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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10146 Posts
May 02 2013 16:20 GMT
#6361
Good day. Parting cockiness brings a lot to the korean scene for me, the guy can back it up with results, i love the dude, but as a startale fan i have to side with life. They were pretty close, with a 2/2, but well, at the end who had the stamina to win the last games, deserves the spot. And those forcefields + Timewarps on game 2 and simcity on game 1

Flash is the on i feel still has a long way to get at the level of the people on his group today (and no, that doesn't mean bad ), i don't know if it is he being stubborn and having a hard time to adapt while the metagame is still evolving. Innovation giving us more hints on what level his multitask and decission making is, and i think those are key to success as a terran. Bogus man.

Good Games.

DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
May 02 2013 16:26 GMT
#6362
On May 03 2013 00:55 dambros wrote:
Unfortunately I could not watch the last match between Life and Parting. For those who did, were there any macro game or just some sort of sneaky play/allin from Parting?

Life failed to ling all-in parting twice.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
May 02 2013 16:27 GMT
#6363
On May 03 2013 01:04 mk.ultra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 23:52 Gann1 wrote:
alright i'm an old bw fan and this is the first sc2 i've watched since 2010

the games were kinda cool but when did tasteless and artosis get so terrible at commentating


Personally I agree their commentating was awful, particularly Tasteless. They just keep repeating "zomg these guys are invincible perfect gosu gods." Maybe funny once but it just got ridiculous to the point where they weren't even breaking down what was going on in the games.

In my opinion Axeltoss and Axslav are the best pair of casters. Insightful and funny, they go on diatribes sometimes but then they get right back to giving useful commentary.


that was my point, and it's sad because someone like me could have used some actual analysis

oh well
I drop suckas like Plinko
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 02 2013 16:28 GMT
#6364
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
May 02 2013 16:28 GMT
#6365
On May 03 2013 01:19 StickyIcky wrote:
I heard blizzard are implementing a time saving feature whereby the player automatically types gg and leaves upon creating a swarm host cocoon.

spoilering the next patch like that :'(
The heart's eternal vow
tozi
Profile Joined October 2008
United States506 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 16:30:03
May 02 2013 16:29 GMT
#6366
pissed that flash and life are in Code A... they don't deserve it.

guess thats what happens with a ro16 group of death
nothing
MiQ
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada312 Posts
May 02 2013 16:31 GMT
#6367
Noooo Flash!!! I knew shouldn't have checked the results.. now I'll be in a bad mood the rest of the day -.-
Tons of damage
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 16:35:02
May 02 2013 16:32 GMT
#6368
On May 03 2013 01:28 Emzeeshady wrote:
I haven't finished watching the series yet but after reading the comments in this thread for Flash vs Innovation game 3 I just have to say something.

Flash didn't lose because mech was weak. He got outplayed throughout the whole game. Those marauder drops didn't work because bio>>>>mech. They worked because Flash didn't get a raven for odd, widow mines and he didn't have his hellbats in the right place when the drop came. If the hellbats are right around the tanks the bio melts as it drops down. Flash moved his hellbats too far away from his tanks and paid the price.

I don't know if Flash ends up making it through but I hope to Jesus he doesn't.


in all fairness to flash the game that he lived for 6 years got phased out in favor of another game

i'm not trying to start the old bw vs sc2 fight but it's kind of unrealistic to expect flash to be amazing at sc2 right away when his bw dominance was based on years and years of obsessing about the game and thinking about it every waking hour

it's also not fair to dismiss him because he isn't dominant right away - he wasn't dominant right away in bw either and look what happened there
I drop suckas like Plinko
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
May 02 2013 16:36 GMT
#6369
Any rebroadcast guys? I couldn't see it live.
JD is BONJWA!
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
May 02 2013 16:37 GMT
#6370
On May 03 2013 01:32 Gann1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 01:28 Emzeeshady wrote:
I haven't finished watching the series yet but after reading the comments in this thread for Flash vs Innovation game 3 I just have to say something.

Flash didn't lose because mech was weak. He got outplayed throughout the whole game. Those marauder drops didn't work because bio>>>>mech. They worked because Flash didn't get a raven for odd, widow mines and he didn't have his hellbats in the right place when the drop came. If the hellbats are right around the tanks the bio melts as it drops down. Flash moved his hellbats too far away from his tanks and paid the price.

I don't know if Flash ends up making it through but I hope to Jesus he doesn't.


in all fairness to flash the game that he lived for 6 years got phased out in favor of another game

i'm not trying to start the old bw vs sc2 fight but it's kind of unrealistic to expect flash to be amazing at sc2 right away when his bw dominance was based on years and years of obsessing about the game and thinking about it every waking hour

it's also not fair to dismiss him because he isn't dominant right away - he wasn't dominant right away in bw either and look what happened there

I think that more people should try to understand what this smart person here says.

Not just Flash, but all the BW pros are similar. They're playing the game they don't really know as good as they did back in the day.
mk.ultra
Profile Joined March 2012
United States54 Posts
May 02 2013 16:38 GMT
#6371
On May 03 2013 01:36 GWdeathscythe wrote:
Any rebroadcast guys? I couldn't see it live.


This is why I woke up at 4:00 AM to watch it :D

despite my zergrbo losing they were still all awesome matches
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
May 02 2013 16:39 GMT
#6372
On May 03 2013 01:28 Emzeeshady wrote:
I haven't finished watching the series yet but after reading the comments in this thread for Flash vs Innovation game 3 I just have to say something.

Flash didn't lose because mech was weak. He got outplayed throughout the whole game. Those marauder drops didn't work because bio>>>>mech. They worked because Flash didn't get a raven for odd, widow mines and he didn't have his hellbats in the right place when the drop came. If the hellbats are right around the tanks the bio melts as it drops down. Flash moved his hellbats too far away from his tanks and paid the price.

I don't know if Flash ends up making it through but I hope to Jesus he doesn't.


If there is Goliath, the medivac couldn't drop on Flash tank
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
May 02 2013 16:40 GMT
#6373
so happy for innovation but i want flash to advance too.
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10146 Posts
May 02 2013 16:44 GMT
#6374
On May 03 2013 01:39 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 01:28 Emzeeshady wrote:
I haven't finished watching the series yet but after reading the comments in this thread for Flash vs Innovation game 3 I just have to say something.

Flash didn't lose because mech was weak. He got outplayed throughout the whole game. Those marauder drops didn't work because bio>>>>mech. They worked because Flash didn't get a raven for odd, widow mines and he didn't have his hellbats in the right place when the drop came. If the hellbats are right around the tanks the bio melts as it drops down. Flash moved his hellbats too far away from his tanks and paid the price.

I don't know if Flash ends up making it through but I hope to Jesus he doesn't.


If there is Goliath, the medivac couldn't drop on Flash tank


They are called vikings on sc2

And PDD is really helpfull against those pesky marauders. Flash just massed tanks/hellbats/medivacs, which won't get you very far with mech on tvt except if you do huge damage with your drops, and hellbats suck at sniping tech/production.
tozi
Profile Joined October 2008
United States506 Posts
May 02 2013 16:48 GMT
#6375
On May 03 2013 01:37 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 01:32 Gann1 wrote:
On May 03 2013 01:28 Emzeeshady wrote:
I haven't finished watching the series yet but after reading the comments in this thread for Flash vs Innovation game 3 I just have to say something.

Flash didn't lose because mech was weak. He got outplayed throughout the whole game. Those marauder drops didn't work because bio>>>>mech. They worked because Flash didn't get a raven for odd, widow mines and he didn't have his hellbats in the right place when the drop came. If the hellbats are right around the tanks the bio melts as it drops down. Flash moved his hellbats too far away from his tanks and paid the price.

I don't know if Flash ends up making it through but I hope to Jesus he doesn't.


in all fairness to flash the game that he lived for 6 years got phased out in favor of another game

i'm not trying to start the old bw vs sc2 fight but it's kind of unrealistic to expect flash to be amazing at sc2 right away when his bw dominance was based on years and years of obsessing about the game and thinking about it every waking hour

it's also not fair to dismiss him because he isn't dominant right away - he wasn't dominant right away in bw either and look what happened there

I think that more people should try to understand what this smart person here says.

Not just Flash, but all the BW pros are similar. They're playing the game they don't really know as good as they did back in the day.



The funny thing is, Flash is already really beastly. Easily top ten in the world and second best terran. Just the standards are so high for a legend
nothing
fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
May 02 2013 16:50 GMT
#6376
I think the hope fans see in Flash is that the deficiencies in his play are due to a lack of thorough game understanding. This will be solved with time and coaching.

What made him the best is still with him. His multitask, micro, and macro.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
May 02 2013 16:51 GMT
#6377
On May 03 2013 01:48 tozi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 01:37 DidYuhim wrote:
On May 03 2013 01:32 Gann1 wrote:
On May 03 2013 01:28 Emzeeshady wrote:
I haven't finished watching the series yet but after reading the comments in this thread for Flash vs Innovation game 3 I just have to say something.

Flash didn't lose because mech was weak. He got outplayed throughout the whole game. Those marauder drops didn't work because bio>>>>mech. They worked because Flash didn't get a raven for odd, widow mines and he didn't have his hellbats in the right place when the drop came. If the hellbats are right around the tanks the bio melts as it drops down. Flash moved his hellbats too far away from his tanks and paid the price.

I don't know if Flash ends up making it through but I hope to Jesus he doesn't.


in all fairness to flash the game that he lived for 6 years got phased out in favor of another game

i'm not trying to start the old bw vs sc2 fight but it's kind of unrealistic to expect flash to be amazing at sc2 right away when his bw dominance was based on years and years of obsessing about the game and thinking about it every waking hour

it's also not fair to dismiss him because he isn't dominant right away - he wasn't dominant right away in bw either and look what happened there

I think that more people should try to understand what this smart person here says.

Not just Flash, but all the BW pros are similar. They're playing the game they don't really know as good as they did back in the day.



The funny thing is, Flash is already really beastly. Easily top ten in the world and second best terran. Just the standards are so high for a legend


if you look at flash's trajectory in BW it's similar - at first he was just "good", then he slumped a bit, then he became the undisputed greatest ever

it all depends on his motivation. if he WANTS to be the greatest SC2 player (and i think he does) he will be eventually. but eventually is not today.
I drop suckas like Plinko
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 02 2013 16:59 GMT
#6378
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XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
May 02 2013 17:00 GMT
#6379
On May 03 2013 01:44 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 01:39 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
On May 03 2013 01:28 Emzeeshady wrote:
I haven't finished watching the series yet but after reading the comments in this thread for Flash vs Innovation game 3 I just have to say something.

Flash didn't lose because mech was weak. He got outplayed throughout the whole game. Those marauder drops didn't work because bio>>>>mech. They worked because Flash didn't get a raven for odd, widow mines and he didn't have his hellbats in the right place when the drop came. If the hellbats are right around the tanks the bio melts as it drops down. Flash moved his hellbats too far away from his tanks and paid the price.

I don't know if Flash ends up making it through but I hope to Jesus he doesn't.


If there is Goliath, the medivac couldn't drop on Flash tank


They are called vikings on sc2

And PDD is really helpfull against those pesky marauders. Flash just massed tanks/hellbats/medivacs, which won't get you very far with mech on tvt except if you do huge damage with your drops, and hellbats suck at sniping tech/production.


I feel terran go backwards, when they replace Goliath with Viking..

They dont even share the same upgrade..

And goliath can attack air and ground without transforming.
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
May 02 2013 17:01 GMT
#6380
On May 03 2013 01:50 fluidin wrote:
I think the hope fans see in Flash is that the deficiencies in his play are due to a lack of thorough game understanding. This will be solved with time and coaching.

What made him the best is still with him. His multitask, micro, and macro.


What made him best, is his attitude.
When I read his interview, I am in awe.

It is his attitude that touch my heart the most.
It is something, I wish to have as well.
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
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