made the thread would get a TL star. yeah...baller doesn't need a star. Am I missing something ^_^?
Try to find "baller fan club" in the fan club section. He's done some pretty amazing comments on TL
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